Join Jay King and Brian Robb as they dive into the highlights of the Boston Celtics' thrilling 107-100 preseason victory over the Denver Nuggets in Abu Dhabi! In this episode of Still Poddable, they break down standout performances from players like Payton Pritchard, who led the team in scoring with his impressive shooting range, and Derrick White, whose aggressive play helped shift the momentum.
They also discuss the impact of Al Horford's rest day and the promising contributions from Luke Kornet and Xavier Tillman, who stepped up in the center position. With roster spots on the line, we analyze the competition among Jaden Springer, Jordan Walsh, and Baylor Scheierman as they vie for minutes. Tune in for insights on player dynamics and what this means for the Celtics as they gear up for the regular season!
0:00 - Intro
1:00 - Celtics preseason opener
3:00 - Impressive Tillman performance
5:00 - Deep center rotation
6:34 - Impressive performances
8:21 - Derrick White's aggression
11:03 - White's competitive edge
12:54 - Nuggets' three-point strategy
16:23 - Pritchard's preseason performance
19:07 - Springer and Walsh compete
22:43 - Baylor Scheierman's struggles
25:15 - Lonnie Walker's role
26:51 - Lonnie's tough climb
30:16 - Game's sloppy moments
31:53 - Jaden Springer's debut
33:40 - New challenge rule
36:03 - JD's alley-oop skills
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They also discuss the impact of Al Horford's rest day and the promising contributions from Luke Kornet and Xavier Tillman, who stepped up in the center position. With roster spots on the line, we analyze the competition among Jaden Springer, Jordan Walsh, and Baylor Scheierman as they vie for minutes. Tune in for insights on player dynamics and what this means for the Celtics as they gear up for the regular season!
0:00 - Intro
1:00 - Celtics preseason opener
3:00 - Impressive Tillman performance
5:00 - Deep center rotation
6:34 - Impressive performances
8:21 - Derrick White's aggression
11:03 - White's competitive edge
12:54 - Nuggets' three-point strategy
16:23 - Pritchard's preseason performance
19:07 - Springer and Walsh compete
22:43 - Baylor Scheierman's struggles
25:15 - Lonnie Walker's role
26:51 - Lonnie's tough climb
30:16 - Game's sloppy moments
31:53 - Jaden Springer's debut
33:40 - New challenge rule
36:03 - JD's alley-oop skills
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00:42I just had to go to a bathroom
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00:48What's up?
00:50We're back with another episode of
00:52Still Possible
00:54and they're back, the Celtics are
00:56after their preseason opener
00:58a 107-103 win
01:00against the Denver Nuggets
01:02there was a time there in the fourth quarter
01:04when I'm not sure anyone really knew the exact score
01:06maybe you guys on the court
01:08realized it was wrong on the scoreboard
01:10I thought the Nuggets
01:12went ahead, they didn't really
01:14go ahead, they actually pulled
01:16themselves within one, it was weird
01:18but that doesn't really matter
01:20because what really matters is how
01:22the Celtics played, the developments
01:24the Celtics showed
01:26and I thought
01:28even though they didn't play well
01:30it was still a promising start
01:32It definitely was
01:34and this is, we should say
01:36this is the free episode
01:38of Still Possible here, so you can catch this
01:40on the CONS YouTube
01:42and we're brought to you by PrizePix
01:44and GameTime, but yeah
01:46I guess
01:48to be honest Jay
01:50do you want to start with the starters?
01:52What are the order of operations you want to go through here?
