PTI Aur Hukoomat Ke Darmiyan Mazakraat... Rauf Hassan Ne Zair Gardish Khabron Ki Tardeed Kar Di,
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00:00Please tell us about the past and the present.
00:03Has the party gone through a thought process
00:06that has led to the government talking to them?
00:10Because the past statements are very clear.
00:12Who are they? What is their political status?
00:14They are puppets. They have no authority.
00:16What should we talk about?
00:19Mr. Badami, you have given me such a long introduction.
00:23Thank you for tolerating me, sir.
00:25You have given me so many statements.
00:28Look, nothing has changed.
00:30No matter how much you try, nothing has changed.
00:34As far as the substantive component is concerned,
00:39it is still the same as we have said,
00:43that they have nothing to give.
00:46And we used to say this before,
00:49and we still say this today,
00:51that they are dummies.
00:53Their status is not more than a dummy.
00:55They have stolen the elections in the dark of the night
00:58and with 17 seats, 18 seats, 20 seats,
01:01they are heading an illegal and illegal government.
01:05They have brought this country to the brink of destruction.
01:10This country needs political stability.
01:13Now, a few days ago,
01:15on the 26th,
01:18the Prime Minister is now getting the news
01:22that he had personally given instructions
01:26to carry out this operation,
01:29which included bullets.
01:31So, in these circumstances,
01:33it will be very difficult to talk to these people.
01:36But at the same time,
01:38the reality of the nation at the moment is that
01:41the country is surrounded by very serious issues.
01:45And as a political party,
01:48it is the responsibility of all parties,
01:51including Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf,
01:53which is Pakistan's largest and most accepted political party,
01:57that if a role can be played,
01:59then it should be played.
02:01I want to clarify two things.
02:03Number one,
02:04no formal conversation has started with the government
02:08so far as you and I are talking.
02:13Okay.
02:14So, the person you are talking to
02:16is Ayaz Sadiq's cousin,
02:20who has passed away.
02:22So, for his condolences,
02:25some of our people have met with Ayaz Sadiq.
02:29No conversation has started.
02:31Let me rephrase it this way,
02:33the meeting that took place today was a coincidence.
02:35So, would it be right to say this?
02:37No, it was not a coincidence.
02:39They had gone to condole.
02:41No, they had gone to condole.
02:43At that time, the people of the government were also present.
02:45So, it was a coincidence.
02:46That's all.
02:47Is it right to say this?
02:48According to my information,
02:50Ayaz Sadiq had said that we will call this person as well.
02:52So, I think he had come.
02:54I will not take his name.
02:56But what I have been told is that
02:58no conversation has started.
03:01So, it is the same thing as it was 10 days ago.
03:04Yes, PGI took a step.
03:09Mr. Imran Khan took this step after the debacle of 2026.
03:13So, he has created a committee in the middle of the night.
03:18He has been doing this for a long time.
03:21You must remember the story of the murder town.
03:23He had also created a committee there.
03:25So, he had created a committee
03:27that you go and talk.
03:29If there is a way out, then take it out.
03:31Now, that committee will form its TORs.
03:34And yesterday he had held a press conference
03:36in which he had clarified a lot of things.
03:39So, let's see what happens in the future.
03:41Noor Sahab, you are a beginner.
03:43You are a beginner.
03:45There is a deadline of 14th.
03:47If there can be a conversation, then do it.
03:49Otherwise, Mr. Khan's call is for 16th.
03:52It is the beginning of the civil disobedience movement.
03:5514th.
03:56When I am talking to you, it is 11th.
03:58If the conversation starts in 72 hours,
04:00then it is okay.
04:01Otherwise, it is civil disobedience.
04:03Yes.
04:04Mr. Khan has already issued a series of instructions.
04:08Right.
04:09Just one clarification.
04:11You said in the beginning that nothing has changed.
04:14No matter how much you try, our statements have not changed.
04:16Sir, this has changed.
04:17You used to consider them dummies yesterday.
04:19You still consider them dummies today.
04:20But yesterday you used to say that
04:21talking to dummies is a waste of time.
04:23Today you say, okay, we can talk.
04:25The best people in the country.
04:26This difference has come, right?
04:28Look, Mr. Wasim.
04:29I am one of those very few people
04:31who have always promoted dialogue.
04:33And it has been said that at the end of the day,
04:35you have solved the problems of the country
04:37by sitting at the table and talking.
04:39With the establishment.
04:40You have also promoted dialogue with the establishment.
04:42You said that what is there after Nawaz Sharif?
04:44He has no authority.
04:45What are you talking about?
04:46Absolutely.
04:47I am absolutely firm on that.
04:49They have nothing.
04:50If they want to make themselves a conduit,
04:53then become one.
04:54That by talking to them,
04:56they have to go there, stand up,
04:58join hands and take permission.
05:00So go and do this.
05:01If they understand their work,
05:03they understand the status,
05:04that by standing hand in hand,
05:05if you want to take permission and move forward,
05:07then do it.
05:08Sir, even today,
05:09when you are so sure
05:10that they have to take permission from them,
05:12in fact, it is amazing today.
05:13At some point in time,
05:14at some point in time,
05:15the interests of the country
05:17should have precedence
05:19over everything else.
05:21And I think that
05:22in the history of Pakistan,
05:23that position has come
05:25that the interests of the country
05:27should be given precedence
05:28over everything else.