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00:00Tonight's guest of Talkin's is...
00:05I don't have a desire to get married.
00:08You don't? Really?
00:11No, I really don't.
00:13He's 49 years old and specializes in tutorials.
00:18Why don't you have a desire to get married?
00:22I'm too serious about getting married.
00:25A lot of people say,
00:27I'm getting married, so I have to get married properly.
00:30I think that's an act.
00:33He's too serious about getting married.
00:36He's afraid of getting married.
00:40But he tries to pursue it further.
00:44I want to play a little more.
00:47That's it.
00:49That's it.
00:51I'm afraid of responsibility.
00:53I want to get away from it.
00:56Stop it!
01:01He's not afraid of getting married.
01:04He's afraid of responsibility.
01:08I want to get married properly.
01:12You don't want to cheat on your wife?
01:14I don't want to cheat on my wife.
01:16I knew it.
01:18I knew it.
01:20I think she's watching me.
01:23You have a lot of wrinkles.
01:25Wrinkles?
01:27You have a lot of wrinkles.
01:29I have a lot of wrinkles.
01:33Today's guest is Tokui.
01:36Nice to meet you.
01:38I'm glad to see you.
01:40I'm glad to see you.
01:41Sashiko, you are Tokui's teacher.
01:44I'm not his teacher.
01:45We've been together for a long time.
01:47We've been together for a long time.
01:49I'm so happy to see you.
01:51I'm so happy to see you.
01:53I can't see you from here.
01:55I can't see you from here.
01:58Tokui is 49 years old.
02:02He is one of the most famous celebrities in Japan.
02:07He is one of the most famous celebrities in Japan.
02:13I interviewed Tokui.
02:17He is afraid of marriage.
02:23You will be 50 years old next year.
02:26Do you want to get married?
02:29I don't want to get married.
02:33You don't want to get married?
02:34I don't want to get married.
02:36What do you want to do?
02:40I want to form a family.
02:44I want to form a family.
02:47I want to form a family.
02:49I want to form a family.
02:52Don't you have impatience?
02:56I have impatience.
02:59Do you have impatience?
03:01I don't want to get married.
03:06But marriage is not like that.
03:09I see.
03:11People who want to get married are going to get married when they get married.
03:17It's a short-lived relationship.
03:20They get married when they want to get married.
03:26Let's start now.
03:28Let's jump in.
03:31We need to work together.
03:33We need to find a way.
03:35We need to do our best.
03:37That's what I want.
03:39I don't think so.
03:41You're too calm.
03:43I think love is very important.
03:47But marriage is life.
03:49If you say something like this,
03:51I think you'll get scolded.
03:53No one will care about you
03:55even if you go home late at night.
03:57I know.
03:59Even if I get married,
04:01I'll come home late at night.
04:03I won't say anything.
04:05I won't say anything.
04:07What about the time
04:09when you have to take care of your children?
04:11I'll be in trouble if I don't come home.
04:13That's right.
04:15But basically,
04:17there are many people who say it's okay.
04:19If you marry someone like that,
04:21I don't think it's a problem at all.
04:23I don't think this life will be broken.
04:25You met someone like that.
04:27I'm not convinced at all.
04:29I'm not convinced at all.
04:31It's not that scary.
04:33I think that's the point.
04:35If you have 24 hours,
04:37it's your time.
04:39That's right.
04:41I don't want to say
04:43that I have 24 hours
04:45when I'm married and have children.
04:47I don't want to say
04:49that I have 24 hours
04:51when I'm married and have children.
04:53I don't want to say
04:55that it's a problem at all.
04:57Everyone is too serious
04:59about marriage.
05:01I think there are people
05:03who are too serious
05:05unnecessaryly.
05:07They don't do it properly.
05:09They say,
05:11you have to do it properly
05:13if you want to get married.
05:15They say,
05:17you have to do it properly
05:19if you want to get married.
05:21She is a woman like this.
05:23So far, it doesn't seem that he has no desire to get married at all.
05:29But when I go out with someone, I tend to go out with only good people, even if I get married.
05:39But if you don't, it doesn't mean that you don't want to get married, right?
05:41That's right.
05:43That's right.
05:45That was quick.