01:54Let's go starters first
01:56because they played
01:58Al Horford sat out
02:00Joe Mazzuolo told reporters
02:02in Abu Dhabi that it was just
02:04managing him
02:06just rest
02:08Good. Which, yeah
02:10Two freezing games
02:12max for him. As small as possible
02:14He's already going to be doing too much with no Chris Dasporzingas
02:16for a while. Luke Cornett
02:18started with the normal four starters
02:20They played the entire fourth quarter
02:22Xavier Tillman subbed in for Luke Cornett
02:24at times, but it was just the starters
02:26early. They played most of the first half
02:30I think
02:32I was impressed by Tillman
02:34man
02:36I was
02:38He had off-season surgery
02:40on his knee
02:42and he talked about how it would swell up on him
02:44last season and how he didn't feel right
02:46He looked to me
02:48like he was more mobile
02:50He fired
02:52a three from above the break
02:54on his first touch and it didn't go in
02:56but he later made two
02:58corner threes, finished two for three
03:00I just liked the way
03:02he was moving. I think
03:04while Porzingis is out, he could be pretty
03:06important for the Celtics
03:08Yeah
03:10I think we never fully knew
03:12Even when they traded for him last year
03:14Jay, he sat out like three or four weeks
03:16because that knee was bothering him
03:18It was just an ongoing struggle
03:20the rest of the year
03:22It feels fine, then it blows up on him
03:24Whatever he got done
03:26we don't know if it's going to sustain
03:28but he looks like a different guy
03:30from a mobility standpoint
03:32A guy that's in his mid-20s again
03:34The Tillman of two or three years ago
03:36was a factor, was a pretty big factor
03:38for that Memphis team
03:40Saw some big minutes in those spots
03:42It's clear now that he's
03:44reserting himself
03:46in that center rotation
03:48behind Cornett out of the gate
03:50It wouldn't surprise me on nights when Al is out
03:52if Tillman is your closing center
03:54if he looks like this
03:56from a mobility standpoint
03:58Like I said, if the three is there
04:00and then defensively the versatility he can present
04:02for his size
04:04on the perimeter
04:06that's a big boon for this team
04:08potentially
04:10I don't trust that the three
04:12will stay
04:14He's always been a bad shooter
04:16throughout his career
04:18He was 9 for 29 for the Celtics
04:20after getting traded there mid-season
04:22Hit a huge one in the finals
04:24but that was it
04:26He was mostly an offensive zero
04:28for them, honestly
04:30Where it matters
04:32can he get to a point where he just
04:34hits enough that he's not a zero
04:36Can he be a little more mobile and finish a little better
04:38Because the defense
04:40even when he wasn't moving that well
04:42has always been great
04:44He had two steals a block today
04:46spent some time credibly guarding Nikola Jokic
04:48He could switch on the guards
04:50It's important
04:52for him to be able to
04:54play well enough offensively
04:56that his defense is allowed to
04:58carry him on the court
05:00I just thought
05:02he looked good
05:04Cornett did too
05:06They have a deep center rotation
05:08which is good because Porzingis
05:10has hurt a lot and Al is 38 years old
05:12but having
05:14Cornett and Tillman as your third
05:16and fourth bigs
05:18it's a luxury in today's NBA
05:20It really is
05:22and Cornett
05:2411 rebounds
05:26I think the only time where things got
05:28ugly for those
05:30guys to say is when Tillman
05:32we got the Mimi Tillman front line to start
05:34the second half
05:36Not sure that's when they'll
05:38play a lot during the regular season
05:40That's why you don't have to worry
05:42You wondered heading into this camp
05:44it's like okay
05:46is he going to push
05:48either of these guys for minutes
05:50and I think the way these things
05:52both played out from a rotation standpoint
05:54in this game and just what we saw
05:56on the floor, the answer is
05:58no. It's a nice guy to have at the end of the bench
06:00but Tillman
06:02and Cornett I think
06:04minimum deals
06:06always look like a bargain and then if they can
06:08give you this in 15-20
06:10minutes per night and more when
06:12called upon
06:14that's just going to be a really
06:16important part of sustaining this team for the long
06:18term and keeping Alan Porzingis
06:20ready to go for when this team needs the most
06:22I wouldn't totally count out
06:24Mimi from
06:26earning minutes at some point
06:28he does have
06:30he produces when he's on the court
06:32and he does have moments where you're like wow
06:34he does some pretty impressive stuff
06:36but I'm with you. Those two guys are just
06:38in Cornett and Tillman they're just
06:40totally dependable and Mimi
06:42is still
06:44from possession to possession
06:46exactly
06:48the start of the game was just so sloppy
06:50it was so preseason
06:52and it makes sense
06:54both teams had to fly
06:5612 hours or at least it was 12 hours
06:58from Boston to Abu Dhabi
07:00and
07:02the practice just started
07:04a week ago
07:06as jet lagged as jet lag could be
07:08it was the furthest away from Boston the Celtics
07:10have ever played. I imagine it was the furthest
07:12from Denver the Nuggets have ever played
07:14so
07:16we were always going to get sloppy basketball
07:18but at the start it was just like
07:20so ugly. Jalen Brown
07:22dribbled like straight into Jamal Murray
07:24and just got stripped
07:26Jason Tatum's first pocket
07:28pass was intercepted
07:30and went the other way
07:34it was just kind of an ugly start but I thought
07:36Derek White kind of snapped the Celtics
07:38out of it a little bit. He was just from the
07:40start just locked in
07:42there was a
07:44play in the
07:46halfway through the first quarter
07:48after he'd already made I think he'd already
07:50stripped Aaron Gordon but there was a play halfway
07:52through the first quarter where the Nuggets had
07:54numbers and he like rotated to
07:56one guy and then rotated to another
07:58and just like single handedly
08:00stopped the Nuggets from producing
08:02a good attempt on that possession
08:04I just thought
08:06and then he brought
08:08the Celtics back to life and I thought after that
08:10that first like five minute stretch
08:12they were much much sharper
08:14even though their starters
08:16didn't win their minutes
08:18Yeah Derek
08:20I liked how just aggressive
08:22he was too. Like he was
08:24when we saw a lot of this last year
08:26when the shots were there he was like alright I'm
08:28taking these
08:30but yeah for as sloppy as it was
08:32Could he reach another level?
