Video Information: 07.06.2023, GSE, Goa
Context:
Why did Arjuna care for victory?
Why was Gita spoken at the Kurukshetra?
Is everything in the world a phenomenon?
What is the central purpose of spirituality?
Music Credits: Milind Date
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#AcharyaPrashant #आचार्यप्रशांत #Philosophy #BhagavadGita
Context:
Why did Arjuna care for victory?
Why was Gita spoken at the Kurukshetra?
Is everything in the world a phenomenon?
What is the central purpose of spirituality?
Music Credits: Milind Date
~~~
#AcharyaPrashant #आचार्यप्रशांत #Philosophy #BhagavadGita
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00:00Hello Acharyaji, so at times while learning from the Gita I get a slightly nihilistic
00:12taste of the nature or the world and the prime example being this verse like if everything
00:19in nature is a process or a phenomena we cannot label phenomena as a greater phenomena or
00:25a lesser phenomena or a right phenomena or a wrong phenomena.
00:28So my question is then why should Krishna or Arjuna care if they win the war like Arjuna's
00:34duty being to kill the embodied on the other side and win the war and to win the war is
00:40a natural process so would be if it were the case that Duryodhana wins it.
00:46So all this Gyan could have been given to Arjuna despite the outcome of the war or the
00:51war itself similarly in our day to day life why should we care so much if a crime let's
00:57say is committed why not just label it as a natural process and smile instead of taking
01:02serious actions against the criminal on which the institution of laws are based.
01:07Your entire question began with if everything in nature is a phenomena.
01:12Yes that's I mean I have a that's not I mean yeah that sounds like.
01:17Please wait if everything in nature is a phenomena to whom to you right yeah now is everything
01:25in nature a phenomena change the if with is yes to you is everything in nature a phenomena to you
01:33is everything in nature a phenomena yes then you are Krishna.
01:39I mean so that's what we learned today isn't it sir we are we are not talking ideals here
01:48do you forget about the if get into the is if is imagination right if is imagination
01:57and your entire question began with an if yes okay so replace the if with is
02:04to you is everything in nature a phenomena
02:06I mean if I say no would I be contradicting the truth how does that matter we are asking for the
02:19fact when you see things huh the way you lead your daily life do you look at people as processes
02:30no huh so then the if has been answered right yes to you stuff in the world is not phenomenal
02:41to you stuff in the world is meaningful and purposeful
02:46what does phenomena mean phenomena basically means illusion
02:54and the purpose of all spirituality is to heal your suffering
03:00is the world a phenomena to you no therefore you suffer and therefore you must be shown that the
03:07world is a phenomena right right and therefore some action has to be taken
03:20krishna is bringing arjun towards that action through this gyan therefore this gyan is needed
03:28the purpose of spirituality is to not to deliver you abstract concepts it is to relieve you of your
03:35suffering always begin from your inner condition your inner condition is of illusion and consequent
03:42suffering it's not that krishna told you that the world is phenomenal so you start saying if the
03:49world is phenomenal vedanta asks for whom to you it is not phenomenal therefore you have to learn
03:57that it is phenomenal and that's what the gita is about what arjun is doing is that he
04:04is embarking on a course of action that will keep proving to him that the phenomena
04:13is not a phenomena but a reality he says those are people not processes
04:20and if you believe in something too much and for too long then that belief becomes your truth
04:33krishna does not want arjun to continue in his belief
04:40because that would be a false truth he's saying oh i'll kill those people
04:44they are not people at all they are processes but if you keep believing that they are people
04:48you'll also keep believing that you are a person and if you are a person your suffering will continue
04:57so all all these are questions arising from bad logic and they've always been there well if the
05:06world is just an illusion why should we bother for the right action well if the rabbit is just
05:17a phenomena why should i not kill it eat it i have not killed anybody
05:23me lord there has been no murder because there was no person at all that is only process
05:29why are you sending me to the jail i didn't kill anybody
05:33because there was no person in the first place so all all these are instances of bad logic
05:40if you are saying there was no person first of all prove to me that you do not think of yourself as
05:45a person there might in the absolute sense have been no person but to you there was a person
05:55therefore in your own frame of reference you did commit a murder therefore you will be punished
06:02and therefore the objective of all punishment has to be to bring you out of your own frame of
06:08reference that's the objective of punishment to beat the nonsense out of you to beat your
06:16own personal frame of reference out of you and that's what is called bringing you back to your
06:20senses did the murder happen in your own frame of reference it did happen didn't it happen
06:30had you known that there is a thing called a murder you wouldn't have shot at that person
06:34in the first place because you already know you cannot kill him then while you fire at him
06:41in your own sense in your own inner world you did think that the person dies right
06:47and hence you fired at the person so in your own world you did commit a murder and therefore in
06:53your own world you must face a punishment it's all with respect to somebody that's vedan it
07:01always asks for whom to whom thank you acharyaji got it