La policía de la ciudad, en coordinación con la división de Fraudes Bancarios, ha llevado a cabo una serie de allanamientos para desbaratar una banda de estafadores que se apropiaban de bienes y propiedades mediante el uso fraudulento de créditos y compras no pagadas. Los delincuentes operaban a gran escala, generando una cadena de estafas que sumaba grandes sumas de dinero. Las alertas comenzaron a sonar cuando los pagos se retrasaron y los estafadores intentaron deshacerse de las empresas implicadas.
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00:00Police! Police!
00:07Police! Police!
00:17Only two minutes have passed since 12 noon.
00:20Pay attention to these images.
00:23In the last few hours, the police of the city repeated raids
00:28to tear apart a gang of swindlers.
00:32Anonymous society swindlers.
00:36In a moment, the complete story of how they kept the goods,
00:40the properties and the companies of many people,
00:44a gang of swindlers fell. Javi, how are you? Good morning.
00:47Hello Facundo, how are you? Good morning.
00:49Obviously, the bank fraud division of the city police,
00:54through the city's justice,
00:57ordered these raids as a result of an operation,
01:03of a gang of swindlers who created companies
01:07to then default them.
01:10That is, they signed up in the IGJ, the General Justice Inspection,
01:15or any other company,
01:17they took loans for companies in different banks,
01:22and then they operated as if they were a company
01:25dedicated to commercialization,
01:28as if they were an obviously legal company.
01:31When they defaulted this company that they had created,
01:36they left a debt trail, not only, for example, for banks,
01:40because they took loans and used checkers,
01:43but also for different companies
01:46that sold them other elements.
01:49For example, they bought cars,
01:52they bought small premises or small places
01:56where they later sub-rented them.
01:59They also bought imported clothes, of course,
02:05in this case, which is very fashionable in recent times,
02:08and they left a debt trail.
02:10Of course, in the midst of hundreds of people
02:13damaged by this gang...
02:15And millions of debts as well.
02:17...the police of the city discovers.
02:19Look, Javi, another of the raids,
02:21already with a more prepared team,
02:24because they didn't know what they were going to find on the other side.
02:27We repeat, the bank fraud division of the police of the city
02:32walks and goes through that corridor.
02:34Anonymous society swindlers.
02:37Anonymous.
02:38A total of 17 raids were carried out,
02:41one in the city of Buenos Aires
02:43and the rest in the urban area,
02:45mostly in the town of Lusurbiaga,
02:49here in the great Buenos Aires.
02:51Of those raids, there were 11 arrested.
02:57And among the 11, there are 10 men and a woman.
03:04Among the number of arrested men
03:07were the leaders of this gang, the organizers,
03:11who, as I was saying,
03:13taking debt through credits
03:16and different credit cards,
03:18with different bank entities,
03:20in addition to the use of checks,
03:23generated economic harm to many entities,
03:26not only bank or financial,
03:29but also to many companies
03:31in which they themselves contracted debt
03:34by buying merchandise
03:36and then reselling it and doing a double business
03:39with the fraud.
03:40In these swindlers, Anonymous Society,
03:42that once again,
03:44once again, in these scams,
03:46there are a large number of cases
03:49finished, with sentence even,
03:52and others in process,
03:55which are denounced or used
03:58with this type of modality.
04:00Now, it's very serious, Javi, because this involves
04:02many people who think they are working
04:04in companies that surely do not exist,
04:07many suppliers to whom they hire services,
04:10that's why the numerous raids
04:12that take place in different places.
04:14Listen to this, look, observe.
04:20Another of the places raided.
04:2311 arrested, 17 raids.
04:26What you are seeing is part of an exclusive document
04:28that Javier Díaz acceded to,
04:30to be able to show how this gang operated.
04:33Fraudsters, Anonymous Society,
04:35asked for credits
04:37in the name of companies that did not exist.
04:40They hired services, suppliers,
04:42to whom they later did not pay.
04:45They bought merchandise
04:48that they later did not pay.
04:50This is how these swindlers operated.
04:53Exactly.
04:54And, obviously, justice
04:56has had to intervene in these events
04:59as a consequence of the denunciations
05:01that have been made by different entities
05:03about the fraud
05:06and the debts that they had contracted.
05:09Observe the houses
05:11that had been raided
05:18where the main shareholders were sought.
05:23In addition, they seized
05:26firearms,
05:28documentation,
05:31furniture,
05:34such as cars, motorcycles,
05:36because they also bought vehicles for them,
05:38not for the companies.
05:41Computers and cell phones
05:44were seized
05:46to be searched
05:48and, obviously, to highlight
05:50everything that has arisen.
05:52A great task,
05:53in this case, of the National Court No. 4,
05:55in charge of Dr. Pia Darola,
05:58who has ordered
06:00this type of rapid operations.
06:03Do you know why?
06:04Because the crime must be cut off quickly.
06:06This is a crime that, as it is progressive
06:08and is increasing,
06:10even in this same gang,
06:12what it does is increase much more
06:15the flow of victims
06:17and of prejudice.