05:47Have you ever been blamed?
05:49Blamed?
05:50For wanting to get married?
05:51Yes, I have.
05:54When I was in my late 20s, there was a time when I wanted to get married.
06:02At that time, I wanted to get married, so I broke up with my girlfriend.
06:08But the next person I went out with, I got married right away.
06:12That's definitely a rule.
06:14That's right.
06:17Do you live with your girlfriend when you go out with her?
06:20That's right.
06:22If you get married, you can live together.
06:24It's totally possible.
06:26You can!
06:27I don't live with her every time.
06:29If my girlfriend wants to live with me, we go out together.
06:32That's surprisingly possible.
06:34You don't have to live with her.
06:36It's not like I can't live with someone.
06:38What's the difference between marriage and living together?
06:40If you live with me, you can live with me for 24 hours.
06:45But you can't live with me for a long time.
06:47I understand.
06:49If I get married and have kids, I don't want to say that 24 hours are mine.
06:55So it's a little different from that.
06:58When I go home and leave my bag in a mess, I don't have to apologize to anyone, right?
07:06You don't have to say, I'm sorry, I'm noisy.
07:09Why do I have to apologize first?
07:12What? Aren't you on this side?
07:16You're on this side.
07:19I know you're on this side.
07:22I want a little freedom.
07:25I want a little freedom.
07:28I want to hug you like this.
07:30I'll say I'll forgive you, but if you do that every day, won't you get angry?
07:36You'll get angry, right?
07:37I'll get angry every day.
07:40I'll get angry every day.
07:42No, no, no. You two don't have to do it every day.
07:45You do it, but there are days when it overlaps.
07:47Two days in a row?
07:48Two days in a row, three days in a row.
07:50If you tell me in advance.
07:52But I think it's another day.
07:54I have to cover it for that.
07:56Why am I like a special guest?
07:58Another special guest has arrived.
08:00It's a special guest.
08:05Because he thinks too seriously about marriage, he can't break up.
08:13In the past, he had a great love affair before he got married.
08:18Have you ever had a time when you wanted to get married?
08:24I don't think I'll get married if I go on like this.
08:27I don't think I can get married if I go on like this.
08:31Have you ever said you wanted to get married?
08:34When I was in my 30s, I was at home with the girl I was dating at the time.
08:42There was a cafe au lait on the veranda.
08:45It's like a commercial.
08:48The moon was beautiful.
08:50It was really beautiful.
08:52The moon was beautiful.
08:54I thought it was a beautiful moon.
08:57Suddenly, I wanted to get married.
09:02I got up from here.
09:05When I got here, I had just come to Tokyo at that time.
09:10It was a time when I had to work really hard.
09:13I was so scared that I was going to get out of here.
09:16I swallowed it.
09:19I don't know if I would have done it if I had come out.
09:23I was really scared.
09:26I thought I was going to get out of here.
09:31Did you put up with it?
09:33I thought I was going to get out of here.
09:37Didn't she notice that her hair was coming out?
09:40I don't think she noticed that my hair was coming out.
09:42I was looking at the moon.
09:45What is that sentence?
09:47When I looked at the moon,
09:49I understood how Natsume Soseki felt when she said,
09:52I love you, the moon is beautiful.
09:54Don't make fun of me.
09:57Amazing.
09:59Did you know that Sashi had a big plan to get married?
10:04I didn't know.
10:06I didn't know because I was looking at the moon.
10:09It was a noisy episode.
10:12I was looking at the moon.
10:14It was a fashionable episode.
10:16Who is the person?
10:17The person of the moon.
10:18Kaguya.
10:20Kaguya swallowed her marriage.
10:23Why did it end?
10:25We've been dating for a long time.
10:27We don't know what to do with each other.
10:30I thought it would be better to leave.
10:34Didn't you tell her your feelings?
10:35I just got here, so I want to get married.
10:38Can't you wait a little longer?
10:42I can't tell her that easily.
10:44I got here.
10:46She is serious.
10:47I got here.
10:49I don't think she noticed it when she was looking at the moon.
10:54I think she understood it.
10:56I see.
10:57When you proposed to her,
11:00you got married for work.
11:03What did you think was wrong with your work?
11:06It's not good to say.
