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Welcome back to the Bob Ryan and Jeff Goodman NBA Podcast! In today's episode, Bob Ryan and Gary Tanguay discuss the return of Kristaps Porzingis and how he's changing the dynamic of the Celtics. Their conversation then shifts to the Milwaukee Bucks, who have gained some momentum after their horrid start. Plus, some praise for LaMelo Ball, who's lighting up the scoresheet right now.  0:00 - Intro 0:32 - Celtics' strong start 1:58 - Porzingis' impact 3:14 - Upcoming Cleveland game 5:38 - Porzingis' psychological advantage 6:45 - Miami's close win 8:47 - Giannis' consistent greatness 12:01 - East vs West discrepancy 14:02 - Changing of the Guard 15:26 - East Championship Favorites 16:30 - Knicks' Title Chances 18:15 - Oklahoma City vs Field 20:46 - Sideline actions impact 24:00 - LaMelo's scoring stats 26:23 - Kids can play   CLNS Media is Powered by:  💰 Prize Picks - https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/CLNS Download the app today and use Code CLNS when you sign up & Get $50 instantly when you play $5!  🎫 Gametime - https://gametime.co Take the guesswork out of buying NBA tickets with Gametime. Download the Gametime app, create an account, and use code CLNS for $20 off your first purchase. Download Gametime today. Terms apply. What time is it? Gametime!  💳Start earning points on rent you’re already paying by going to joinbilt.com/GARDEN. Make sure to use our URL so they know we sent you: joinbilt.com/GARDEN, to start earning points on your rent payments today!  Elevate your style game on and off the course with the PXG Spring Summer 2024 collection. Head over to https://PXG.com/GARDENREPORT and save 10% on all apparel.  Nutrafol! Take the first step to visibly thicker, healthier hair. For a limited time, Nutrafol is offering our listeners ten dollars off any purchase and free shipping when you go to https://Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code GARDENGIFT!   #celtics #NBA #BostonCeltics The CLNS Media Network is the leading provider for video/audio content. CLNS is a fully credentialed member of the media with access to all NFL/NBA/NHL/MLB teams & venues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------  CLNS' rebuilt their YouTube community in less than 12 months, during a pandemic that attacked sports. Wondering how? Find out here (and support our channel) - https://www.tubebuddy.com/clnsmedia  Visit the Official Home of CLNS Sports Coverage -  https://clnsmedia.com  Twitter - https://twitter.com/CLNSMedia Celtics - https://twitter.com/celticsclns Patriots - https://twitter.com/patriotsclns Bruins - https://twitter.com/bruinsclns Red Sox - https://twitter.com/redsoxclns Non-Sports - https://twitter.com/northstation Facebook - http://facebook.com/clnsmedia INSTA - http://Instagram.com/clnsmedia INSTA Celtics - http://Instagram.com/celticsclns INSTA History - http://Instagram.com/nbahistoryclns

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00:00Okay, post-Turkey day, Bob Ryan, Gary Tanguy, just rolling in here, folks, brought to you

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00:32Okay, Bob, the last time we talked about the Celtics, not a lot going on since, however,

00:36you have noticed that the league has been put on notice with, to be redundant, with

00:41the appearance of Mr. Porzingis.

00:44Absolutely.

00:45They went off to a 14-3 start without him, or at least, and the world has kind of semi-forgotten

00:54about him, and now that he's back, that first game, he got everybody's attention, and not

01:00the average fan is going to see the three-point shot and all that, but the league in general

01:04is reminded about what he means to the Celtics' defense, and their numbers, they've been getting

01:10attacked in the paint.

01:11Right.

01:12I mean, in the midst of it, there were games when they lost and games where they were very

01:16lucky to survive after being shredded in the paint, and that nonsense stopped right away

01:22with Minnesota, even with a potent force such as Colbert around.

01:27He's important to the defense as well as the offense.

01:30He's such, I mean, in general, he's so much a better all-around player than I ever thought

01:36when they got him.

01:37I have to keep going back to the fact that when they got him, I went, well, all right,

01:41we'll see.