06:19Why?
06:20Because the number,
06:22the volume of illegal businesses
06:25was very high.
06:27The National Court No. 4,
06:28in charge of Dr. Pia Darola.
06:29Each company or each carcass they set up,
06:31Javi, this is like a game of marbles.
06:33There are companies inside companies,
06:35companies bought by companies,
06:37and in the middle, many people
06:39who were scammed.
06:40Damaged.
06:41Damaged.
06:42Imagine that they asked for credits
06:43on behalf of companies
06:44that later disarmed
06:45and there was that great debt.
06:47Exactly.
06:48And also, you know what?
06:49That will never be recovered.
06:51Because as they transform it into goods,
06:53those goods,
06:55although some go to auction and so on,
06:57later they do not recover it.
06:59This is the reality.
07:00The National Court No. 4,
07:01in charge of Dr. Pia Darola,
07:03National Criminal and Correctional No. 4,
07:05Secretariat 113,
07:07and the Banking Frauds Division,
07:09there we are seeing,
07:10of the police of the city
07:12that has also worked
07:13to deal with this type of crime
07:15that is also very technological,
07:17very specific,
07:19beyond tracking,
07:21cell phone interception,
07:24reconstructing the whole story,
07:26the story of scams,
07:29of these anonymous society scammers
07:32that they created, I reiterate,
07:34what they did was
07:35create a company,
07:37register it in the IGJ,
07:39once registered,
07:41because it is legal to register a company.
07:42Obviously, all the engineering they had,
07:44they registered the company,
07:45in the IGJ,
07:46which is the place of the General Inspection of Justice,
07:48and what did they do with those companies
07:50that they were putting together
07:51and breaking at the same time?
07:52They took credits,
07:54or they used the credit
07:55that many banks give to the companies created,
07:58because of course,
07:59the companies have to have a backing,
08:01and this is also a commercial issue
08:03for the banks,
08:04and with the amount they gave,
08:06there is a specific amount for banks,
08:09for companies,
08:11that amount was used to swindle,
08:13to swindle others.
08:15When they could not respond
08:17for that amount taken
08:19in the banks,
08:21they made the company disappear,
08:24and they created others again,
08:26and so on,
08:27although there were not many,
08:29there were some that they could create,
08:31almost simultaneously,
08:33is when they began to receive the complaints,
08:36the trial,
08:37and from there,
08:38obviously,
08:39they began to make all the requests.
08:41You know, Javi,
08:42that we are trying to be able
08:44to name some of the companies
08:46that have developed,
08:47because we imagine
08:48the amount of people
08:50that can be seeing at this moment
08:52how there were companies
08:55that a few hours later
08:56were disarmed,
08:58and to which, of course,
09:00surely they contacted them,
09:02they asked them for goods,
09:04they asked them for products,
09:06they asked for credits,
09:08we are talking about a large group
09:13that there, as indicated,
09:14bought goods,
09:15they did not pay it,
09:16they took out credits,
09:17they did not pay off debts,
09:19and so they were generating a wheel,
09:22as Javier explained,
09:24which ends up being a scam,
09:26or repeated and multiple scams,
09:29of a lot, a lot of money.
09:31Exactly,
09:32that's why you have to be very careful.
09:33One can say,
09:34but how do I know
09:35that they are going to scam me?
09:36In some cases,
09:37it's true,
09:38you can't be warned
09:40until it happens.
09:41In these cases,
09:42the volume that they began to move,
09:46in credits,
09:48although it may be from any company,
09:51it practically did not attract the attention
09:53of the banks,
09:54but later,
09:55when, obviously,
09:56the payments were delayed,
09:57there the alerts began to sound,
10:00they began to get rid of that signature,
10:04and then, obviously,
10:06to disappear.
10:07But the police found them
10:09through different searches,
10:10through different places
10:12that they used to frequent,
10:14doing an analysis also
10:16of the business
10:20that they had done or tried to do,
10:22and also of the route,
10:24of the debts.
10:26Javi, in these 11 raids,
10:28sorry, 17 raids,
10:29with 11 detainees,
10:30it is presumed that the band
10:32is still scattered,
10:34there are still more people
10:35who are being searched?
10:36No, in principle,
10:37the main ones are detained,
10:39the main ones of the organization,
10:41which are the bosses,
10:43the armors of this organization,
10:45and some others
10:46who also worked
10:47in the credit taking,
10:48and also in the debt taking,
10:50in companies,
10:51for example,
10:52buying products and others,
10:54they are all,
10:56they tell me,
10:57all detained,
10:58in principle.
10:59There may be some
11:00of the journalists
11:01obviously released,
11:02but they are the ones,
11:03let's say,
11:04of the last stage
11:05of this band,
11:06who are going to be detained,
11:08but they have already
11:09disarticulated it
11:10to prevent them
11:11from continuing to function
11:12as such,
11:13as scammers,
11:14Sociedad Anónima.
