On this episode of Still Poddable, Sam "Jam" Packard and Brian Robb break down the Celtics week that included a squeaker over Wolves and some changes in the frontcourt. The guys also touch on the NBA Cup and the White House visit with producer Sean and do our weekly segments. All that, and much more!
00:00 - Intro
02:41 - Disappointing Wizards game
04:15 - Celtics' late-game poise
08:53 - Backup center struggles
12:02 - Queta’s inconsistent play
14:35 - Porzingis' return timeline
16:55 - Prize Picks
20:21 - Celtics' playoff strategy
22:58 - Importance of NBA Cup
25:16 - Cavs Winning Streak
30:00 - GameTime
32:20 - Baylor's G League Performance
34:50 - Jaylen Brown's Five Threes
39:20 - Joe Mazzulla's Quotes
46:39 - Derek White's Presser Reaction
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00:00 - Intro
02:41 - Disappointing Wizards game
04:15 - Celtics' late-game poise
08:53 - Backup center struggles
12:02 - Queta’s inconsistent play
14:35 - Porzingis' return timeline
16:55 - Prize Picks
20:21 - Celtics' playoff strategy
22:58 - Importance of NBA Cup
25:16 - Cavs Winning Streak
30:00 - GameTime
32:20 - Baylor's G League Performance
34:50 - Jaylen Brown's Five Threes
39:20 - Joe Mazzulla's Quotes
46:39 - Derek White's Presser Reaction
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00:47Welcome back to Still Potable, the best Celtics podcast here on Al Gore's interweb.
00:54I am Sam Jampackert, professional sports fan.
00:57Joined by Brian B. Robb-Robb from MassLive.com
01:02and producer Sean Ngoc-Ye.
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01:36This is the weekly free show, so we'll do a little bit of a recap
01:40of what was a very fun eventful week for the Celtics.
01:44They had a win against the Cavaliers in the NBA Cup,
01:49giving them their first loss of the season.
01:51They played the Wizards in what was one of the worst games of basketball
01:56I've ever seen in my life.
01:57And I was fortunate enough to be in person for that one.
02:00Glad you made the trip.
02:01They really disappointed in person.
02:03I had five friends come to that game,
02:07and I met up with them after the game,
02:08and I was just like, kept apologizing.
02:10Like, this is not what basketball is.
02:13Like, this was the worst game in the world.
02:16Because they're like not really big basketball people,
02:18but they just like came out because I was going,
02:20and I just was like, no.
02:21It's like when you show one of your friends a movie that you really like,
02:25and then they get up to go to the bathroom and don't ask to pause the movie.
02:30It's like they're clearly not as into it.
02:32It was a really tough situation.
02:33Well, the good news is it was a Wizards game,
02:35so they probably spent, what, like $15 for a ticket?
02:38Yeah, it was fine.
02:40And so the Celtics did that,
02:41and then they had a very thrilling win against the Timberwolves today in Boston,
02:48a Sunday matinee, finished out the week 3-0.
02:53They just keep on cruising.
02:54I think we can talk about the Wizards game a little bit later
02:57and just how bad that was.
02:58Let's not.
03:00We don't have to talk about the game, per se,
03:03because they kept on going, so they didn't know any wiser.
03:06My friends are like, so what would be better about it?
03:08It's like, oh, normally they make shots.
03:10Like, normally the Celtics or the other team make a lot of shots.
03:15But let's focus on the good games.
03:16The Cavs and the Timberwolves,
03:19two, I would say, legitimate opponents
03:22where the Celtics played close basketball games
03:25and did everything they needed to do down the stretch to pull them out.
03:31Things got tight.
03:32I think they were a little bit more of a commanding victory against the Cavs.
03:37There's Anthony Edwards hits a shot,
03:40missed a three to kind of, when the Wolves were down two,
03:43to kind of take the lead.
03:43And Jalen takes what I would only describe
03:46as a extremely ill-advised three to put the Celtics up by five
03:50and kind of seal the victory for them.
03:51But I thought I was impressed by the Celtics.
03:57And maybe this is just like confirmation bias
04:00because they were able to walk away with the victories, B-Rob.
04:03But both against the Cavs and the Timberwolves,
04:08they got up big and the teams came back.
04:10And every single time, it felt like the Celtics
04:12have had an answer in those two moments.
04:14And I don't know how much of that is good luck,
04:16but it does feel like they're very comfortable in that position
04:19and very comfortable kind of sealing these games out.
04:22It is not something we necessarily would have said about the Celtics,
04:25I would say, at this time last year.
04:27Yeah, it sounds like reversed, like straight up.
04:30These are the games they were losing last year.
04:33Like anything close at the end, more often than not,
04:36it would be not falling apart down the stretch,
04:39but just weren't able to execute.
04:40And it wasn't an issue because they were dominating 90% of the games
04:44to the point where it doesn't matter.
04:45But now, in these situations, they find a way.
04:48The poise is there.
04:50And whether that's fallout from them doing it in the playoffs
04:55or just maturation, whatever it is,
04:58they're ready to get the stop they need in the big moment
05:01or just hit the shot they need to in the big moment.
05:03And it's pretty important now because they're cruising.
05:07But they're still, what, two and a half, three games out of first place.
05:10So the Cavs are apparently not going to lose again
05:13unless they're facing the Celtics.
05:14So it is, them winning these type of games
05:16is a pretty big step forward for this team this year.
05:19And the game against the Timberwolves,
05:21like the Timberwolves have not been as good as they were last year,
05:24but they're still playing in a tough East.
05:25They're still a very talented team.
05:26And obviously, coming off the two overtime games
05:29that the Celtics played against the Timberwolves last year,
05:31like this was a significant test.
05:34And, I mean, what got into Jalen Brown to start that game?
05:39That was absolutely absurd just to start the game with five threes.
