En un acto de valentía, una abuela se enfrenta a delincuentes armados que intentaban robar su auto en San Justo. La mujer, sin miedo, defiende a sus nietos con su cartera mientras los ladrones amenazan con armas. El incidente ha generado un debate sobre la seguridad y la autodefensa en situaciones de peligro.
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00:00We are going to share these images that happened in La Matanza, in San Justo, very close to the San Justo roundabout.
00:06Look.
00:08Again.
00:10The mistake of stopping at the door of your house.
00:12And where do you think they stop?
00:14How are you going to stop at the door of your house?
00:17Look at these criminals.
00:18Look at the grandmother defending herself.
00:20To the cartels.
00:22Against the criminals who went to steal the car.
00:25There were two minors, right?
00:29Two minors.
00:3010 and 17 years old.
00:32The grandmother defending her grandchildren.
00:34Put the grandmother again.
00:37Look.
00:38To the grandmother of the wallet.
00:39To the grandmother of justice.
00:40Look at the man telling her.
00:41Take it.
00:42She doesn't care about anything.
00:43At this point in her life.
00:44With everything she sacrificed.
00:45With weapons.
00:46To form a family.
00:47With weapons, the criminals.
00:48And the grandmother without fear.
00:49Look at her.
00:50To the clean wallets.
00:51Look at the Argentine shirt.
00:52The chorro.
00:53Look.
00:54Look how the son of a bitch kills his grandson.
00:55Look at him.
00:57And what is he going to do to the grandmother.
00:58Will he hit her?
00:59Of course.
01:00Is that if?
01:01You have a code, right?
01:02I don't know.
01:03I don't know.
01:04Some.
01:05He's going to hit him.
01:06Yes.
01:07Look.
01:08Watch how he hit him there, in front,
01:09with the ...
01:10And the boy there.
01:11In a red circle.
01:12And look at her daughter,
01:13how she is trying to take it away, right?
01:14You know what happens in the situation?
01:15The boy throws himself in the back seat.
01:18For fear.
01:19Of course.
01:20And the family shouting to him,
01:21get out of there.
01:22Carlitos, in San Justo, working with this case.
01:27A family that, as I was told, has other history with crime.
01:32And I'm going to say it, since Nahuel isn't here,
01:35free zone.
01:36No, no, free zone.
01:38Well, as Mez said, tariffed, rented.
01:40No, it's not a free zone.
01:42Rented zone, in honor of Nahuel, who didn't come today.
01:46Javi, Totu, come on.
01:48Hello, brother, how is the situation there?
01:50Tell us.
01:52And now, full sun, heat, 614 degrees,
01:56after today's rain at noon.
01:58But, but, the neighbors, as you can see,
02:01it's a house, it's an area of low houses.
02:05It's an area, as you said,
02:07very few meters from what would be the roundabout of San Justo.
02:11It's a block, this one.
02:13Actually, it's a street, this Indart.
02:15There are very few blocks.
02:17Look, there, in the background, where that truck comes from,
02:20is what would be the roundabout.
02:23And, let's see, it's a lot of mess,
02:26but it's a block and a half more,
02:28and it's cut off, Indart, it's cut off.
02:31Therefore, it's a block, or it's a street,
02:34that you can escape easily,
02:37you can go wherever you want,
02:40without maybe the police finding out
02:43that in this area an illegal act was committed.
02:46And this happened for the umpteenth time
02:49last Saturday, 72 hours ago.
02:52Eight thirty at night,
02:54a mother comes with her children,
02:56she comes to see her grandmother, she comes to see an uncle.
02:58They're all in the same block.
03:01Like the other victims, who are in the same block.
03:04There are many victims in this block, all around.
03:06Well, the truth is, it's unbelievable.
03:09They come to see their mother,
03:12they come to see their mother, the grandmother of the little ones,
03:15they come to see the uncle.
03:17They came because one of the kids, one of the little ones,
03:20had been given a diploma in martial arts.
03:23So they were smiling from ear to ear,
03:27of happiness, of...
03:29The truth is, they were very happy.
03:31And everything like that, everything very, very fast.
03:34Hey, mom, look, I'm coming to see you,
03:36but I left urgently, we showed you...
03:38And just those five seconds,
03:41instead of being five, were ten.
03:43We're talking about seconds, guys.
03:45When suddenly another car falls at high speed, a 2008,
03:48this happens here, where we are right now.
03:51Neighbors' cameras that show absolutely everything.
03:54We're not going to say that there are municipal cameras,
03:57because there aren't any,
03:59but there are neighbors' cameras that show everything,
04:02and everything you see.
04:04The grandmother, the grandmother,
04:06who keeps the cap of one of the kids.