08:34It's
08:36I think so right?
08:38Because he was so good last season
08:40but it was also his first season
08:42really
08:44where he was totally trusted
08:46with the Celtics at least where he was like totally
08:48trusted they were like
08:50the end of game minutes
08:52are yours, starting spot is yours
08:54point guard position is yours
08:56and then he went
08:58he's always been a guy who sort of
09:00one of his weaknesses
09:02sort of a strength too but one of his
09:04weaknesses is like he's willing to play
09:06a background role
09:08but then his confidence
09:10just boomed and then he goes
09:12plays well in the Olympics, wins a gold
09:14medal on the Olympic team
09:16I think
09:18that that stuff could catapult him
09:20to even another level
09:22That's a good point and then you look
09:24at the start of this season
09:26and it's like
09:28Porzingis is out
09:30Drew an hour older
09:32and so it's like hey Derek we need you to be
09:34the number three option
09:36and we need you to run with that a lot
09:38and even
09:40from an offensive standpoint
09:42now it's not like oh now you're finding your spots
09:44now it's like no you know you can do
09:46and you're going to get
09:48the open threes but we know you can attack
09:50we know you can set up guys
09:52and we trust you
09:54to do that with
09:56any guard out there in the Eastern
09:58Conference on top of what he can bring from a defensive standpoint
10:00so it is it's like
10:02we'll see like he could have
10:04the opportunities last year like there was all star
10:06buzz we talked about at parts
10:08of last year of like oh can Derek White do it
10:10but then ultimately it's like well no he's like
10:12you're not going to get the opportunities
10:14points wise to do that. I think this year he could
10:16actually have a legitimate shot because the
10:18those chances are going to be there for him now to put up
10:20between 50 to 20 points
10:22a night on a regular basis if he
10:24wants to. Yeah and obviously
10:26the opportunity won't be a ton different than
10:28it was last season although poor Zingas
10:30will probably miss will surely
10:32miss more games than he did a year ago
10:34but I just
10:36do think like for
10:38a guy like Derek White who really
10:40does like kind of take
10:42a backseat sometimes
10:44sometimes that's because he's willing to
10:46do it sometimes it's because the
10:48team put him in put the
10:50ball in somebody else's hands but like
10:52I really do think the confidence
10:54of playing for the Olympics
10:56coming off that year where he was just amazing
10:58from start to finish
11:00could could push him
11:02to another level. I just thought
11:04his compete level for
11:06a preseason game he was flying
11:08around like Michael Porter
11:10Junior when he was dribbling
11:12Derek White was just right there
11:14making sure that he couldn't even
11:16attempt a shot he forced to travel
11:18on one possession where like he
11:20just kept like he was just shadowed
11:22Michael Porter Junior and Mike Porter Junior
11:24tried like some up fakes Derek
11:26White was going nowhere just he
11:28traveled eventually just
11:30just screwed up
11:32I thought Derek White just
11:34brought it he really brought it and
11:36like for for
11:38the first preseason game
11:40for the defending champs game that doesn't
11:42matter in Abu Dhabi. I just thought
11:44I was really impressed by the
11:46the edge that he brought
11:48to the game and I will
11:50say Jay on like white obviously
11:52I don't know the entire both teams
11:54started I think like this was good effort for
11:56a preseason game. Yeah, like both these
11:58might have been they the fact they were playing each other
12:00or where they were but like
12:02this wasn't half-assing it and
12:04the fact that they all knew that they were going to just play
12:06the first half and we got to see a
12:08good like most of them played
12:1018 minutes which is a healthy chunk of time
12:12for a preseason game but they
12:14they you know the game
12:16didn't matter but we saw I think a lot more effort that
12:18we normally wouldn't in the preseason just
12:20based on the circumstances which is
12:22yeah the Celtic the sellers had some awesome
12:24defensive players Jalen's block
12:26of Kanchar was just
12:28a monster block. Yeah
12:30Drew
12:32Holiday
12:34like had some great moments against
12:36Aaron Gordon in the post
12:38Jokic is just so good
12:40like the flip
12:42shots he hits are just insane
12:44and I
12:46thought I was actually impressed by
12:48the Nuggets like
12:50they came into this season saying