05:44The fifth one being the most absurd of a step back over Rudy Gobert.
05:49And then the sixth attempt and seventh attempt
05:52being just some of the worst air balls I've seen in a while.
05:55To his credit, he admitted those were bad heat checks.
05:58The sixth and seventh, he was like,
05:59yeah, I should have probably used a little more discretion,
06:02which is hard to do when you make five in a row in like five minutes.
06:05Like that, I think Jalen was brought up after the game,
06:08I was like, was that a record for someone making five threes
06:12within the five minutes of the start of the game?
06:13It's probably very tough to find anyone who's done that in that sort of a span.
06:19But yeah, I don't know, like this game, Packard, it's great they won,
06:24but it also like they were up by 19 in the third quarter and let it get away
06:28and the Wolves aren't, on paper, they look good, but they're a 500 team.
06:32They lost to the Raptors on Friday night in Toronto.
06:36So the offense is good, the defense is good enough,
06:43but it's still like, despite the record,
06:46it's not the same level of dominance that we saw, I guess, last year.
06:52And that's obviously not cause for alarm,
06:54but it's just like the reality of where maybe their motivation level is at
06:57or just the fact that the NBA is just better across the board this year,
07:03at least in the Western Conference.
07:04Yeah, I also like a 19-point lead like isn't what it's used to.
07:10Like in this NBA, you can lose a lead almost immediately
07:14and like on four possessions, they can hit four straight threes.
07:17And so it's just it's an odd thing because yeah,
07:22they've been up big in both those third quarters up 19.
07:25I think they're up by more than that 20 against the Cavs
07:27or 24 in the early third quarter Cavs came all the way back.
07:31They gave up the big lead.
07:32But in the modern NBA, and I feel like you lose your focus a bit.
07:36You're not as locked in and it kind of bleeds in.
07:38You have like four bad possessions and immediately things can turn.
07:43But it's also like kind of the flip
07:44where if the Celtics ever find themselves down by 15,
07:48there's not as much of a panic because you're like,
07:50oh, they can easily find themselves back in this game
07:54just by getting five stops in a row
07:57and going on a little bit of a run themselves.
08:00And I don't know how much of that is just like the focus,
08:04the lack of defense, but I also I think this is like
08:09if we're just talking just trying to like chart the changes
08:12of what's occurred over this last week.
08:16They're desperately trying to find a backup center who works.
08:19You've buried the lead back.
08:20I'm amazed.
08:21It took you eight minutes to get to this because that's
08:23that's the least I'm framing it in a way
08:27that is as neutral and as objective as possible here.
08:34But at the start of the week taking the Cavaliers,
08:39there was a backup center who played a lot of minutes
08:42and at the end of the week that same backup center
08:46was nowhere to be found in the rotation
08:48and something occurred over the course of the week.
08:52I would say many minutes of bad basketball
08:55that led this aforementioned backup center to be benched
08:59in Washington and a new backup center play a lot of minutes
09:06against the Wolves.
09:07I've been trying to be diplomatic here.
09:08Nemi has gotten benched for Xavier Tillman folks
09:11if you haven't gotten figured out what's going on here
09:13and it's frankly because Nemi was bad against the Cavaliers
09:16and like targeted anytime he was on the court
09:19and then was basically maybe almost single-handedly tanked
09:24the Wizards game.
09:25I think there's a many points in which the difference
09:28in the score and you just had to look at the Luke Cornett
09:30plus minus and the Nemi plus minus and it directly added
09:33up to the score differential.
09:34And so how much of you think of like that?
09:37I'm not going to say the Celtics struggle,
09:39but like last year they were blowing teams out by 20 to 30
09:44very consistently and that's because they had
09:48I just had Chris Tapps Porzingis.
09:50They had Al Horford coming in off the bench.
09:52They didn't have this consistent lacking at the center
09:57position because it feels like a lot of what the Celtics
09:58do especially on the offensive end is going five out
10:02is being able to stretch the floor and not having it
10:04really hurt them at all.
10:06But now it feels like any moment Al Horford's not playing
10:09center.
10:10It's a bit of a struggle for the Celtics and that's me
10:13criticizing both Nemi and Xavier Tillman because I just
10:17don't think either of them are like great options at this
10:21point.
10:22Yeah, it's Tillman's offense has been brutal all year,
10:28but and you bury him on the bench and but then you forget
10:31it's like you the warts of his offense.
10:36You they look better now because you forget.
10:38Oh because he's still like he's a smart player defensively
10:41and he's versatile and it took a couple weeks for that
10:45to remind us and for that to remind the coaching staff
10:47on this and I with Nemi's just try out struggling.
10:51I mean he was bad and Cleveland is bad watching.
10:52He was bad.
10:53Honestly the week before that in a lot of those games
10:55and someone said that someone had someone was on this
10:59that was on the case enough to point that out of this
11:01out because he was it was this is the perfect example
11:04of like a young player and consistency of like why was
11:07he available last year?
11:07Yeah, because he like and even last season he put together
11:10like a fun stretch in like November and December and
11:13but then the longer when I was like, okay, this is you
11:16know, we can do better than this and Cornette and Tillman
11:20are flawed players to the degree but they also are steadier
11:24players and you know what you're getting from them
11:26more certainly on the defensive end and with the rest
11:29of the Celtics offense not playing to the level.
11:31They are defensively last year.
11:34Those words speak obviously became more glaring now
11:36and and now it's gonna be interesting going.
11:39I mean poor thing is gonna be back in a couple weeks
11:40anyway, so this probably is not a long-term issue at
11:43this point, but I don't know you can I I'm very I admire
11:49how much you're you're not like strutting right now
11:52because I was on the still potable chat and folks if
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12:02slash still potable.
12:04I was uh, because the Wizards game it was like so clear.
12:10It was like immediately the need me minutes.