04:09Let's hope the police took it
04:11to see if they can have any proof.
04:13I don't know, they saw it.
04:15There is the DNA of some hair,
04:17and you can know who the robbers are.
04:20While you tell, there is the video.
04:22Look at the grandmother.
04:24Look at the grandmother.
04:26The grandmother?
04:27But you know what?
04:28Yes, of course.
04:29It's the first thing you see,
04:30but when I see her for the third time, I think of something else.
04:33That boy must not be more than 20 years old.
04:36He will be twenty-something.
04:37He has a grandmother too.
04:38The one in the Argentine shirt.
04:40It could be his grandmother, right?
04:42And I imagine, I don't know,
04:44I mean, I imagine that at some point
04:46the worst will be seen,
04:48because you see almost an attitude of defending yourself,
04:51and he takes a step back, right?
04:53Yes.
04:54And if he had crossed...
04:56Look, look at the boy.
04:57He defends himself and doesn't...
04:58No, he doesn't do anything.
04:59As you are used to seeing him.
05:01He only defends himself, right?
05:02His grandmother showed up in front of him.
05:04It's his grandmother.
05:05No, and I also think...
05:06He saw his grandmother in that woman.
05:07And I also think...
05:08If he hadn't...
05:09Let's say the thing as they are,
05:10he would have hit him,
05:11he would have responded,
05:12he would have hit him in the ass.
05:14He didn't react.
05:15I think, Javi,
05:16in the bravery,
05:17and I say bravery is wrong,
05:19because we always say
05:20you have to give everything,
05:21you don't have to face thieves,
05:22but there is a feeling, you see,
05:25like, well, whatever it has to be, right?
05:27When you are with your grandchildren,
05:28with your children,
05:29and it is reflected in the action
05:31of this grandmother
05:32who doesn't hesitate for a second
05:34to hit him,
05:35not even to hurt him, right?
05:36It must be out of anger.
05:38No, no, no.
05:39To defend yourself, of course.
05:40Defend yourself as self-defense.
05:42It is something that still comes out innate.
05:44Totally impulsive.
05:45A self-defense that still comes out,
05:47which can be, in this case, the grandmother,
05:49it can be any of us
05:50who are living through a situation
05:53like the one this family was living.
05:56Do you know what happens?
05:57Yes, yes, yes.
06:00People are prepared, unfortunately,
06:03especially when two of your neighbors
06:05have already been robbed.
06:06You are already prepared.
06:07I was listening earlier to,
06:09I think it was Patricia,
06:10the mother of the two boys,
06:11the daughter of the grandmother
06:13who was the one who was driving,
06:15to say that they had a protocol,
06:17as all the neighbors
06:19must have,
06:20of many places, right?
06:23Of the Conurbano,
06:24also of the city of Buenos Aires,
06:25of all of Argentina, basically,
06:27to leave the car running.
06:29They no longer catch you unannounced.
06:31You are already waiting for them.
06:33And since you are waiting for them,
06:35you already have a way out of the situation.
06:39So she explained
06:41to leave the car running.
06:43If they come to you,
06:44you already have a prepared reaction.
06:47You are fed up, right?
06:48Because it has already happened to many of them
06:50more than once.
06:51So you know what it costs you
06:53when they take your wallet,
06:54make the claim to recover the card,
06:56the documents, they take you.
06:58Let's see, go ahead, Javi, go ahead.
07:00There it is.
07:01There it is.
07:02That's the 5-second protocol.
07:04This time it wasn't 5,
07:06maybe it was 10.
07:07It's more or less like that.
07:08Patricia, thank you for coming.
07:10Yes, yes.
07:11I was listening to you.
07:12You have a protocol
07:14and you have something in mind.
07:16I tell you,
07:17don't even bother thinking
07:19because you don't get anything
07:21out of what you have in mind.
07:23I had talked to the boys.
07:25The youngest one has his little chair.
07:27They have a seat belt,
07:29they are tied.
07:30I always thought,
07:31or when you see in the news
07:33that there is a woman
07:34holding the car,
07:36you can't at that moment.
07:39I think we all shouted the same thing.
07:42The boys, the boys, the boys,
07:44the boys, the boys.
07:46And everything you have in mind
07:48in that second is not in your head.
07:50Yes, the previous one.
07:51I had the car in first gear,
07:53in gear.
07:54So you had the foot on the clutch.
07:56And because it is seen in the video
07:57that my car shakes,
07:58when I got out,
07:59obviously I didn't start,
08:01I didn't put the dead point.
08:03At that moment I didn't realize
08:05that because of that,
08:06I couldn't start the car.
08:08And when I started it,
08:09they almost collided
08:10because it went forward
08:11because it was in first gear.
08:13Everything you plan...