12:52they wanted to shoot more threes and they couldn't
12:54nearly keep pace with the Celtic who shot
12:5635 in the first half 61 for the games
12:58they were just a record most in the game
13:00yeah most
13:02they've ever taken
13:04and but
13:06like Denver got them up too
13:08and I think that's really important for
13:10them because their three-point attempt
13:12rate was so far behind the
13:14other contenders and the other great
13:16offenses that it could
13:18be a huge thing for them especially if like
13:20Strother hits or
13:22like one of their
13:24other young guys hits like
13:26and starts to make a difference and Porter
13:28Junior starts getting up more threes and
13:30Hunter Tyson maybe who knows
13:32if he can play
13:34but he looked pretty good
13:36Russell Westbrook
13:38don't expect that to continue but
13:40I did
13:42I was impressed by just their
13:44willingness to let it fly
13:46especially Jokic didn't
13:48even take one but everybody else was just getting
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14:56yeah it seems
14:58and it is and still with them doing that
15:00they still almost took
15:0250% of what the C's took
15:04and so they're like catching up
15:06on that front and the C's were just at
15:08warp speed at that amount because
15:10we haven't
15:12gone to the bench yet
15:14but Peyton Pritchard
15:1613 field goal attempts
15:1812 threes. Just a preseason legend
15:20just eating it up
15:22eating it up up there
15:24preseason legend
15:26he came in and immediately took
15:28a three from like 29 feet
15:30a bunch of his
15:32shots were like from that deep obviously
15:34he just kind of does that
15:36that's his range. The one-two
15:38he took
15:40he created a lot of space with like his shoulder
15:42kind of did like a TJ McConnell drive
15:44and then airballed it
15:46like didn't even come close
15:48I kind of enjoyed that
15:50given that the rest of his game was just splashing
15:52threes
15:54I thought the bench, I wasn't surprised
15:56that the bench looked good
15:58based on
16:00the comments Al said
16:02about Pritchard sort of setting the tone
16:04for the Celtics in the
16:06in like
16:08practices before practices
16:10start so
16:12and we know he's just a gamer
16:14it doesn't matter to him that it's preseason
16:16if he's on the court he's going to be going warp speed
16:18and so
16:20he
16:22he's a preseason legend
16:24he was third on the team in scoring last year
16:26I think it was just Jalen and Jason
16:28and led the team
16:30in scoring during the preseason
16:32opener
16:34he did miss a heave though
16:36he missed a heave
16:38inexcusable
16:40totally inexcusable
16:42but he got the first
16:44half heave
16:46he got it
16:48it was a really really tough one
16:50he wasn't able to create a lot of separation on it
16:52they didn't really put him in a good spot
16:54but the heave
16:56he did hit one at the end of the first quarter though
16:58the long
17:00hold for one though so we'll give him credit
17:02for that one
17:04six assists for him too
17:06for all the shooting he is there
17:08you like the creation
17:10I feel like he was really pushing the ball
17:12we know that they want to play faster this year
17:14and it seemed like it was a track meet
17:16in that first half
17:18both sides were just grabbing it off
17:20rebound a lot of misses and then just going
17:22he was kind of front and center for a lot of that
17:24so still a sloppy
17:26three turnovers
17:28but you talk about Derek
17:30White's next level
17:32Payton Pritchard's next level is interesting to me too
17:34we know
17:36depending on if they want to go
17:38with some of these smaller lineup looks
17:40when Porzingis and Horford
17:42are out of games
17:44just going three guards with Pritchard
17:46at spots
17:48in a half might be
17:50an appealing option in
17:52crunch time situations but just a situation
17:54where he could be pushing
17:5620-25 minutes in those games
17:58because he's just the best player
18:00coming off the bench if he's outplaying Hauser
18:02at that point. One of the questions
18:04coming into the preseason was how
18:06the Celtics would sort of handle
18:08the O'Shea Brissett role
18:10which he sort of sees toward
18:12the end of the last year
18:14he was kind of the guy
18:16who played if they needed a perimeter guy
18:18behind
18:20Pritchard and Hauser
18:22and obviously
18:24he didn't stay in Boston
18:26still looking for a home
18:28but
18:30who fills that role
18:32tonight it was
18:34Jaden Springer and Jordan Walsh
18:36playing
18:38they started the second quarter
18:40they played with