11:08It's not the time to get married.
11:10It's not the time to get married.
11:15You got married as soon as you left Tokyo.
11:17Of course, it's not 100% work.
11:19I don't want to say that I gave up my marriage for work.
11:24I wanted to play a little more.
11:28That's it.
11:30That's it.
11:32I got you.
11:34I got you.
11:35I know how you feel.
11:37That's it.
11:38I got you.
11:39You are not afraid of marriage.
11:42You just have to live your life with your wife.
11:45You are afraid of this responsibility,
11:47and you want to get away from it.
11:50Stop it!
11:53I got you.
11:55I got you.
11:57I got you.
11:59I knew it.
12:02I knew it.
12:03That's true.
12:05Responsibility.
12:07To be honest, I want to get married properly.
12:15What do you mean by properly?
12:17I don't know what you mean by properly.
12:19Do you mean you don't want to cheat on your wife?
12:21I don't want to cheat on my wife.
12:23That's it.
12:25That's it.
12:27That's it.
12:28That's it.
12:30Can you give me a little more sense of judgment?
12:33That's a long way to go.
12:36That's a long way to go.
12:38I think it's better to leave a long way to go.
12:41There are many ways to get married.
12:46If there is a right timing and pattern,
12:49I think it's good to get married in each way.
12:51I think it's good.
12:52When you get married,
12:54do you get married when you have children?
12:57Don't you do anything for your father?
12:59I want to get married properly.
13:01I want to get married properly.
13:03I want to get married properly.
13:04You should get married properly on the first day.
13:06That's right.
13:07You should get married properly on the first day.
13:09I want to get married properly on the first day.
13:10Now!
13:12Now!
13:13If you're so worried,
13:15I'm sure you want to get married properly.
13:17You're right.
13:19I'm not sure how to get married properly.
13:21You want your wife to cheat on you.
13:23I want her to cheat on you.
13:24If she did, I think I would get married properly.
13:27If Yoshimoto's employee said,
13:29So I said, I'm going to post it on Facebook.
13:31I said, please send me one by one.
13:33And I put the link below.
13:35If you do that, I'll do it.
13:39I'm not that stupid.
13:41I didn't notice.
13:43I didn't realize that God suddenly became so thin.
13:45And I drew a heart pattern.
13:47I only drew a cute one.
13:51The reason why she doesn't want to get married is
13:53because she still wants to play until she makes a decision.
13:58He is 49 years old.
14:00What kind of relationship does he have now?
14:02He's always handsome.
14:04I think he's still popular.
14:07I don't know what makes him popular.
14:14What do you mean?
14:16I have a few relationships.
14:18Do you have a few?
14:20Yes, I do.
14:21Do you have a few recently?
14:23Yes, I do.
14:25What kind of relationships do you have?
14:28I'm a single man.
14:32When I was young, I used to go out with my seniors.
14:35But now, I don't go out with anyone.
14:38I used to go out with the staff of a soup and curry restaurant.
14:42I used to hang out with them.
14:45Then I started to go out for a meal.
14:49I don't know anyone.
14:51Do you go out for that person?
14:53I just hang out with them.
14:56Then I started to go out for a meal.
15:00That's how I started to go out for a meal.
15:04What do you think is good about that?
15:08I think it's good to have a conversation and eye contact.
15:13I'm watching you.
15:15So, we have eye contact.
15:17We have eye contact.
15:20When I don't look at her,
15:23I think she's looking at me.
15:27I'm nervous.
15:29I think it's the same as when I was in my 40s.
15:32I haven't changed since I was in junior high school.
15:34I think we have eye contact.
15:36I think it's the same as when I was in my first year of junior high school.
15:40I think we have eye contact.
15:43I think we have eye contact.
15:46I think we have eye contact.
15:48I think we have eye contact.
15:50The judge of whether a woman is interested in him or not
15:53is Mr. Tokuishi, who is good at making eye contact.
15:57It is said that Mr. Tokuishi has actually developed into a lover
16:00because of eye contact.
16:04When I'm with my staff,
16:06or when I'm with an AP,
16:08or when I'm with someone I like,
16:10or when I'm with someone I like,
16:12or when I'm with someone I like,
16:14or when I'm with someone I like,
16:16I can directly make eye contact with him.
