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00:00And who has been facilitating till now?
00:02Then tell me, is Ali Bin Gandapur a trickster?
00:06That he comes, does his work and leaves?
00:08You tell me that in Pakistan, in the last 77 years,
00:14there has been a protest against the police and against the civilian set-up.
00:18But has anyone ever organized a protest like this?
00:24And what I say is that Imran Khan has brought it to this place.
00:28If he hadn't done it on 9th, 10th May,
00:30then I can tell you with confidence, Mr. Kashyap,
00:33that the establishment's policy had changed,
00:37or they had become so weak,
00:39that it had become necessary to believe in the validity of the law,
00:45or it had become their compulsion.
00:47But the 9th, 10th May that they did,
00:49because of that, they were again...
00:52Sir, but if you have, if because of this...
00:57Sir, wait a second, let me finish.
00:59If 9th, 10th, 9th May, 10th May,
01:02the people who did this...
01:04Sir, listen to me, on this basis...
01:08Wait a second, sir, listen to the argument, sir,
01:10give him an answer.
01:11No, man, not like this.
01:13What are you doing?
01:13Okay, you finish first.
01:14I want to see where you go with this argument.
01:16My argument is done.
01:18I am talking to you right now for the Law of Non-Muslim League.
01:26I am not talking about myself.
01:30I am trying to say that the situation today,
01:35because you have raised such an issue, Mr. Abbasi,
01:39that you take the answer of a sad Pakistani.
01:44I say that if it wasn't for 9th, 10th May,
01:47my brother, I am not accusing anyone,
01:50I am not saying that they should keep beating on 9th, 10th May.
01:53I am saying that because of that,
01:56or because of his umbrella,
01:59they have started using force again.
02:01What is happening now?
02:03Tell me,
02:04may Allah give Nawaz Sharif a healthy life,
02:07a time will come when everyone will know.
02:09Be it Nawaz Sharif or Imran Khan,
02:13or Zardari,
02:15or Maulana Fazlur Rahman or Achakzai,
02:19tell me, will there be a conflict of leadership after them or not?
02:24Sir, listen to me.
02:26We have finished the nursery.
02:28Listen to me, sir.
02:29They are very thoughtful when it comes to leadership.
02:32Because what is leadership?
02:34Leadership doesn't make deals.
02:35Leadership doesn't go on the wrong path.
02:38Leadership doesn't say that I will finish my opponent.
02:42They don't say that there will be no action in this country on 9th.
02:46They don't say that even if I lose the election,
02:49I will go and take up the form of 47.
02:52These are not leaderships, sir.
02:53I am very sorry to say this,
02:56but you should also be a little careful.
02:58But your second argument.
03:00You...
03:01One second, please.
03:04Take Mr. Zubair's argument as well and then answer it together.
03:08First take my argument and then Mr. Javed Latif can continue.
03:11He says with certainty that
03:13if there was no 9th of May, which was very bad,
03:17there wouldn't have been so much strictness.
03:19But if you could give me an answer to just three things.
03:23First, when more than 100 members of PTI resigned,
03:28you kept more than 100 seats of the National Assembly vacant for 16 months.
03:34This was a constitutional violation and a very serious constitutional violation.
03:38Because you were afraid that you would have won Imran Khan in 10 elections.
03:42Secondly, if you had to hold the election of the Punjab Assembly
03:47under the constitution before 9th of May,
03:49you stopped it.
03:52You stopped the mandate of the people of Punjab.
03:55You stopped the mandate of the people of KP.
03:57You tell me that elections were to be held in the middle of April in Punjab.
04:01Because Imran Khan had broken the assembly in the middle of January.
04:04Whatever was his thought process.
04:06Because you accepted the dissolution of his assembly.
04:11You appointed your governor.
04:12You appointed Mohsin Naqvi as the Chief Minister.
04:16You accepted the dissolution.
04:18Not a single member of your assembly went to the Lahore High Court to challenge you.
04:25You didn't even hold an election.
04:27You got a resolution passed from the assembly that we can't release 23 million rupees.
04:32The rules were put in the basket.
04:35But I want to say something about 9th of May.
04:38Mr. Mian's point is absolutely right.
04:39You can't move forward without being punished.
04:44These things are not acceptable.
04:46Entering someone's house, entering a building, breaking things,
04:50or doing such things are not acceptable.
04:52But sir, let's move forward.
04:54Let's file cases.
04:55Let's punish where we have to.
04:57And let's move forward.
04:58It's not possible.
05:00It's not possible to stop everything because it happened in 9th of May.
05:04You entered the Supreme Court.
05:06You shouldn't be allowed to do politics.
05:08You shouldn't be allowed to enter the Supreme Court again.
05:12No.
05:12Those who did it, they were punished.
05:14The rest of the system moves forward.
05:16Countries don't stop.
05:18Politics doesn't stop because of this.
05:21Punish and move forward.
05:22Mr. Mian.
05:23Kashif, my brother, my brother, my brother,
05:26with a little patience,
05:28you talk about 9th and 10th of May, right?
05:31Tell me, in any part of the world where there is a democracy,
05:36if a state province attacks its loyalty with government resources,
05:43and it happens again and again,
05:45and this Ali Mian, Gandapur is not empty.
05:48Before this, two ministers, Praveen Khattak and the other,
05:52who were the ministers of 2018,
05:56did all three of them not attack Imran Khan's loyalty?
06:02And then allow me to tell you
06:06that you say 9th and 10th of May didn't happen.
06:09What happened on 26th November?
06:11Who said that, sir?
06:12You tell me this.
06:139th and 10th of May didn't happen.
06:14By the way, one second.
06:15What?
06:15Who said that 9th and 10th of May didn't happen?
06:19No, no, you are saying that 9th and 10th of May should move forward.
06:24No, no, no, no, no.
06:24I am saying that...
06:25Absolutely punish them.
06:26Absolutely don't move forward.
06:27Punish them.
06:28One second.
06:29No one said that they should move forward.
06:30But, friend, Mr. Kashif, who has to punish them?
06:34Kashif Abbasi has to punish them,
06:36or Shabaz Sharif has to punish them,
06:39or the punishment authorities have to punish them.
06:40And tell me, didn't anything happen?
06:43And when an incident has happened,
06:46then where are the punishment authorities,
06:47the investigation authorities?
06:50And then who has been providing facilities till date?
06:53Then tell me, is Ali Bin Gandapur a cheat,
06:56that he comes, does his work and leaves?
06:59Tell me, sir.
07:00The problem is that I have to take a break.
07:02And then...
07:03One second.
07:04Kashif, one second.
07:05Finish it quickly, sir.
07:06Let me finish first.
07:07Finish it, sir.
07:08I'll be back in 10 seconds.
07:09Tell me, this is amazing.
07:12No one is ready to tell.
07:15I am a Pakistani.
07:17I have to live here, I have to die here.
07:19My future generation will live here.
07:22Is anyone ready to tell what international pressure is for?
07:25Tell me, sir.
07:26Is anyone ready to tell?
07:27Listen to me, Mr. Mian,
07:28the answers to the questions that you are ready to give to the government,
07:31who are you sitting in the government and asking these questions to?
07:34You have to answer this.
07:35One.
07:36Second, I have to take a break.
07:37I have to take a break, Mr. Mian.
07:38Let me make one argument.
07:39When you say that Ali Amin comes and uses government resources,
07:43sir, let him protest.
07:46Punjab should be in its own Punjab.
07:48He comes because he says that you don't let anyone come from here.
07:51Let him protest.
07:53Where he breaks the law and the constitution...
07:55What kind of protest is this, brother?
07:57Let's take a break and come back after the break.