18:42the regular rotation guys
18:44during the first half
18:46they clearly got the first crack
18:48at that sort of role
18:50we didn't see Baylor Shireman
18:52until much later
18:54in the fourth quarter we didn't see Lonnie Walker
18:56until basically mop up
18:58minutes with total end of the
19:00bench guys late in the fourth quarter
19:02so
19:04as far as we're aware all we've seen is
19:06just one preseason game
19:08Jaden Springer and Jordan Walsh
19:10are in pole position
19:12to compete for
19:14those spare minutes
19:16at the end of the rotation
19:18and I thought both were pretty good
19:20but also
19:22the shooting is
19:24going to be a problem
19:26maybe for both of them
19:28Walsh did hit two but I just thought
19:30they both hesitated
19:32they're both not natural shooters
19:34they both have a history of missing shots
19:36and
19:38so as
19:40impressed as I was with some
19:42of the stuff they did at the same time
19:44it was like
19:46yeah but that could be an issue
19:48yeah
19:50certainly with anything for Jordan Walsh
19:52after summer league is a win
19:54today and that's I think that was the
19:56going in I thought it would be
19:58Shireman and Jaden Springer
20:00kind of fighting for those minutes
20:02for him emerging already
20:04through the start of camp where he's
20:06in the spot with
20:08Baylor a lot of people thought they were to be in
20:10I think that's somewhat of a big deal
20:12because that means I think he's probably at a solid
20:14camp to this point where he is
20:16first in line to get a crack at these minutes in a
20:18preseason game but you're right it's like
20:20if he's out there if both of them are out there
20:22like spacing wise
20:24what defenses are going to do with those guys
20:26like even he took six attempts for Walsh
20:28but he probably turned down like six more
20:30like open looks over the course of the game
20:32corner to like
20:34you can't turn down a corner three in the NBA
20:36but he and Springer
20:38both did it and Springer did it like toward the
20:40end of the shot clock and ended
20:42up with a really poor
20:44opportunity after doing it
20:46sometimes just got to shoot it
20:48but Walsh defensively
20:50had three blocks
20:52and just
20:54I think he was very active on the
20:56offensive glass too so a good
20:58that's the kind of guy like you that's how
21:00you are playing your role
21:02with this team like he just needs to be like an energy
21:04wild card off the bench if he does get a chance like that
21:06and that's we saw a lot of that from him
21:08today and what do you have like 20
21:1025 minutes played the most out of everyone and
21:12it was by no means the perfect
21:14game and still has
21:16plenty of flaws but was certainly a step in the
21:18right direction for him and he has some good passes
21:20too there was one play
21:22where Springer actually
21:24started off the sequence he drove
21:26baseline drew help think
21:28Luke Cornette in the middle Cornette
21:30swung it to the corner where Jordan Walsh
21:32was he drove it
21:34fed it back to Cornette for
21:36an assist Cornette got
21:38the bucket and then
21:40there was another one that was really nice in the
21:42fourth quarter when some
21:44of the like
21:46lesser established guys were in there
21:48and Walsh drove to the
21:50paint turned around and found
21:52JD Davison behind him for
21:54for a three pointer
21:56and so you can sort of see
21:58the outline of Jordan Walsh
22:00where it's like
22:02he's probably going to be
22:04an impactful defender when he's on the court
22:06but if he could be that energy
22:08guy and then sort of be
22:10a connective piece with passing
22:12and a little bit of ball handling
22:14stuff like that then maybe
22:16it would work if he's in the Brissett
22:18role and or maybe you just
22:20use him in that role and he's not
22:22necessarily as impactful as Brissett
22:24last season but you
22:26put up with that because it's the
22:28growing pains of a really young kid
22:30who does have some
22:32significant potential
22:34for the most part I really like the way he played
22:36especially after summer league
22:38like you said it to see him
22:40even in the mix for
22:42a spot in the first half of the
22:44first preseason game
22:46that's promising
22:48I was surprised by that and him
22:50and Springer too wasn't necessarily
22:52surprised by Springer
22:54but
22:56yeah that's a good start
22:58for both of them I think
23:00probably in camp
23:02to earn that
23:04not a good start
23:06for Baylor Shireman
23:08not a good start for Baylor Shireman
23:10What was the low light Jay?