16:20the first person is all the way up there.
16:22They're looking at you from the ground.
16:24They're looking at you from the ground.
16:25Let me explain what will happen when he is visiting someone.
16:28Let me explain what will happen when he is visiting someone.
16:31Let's say he's going to take a few people to visit now.
16:34There are two people in these elevators who are enemy to us.
16:37He told them over the phone that he has some work to do today.
16:40There are two people who are enemy to us.
16:42When I made eye contact with a few old men in my neighborhood,
16:48I was like, huh?
16:50I don't think people like me just because we make eye contact.
16:53We've met a few times.
16:55We're really partners, right?
16:57Somehow, I feel like my eyes are moist.
16:59Moist?
17:00Moist?
17:01Moist?
17:02Moisture.
17:03Moisture.
17:04Moisture.
17:05When I look at people I like,
17:07isn't it a little different?
17:09Well, it's kind of glittery.
17:11When I look at people, it's like...
17:13Oh, is it?
17:14Moisture.
17:15Moisture.
17:16Moisture.
17:17Moisture.
17:18Moisture.
17:19Moisture.
17:20Moisture.
17:21We made eye contact.
17:23We made eye contact.
17:24I'm getting a little nervous.
17:26That's what I feel like, huh?
17:28I get it.
17:30I get it.
17:31We're really just friends.
17:34Freckles in the eye when he makes eye contact with a woman.
17:38What was it like when you were looking through the elevator?
17:43When I was looking through the elevator, I was looking through it several times in a day.
17:51It's not the first time, is it?
17:53I was looking through the elevator, and there was someone in the back.
17:57I thought, oh, something's wrong.
17:59What kind of person is that?
18:01How do you look through the elevator?
18:03What kind of eyes are you looking through the elevator?
18:05It's also when you're working.
18:07In front of the elevator, right?
18:09Thank you for your hard work.
18:11Thank you for today.
18:13If you have a chance, please come again.
18:15It's not closed around here.
18:17Thank you for your hard work.
18:19At this time.
18:21It's closed.
18:23It's closed.
18:25In a few seconds?
18:27It's closed when it's closed.
18:29It's closed when it's closed.
18:31It's closed when it's closed.
18:33It's over.
18:35It's closed when it's closed.
18:37It's closed when it's closed.
18:39It's closed when it's closed.
18:41It's closed when it's closed.
18:43The elevator was closed earlier.
18:45In my head.
18:47It's the way of the person who has it.
18:49That's right.
18:51It's the assumption that everyone likes it.
18:53I see.
18:55It's impossible if you just have eyes.
18:57The staff will see it, right?
18:59They'll see it, right?
19:01The difference between the eyes when you take the order.
19:05I'm not stupid.
19:07I know.
19:09Was there a special moment?
19:11The staff of the soup curry.
19:13If it's like this,
19:15I know you're going to take the order.
19:17When there's nothing.
19:19When you're waiting.
19:21There's something like this.
19:23After meeting.
19:25It's not just a normal meeting.
19:27After meeting.
19:31I found it.
19:33I found it.
19:35What?
19:37I thought the staff was coming.
19:39I'm not watching.
19:41He's an entertainer.
19:43I'm not watching.
19:45I've seen it before.
19:47There may be a person.
19:49I don't know if it's true.
19:51I'm going to crush the possibilities one by one.
19:53I'm going to crush the possibilities one by one.
19:55They're a little interested.
19:57I'm looking.
19:59So I looked at it, too, and I was like,
20:01what the heck?
20:03What's going on?
20:05Which side are you looking at?
20:07Which side?
20:09Let's do it again.
20:11I don't know.
20:12What did the clerk look like?
20:14Did you look at the same side?
20:16Yes, I did.
20:17I was looking at the same side.
20:19That's when it happened.
20:21We were both like, what the heck?
20:23That's when it happened.
20:24That's when it happened.
20:26I think it's okay to shorten the distance.
20:28That's right.
20:30Just like Mr. Tokui,
20:32women who work in the catering industry
20:34have actually been given
20:36contact information
20:38from customers.
20:40According to the survey,
20:4262% of the people
20:44were actually asked
20:46about it.