08:15Patricia, I ask you
08:16because you saw it,
08:18you had them face to face,
08:19although logically
08:20it was a traumatic situation.
08:22Your youngest son
08:23was in the back seat,
08:24he had taken refuge.
08:25Obviously,
08:26a product of the terror
08:28that this situation produces
08:29to anyone,
08:30but above all to a minor.
08:32I tell you,
08:33it is not the first time
08:34that I have this feeling
08:35that the boys are...
08:38I don't know,
08:39they could have been
08:40one of your children.
08:42I don't see them
08:43looking like criminals.
08:45What do you think?
08:47I don't know my children,
08:48but my children are better.
08:50Yes, well,
08:51I say only because of the affection.
08:52Just when I went
08:53to make the complaint,
08:54he said to me,
08:55how old do you think he is?
08:57And if I compare it
08:58with my children,
09:00they were 50,
09:01the criminals,
09:02because my son is 15
09:04and he's great,
09:05my oldest son.
09:07But yes,
09:09if you think about it,
09:10yes,
09:11you think,
09:12he's either younger
09:13or he's 18.
09:14Those who were in hoods,
09:1620, 20 something,
09:18but they have a lot of cash.
09:23You realize there,
09:25except for the one
09:26in the Argentinean shirt,
09:27which is the one
09:28who was going to drive my car,
09:29he was...
09:30Your mother
09:31doesn't respond to the aggression,
09:32right?
09:33Your mother gives him
09:34the money and he stays.
09:35He doesn't respond
09:36and he goes back.
09:37He goes back.
09:38So he's used to
09:39being hit in the house,
09:40because...
09:41Sure.
09:42There you realize
09:43that he looked like a kid,
09:45a kid who was
09:47with four other armed guys
09:49who pointed at my mother,
09:51my brother,
09:52my children,
09:53me,
09:54and my other son
09:55in the head.
09:56So,
09:57I can't compare them
09:58to my children's ages.
09:59No, from now on.
10:00There's no comparison.
10:01From now on.
10:02But I don't know,
10:03I see them
10:04and I get that feeling.
10:05They're criminals,
10:06clearly.
10:07Yes, of course.
10:08But,
10:09new criminals,
10:10I don't know, Carlitos,
10:11do you understand the concept?
10:12Yes, yes, yes.
10:13They're like green
10:14who go out to steal.
10:15Sorry, guys,
10:16sorry.
10:17Almost as if it were a fashion,
10:18right?
10:19Maybe,
10:20maybe one stays
10:21with the image
10:22of the Argentine shirt,
10:23but the others
10:24pointing with the revolver,
10:25with the gun,
10:26with the firearm
10:27at that moment,
10:28pointing at the height
10:29of the head,
10:30like what you see
10:31in the video,
10:32to those,
10:33I don't know,
10:34to the Argentine shirt,
10:35you can think
10:36that way,
10:37but to the others
10:38who act with violence
10:39and with feat
10:40and hooded,
10:41it's something else.
10:42Hooded,
10:43there were two with a beard,
10:44no,
10:45they weren't kids,
10:46they had something
10:47to hide.
10:48Sure,
10:49sure,
10:50sure,
10:51sure.
10:52Patricia,
10:53how are you?
10:54And now?
10:55Oh, sorry, Javi,
10:56Lucia greets you.
10:57How are you, Lucia?
10:58Good.
10:59I ask you a little,
11:00now I calculate
11:01that we continue
11:02with the story
11:03of the events
11:04that we were just seeing
11:05by the images
11:06of the security cameras,
11:07but I ask you
11:08how it affects
11:09their lives
11:10to live this way.
11:11I say,
11:12they go shopping
11:13and leave their cell phone,
11:14they do not park
11:15or do not enter
11:16the car in their houses,
11:17they have a neighborhood network,
11:18what changes
11:19or what habits,
11:20habits,
11:21did they modify
11:22to be able to live
11:23and perhaps feel
11:24safer?
11:25Here,
11:26all the neighbors
11:27modified something.
11:28Everyone goes out
11:29to buy
11:30without the cell phone,
11:31at this time
11:32they can tell you
11:33about your colleagues,
11:34there is no one
11:35on the street,
11:36if there are guys
11:37who go to the gym,
11:38we have to accompany them,
11:39we have to look for them,
11:40people,
11:41if they come
11:42late at night,
11:43they leave the car
11:44on the street,
11:45what else
11:46can be modified?