01:43I'm not big on seven-three guys shooting jump shots all night long, and he's so much more

01:48than that, but the thing was, he was just off the radar screen in Washington, particularly.

01:53Nobody watched the Wizards two years ago, so I had no idea what was going on.

01:57Anyway, he's back.

01:58We don't know how long he'll be back.

02:00We hope he's going to be around at the right time of the year.

02:03It's probably never going to change.

02:05He's always going to be injury, I don't know if the word should be prone, but injury, what?

02:12I don't know.

02:12Find the right word.

02:13Maybe it is injury prone.

02:14I mean, I know what you're saying, injury prone, because you don't want that to be an

02:17insult, but his physical makeup makes him very susceptible.

02:22Yeah, I mean, he had multiple injuries last year, and the injury that KO'd him after he

02:29got brought back had nothing to do with the one that kept him out for 37 days.

02:33So that's the thing.

02:34People have to be cognizant.

02:35So I guess what we say is, as I like to point out in a lot of cases, enjoy it while you

02:39get it, boys.

02:40Enjoy the ride, and this is why I value the regular season in terms of the entertainment

02:46value, and he gave them a show the other night, and hopefully he's going to be able to give

02:51them several more shows this year.

02:53But he's back now.

02:55They got a gimme game.

02:57They better win on Friday night, and then they got appointment to television, too, for

03:02the early season.

03:03They go to Cleveland, and in the midst of an NFL season, that's not going to get a lot

03:08of national attention, but in the world of the NBA, it's going to get a lot of attention.

03:13So they go to Cleveland on Sunday, and that's going to be fun, no question.

03:17Bob, with Porzingis, the fact that he came into a team already with superstars, already

03:23with a structure, it probably enabled him to play freer.

03:27Now, like you said, in Washington, his numbers were better than people think.

03:30When he was with the Knicks, and then, I got to be honest with you, I don't know what the

03:35hell happened in Dallas, but when he was with the Knicks, he was the guy, right?

03:40Haven't you seen players in the past that just don't do well in that role, but you bring

03:45them on another team where they don't have to be the guy, and they flourish?

03:48Yeah, many examples of that, and many examples of guys who were born to be number three,

03:53or born to be number two, and he's definitely, he's a two, a very valuable two, if you will.

04:00By the way, I loved, just as an aside, when we honored Dee Brown at the Tradition in Boston

04:06a week ago Wednesday, and what he told me in his story that I did on him, was he says,

04:12I was never a number one, I was a pretty good number two, and basically, I'm a damn good number

04:17three. You know what? He's right, and that kind of self-awareness is all too rare in all sports,

04:25right? We're always on the lookout for guys who really know who they are, and what their place

04:33is, and what their role is, and what their job is, and do not bring an over-inflated ego to the

04:39situation, and that was a classic example. Anyway, yeah, Porzingis is a wonderful,

04:46high-level adjunct player, and it gives him a very important force in the middle,

04:53in a league where there are some acknowledged superstars at that position, we know that,

04:57but he gives them all they need, he gives them exactly what they need.

05:01Does he give them a psychological advantage, because as you said, we were talking earlier,

05:06you said, well, Porzingis in that one game put the league on notice.

05:09Yeah, we might have been fans, yeah, I can't remember just how, the difference,

05:14yeah, absolutely, and it makes you think, my God, they were 14-3 without him, and you know,

05:20some of them were shaky, we agree to that, they were shaky, and fine, you know, nobody's winning

05:2582 games, you know, convincingly, but it's just, the good times should be back, and you know,

05:33keep your fingers crossed on the injury thing, but we welcome the guy back, it's great.

05:39You know, I just think that if you're going into the play with Celtics, and then,

05:42especially in the opening round of the playoffs, or in a playoff situation,

05:45then you look down, you say, oh, Porzingis is playing tonight, you're like, oh, geez,

05:49we had a shot, until, you know. You know, our chances have been severely diminished, yes.

05:54Diminished, and that enters into, even though they're professional athletes,

05:57that enters into their heads. Okay, the Milwaukee Bucks, at 9-9 now.