20:48In addition,
20:5035% of the people
20:52who were actually told
20:54about it.
20:57Mr. Tokui, how do you feel
20:59about this result?
21:01I think it depends on the industry,
21:03but what I've learned is that
21:05there are customers
21:07who might be
21:09worried about us.
21:11But when they don't
21:13contact me,
21:15I don't want to go there.
21:17Do I have to eat curry there?
21:19Soup curry.
21:21That's right.
21:23I can't help it.
21:25I'll give up on the soup curry there.
21:27Instead,
21:29I might like keema curry.
21:31Shut up!
21:33Shut up!
21:35It's like losing soup and putting keema in it.
21:37I'll make sure to get rid of the soup
21:39as much as possible.
21:42Surprisingly,
21:44there are a lot of customers
21:46who contact the store staff,
21:48and Tokuins also
21:50talk to the store staff
21:52about their experience.
21:54I'm the type of person
21:56who talks to the staff.
21:58I tell them how cool they are.
22:00When I tell them
22:02how cool they are,
22:04they think,
22:06I can do it too.
22:08I give them my number
22:10and write my LINE ID
22:12on the back of the receipt.
22:14I tell them I'll be waiting.
22:16Do they come?
22:18Yes, they do.
22:20When I was 20,
22:22I met a person
22:24at a crepe shop.
22:26Five years later,
22:28I met him at work.
22:30I met him again,
22:32but it didn't go well.
22:34But the first thing that
22:36caused the dramatic development
22:38was the receipt on the back of the receipt.
22:40That's right.
22:42It's better to have such an event
22:44in your life, isn't it?
22:46That's right.
22:48That's right.
22:50Don't make a drama by yourself.
22:52I asked the camera man
22:54to give me his contact information.
22:56I asked him.
22:58He read the QR code
23:00on the LINE screen
23:02and told me.
23:04I was a little embarrassed
23:06and went home right away.
23:08When I checked my phone,
23:10the QR code was back on the home screen.
23:12I couldn't read it.
23:14I called AP
23:16and he told me.
23:18He wrote AP's phone number on the script.
23:20What?
23:22No one saw that.
23:24I called him
23:26and he told me.
23:28I went on a date
23:30with the camera man several times.
23:32Everyone is enjoying it.
23:34That's why
23:36when I watch a drama
23:38or a movie of the camera man,
23:40I think,
23:42Well,
23:44that's unusual.
23:47What do you think about the drama of the camera man?
23:49I sometimes meet the camera man.
23:51Is there such an event
23:53in your life?
23:55It's not a big event,
23:57but it's better to have such an event
23:59in your life.
24:01How about you, Mika?
24:03I fell in love with a convenience store employee
24:05in a special system era
24:07in a past where I used to live.
24:09A person who was standing next to me
24:11I ran away to the convenience store because I was attacked by someone far away.
24:15At that time, the clerk who was very kind to me fell in love with me at first sight.
24:21He wrote me a letter saying he liked me and asked me to give him my contact information.
24:26We ate a few meals together.
24:28That's great.
24:30Every time I go to the convenience store at midnight, I think,
24:32I was in love with her at that time.
24:35You shouldn't have such an event in your life.
24:40I thought I didn't need it.
24:43Don't give orders like that.
24:47Maki, do you have a girlfriend?
24:49I have a girlfriend, but it's hard to talk to her.
24:53That's right.
24:55If a clerk asks you to give him your contact information,
25:00what would you do?
25:03I have to take the risk.
25:07I can't accept it.
25:10You have to be able to overcome it.
25:13I'm telling you what I like.
25:15I don't want to take any risks.
25:17I just want a relationship.
25:18It's not that easy.
25:21You've overcome a lot of things.
25:24That's true.
25:25He is a man who is particular about love, such as eye moisture.
25:32He is caught in detail other than love.
25:37In the photo of the meeting,
25:39everyone doesn't want to be in the middle.
25:42I don't like it.
25:44I like it.
25:46I'm in the middle.
25:49I don't like it.
25:51The middle is not the picture of the meeting of the Cabinet,
25:55so there is no Prime Minister in the middle.
25:58I don't like it.