12:12They were down and then the cornet came in and they
12:14built back up and just the plus minus argument was
12:16building and Mimi had some really bad moments in that
12:20game and I was on the still potable chat taking my victory
12:24lap as a K to hate a and then people were getting legitimately
12:27upset with me and chat.
12:32Like I didn't I didn't want to flex too hard on my correct
12:36take that he is not shouldn't be the sixth man of the year
12:40as some Legends might have said on this very program.
12:45But yeah, it's just you know what I showed up to Washington.
12:49I was accountable for my takes Mimi walked right past me.
12:52He doesn't know who I am, but I was there in case he wanted
12:54to Joel and bead shove me for the things I put out there.
13:00But yeah, I think it's just he's he's the dynamic like flashy
13:06player, but he's just not consistent wildcard.
13:09He's a wild card.
13:10He can do blocks.
13:11He can he can certainly catch a lob dunk where Tillman cannot.
13:15I thought Tillman had some okay.
13:18Plays today.
13:19Like I think he had a nice pass underneath to Derek White
13:21who ended up getting fouled after he like pump faked in
13:24the corner and drove like I think Tillman is just more of
13:26a solid basketball player, but it's neither of those guys
13:30you want hanging out in the corner.
13:32Like I don't like it.
13:33Anytime Tillman catches the ball in the corner.
13:35I don't want Mimi anywhere near the corner.
13:36I like and so and it's just that's not what the Celtics
13:41offense is necessarily when it's at its best and you mentioned
13:45Chris taps a little bit.
13:47When do we expect to see him because all the clips of Chris
13:50taps and he's like practicing with the main Celtics.
13:55It seems like things are going pretty well, but it also seems
13:57like the Celtics have only lost what three games two games.
14:02And so there's no real rush to have him back.
14:04He needs like why not make sure he's a thousand percent
14:07percent healthy, but it does seem like he's going to be back
14:10sooner rather than later because as he's far ahead of whatever
14:13random schedule I put on him because I thought I didn't think
14:16we were going to see him till 2025.
14:18Right?
14:19I think that like December was the initial target date and
14:22even then I think Choms had a report even a month ago saying
14:25like, oh, it might be closer to November.
14:28Yeah, at this point, I'd be surprised if we see him this
14:31upcoming week.
14:33But after that all bets are off.
14:35I think at this point because if you you know, he took that
14:38was a real scrimmage took part in and against Tillman back on
14:42last Monday and the reports out of that was that he looks,
14:45you know solid at that point.
14:46And so whenever he's ready, maybe take two extra weeks just
14:50to be sure given his history and revving up into the fact
14:55basically as you said Packard, you just don't need him at
14:57this point, but it is a nice little like the team knows he's
15:01like kind of ready and waiting there and some of these issues
15:05that have popped up defensively and rotation wise and who
15:10who's the right matchup against certain teams and just living
15:12with flawed players in the center position that kind of
15:15goes away or certainly goes away to a point where when they're
15:19not playing back-to-backs where you can just say, okay, whoever
15:21is it going this night, whether it's Cornette, Kada, Tillman
15:24like or who has it going in that stretch of games, Joe can
15:27ride the high end of that rather than just turn away from
15:30guys because they just don't have it.
15:33Yeah, and I think it's going to be interesting to see like
15:35what the rotation looks like when Cornette comes back.
15:37If any of those centers get like anytime or is just like
15:42the spot six minutes here and see if you see if you have
15:44it. I feel like if Luke Cornette wasn't had the bad hamstring
15:48right now, like he would probably be he feels like the most
15:51consistent performer.
15:52But then again, he was out today with like a sore hamstring
15:55and so he's not just like I wonder if they're distressing
15:57that because I know they want Alex Knapp Monday off.
16:01So I was just like, oh, we're going to be tonight off because
16:03we're going to need you to play 25 minutes.
16:04We will see but he has he has been dealing with that the last
16:07week. So it might be more than that.
16:07We're going to find, you know, the injury report will come
16:09out sometime Monday, but that will be the his injury situation.
16:14Cornette is he's been pretty durable throughout his career.
16:17But when this stuff comes up, they have to be careful of
16:19him because if not, then the alternatives are as you said
16:24Packard does not like Tillman and Nemi and those are two
16:27guys that you don't really want to be playing regular minutes
16:30at this point.
16:31Yeah, if you're a you know, a wise person with your money
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18:28Now, I don't know.
18:29I'm not a big NBA Cup guy and I know B-Rob's not the biggest
18:35NBA Cup guy, but Sean is the biggest NBA Cup guy that I know
18:41and he put together the outline for today's show.
18:44Two of these games are NBA Cup games.
18:46They played that Wizards game on a very pink cherry blossom
18:51court. My friends who came to the game are also very confused
18:54about the NBA Cup.
18:55They had no idea what was going on there, but the Celtics
18:59with a little help from the Bulls are now in actually prime
19:03position to win their group in the NBA Cup.
19:06If they, what if they beat who that they have to beat the
19:11Bulls? Sean, you're the NBA Cup guy.
19:13Explain it to us.
19:15I love that I'm the NBA Cup guy because I can't stay in the
19:17NBA Cup, but that does make sense for me being the biggest
19:20NBA Cup guy, you know.
19:22Yeah, but yeah, so yeah, the Celtics did luckily like the
19:27point differential.
19:28All that stuff is actually like off the table for them right
19:31now. Really?
19:31All that they need to do is they need to beat the Bulls.
19:33Then why were the Wizards fouling down by 15 with 3 seconds
19:38to play on Friday night?
19:39Drew Holiday was confused by that.
19:41Drew Holiday was very confused by that after the game.
19:43Yeah, I don't know what the Celtics are without without fault
19:46too.
19:47They took a timeout up by 12 with like 10 seconds to play.
19:52I think just to juice the stats a little bit.