06:03They started at 1-6 and 2-8, and we're saying, oh, and I think I declared them done,

06:09I think I said the window's shut. They've won their last five, as we speak. However,

06:15however, four at home, first four were at home. Two of them were notable to, you know,

06:23where you better win. They won, they beat Houston, who have entered into the category,

06:29you've got to respect. They beat the Bulls, they're not here, the Bulls are, you know,

06:33also in. They beat Indiana, and they're not playing the way they should, but, and then

06:41they beat Charlotte, and everybody beats Charlotte. So, and then they went to Miami and won

06:46by three points, and lured, and this is where, I'm not, you know, I'm not paying microscopic

06:52attention to them, but I got a figure that Lowery's playing better, or else this wouldn't

06:57be happening. It took him an awful long time to acclimate himself, you know, to Milwaukee and

07:03that team. The other guy that I love talking about, because to me it's one of the most

07:08fascinating stories, and so emblematic of the way the league has changed over the years,

07:14Brooke Lopez, who's now 36, and he's playing well right now, at both ends of the floor,

07:20and until two years ago, I never even thought of, did you ever think of him as a major defensive

07:24deterrent? Well, I didn't either, but he is, and it's an important part of their game,

07:33and the other thing is his reinvention. He's the greatest example of a big man recognizing how the

07:39world has changed, because it just, I urge everybody, just go back and look up what his

07:45career trend was on threes, and how the first X years of his career, four, five, six years,

07:51you know, he barely took double figures combined, and now he's a major three-point threat. He's

07:56made himself, that's a tribute to a guy that, he must have spent a lot of hours in the gym, Gary,

08:01to do that, and he did. He had a devastating leg injury too. Yeah, right, right. I think he probably

08:08felt like he had to reinvent himself. Well, he sure did, and it's given him, you know, so anyway,

08:13I'm a doc phobe, you know that, I mean phile, excuse me, not phobe. Oh yeah, yeah, no, I got

08:17you. Doc phile. I'm happy for Doc. His reputation has taken a real beating, you know, in the last

08:22couple of years, let's face it, ever since he left here, you know, the playoff failures with

08:27the Clippers, and of course the 76ers, and now, and last year with Milwaukee, he had no positive

08:34effect on them whatsoever that we could see, so I'm hoping that, you know, that I want Doc to do

08:40well, not well enough to beat the Celtics, but I want him to do well. So by the way, Yanis, he's

08:47long since reached a point where he's taken for granted. He's totally, we just take this nightly

08:51incredible athleticism and stuff, he's averaging 32 points a game as I speak, okay. He's leading

08:57the league, he's a previous MVP, he's nowhere, he's still got, he's as good as he's ever been,

09:04and he's just, we appreciate the guy. The guy's an all-time great, and he's, so as long as they

09:10got him every night, they go out on the floor, they got a chance to win, but they're back, and

09:14they're back in, you know, 500 and on their way, you know, they'll be in a 4-5-6 category,

09:20I think, in the, you know, playoff thing, so. All right, coming up next, Bob's going to break down

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11:10PrizePix, run your game. Okay, Bob, we get back to it now here. And East-West,

11:17you've done some research, my friend. Just when I started to think last year, the gap

11:24was sufficiently closing between the East and the West. Things have rarely been worse this year.

11:30How many Eastern teams do you think are over 500 as we speak?

11:36Three. Four.

11:39How many West teams do you think are over 500 as we speak?

11:43Five, six.

11:45Ten.

11:46Ten are over 500?

11:48Golden State, Lakers, Clippers, Suns, Rockets, Grizzlies, Mavericks, Spurs, Thunder,

11:55Nuggets. Ten.

11:57Wow.

11:59Yeah, you said there's a discrepancy. I should have gone for a bigger number. You said there

12:02was a discrepancy.

12:03The conference, no Eastern conference is, a division, excuse me, is over 500. The Atlantic

12:12is 42 and 49 as we speak. Southeast is 37 and 53. And the Central, including a 17 and 2 team,

12:22is 34 and 43.

12:25The East is top-heavy.