23:12Was it off the backboard
23:14first shot?
23:16Was it the air ball?
23:18Was it the pass that he
23:20fired at Nemi's head that went
23:22out of bounds when Nemi wasn't expecting
23:24it because why would Nemi be
23:26expecting to get the ball
23:28past him in that spot in transition
23:30yeah
23:32he did have a steal
23:34he did have nearly a
23:36charge taken
23:38he was called for a block instead
23:40I think there will be much
23:42better days for Baylor Shireman
23:44it's not the best sign
23:46that he didn't play until
23:48a few minutes left in the fourth quarter
23:50but we've never
23:52really seen I guess
23:54Joe with
23:56we've definitely never seen him with a first round
23:58pick but we haven't really seen him try to
24:00like
24:02bring a young
24:04guy like that along
24:06like
24:08they wouldn't do that
24:10they definitely didn't do that two years ago
24:12they didn't do it last year
24:14I guess Nemi played some if you want to count Nemi
24:16he was in his third season
24:18Baylor's in a totally different situation where he's a
24:20first round pick in his first year
24:22so we'll see
24:24how that process goes
24:26we'll see if and when he earns minutes
24:28he did not earn himself
24:30any more opportunities
24:32during preseason
24:34over it was so
24:36he got it up
24:38though he got it up
24:40got three up
24:42yeah I mean he was
24:44Drew Pearson was putting him to shame out there
24:46Drew Peterson had a really
24:48good fourth quarter he put the whole fourth quarter
24:50yeah that whole fourth quarter offense kind of centered
24:52around him and he was getting him up
24:54and looked good doing it
24:56again because another guy again coming off the summer
24:58league that he had more
25:00downs and ups in that stretch
25:02but yeah with Baylor
25:04and I don't know for all the
25:06for all the Lonnie Walker
25:08quote unquote buzz we have there in terms of like
25:10where he stands on this
25:12roster right now just coming in for the last
25:14four minutes of the game I think it
25:16kind of tells you of like
25:18I mean and I expect he's
25:20going to play there's going to whether it's
25:22Sunday or next week
25:24there's certainly going to be times where most
25:26slash all the starters are resting and
25:28he'll get his chances but
25:30um I still
25:32I think like as far as you're like oh
25:34could he Lonnie Walker play his way into the rotation
25:36or something like that I like he's
25:38he'll be surprised he plays his way into a
25:40a roster spot at least at the
25:42start of the season at this point it seems like based on
25:44where he's at here and
25:46because of the financial reality he's going to have
25:48to have a good camp a good preseason
25:50to
25:52put himself in the mix really to
25:54to earn a roster spot
25:56it would take like
25:5810 million dollars of luxury tax payments
26:00to keep him around
26:02it would take getting rid of the
26:04flexibility of having one
26:06open roster spot
26:08so he's kind of
26:10up against it
26:12and yeah
26:14it's kind of stunning that he took this deal
26:16knowing those obstacles are there but
26:18maybe he kind of sees it as
26:20like I'm gonna have
26:22to go to the G League anyway probably so like I
26:24want to do if a team that's good I don't know I guess we'll
26:26we'll find out how this plays out but
26:28it is like a it's a tough climb for him
26:30from that standpoint
26:32yeah there's not going to be a lot of opportunity
26:34for him
26:36and I mean he played
26:38with like the main guys
26:40the main Celtics guys
26:42and maybe that's how they envision him
26:44he said the other day
26:46when he spoke to us
26:48that he
26:50was told by Brad Stevens you could spend
26:52some time in the G League that he was told by Brad Stevens
26:54your spot isn't guaranteed
26:56like obviously he's on an Exhibit 10 contract
26:58by nature those aren't guaranteed
27:00but he knows
27:02like his job's in jeopardy
27:04and
27:06not promised and
27:08it certainly looked like that today like given
27:10how they used him
27:12or didn't use him at all
27:14during like any of the
27:16game when they were
27:18using their better players
27:20or their rotation guys
27:22or even like Baylor
27:24Shireman played the first seven
27:26minutes in change of the fourth quarter
27:28and then Lonnie Walker came in
27:30for him I believe and played the rest
27:32so he was playing with like
27:34just guys that nobody expects to do anything
27:36except go to Maine so
27:38not great start for Lonnie
27:40he might have a tough