19:54Yeah, they should have, but the Wizards were out of it at
19:56that point.
19:57Yeah, they need a differential.
20:00Yeah, but they don't because of the head-to-head matchups
20:02is the thing because they beat the Cavs.
20:05It's about a culture.
20:06Hawks beat the Celtics.
20:08So like we need the Cavs to beat the Hawks.
20:12So because right now actually the Celtics have I'm pretty sure
20:15when I last checked it's like to have a better point differential
20:17than the Hawks.
20:17Anyway, so all they just need to they just need to beat the
20:21Bulls.
20:21They need the Cavs to beat the Hawks and then the Celtics will
20:24be in first place in the group.
20:26I also think that like Cavs to beat the Hawks is a pretty good
20:30pretty good bet for the Celtics to make.
20:33So yeah, there's a there's a decent chance despite us after
20:37the first NBA Cup game Packard and I on the postgame are like
20:39great NBA Cups over but I have to worry about it anymore.
20:42It sounds like we they might actually have a good chance of
20:45moving on in this thing.
20:47It feels like the Celtics want to do that after how they showed
20:50up against the Wizards on NBA Cup night.
20:52Like they don't they won the NBA championship last year.
20:56I don't know if they're really necessarily interested in the
20:59Emirates NBA Cup be Rob how much NBA Cup is pumping through
21:02your veins right now.
21:04It's starting to feel a little bit of a pulse.
21:07I don't know.
21:07It's it's there because I mean again, we talked to Drew holiday
21:10after Friday's game and he's like, yeah, we thought we're
21:13going to Vegas last year.
21:14Like we were excited to go again.
21:17I don't from a strategic standpoint.
21:19Don't think going to Vegas is a great long-term play for a
21:23team with that said.
21:26Luke Cornette needs to pay his mortgage.
21:29Luke Cornette needs to pay it off.
21:30I like, you know, maybe he's going to put that money in the
21:33market and then do Bridgeland.
21:34We'll see but it is there now.
21:39Like I said, this is kind of falling into their lap.
21:41The perfect scenario.
21:41I Sean laid out there and I know they won the title now.
21:45So it's like this kind of invigorates them.
21:47Then who are we to say, you know, don't don't do it because
21:52now they get potentially what the the semifinals in the finals
21:56is spread out over like five days now so they could really
21:59like how many golf games is just Jason Tam, you don't get
22:01it in Vegas in the middle of the summer.
22:02Like this is the carrot is very much there for them.
22:05Now, if the they get some help from the Cavs here.
22:08So yes, I'm back on board.
22:13We'll see what if they manage to win the cup and win the
22:19title in the same year, then the cup becomes huge.
22:22Then it becomes like this is how we did the review.
22:25We were so dominant in year two that we I mean, it's very
22:30cool in like in soccer when you win the cup, the league
22:33and Europe and you can like Man City want to treble.
22:37I don't know what you you can't just call it a double the
22:40deuce people when the people want to double.
22:42Yeah, but what's a cool term for it?
22:44I see what you're saying.
22:45Yeah, the deuce is good.
22:47I'm saying, yeah, you're allowed to win two things.
22:49I'm not saying that's not allowed to see we need a cool
22:51name for it.
22:53And so if they manage to pull off the cup, if they go if
22:57they go championship cup championship, that's a three-peat
23:00in my book.
23:04Should they put on the banner?
23:05They put like maybe in the corner of the banner.
23:07They just as like a little and we also in the NBA Cup.
23:11Oh, yeah.
23:11Catch just like an iron man.
23:13Yeah, just a Nick banner 18.5.
23:18You can it only becomes like I don't care about the NBA
23:21Cup unless they win the championship after the NBA Cup.
23:26If that makes any sense, like and so I'll root for it, but
23:30it's not going to pay off until possibly in June is like the
23:33way I'll get that excited about a cup because it's just that
23:36much way of saying we were so much better than the rest of
23:38the league that we won your silly made-up tournament and
23:42we won the NBA championship and it's just like a way to stunt
23:45on these hoes hypothetically.
23:47Will you guys blame the NBA Cup though?
23:50If they win and then they lose the championship is the NBA
23:52Cup.
23:52I'll be in a heartbeat.
23:56Like maybe I I guess like if something bad happens during
24:00like the championship game, but like the rest of it's just
24:02like regular season games and I feel like they can't have to
24:06play one extra game if they are the extra game like the one
24:09extra game.
24:10I'm like maybe especially if like someone gets hurt like that
24:13day or after like if someone gets up any point down the
24:17after the words, it's like you don't know what the strain
24:19was having that one extra game.
24:22Yeah, we'll be looking back at highlights from that game being
24:24like it's probably this is probably this moment when he stepped
24:26weird, but I honestly think that like them.
24:31I think that the Cavs are a bigger push for the Celtics to
24:36like care about winning these games than the NBA Cup itself
24:39is because like Cavs has been really good and you want that
24:43number one spot and it's nice that like these silly games
24:45on the stupid courts also count towards that.
24:48Yeah, and the Cavs have just like that's why the Celtics are
24:53going to be in the Cup because there's no way they're going
24:55to lose to the Atlanta Hawks.
24:56They just keep winning and it's wild B-Rod you mentioned
24:59earlier, but the Celtics are already two and a half games
25:01back of the Cavs.
25:02They do have a three and a half game lead on the third place
25:06Orlando Magic.
25:07So it does seem like there's these two tiers here, but
25:11awkward advantage.
25:11I feel like is it is important in the playoffs and there they
25:15certainly have all the motivation they need.
25:16I still feel like they're going to rest guys when they can
25:18get a chance to rest especially the true holidays of the world
25:21and Al Horford's but the Cavs just keep on winning and the
25:24Cavs were like it was a very fun that two very fun games
25:28this week.