11:47You modified everything,
11:48the windows,
11:49you only see bars,
11:50you have everyone
11:51who made their house,
11:52which are houses
11:53from years ago,
11:54who have already put
11:55a fence in front
11:56of the door,
11:57a higher fence,
11:58in this neighborhood
11:59everything is like this,
12:00all life
12:01modified you,
12:02that's why I was not there,
12:03the boys had everything,
12:04the polarized windows,
12:05the car in first gear,
12:06he greeted him
12:07through the window
12:08and that's it,
12:09you find someone
12:10and you do not greet him.
12:11How many times
12:12do you have to
12:13say
12:14hello to
12:15someone
12:16to greet them?
12:17An empty neighborhood
12:18in broad daylight,
12:19because we were not
12:20talking at two in the morning,
12:21it is almost
12:22four in the afternoon,
12:23there is no one
12:24in the street.
12:25No, no,
12:26all the time,
12:27everyone is afraid.
12:28And when you go to Patricia,
12:29you just told me
12:30that they went
12:31to the police station,
12:32what do they tell you?
12:33Do you agree
12:34with the answers
12:35they give you?
12:36Do they blame you
12:37for the lack?
12:38I imagine
12:39at least
12:40half an hour ago
12:41we were there
12:42and we have not seen
12:43any patrol car
12:44passing by,
12:45but at least
12:46we have found
12:47three episodes
12:48of violence
12:49in the last week.
12:50The truth is
12:51that I did not ask
12:52anything
12:53and they did not
12:54tell me anything,
12:55they did not give me
12:56any explanation,
12:57they did not tell me
12:58anything,
12:59if they find the car
13:00they will call me
13:01and that's
13:02the only thing
13:03I know.
13:04The police
13:05are not seen,
13:06today there were
13:07a lot of journalists
13:08from a lot of media
13:09and no one
13:10saw the police here.
13:11Before they went
13:12to the photo
13:13at least, right?
13:14Not even that?
13:15No, neither.
13:16They did not even
13:17come out
13:18on TV.
13:19But the truth
13:20is that I do not ...
13:21One is used
13:22to not asking
13:23anything,
13:24to say
13:25I hope my car
13:26appears,
13:27I hope they stop them,
13:28they put them in jail,
13:29I hope they don't
13:30come out,
13:31we can't know
13:32what ...
13:33And the truth
13:34is that,
13:35they did not
13:36give me any
13:37explanation,
13:38I did not ask
13:39for explanations either.
13:40Patricia,
13:41well ...
13:42The fear
13:43is so high,
13:44such a level
13:45of fear,
13:46so strong
13:47that ...
13:48I still do not fall
13:49that I do not have a car.
13:50Poor.
13:51I rescue,
13:52I rescue
13:53that you have not
13:54lost your smile,
13:55Patricia.
13:56Yes,
13:57kindness too.
13:58Of the nerves
13:59the same, huh?
14:00Yes, yes.
14:01Do you know what
14:02is noticed,
14:03Patricia?
14:04No, no,
14:05of the nerves
14:06because you are
14:07telling the same
14:08all the time
14:09and all the time
14:10thinking,
14:11and all the time
14:12saying,
14:13I did not know
14:14what it felt
14:15when they stole you
14:16and what am I teaching
14:17you?
14:18That at 10 years old
14:19you already know
14:20that fear?
14:21At 10 years old
14:22you know the terror
14:23that it feels
14:24that a person
14:25points you
14:26with a gun?
14:27There is no need.
14:28Poor.
14:29That's the lesson
14:30the state gives us,
14:31right?
14:32That I would have
14:33to educate the kids,
14:34look.
14:35This is,
14:36it's terrible.
14:37And well,
14:38how do you want
14:39not to sow a future
14:40if you give
14:41up everything
14:42and the police
14:43are not there?
14:44When you were a kid
14:45maybe you wanted
14:46to be a policeman,
14:47right?
14:48It was like
14:49an ideal.
14:50They no longer have
14:51power,
14:52they do not have
14:53oil,
14:54they do not guard,
14:55they do not even
14:56go to the photo.
14:57We are in the hands
14:58of no one,
14:59right?
15:00And surely,
15:01Patricia,
15:02unfortunately,
15:03tomorrow we will
15:04be talking
15:05about another
15:06family like yours
15:07that has to
15:08face this.
15:09We are seeing
15:10that you put
15:11the communitarian
15:12alarm,
15:13you fence,
15:14you left the car
15:15on the street,
15:16you left it
15:17on the road.
15:18It is already there,
15:19it is like
15:20a sign that
15:21at some point
15:22will happen to you
15:23and if they don't
15:24hit you one shot
15:25more or less
15:26that you have to
15:27say thank you
15:28if they only
15:29rob you.
15:30Well,
15:31that's right.
15:32The truth that, yes.
15:33Well,
15:34Patricia,
15:35I send you a
15:36big hug,
15:37to send another
15:38hug to your family
15:39Gracias