12:27It's 51 and 45, including. Without, you subtract Cleveland, it's 34 and 43. But the Central is

12:34over 500, thanks to Cleveland, only thanks to Cleveland. Okay. Now in the West, the Pacific

12:41is 54 and 39, including, they're very analogous to the NFC West, because Golden State's 12 and

12:476, LA Lakers are 11 and 7, Clippers are 12 and 8, and Phoenix is 10 and 8. And as you well know,

12:53the NFC West is completely on a five-way tie on this, dammit. Okay. The Southwest conference is

12:5951 and 45, and the Northwest is under at 43 and 47. But the discrepancy, 10 over 500 in the West,

13:074 over 500 in the East, and you want to know why, the answer is, I don't know.

13:16What is, I mean, we can look at who the teams are and how they, but how they got this way.

13:21Is there some kind of geographic pattern? I don't see how there could be. Just better,

13:26just luck of the draw. Well, I think I look at the East as being top-heavy,

13:31that the favorite, that you have the Celtics, and we'll wait and see what happens with Cleveland.

13:37But right now, it's the Celtics and Cleveland, and pretty much anybody else. But our West is

13:43just, I don't know, more parity. We'd have to look at the state. You wonder how this evolved.

13:47This has been going on for quite a while, the West, you know, over quite a while.

13:51Well, I thought the East was going to put a dent in it a few years back. But the problem is,

13:58Philadelphia has never lived up to the billing, and the Knicks aren't living up to the billing.

14:03So I thought, when Philadelphia, when, you know, Philadelphia started playing well,

14:08then the Knicks got Timbs and got some players, I thought there was going to be sort of a changing

14:11of the guard, if you will, because I thought Phoenix was getting older. I thought Golden

14:15State was done. Obviously, I was wrong. But Golden State was done.

14:19No, Golden State, I got to give them credit. They put some faith in some younger players,

14:26and they're being rewarded to a degree with that faith. They've sufficiently managed to

14:31replace Klay Thompson, basically, with Buddy Heald. He's doing a good job, about as well as

14:36Klay Thompson is doing in Mavericks, if even better. And Curry hasn't appeared to lose a

14:42damn thing. He hasn't lost anything at his age. And Curr is obviously a superior coach.

14:48But I never would have thought that they'd be the top of the division. Then again, you say,

14:52well, who? However, well, in a conference, you know, you always figure, you know, Denver's

14:57underachieving. Oklahoma City is pretty much living up to it. Minnesota's underachieving,

15:04right, we think. Right.

15:05And now, at this latest, Anthony Edwards is calling them out. Oh, boy, good luck to that

15:09out there. I'm telling you, that is a, that's going to explode.

15:12He's calling them out? Oh, boy.

15:14That's going to explode.

15:15Anyway, the West dominance is as much as it's ever been.

15:19But do you think, I understand what you're saying, Bob, as far as the numbers go,

15:22but don't you feel the championship's coming out of the East?

15:25Well, right now, yeah, having said that, obviously, the two teams, right now,

15:30playoffs start tonight, they'd be the favorites, two of them.

15:34Okay, let's have some fun with this. So, when Milwaukee's making a comeback, and arguably,

15:40no disrespect to Tatum and Brown, but, I mean, the Freak is arguably the best player in the league,

15:45correct? He or Djokic?

15:48Okay, fine. Okay, and then, okay, so, out of the East, if Milwaukee,

15:53Milwaukee gets their act together with that guy, and, you know, if Lillard finds his way in the

15:59playoffs, I mean, Milwaukee is a threat to win it. I don't, you love the Knicks, I don't know

16:04if the Knicks can win it. I really, I don't know.

16:08You know, their offense, you know, they just had this incredible run.

16:11They went 131-30 and 145, you know, in a stretch, but their defense is not

16:18Tibbs' kind of defense yet, and they're very thin. They're very dependent on,

16:23and because Miles McBride, who scorched the Celtics on opening night, Miles McBride is

16:28hurt right now. Their bench is really thin. It's all about those five guys, and, you know,

16:33people, Tibbs has been criticized in the past for overworking his starters,

16:37and he's very defensive about it, but right now he's playing them heavy minutes again.