25:29I think the Cavs is just like a fun game of like Eastern
25:31Conference contender that is pushing them to kind of win
25:35these games with that being said were they really pushed
25:39that hard or motivated and I know what we said.
25:42We wouldn't talk about the Wizards game on Friday night,
25:44but they came out with no effort at all on the defensive
25:49end or on the offensive end or on the court at all.
25:53And so how motivated were they really maybe they were a little
25:56jazzed up.
25:57Maybe they were drinking too much of the Derek White after
26:01the White House doing some celebrating in DC B Rob.
26:05You were at the White House and I know the the still palatable
26:08subscribers heard you and Jay talked about a little bit,
26:10but I I haven't heard the full story, you know, it's not
26:13every day you get to go to our nation's capital.
26:15How was the how was the time, you know, seeing the Celtics
26:19hang out with a sleepy Joe at the White House?
26:24Sorry, it's so political.
26:26I mean, yeah, it was it was certainly a time.
26:31It was the ceremony was about eight or nine minutes, but it
26:36was very well attended at least like 500 friends, family,
26:41etc.
26:41It's not as anyone who's a cousin of a minority of a minority
26:44order.
26:44If you named any of any kind of connection you were in that
26:48I heard there's a lot of people in jerseys at the White House
26:51which didn't feel like appropriate.
26:53We saw a J King in a suit and a haircut and that didn't feel
26:56appropriate either but like a lot of people wearing Celtics
27:00jerseys to this White House ceremony.
27:04It just didn't feel right for the moment.
27:06But apparently anyone and their mother if they were at all
27:10connected to the Celtics could get to the White House.
27:12I did see that like the Massachusetts Lieutenant Governor
27:15Kim Driscoll was rocking like a Celtics t-shirt with like a
27:18jacket over it and was just like that was that was her look
27:20for the day and I love that.
27:22That's awesome.
27:23Did this like the whole Celtic or Massachusetts like the
27:28contingent go down from the Massachusetts state government?
27:30It seemed like every Celtics reporter who's ever covered the
27:33team was also there.
27:34Yes, it was very well attended by social media.
27:36And yeah, I imagine this is because again, as we mentioned
27:39so that's probably not going back there in the next four years
27:42would be my guess or slash any NBA team for that matter.
27:47What happened?
27:48I listen.
27:49Can we get tougher?
27:52Yeah, so that I think that standpoint and it was funny to hear
27:58the players afterwards kind of like downplay it.
28:01Jalen Brown said he'd rather go to Waffle House.
28:04Yeah, but then posting a thousand pictures on their social media
28:08like no, it's a cool experience for I think for everyone involved
28:13and yeah, I beyond I don't know.
28:17What did you guys I was worried about Biden a little bit when
28:21he would it sound like you said Baltimore at the beginning of
28:23the instead of bosses.
28:24I thought he said the Bulls won the championship, right?
28:27Weird.
28:28Yeah, false start to start but then he kind of recovered.
28:30It was like it was an upbeat, you know, he made some jokes
28:33kind of update stuff.
28:34So that was that was entertaining from that standpoint.
28:37But yeah, just a fun day good that I think they had outside
28:40given the amount of people were there and yeah, nice to get
28:45step foot in the White House and CJ King in a suit that was
28:48just I mean, you don't get an opportunity to do that often.
28:51Yeah, you got some picture behind the you know, the press secretary's
28:55the only other place you could go on the campus is pretty much
28:59That was the pressure in which is absolutely tiny given there's
29:03like a bazillion meter there.
29:05You're like what it is a smaller than a Celtics presser room.
29:08So I don't know how that works for them.
29:10That must be a tough squeeze in there on a day-to-day basis.
29:13But yeah, anywhere else we were kindly escorted off pretty quickly
29:18there.
29:18So please leave if you want to go back or do you want to go to
29:25maybe a different event?
29:26Maybe a live event that you have better access to you.
29:28Might I suggest the game time app?
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29:34It really made me miss watching live basketball until the basketball
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29:42I'm sure it'll be a lot more fun to go to a live basketball event
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30:42What time is it game time?
30:45Now Sean you um, I gotta I gotta take a comeuppance with you.
30:50I'm going to ombudsman the ombudsman here Wow on the outline you put
30:55in a check in on Baylor Shireman in the G League.
31:00I did listen.
31:02There weren't that many games this week.
31:05Tell us what's going on in made up with Baylor Shireman.
31:09He learned how to make a shot.
31:10He apparently can do that in the G League, but not the NBA.
31:13He can you know, maybe he needed to warm up.
31:15Maybe he needed some time up there.
31:17But yeah, Baylor Shireman.
31:18He's he's shooting 41% from three right now.
31:21He's got four makes a game.
31:24He's played six games, but like he's looking pretty solid.
31:27He's got like eight rebounds a game.
31:28Like, yeah, just good to see like development from Baylor Shireman.
31:32And I don't know, maybe maybe he and Jordan Walsh like switch spots
31:37and Baylor comes out and he's the hundredth man on the on the roster
31:42who plays three minutes instead of Jordan Walsh.
31:46I do like the fact that they're bringing him off the bench in Maine.
31:49They are.
31:49That's so mean.
31:50Yeah, that's right.
31:52So like, you know what, Baylor?
31:55This is we're pretty stacked here and you're never going to be starting
31:58for us in the.
32:00Oh, that is actually still like you got to learn how to like.
32:03Yeah.
32:03No, it is like I get it.
32:05I think it actually makes sense for me.
32:07Like, yeah, you know what, this is what you're if you're ever playing
32:09for us in the next year or two, you're 100% going to be coming off
32:12the bench with the Celtics.
32:13So guess what?
32:14This is what you're doing.
32:15And like Sean said, he's like finding some sort of rhythm, which is
32:19which is big for him because.