27:42climb to
27:44solidify a spot or
27:46earn a spot I guess solidify isn't the
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29:16Um
29:18we can talk about the Tatum shooting
29:20probably for a reason
29:223 for 7. Right down the middle
29:24right down the middle
29:26we knew it was going to happen
29:28we knew it wasn't going to be like a
29:307 for 12 where everyone was like
29:32oh my god he's back
29:34and it wasn't going to be like a 1 for 9
29:36oh my god this guy is falling
29:38just a 3 for 7. He was aggressive hunting
29:40his shot though for sure
29:42I feel like he started the game
29:44looking for guys and then
29:46like you said then he got into looking for
29:48his own shot over the
29:50middle of that first quarter and yeah
29:52transition pull-ups
29:54um was
29:56kind of the only other
29:58rhythm offensively
30:00over the course of this game but
30:02I don't know it's kind of wow
30:0417 turners
30:06that feels like very low
30:08based on 23 for the nugget
30:10it was just a long sloppy
30:12game that
30:14but with
30:16some good effort levels so it was still entertaining
30:18if nothing else
30:20yep and obviously
30:22there was like it was
30:24going to be a super sloppy game
30:26in Abu Dhabi one week after starting
30:28practice if they had played it
30:30at a high level it would have been
30:32totally insane
30:34let's get to just kind of
30:36run through whatever notes we have left
30:38Luke Cornette
30:40tried like a 10 foot tip in
30:42and did
30:44not really come close
30:46I don't know what that was
30:48all about I think he was trying to tip it
30:50but he batted it at the rim from like
30:5210 feet away and it
30:54wasn't even close I don't know why he
30:56tried it it was ambitious he also
30:58had another tip in
31:00was sort of similar
31:02so that was like
31:04only fault I had in his
31:06game was just way too aggressive
31:08on tip ins
31:10Derek White had an
31:12awesome move to score past Jokic on
31:14the fast break like just
31:16just an awesome awesome move
31:18sort of hesitated
31:20went by him
31:22obviously Jokic isn't the best
31:24fast break defender
31:26but just a really really nice play
31:28it's not Celtics
31:30basketball until Drew Holiday
31:32does something totally
31:34indefensible and
31:36he pulled up for a three
31:38that hit the backboard crashed
31:40into the backboard and was
31:42just a wild Drew Holiday shot
31:44like those weird moments
31:46he has I missed it I love those
31:48it was awesome yeah I
31:50missed those too and I was very
31:52happy though not surprised that
31:54we were able to witness one in
31:56the first preseason game
31:58Springer came in and
32:00immediately played point guard
32:02I kind of liked his patience at times
32:04he
32:06there was one drive he didn't make the
32:08shot but he drove
32:10and the
32:12nuggets didn't really send a lot of help
32:14so he couldn't spray it to the perimeter and he
32:16just kind of patiently worked
32:18and muscled his guy and
32:20created like a little seven or eight footer
32:22that's the type of stuff that I think
32:24he can do that's the type of stuff that
32:26will
32:28help him sort of
32:30contribute offensively and so
32:32I liked what I saw
32:34from him from a patient standpoint from
32:36a passing standpoint
32:38the shot still has a long
32:40way to go but there's
32:42a lot to like with Jaden Springer he also like
32:44he got beat by Russell Westbrook a couple
32:46times but when he just moves
32:48his feet it's so hard to screen him
32:50he like stays attached to guys
32:52like there's literally no space between
32:54Jaden Springer and the guy who's guarding a lot of the time
32:56it's wildly impressive how
32:58how well he moves laterally
33:00and to combine it with the strength he does
33:02he has a chance to be such a
33:04great perimeter defender and that's probably
33:06why he's you know
33:08competing for minutes right now
33:10or seemingly competing for minutes right now
33:12yeah and he's so
33:14young from that standpoint
33:16even though this is his fourth year in the league coming up
33:18like it is the you can see the entry
33:20you can see why the they're willing to
33:22give up a decent second round pick for him last year
33:24and
33:26now this is clearly a huge
33:28season for him as he
33:30enters free agency
33:32this summer and then clearly the Celtics
33:34have a use for him if he can
33:36he's worthy of those minutes out of the gate
33:38more than his defense
33:40did you have anything else to
33:42in your notes?