16:43I think it's time for them to, their offense is good. I mean, it's really good, and they'll put

16:49some serious numbers up, but they're not playing the kind of two-way basketball that you think

16:53they would be playing, but right now, they're 10-8, and that was after a real bad start,

16:59so I think they'll get better.

17:01But your real contenders, I mean, if you thought, like, I don't know if the Knicks

17:05could win a title. I thought Philadelphia might have had a shot, but they're a mess.

17:08I mean, that's just not working.

17:09Three and 14. Ladies and gentlemen, they're one game ahead of the Wizards.

17:15I mean, that's just a mental thing. They're going to have to blow it up. There's obviously

17:19not a lot of happy players there, so, I mean, you have the Celtics, you have the Bucs,

17:24then I guess you have Golden State and probably Denver. Would you throw Dallas in there?

17:28So, you know, there's a lot of, like you mentioned, there's a lot of parody,

17:33but how many real contenders are there?

17:36I really think, no. I mean, Oklahoma City, clearly, yes. They're 14-4. I think they're

17:43legit. Denver is not playing the way they can or should or maybe will. No matter how

17:50well Golden State is playing, they're not winning the championship. That Lakers team

17:53is a little bit better than I thought they'd be because they have some good players that

17:57have helped them.

17:57You don't think Golden State can win another one?

17:59With this group? Boy, I'd be, I can't. I just can't see them. I can't. I give them credit

18:06for doing what they're doing, but I just, and by the way, they're starting to stumble.

18:12And I think it's going to come down, Oklahoma City versus the field in the West, frankly.

18:17Okay. Well, there you go.

18:19All right. Now, we've got to turn our attention to the world of semi-pro basketball.

18:26Namely, the American colleges, where a very disturbing and different levels thing happened

18:34in Maui, where the coach of the two-time defending national champion UConn Huskies,

18:40truly, if ever a coach lost the game, and you can put the blame on him, and it was Danny

18:47Hurley with the score tied and 40 seconds to go, coming off two straight losses to unranked teams,

18:54picks up a whiny technical, yeah, it was a bad call. I saw it. It wasn't the worst call

19:00in the history of American civilization. It was a marginal call. It was a bad call.

19:05He went nuts and got himself thrown out of the game with the accompanying technicals and with

19:11the four free throws that were awarded to the opponent, they made them all, and UConn won't

19:18loss. How can he look his team in the eye? He's very defensive. I want to know what I want to

19:24know. I mean, all right. It's been highly observed that he's very volatile and fiery, all these

19:33wonderful adjectives, and it's part of his charm because he's a fiery, intense guy and blah, blah,

19:38blah. When you win two championships in a row, you get indulged in any sport, right? You get

19:44indulged, but is the AD going to censure him in any way? Is the school president going to say,

19:53hey, this is not the kind of way we represent it to the world?

19:57I mean, look, that guy, no one's going to say anything to that guy. That's the way it goes.

20:03That's, yeah. No, I agree, especially with the fact, act like you've been there before,

20:08especially when you've won like two titles, and you just got a big contract. I mean,

20:14you can relax a little bit, and maybe you just- Oh, God, he's set for life and many lives,

20:21but anyway, there comes a point where being fiery and colorful and-

20:29Gets old.

20:30Draw the line.

20:31Well, it gets old, especially, I mean, it's okay if you win. Look, he's set. His job is not in

20:37jeopardy, believe me.

20:39But you can get away with that stuff when you're winning. That's the great thing, but-

20:45But when you directly had a primary reason why your team loses the game, and because of your

20:52sideline actions, that's rare. I cannot cite another example that comes to my mind of that

21:03nature.

21:04He really went after the refs in the press conference.

21:07Yeah.

21:08I mean, he really went after them. He took no accountability.