32:21After summer and preseason, there was really no semblance of any kind
32:25of rhythm, at least offensively, so if he's building back up some
32:30confidence, that's a pretty important deal for not for now, but certainly
32:36for the long term.
32:37He's also playing pretty decent minutes.
32:39I'm going to just have like a stats in front of me.
32:41I think I have watched one game.
32:44It was a game where JD Davison absolutely went off in that game.
32:47So no one pay attention to Baylor Shireman in that one, but he's playing
32:5032 minutes a game.
32:51And yeah, he's averaging 21 points a game like damn pretty pretty solid
32:56production for him from him up in Maine.
32:58So cheers to cheers to Baylor Shireman six man of the year in the G League.
33:02Look out.
33:03Oh, wow.
33:05Do they have that?
33:05I really hope they got it.
33:08I like the wrong thing.
33:10I'll ask my Nick Freeman.
33:12He's now the assistant coach.
33:13Yeah.
33:14How's did you catch up with Nick at the what's what's the latest?
33:16Oh, he was good.
33:18He was he was playing the Maine Celtics.
33:20They had a right.
33:21They were in Maine.
33:21They split.
33:22Oh, they were too.
33:23Oh, I was going to say, how did you go to that game?
33:25Oh, I wish I could have seen some go-go.
33:27I was I was asking around at the Wizards facility, you know, I was like
33:30talking to the media teams like you really need to highlight assistant
33:33coach Nick Freeman.
33:35He's got a lot of personality for you Wizards.
33:37I think him and gee whiz the mascot would could do Wonders together.
33:41I will say Wizards had some decent in-game in-game presentation.
33:46Gee whiz went crazy.
33:48They had a competition.
33:50They had Frisbee golf.
33:51They had musical chairs.
33:53They had a lot of stuff going on.
33:56And so if you're not going to have a good team might as well do good on
33:59the the entertainment.
34:00So good for the Wizards.
34:02I guess I guess it's a sad state of affairs.
34:07It's a sad state of affairs.
34:08All right.
34:08Let's get to the the segments of the show with moment of the week.
34:16Now, I feel like this one's pretty easy and normally I'll democratize
34:22this process and unless I hear any objections, I might just go full
34:25dictatorship, but I was watching today's game on a train back from
34:31DC back up to Philly.
34:33And when Jalen Brown hit that fifth three over Rudy Gobert, the fifth
34:38three, the only points in the Celtics.
34:40I audibly guffawed.
34:41I laughed.
34:42I chuckled and I looked around and I looked at the other people.
34:45I was like, are you seeing this shit?
34:47We weren't because I was watching on my phone.
34:50Moment of the week for the Celtics like that was just absolutely
34:53ridiculous.
34:54I five threes in five minutes to start the game and then just to not
34:59I guess he made some other threes that big one down the stretch, but
35:02I can't think of another singular moment in this week in Celtics.
35:06That's going to beat that.
35:08It's really not in the court and the fact that Jalen going to that game
35:11was shooting 28% from three on the year.
35:13It's like this is he needed one of those like that was a pretty big
35:17confidence boost for him to think and it that was playoff levels of
35:22pandemonium.
35:23Once you hit that fifth three at the garden today because they said that
35:26just for him to do that and that short stretch was wowed especially
35:29against the, you know, legit team in Minnesota.
35:32What do you think about I think he was asked about this after the game.
35:35He has been like like first quarter.
35:37Jalen has been a thing for the Celtics for a while now, but it the rotation
35:43is seen that it's now Tatum gets the entire first quarter and Jalen comes
35:47out.
35:47I think he was asked about that changing role after the game.
35:50He seemed to be fine with it, but I don't know if that's the actual case
35:54because it does seem like that has been a consistent thing of him coming
35:58out and playing all a lot of minutes in the in the first quarter, but that
36:01has not been the case this year.
36:03Yeah, it's something that's probably honestly been the most jarring shift
36:07of the year for and Joe was rotation and you wonder what led to it is just
36:13like more want to experiment with different stuff.
36:17Did Jason Tatum say hey man, like I want to be able to do this.
36:21I want to be able to get into a rhythm more to start these games and in
36:26Joe's I think does what Tatum wants him to do a lot.
36:29So he's like, yeah, let's try that.
36:30I don't know what exactly it is.
36:31What is it's like Jalen that's throughout his career has done the vast
36:35majority of his damage.
36:36I feel like in first quarters and so whether it's clearly working either
36:41way at this point, so there's no imperative shift, but I think it was
36:44I think good that Joe on a day like this decide.
36:48Hey, let's go back.
36:49Let's you know, whoever's got to go and that's who we're going to go
36:52for this first quarter because it clearly worked and I feel like I've
36:55seen a lot of first quarter Jason this year where he's had some huge
36:58quarters score over 15 points multiple times and maybe it's just the
37:02benefit of you know, getting all 12 minutes to go off, but it was
37:07certainly a fun moment there in the garden, but then it's just like
37:13immediately it was erased.
37:15You go up by like 15 to 4 or whatever 15 to 6 and then it's like, oh
37:19like we're down.
37:20It's just kind of that's how things work in the modern NBA.
37:24Yeah, it was.
37:25I think no one else hit a shot on the team until like there's two
37:28minutes left.
37:28The first quarter that the I was absolutely wild, but it's yeah made
37:33for a fun to start the game.
37:34Woke up on a Sunday afternoon.
37:37Any other honorable mentions for I guess moment of the week anything
37:41that deserves credit?
37:44Jake is just a white.
37:45I would say Jake in wearing a suit.
37:47Yeah, I was going to say the White House visit generally, but that is
37:51the highlight of the White House visit is Jake in the suit when I put
37:54that episode on to watch it earlier.
37:56I was like, I was like, I was like, am I seeing things?
37:58Is this is this Jake King in this suit on the podcast?
