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00:00Did you hear, Marcelito, about the writing of the scan?
00:05Yes, the truth is that I did not understand much of what is against her in Turullan.
00:12Yes, Alberti, I read what you said in that video today.
00:19But hey, the eye that one has already used, I read, I think, 11, 27 of 11 today.
00:30But I don't know either what cause they want to notify me of.
00:34The truth is that from here, from the Federal Bureau, there is no initial cause.
00:41Ah, what do you mean? Stop.
00:42Hello?
00:43Of course, as a witness.
00:44Well, no, but you are saying that it is not because of the Federal Bureau, from there.
00:49The notification is that everyone says that they cannot notify her.
00:52It does not correspond to the LOAN cause.
00:55As far as I know, no, nothing was deduced in the cause.
00:59There is no solution, except that in practice, a separate cause has been initiated.
01:06But if it is for the purpose of title, as you said, surely a separate cause.
01:12Ah, a connection cause, the LOAN one.
01:15Yes, but not another cause.
01:17An expert on the LOAN cause.
01:20She came here as a witness and was called at the time when the Federal Justice was not even there yet.
01:29And the search for a lost child was stopped.
01:33But if I remember correctly, from what the SCANO said, they cited General Rodriguez, could it be?
01:38Yes, yes, sure.
01:41I ask for the citation of the SCANO.
01:44I mean, I ask for it because she was in all the media announcing that she had worked, that she had made measurements.
01:51Well, to the effect of announcing what she had done, I asked for the citation and she was cited.
01:57And as a result of that, her link arose through Maciel and later, very daily, the link with Commissioner Rodriguez.
02:07Does she come to confess that she has a kind of relationship or is it Rodriguez?
02:12The one who says, yes, indeed, there is a private relationship between the two, he does not say sentimental or much less.
02:17How do you like the show, huh? It's amazing.
02:20No, but it draws attention.
02:23The truth is that I did not pay attention to that part.
02:26But regardless of whether or not it exists, it is a foreign subject.
02:31Anyone has the right to have the private relationship they want with whoever they want.
02:34But hey, the truth is that I can't tell you about that.
02:38Yes, now what I say is to explain in what character and by what means it ends.
02:44Because let's suppose that General Rodriguez had her as a boyfriend with the expert SCANO.
02:50Well, that can explain why he calls her, but he didn't have the power to call her.
02:55The relationship that is proven, because it accompanied our request, was kidnapped.
03:01In fact, he was ordered to present the cell phone and he had no problem.
03:06If he said no, the kidnapping was ordered.
03:09And there the fluid communication with Commissioner Rodriguez, the Commissioner General, is contacted.
03:19Which is later confirmed by him in his statement, right?
03:22Cabalnavuel doesn't like me getting into this kind of stuff.
03:25No, I think that, let's see, the private life of people is private.
03:28Yes.
03:30If that couple participates, let's say that it is an illicit couple,
03:36that they are questioned by the illicit, not by the couple.
03:39Sure, well, I give them relevance because in the middle there is a minor missing, right?
03:43No, the minor missing, I think that neither SCANO nor Rodriguez were taken to Lohan.
03:50I am convinced of that.
03:52Yes, they may have had some kind of participation, cover-up or help or hinder.
03:55Call me whatever you want, we can discuss it.
04:00Yes, of course.
04:02In fact, a long time ago, a long time ago, I am the one who said on this floor,
04:07don't lose sight of Mr. R.
04:10Mr. R was none other than General Rodriguez.
04:15The one we see in the picture.
04:17The one you see in the picture.
04:18What I want to get into in depth, Marcelo, is what happened with his statement,
04:25with the other policemen, with the female.
04:28What came out of all those statements?
04:32Well, in conclusion, Rodriguez, as head of the complex crime division,
04:39he assumed total responsibility, leaving the window open, so to speak,
04:45that if there was a mistake, something that went wrong, he was responsible
04:50because he was the boss and assumed all the responsibility.
04:54Which, obviously, in the administrative sphere is like that.
04:58Now, if it is proven that in that activity there is also an illicit,
05:05there each one will have to answer for what he did and,
05:08fortunately, it will be seen.
05:10At the moment, what is proven is that it was not respected properly
05:17according to the protocols that exist.
05:20It is not that they do not exist.
05:22There are protocols for the safeguarding of evidence and the chain of custody.
05:28They are in the resolutions of the provincial justice and also of the national.
05:34There is a whole protocol that is very precise and here they did what they did.
05:39Yes, it's okay, but what strikes me powerfully is the tension.
05:43Okay, maybe this trial does not do it, but at least, at least,
05:50police officers have been arrested.