21:12No, everybody should be respecting and defending me, because I was just standing up for my team's

21:17rights and all that nonsense. Oh, no, no, you can't do that. Well, but he did do it, and you're

21:22right. He probably would be left free to do whatever he wants. You know they're going to

21:26bounce back, although Alex Caravan, arguably their best player, may have suffered a concussion. We're

21:32going to find out about him. Now, he was cleared to fly home, which is a start, but he banged his

21:38head on the floor. That's an NBA prospect there, Alex Caravan. But they got plenty of time to

21:45right the ship, and then, of course, once you get in the tournament, eventually-

21:48Yeah, who knows what happens?

21:49Anything can happen. We've seen 10 teams, 10 lost teams, win the tournament. So hello,

21:54Villanova, 85. And hello, North Carolina State, 83. So it can happen.

22:00But anyway, I just think it's not a good thing.

22:05No, it's not a great look. Not a great look. Okay, coming up next, we're going to talk about

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23:52Okay, Bob. Lamella Ball, you wanted to sing his praises a bit. He's putting up some individual

23:56stats, but they're not resulting in team wins. No, no. He's as hot a scoring guy as there is

24:02in the league right now. He's coming off a 42-point game or 44, taking a lot of shots.

24:07He's turning the clock back to the NBA I grew up with. Now, I'm serious. I'm talking about

24:1250s and 60s as well as the 70s when I actually covered and began covering when, you know, guys,

24:19nobody shot 50%, Gary, you know? Right.

24:22Maybe Wilt because of all the dunks and stuff. But you didn't shoot. To score, you got to get

24:29some shots up. It wasn't uncommon for somebody to take 40 shots. By the way, tonight Wilt had 100.

24:35I'm laughing about this now. Wilt took 63 shots and made 36. He also was 28 for 32 from the line,

24:44which means he was fouled one way or the other 16 more times.

24:49Wouldn't you love to see that game and see how you get a lot of it done in 48 minutes?

24:54Anyway.

24:55You want the evidence.

24:57Lamella, I think he took 40 shots the other day. He took a lot of shots. I haven't seen that in a

25:01while. He's talented. He's an offensive machine, okay? Daddy Lamar was right. Lonzo, the problem

25:10is that they both get hurt. Lonzo's hurt now again. They really were, I don't know, as good

25:17as Lamar said they were, but he was right. They were definitely NBA players of stature,

25:22both of them, Lamella and Lonzo.

25:25I didn't think they'd be around this long. Like the way the father talked and how obnoxious he

25:29was, I was just like, these kids, there's no way they could be this good. They're still around.

25:34Oh, they are. So now the thing is with Lamella, he's putting up the points. I forget the numbers,

25:39but the numbers are there. The more points he scores, the more they lose. The less points he

25:45scores, the better chance they have of winning. Now, I think that's not uncommon. That's certainly

25:51something, a phenomenon that's happened many times with many schools over the years.

25:59They may have to reconsider how they're doing things in that franchise.

26:03I just want to say in terms of the skill, the raw skill level, the young man is an

26:09excellent player. He's a scary guy going up and down the court. He goes to the basket really well.

26:15You didn't want Lamar to be right. Not that you wanted bad things for the kids,

26:19but you couldn't have both, I guess. But Lamar, you were right. The kids can play, okay?

26:24All right. There you go.

26:25And the daddy has been fairly quiet.

26:27We haven't heard from him in years. That's good.

26:29That is a good thing. I think maybe the kid said, listen, Pops, enough.

26:34Enough. We love you, but enough.

26:38Exactly.

26:38All right, Bob. Did you have a good Thanksgiving?

26:41We had a very nice family-oriented. We got my three grandchildren all together here,

26:46the triplets, with my grandson's girlfriend and a college friend of his.

26:55From St. Michael's, good old St. Michael's of Winterski, Vermont. Yeah, St. Mike's.

27:01St. Mike's is the best.

27:05But the real treat is ahead of us because nothing's better than the follow-up leftover dinner.

27:12It's even better. Somehow, it's always better.

27:15It is.

27:16I can't wait to get back at that stuffing. I'll tell you that right now.

27:21Bob, great minds think alike. Enjoy it, my friend.

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27:29Until next week, Bob Ryan, we'll see you later.

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