38:02I don't know if I'm allowed to tell this story, but I'm going to tell
38:05it anyway, because it made me laugh so much.
38:06Jay King needed to get a jacket because the event was so well attended
38:14that they pushed an indoor event to the outdoor event, right?
38:17And he needed a formal jacket.
38:20And so who does he call to go and buy that jacket with him?
38:25But one Tim Bond temps.
38:27And so I just want the listening folks out there to imagine Tim Bond
38:31temps and Jay King in some sort of department store in DC buying a
38:35jacket for Jay King and what just has to be a comedy of errors for
38:40everyone involved.
38:41I'm sorry, Jay.
38:43If I'm not allowed to tell the story, but the body bought a jacket
38:45with Tim Bond temps and it seems like that'd be a hilarious situation
38:49to be a fly on the wall.
38:51I'll say it looked good.
38:53They picked well, but if I need to go shopping again, that's what
38:59that's the guy.
38:59This guy look good on you.
39:02Negotiate a good deal to find a good bargain on short order.
39:07So it was a big win all around heading the White House.
39:11Yeah, that's pretty the White House versus Jalen Brown threes.
39:15It's tough.
39:15It's a tough matchup right there, but we'll give a slight not to
39:19Jalen.
39:19I think he deserves it.
39:21All right.
39:21Next segment is shit.
39:23Joe Missoula says.
39:29Now, he had a couple good quotes this week, but the definitely the
39:32best one was and again, we're going back to this Wizards game.
39:36Everything comes back to the he was asked about the White House
39:40visit and he was because Joe Biden mentioned their points per
39:44possession and he said we're pretty good on defense to which is
39:48Classic Missoula just not at all, you know, it'd be happy for a
39:52moment, but then he got a technical foul in the game and said it
39:57changed the energy.
39:57He was he said it thought it kind of changed it what the environment
40:01need at the time.
40:01You have to make those calls from time to time.
40:03I thought the team is playing pretty pretty good.
40:05It wasn't like I needed to do that, but I felt like it was a way to
40:08manipulate the environment and I just like the way he thinks about
40:12things.
40:12I like the way the man's brains work.
40:14Have you ever seen a coach actively manipulate the environment like
40:18that be rubbed or at least admit to it or put it in those terms?
40:23Yeah, I mean, I feel like I have but now yes, really not playing
40:25times, but they don't say they're manipulating the environment.
40:28Yeah, but over the years whether it's NBA coaches MLB managers.
40:33I can't imagine amount of times guys have gone to refs or umpires
40:37like like teaming up or throw me out of this game right now.
40:40Like this is a job here.
40:41But Joe Joe did I'll give you a credit like Joe does not get technicals.
40:46So he does pick his spots quite well of this like and he he does tend
40:51to flip out when he does get them.
40:52But he has to be held back.
40:54This is right.
40:55It's been held back held back by but you think that's all performative
40:59or do you think he's like because he sounds like it's very much like
41:02I need to get a tech right now and some coaches might be say like
41:05tee me up, but no Joe is just going to be like I'm going to go crazy
41:09and I might make my head assistant coaches hold me back until they
41:13give me a tech.
41:15Yeah, that's what I was going to say is like is Joe the greatest
41:17actor alive because like Joe looks like he was going to murder a person
41:21on that court.
41:22So the fact that he afterwards was like, oh no, I just really needed
41:25to do energize the squad a little bit here.
41:27I was like, it's like he gave himself freedom is like he wants to do
41:31that at all times.
41:33But now he's like it's appropriate now for you to get a tech.
41:35So let your full emotions actually be able to take over.
41:39I don't think any of its acting.
41:40I think it's all genuine.
41:41He's just has he's such a mental Alpha that he's just like, all right,
41:45the normal controls you have on Joe Missoula take him off for this
41:48one 30-second period and then you can lock back in and so that's
41:53that's manipulating the environment.
41:55I think that's great.
41:57Another great Joe Missoula moment from this week before the Cavs
42:00game.
42:01They said they asked him why the NBA Cup was so important and he
42:04just said who said that no.
42:09I was made for at least those Chris Casper for the club asked that
42:14they'd be like, well, like if okay, like you don't think it matters
42:18and then he went to a long answer explaining the his favorite ends
42:22announcement, but it is it's he's letting himself.
42:25I think he's just like the king of you know, bullshitting I guess
42:30and now he's letting that come out more and more whether he's
42:32manipulating the environment or going back and forth reporters
42:36loosely.
42:36So it's we're getting a nice piece of Joe in these these pressers.
42:43Absolutely.
42:43I think he's just and I experienced my first pregame presser of
42:47the year.
42:49I think he lasted all of 30 seconds short to the point.
42:53No one wanted to ask questions palpable fear in all of the media
42:59for not wanting to piss off Joe Missoula.
43:02I missed it, you know, I didn't realize how much I missed that the
43:06weird awkward.
43:07It's not awkward, but just like the pregame press conference is
43:11just a very weird thing that we just kind of do by routine at
43:15this point and the coach never wants to do it because he does
43:20he has a game.
43:21He wants to focus on and there's never like a lot of information
43:24gleaned in those sessions, but it is just like part of the fun
43:28routine of covering an NBA game and I was like, man, I missed
43:32this.
43:32It's I've been doing it doing it so long, but this was my first
43:35time seeing it this year.
43:37There can be a father coaches Packard.
43:39Oh, yeah, just not just not with Joe Missoula, not with Brad
43:44Stevens.
43:46It was COVID when he made was there.
43:47So I didn't have a lot of the situation, but in all my time
43:50covering the league.
43:50Yeah, some you get a Doc Rivers in there and he'll talk here
43:53ahead like pop will go on for ages.
43:57They get a fun visiting coach.
43:59Yeah, it's a good opportunity for pregame press conference,
44:02but not not Joe.