26:00In the meantime, the angle of view is getting wider and wider.
26:03People who take pictures can't get in.
26:05Mr. Tamura is at the end of the picture.
26:07Mr. Nakamura is at the end of the picture.
26:09I don't like it.
26:10I don't like the angle of view.
26:13Everyone has a camera.
26:15When you take a picture, you have to shout.
26:18I'll take a picture.
26:195, 4, 3, 2, 1.
26:24I'll take a picture.
26:25I don't like it when I see people repeating it.
26:29I don't need to take a picture and check it once,
26:32so I'll take 10 pictures.
26:36I want to decide the rule when taking a picture.
26:40I don't like being in the middle.
26:44I'll definitely do it.
26:46I've done it a hundred times.
26:48I'm from a group,
26:50so I don't want to be in the middle.
26:52If I'm in the middle, I'll take a picture and leave.
26:56It takes a long time.
26:57Everyone is alone, so I don't want to be in the middle.
27:00It's the same with shooting.
27:02I'm waiting for the audience to come.
27:09In the end, everyone will come.
27:12I'll take a picture with a mask on.
27:14I'll take a picture with a mask on and do it again.
27:17I'll take a picture with a mask on and do it again.
27:21Some people hate it.
27:23Some people say,
27:24I'm really in the middle.
27:26I'm really in the middle.
27:29I don't care.
27:31I don't care.
27:33I don't care.
27:34I don't care.
27:35I don't care.
27:36I don't care.
27:37I don't care.
27:38I don't think it's meaningless.
27:40When I'm giving out the card number,
27:42the clerk is like this.
27:44I'm not looking.
27:47It's a common practice.
27:51I don't need it.
28:08It's a common practice.
28:11I don't think it's meaningless.
28:14Do the talk-ins know about this?
28:19I'm really grateful and I think it's cute.
28:23I don't think it's completely meaningless,
28:25but when you're giving out the card numbers,
28:27the clerk is like this.
28:28Ah, yes, yes, yes.
28:30He's like, I'm not looking.
28:32With one hand, like this.
28:33He's like, I'm not looking.
28:35I don't have to do that, but I believe him.
28:37It's okay.
28:38So that's what the boss says to the customer,
28:41but if you don't convey it, it doesn't make sense.
28:43That's what the boss says.
28:44He doesn't tell you.
28:46It's going to be a problem.
28:48Can I knock down the Shinkansen seat?
28:52I know.
28:53I'm trying not to.
28:54The seat is something to knock down.
28:56Me too.
28:57It's a bit of a hassle to be confirmed.
29:01You can just knock it down.
29:04I've actually heard it a few times.
29:06I've been told I don't like it.
29:08I don't like it.
29:10I don't like it.
29:11I don't like it.
29:12I'm having a hard time being knocked down here.
29:15There's a way to knock it down.
29:17Like a person who's a torture.
29:19No, no, no, no.
29:20Like a woman's hand.
29:21Like a woman's hand.
29:22Like an electrician.
29:24Like an electrician.
29:26When the person behind me said no,
29:28I said, I really understand.
29:30If you shift 5mm, you can move left and right,
29:33so shift 5mm here too.
29:35Shift 5mm here.
29:36Shift 5mm here.
29:37It was a bit of a hassle.
29:39It was like a delusion.
29:41I wanted to knock it down a bit.
29:43I had a hard time being knocked down.
29:44You're smart.
29:45There were a lot of things,
29:47but I realized that people around 50
29:50should say more detailed things at this age.
29:53That's right.
29:54Let's just say it.
29:57Let her say it.
29:59It's not good.
30:01After this.
30:03I feel like I'm in a romantic relationship.
30:06What kind of love do you have
30:08if you're not smart?
30:11The question was full of wrong answers.
30:21I feel like I'm in a romantic relationship.
30:23What kind of love do you have
30:25if you're not smart?
30:27The question was full of wrong answers.
30:32I don't like the part where everyone is doing the same thing on Christmas.
30:37I'll say it the other way around, but I'm not that special.
30:41Thursday night.
30:43Isn't that what you think, Tokoe-kun?
30:45If you want to watch it again, go to TVER.
30:47Previous broadcasts are on FOD.