33:44I love the
33:46they tested the new rule of the challenge
33:48at the end of the first quarter there
33:50yes they did they sure did
33:52Joe was pissed
33:54as it is it's like
33:56that was like the perfect tour sort of play
33:58to do that on but this is good
34:00that's A plus decision making by
34:02Matt Rounds and
34:04Joe there to go for that because it's like
34:06figure out what they're actually meaning by these
34:08type of calls like what and I guess
34:10I don't know what the defense was for that where it
34:12was clear that White got fouled but maybe they said he was turning
34:14to pass before he got fouled I don't know but that
34:16was fascinating to see that
34:18kind of go into motion
34:20yeah it looked on the replay
34:22like they didn't necessarily have
34:24great angles of White's arm getting
34:26hit while he passed I don't know
34:28that would be my guess for why it wasn't
34:30overturned but Joe was
34:32pissed he was like
34:34and Derek was pissed too
34:36especially at the initial call
34:38Derek just looked so surprised
34:40that there was no foul call
34:42and it was called out of bounds on him
34:46the only other thing I want to know
34:48is there was a
34:50hilarious sequence with Jordan Walsh
34:52where
34:54he missed a three hustled back
34:56and had a great great block at the other
34:58end like scampered back
35:00in transition to make a great block
35:02then caught it in transition
35:04and just bricked another three
35:08alright there's good there's bad
35:10he's still raw
35:12but I really did think
35:14that he played
35:16a pretty impressive game
35:18he did a lot of things well
35:20including
35:22he and Springer both had
35:24some big big offensive rebounds
35:26and
35:28they're the type of physical
35:30or I guess he's not
35:32super physical but
35:34gifted athletically wings
35:36that could help the Celtics
35:38on the glass with corner crashes
35:40if
35:42they're both in the rotation
35:44promising stuff there
35:46scrappy and athletic
35:48scrappy and athletic yeah
35:50that's a nice combination
35:52beyond that Jalen
35:54had that nice dunk
35:56oh yeah we didn't even know that
35:58before probably should have spoken
36:00about that it's kind of like run of the mill
36:02for him at this point but yeah
36:04that's certainly his highlight of the day
36:06and
36:08Drew's highlight obviously
36:1012 minutes for him they kept his the starters
36:12played bigger minutes for his staff like him
36:14them just keeping his minutes down
36:16because he's old and
36:18he played in the Olympics
36:20didn't get a lot of rest yeah
36:22um
36:24and then I thought JD had a pretty decent game
36:26like for
36:28the man can throw an alley
36:30you can throw an alley
36:32throw an alley
36:34like Terry Rozier
36:36should have called
36:38J.D. Davidson for pointers
36:40Terry was probably the worst
36:42alley-oop thrower
36:44I've ever seen for the Celtics especially for a guard
36:46who could throw some nice passes
36:48who just never worked but J.D.
36:50he's aggressive with it
36:52like to the point where sometimes it's
36:54totally insane but
36:56he throws he can really put
36:58it up there where only his guy can
37:00catch it sometimes
37:02are you in or out in Westbrook and Denver?
37:04I'm
37:06out definitely out
37:08I've been out on
37:10Russell Westbrook for a while now
37:12the one thing though that
37:14could work is
37:16he's a good cutter
37:18when he wants to be
37:20um
37:22and I think like
37:24if you can cut
37:26around Jokic
37:28that could work but
37:30they're trying to make more threes
37:32take more threes
37:34just seems like they're going in one direction
37:36he's going in another
37:38I don't know
37:40I'm not convinced
37:42he's going to be helpful but
37:44he's a legend
37:46legend
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