44:05He's a steely eyed business.
44:06He's locked in.
44:08It's while we're on the topic of things I missed.
44:14We I just it was my first game this year, but we had a solid
44:18session before the at the media dining before the Wizards game
44:21of just a guys in the media name and dudes.
44:24What was it?
44:24The 20 2012 Philadelphia 76 years where he went through the
44:29whole roster and you know, it's like I didn't realize how much
44:32I missed name and dudes with a group of dudes, but it really
44:37took me back.
44:38That's that's community right there folks.
44:40I missed out on one NBA media dining and to name and dudes
44:46and so it might have to be a regular turn that into a regular
44:49segment for us.
44:50The thing is Jay King is so good at name and dudes, right?
44:54In Central College.
44:56Yeah, I think he let it off with a solid Lavoie Allen reference
44:59or maybe that was you be robbed.
45:01But that was him.
45:01That was definitely J.
45:02That was a great pull and yeah, then we went down to the roster
45:06that lost to the Celtics in a seven games there.
45:09But yeah, that's a we're gonna have to turn out again.
45:11Get beating J and that will be.
45:14Oh, wow.
45:15That's a great thing.
45:16The competition will pick an NBA team in a year.
45:19Yeah, we'll name dudes and see who can win J versus who's who's
45:22the last person to go?
45:23We'll go around.
45:25All right, you are on your to-do list.
45:28Sean is for a name and dudes with J King great final segment
45:34of the day.
45:36This is the still potable potable still.
45:41And this one we didn't get to cover it in the postgame potable
45:45potable postgame against the Cavs, but this came afterwards.
45:49It's just this image of Derek White furiously looking at a
45:53whole Jason Tatum laughing his ass off.
45:57I when I tweeted this out and you know, I'm not going to do
46:00the thing where I share my own tweet mostly because I forgot
46:04to do that, but it does look like Derek White just sat on
46:07a whoopee cushion that Jason Tatum placed on his seat, but
46:11and for the I hope I'm describing it well enough.
46:15But if you for the people who are listening to the podcast
46:17if you want to take a look you can go to our blue sky at
46:21still potable dot BSKY dot social that just comes off the
46:25tongue.
46:26That's a good way to social network.
46:30But yes people all of us are on a blue sky, but it will be
46:33posting some clips there.
46:36But this is just it has to be the still potable potable still
46:39of the week.
46:40There's look like having so much fun be Rob.
46:43Are you still against the the joint press conference between
46:45the Jason Tatum and Derek White?
46:52Yes.
46:53I like that they had the funny moment there too, but generally
46:57overall not a good press conference and honestly that one
47:02had some awkward moments in it like those two.
47:04I know it's like the chemist they need to work on the chemistry.
47:09Well, how else are they going to work on the chemistry if
47:10they don't get more reps?
47:11Yeah, that's your way.
47:12They couldn't work on the chemistry.
47:13Oh, that's right.
47:14Think Abbott and Costello just had it all figured out the
47:17first time.
47:18No, but that was a good one.
47:20Yeah, so I'll give him that time.
47:22We'll give him the rope there like I they're both, you know,
47:26I feel like Derek White is very entertaining.
47:29I feel like he's a very funny guy.
47:30I think so.
47:31Maybe he he builds up that stage presence more and but that
47:36that was a funny moment.
47:37That was certainly a memorable moment from that one.
47:38So they they made the best of that.
47:39They just need to hit on that consistency.
47:42That was when I believe it was the first time.
47:44I think it was the first time.
47:45I think it was the first time.
47:46I think it was the first time.
47:48That was when I believe it was said Tatum said Al was his
47:51favorite teammate and Derek White was quite upset.
47:56Sean, do you have any Ombudsman moments for us?
48:03No, no, I don't.
48:06Because I cut my Ombudsman in the Ombudsman.
48:07I really put you.
48:08Yeah, you really flipped it around on me.
48:11I also feel like now I need a second person with me for the
48:14Ombudsman section.
48:16Oh, yeah.
48:16It's a practice.
48:17Yeah, it's kind of adding more and more characters to the
48:19show.
48:22We're creating a still potable universe.
48:25Yeah, I think I think there's one.
48:27There's one transition.
48:28I want to show even though we're not going to do this segment
48:30because I just need B Rob to see this and I need the reaction
48:35on camera.
48:35I have to have a big.
48:37So, yeah, let's let it roll.
48:39Scats from B Rob.
48:47See, I knew I said we don't want to say that I wasn't bringing
48:50the goods.
48:51I didn't have the goods this week.
48:54So that's exactly because I got nothing to match that kind
48:56of an intro.
48:57So now, now, you know, now the pressure is really on.
49:02Play it again.
49:03Scats from B Rob.
49:06It's like a very good that I have no musical talent and I
49:11don't have like a vocoder and a synthesizer.
49:13If I had a live, you know how some people have like a tube
49:16coming out of their mouth and they can do like do that.
49:18Like if I could do that on podcast, J King would quit.
49:25I would be so obnoxious if I had any sort of musical ambition.
49:31So it's a good thing for you guys that I don't.
49:32It's a good thing that we're still together and when we're
49:35going to be coming to you with more podcasts for the rest of
49:38the week is that's what we do.
49:39So if you want more still potable, if you want to, you know,
49:43maybe the more people who subscribe, we can get me a vocoder
49:47and I can start doing entire pods like I was T-Pain.
49:51Wow, that that would sell.
49:54I think I think we have a million dollar idea here.
49:58So if you want to join this still potable community, go to
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50:23It's the best Celtics podcast here on Al Gore's internet and
50:26we'll be back with you the rest of the week.
50:29Thank you guys for listening.
50:34Still potable.
50:35Still potable.
50:36Oh, yeah.
50:43Go down there from eating and drinking and all that wild stuff.