05:52When you, it occurs to you in front of a federal judge to say,
05:55well, for involuntary error, perhaps this test has been erased.
05:59First you are thrown out of the force.
06:01You have no chance that the internal matter does not lower the direct exoneration.
06:05It is obvious and known that this happens.
06:07In this case it does not happen.
06:09Second.
06:11I think, I think, sorry, Nahuel, cut you.
06:14I think the chief of police should take note of this
06:18and he must have already initiated a summary.
06:20But you, Hanson, do you think the chief of police does not speak every day
06:25with a general director?
06:27Because he, being the general of complex crime, is a general director.
06:32That is, the general director has a direct line every day
06:37in more complex crimes with the chief of police.
06:40Calculate that the two are generals.
06:42They know each other.
06:44It's not that, uh, I met him today, a few days ago.
06:48No, no, the general follows.
06:50Because he knows the chief.
06:52If not, he does not follow.
06:54It's that easy.
06:56Yes, the same, the same, the same.
06:58This man has been in the police for 30 years.
07:02He has gone through several police chiefs,
07:04for several governments, for several governors.
07:07That is, he has been in that place for many years.
07:10And because he must be good, good.
07:14He must be good, good.
07:16Or he must know many secrets.
07:18That also has its price, right?
07:20When they tell me like that,
07:22one who more or less knows the security forces,
07:24he says, no, he has been in the same place for 30 years.
07:27Well, he must be good.
07:29Good waist.
07:31Because it is not that you are talking, 30 years ago you were in social services.
07:34It is a complex crime.
07:36If you tell me, hey, I have my general director for 30 years in drug trafficking,
07:40the dangerous drug delegation.
07:42And look, if he is 30 years old, because ...
07:45Why?
07:47Because it is functional.
07:49He has good credit in the bank.
07:51It is well seen.
07:53In the bank of favors.
07:55It is well seen, it is well seen in that area of the institution.
07:57There the question goes the other way.
07:59I tell you, it's fine, it's very well seen in drug trafficking.
08:01Did the issue of the crime of the 23-7-37 go down?
08:04No, not at all.
08:06The law of stupefying.
08:08The law of stupefying.
08:10No, not at all.
08:12Well, then it was not so good or it was functional, look.
08:14Well.
08:16Because the problem did not go away.
08:18Well, Marcelo, specifically,
08:20what did they delete from Pérez's phone?
08:23Or if they actually deleted the phone?
08:26That is what we are not going to know,
08:28because there is no data.
08:29On the phone.
08:31From June 12 to June 24.
08:36Ah, well.
08:38The 12th, a day before.
08:40The 12th, a day before the disappearance.
08:42A day before.
08:44I did not think they would dare so much.
08:46The phone is deleted.
08:48Deleted, complete.
08:50No, that is subject to examination.
08:52There is a date now for the last examinations,
08:55on December 27.
08:56Ah, well.
08:58With sweet bread.
09:00And the only thing they have declared at the moment,
09:03and I can not extend more,
09:05because there are two that still need to be declared
09:07of that division on Monday.
09:09But yes,
09:11that the phone was copied
09:13in a system that has
09:15the complex crime division
09:17while he was there.
09:19And it is what the federal detected,
09:21the ignition, I think,
09:23of the phone,
09:24while he was kidnapped.
09:26Ah, but the copy is there.
09:28The copy has it of complex crimes.
09:30And it should be there.
09:32Now I would ask the judge
09:34to order,
09:36to order to extract from that system
09:38the copy that was precisely made.
09:40Yes, if you want,
09:42it is not so difficult, Marce.
09:44What you do is mirror his cell phone.
09:46That is,
09:48I know that Nahuel communicates
09:50every day with Diego and Lucia,
09:51and with Estriones.
09:53They will go through the phones
09:55of the three of them.
09:57Those who do not appear in mine
09:59will have a mirror of them.
10:01That is, if you want to look,
10:03look and find.
10:05With whom did you communicate?
10:07What did I write to you?
10:09I erase everything I wrote with you.
10:11Jump if they grab your cell phone.
10:13Yes, other computer measures
10:15have been requested,
10:17which is typical,
10:19that is, a duplicate is requested
10:21from the card
10:23without the company
10:25so that it is put
10:27in a device of the same characteristics,
10:29what can be seen in the cloud is extracted.
10:31When will all this
10:33computer expertise be exhausted?
10:35This intercrossing of messages,
10:37of calls.
10:39When will it be?
10:41Let's say that one can say
10:43that the test measures were exhausted.
10:45Now we are going to conclude
10:47what happened with Logan.
10:49That's why I told you
10:51that this date has expired
10:53with which we are going to leave.
10:55Marcelo, thank you very much.
10:57We are in contact.
10:59No, please.