11:15We reiterate,
11:16a band of scammers
11:17fell,
11:18they created companies,
11:19they asked for credits,
11:20they bought products,
11:21they hired suppliers,
11:22they made mega-scams,
11:23and then they disappeared.
11:25And so,
11:26the police of the city,
11:27the bank fraud division,
11:28was looking
11:29trace by trace,
11:30track by track,
11:31to see
11:32how they were escaping,
11:33and of course,
11:34they set up a company,
11:35as Javier explained,
11:36with false documentation,
11:37they cloned data,
11:38and automatically
11:39they generated companies
11:40that later
11:41had very little movement,
11:42very little activity,
11:43and then they disappeared.
11:44And so,
11:45the police of the city
11:46and the bank fraud division
11:47were looking
11:48trace by trace,
11:49track by track,
11:50to see
11:51how they were escaping,
11:52and of course,
11:53they generated
11:54very little activity,
11:55but they did appear,
11:56buying goods
11:57that they never paid,
11:58goods that they received
11:59and never paid,
12:00they bought
12:01or took out
12:02credits
12:03that they later
12:04did not pay,
12:05but they did receive
12:06the money.
12:07The police
12:08was following them,
12:09the bank fraud division
12:10was pulling
12:11some data
12:12and realizing
12:13that there were
12:14many companies
12:15involved,
12:16many of which
12:17were practically
12:18embezzled,
12:19embezzled,
12:20embezzled,
12:21embezzled,
12:22and they were practically
12:23ghost companies
12:24created
12:25based on
12:26information
12:27they were able
12:28to get
12:29by cloning data.
12:30I'm looking into
12:31sources of
12:32justice
12:33that tell me
12:34that
12:35they operated
12:36among other
12:37names,
12:38District
12:39Textile
12:40SRL.
12:41Pay attention
12:42to this
12:43because...
12:44District
12:45Textile
12:46SRL
12:47is a company
12:48created by them,
12:49right?
12:50For example,
12:51they bought...
12:52District
12:53Textile.
12:54Exactly.
12:55They bought
12:56clothes linings.
12:57Do you know
12:58what clothes linings are?
12:59Yes.
13:00They are the
13:01rags from,
13:02for example,
13:03the United States
13:04that they sell,
13:05they turn them
13:06into clothes
13:07per kilo
13:08and sell them
13:09to different countries.
13:10Among others,
13:11for example,
13:12to Chile.
13:13And Chile
13:14sells them
13:15to Argentine companies
13:16that also
13:17require this
13:18type of product.
13:19Another company
13:20is SRL.
13:21These
13:22are two,
13:23at least,
13:24of the companies
13:25that they created
13:26and that
13:27truly
13:28were a disaster
13:29because
13:30they shot
13:31other businesses
13:32or other companies
13:33involving them
13:34obviously
13:35in a debt
13:36in which
13:37they were never
13:38going to pay
13:39or in a credit
13:40that they
13:41were never
13:42going to pay.
13:43Look at the transfer
13:44they made
13:45from the detainees.
13:46There are
13:4711.
13:48In some cases,
13:49there are
13:50people who
13:51have sold their
13:52identity
13:53so that they
13:54can form
13:55the companies.
13:56No,
13:57also.
13:58But, well,
13:59they are still
14:00members of a
14:01criminal organization.
14:02Then,
14:03the responsibility
14:04of each of them
14:05will be determined.
14:06But,
14:07also,
14:08beyond
14:09the places
14:10they went to,
14:11because
14:12they have to
14:13go to all
14:14the places,
14:15one can say,
14:16but
14:17these
14:18people
14:19don't necessarily
14:20move to a country,
14:21they don't necessarily
14:22move to a luxurious
14:23place,
14:24but they live
14:25a luxurious life
14:26in their own way.
14:27They don't want
14:28to separate
14:29from the area
14:30where their
14:31relatives are.
14:32Yes,
14:33now I'm going to
14:34ask for a
14:35search again,
14:36which is the first
14:37where, of course,
14:38the police
14:39see how
14:40they enter
14:41one of the
14:42homes.
14:43There are
14:4417 searches,
14:4517 searches
14:46with 11
14:47people
14:48arrested.
14:49I want to see
14:50this first
14:51search
14:52with sound,
14:53I want to see
14:54what...
14:55let's see.
14:56Police!
14:57Police!
14:58Police!
14:59Police!
15:00Police!
15:01Police!
15:02Police!
15:03Police!
15:04I'm being
15:05called.
15:06I don't need
15:07a right.
15:08The right is...
15:09Police!
15:10Police!
15:11I'm being
15:12called.
15:13I don't need
15:14a right.
15:15The right is...
15:16The gate is the big tube that breaks doors.
15:22I don't need the gate.
15:24There it is.
15:25The door hit the gate.
15:29And at the moment of entry, by protocol,
15:32obviously, you have to shout the name of the police
15:36to identify yourself at the moment of entry
15:39so that the resident does not think that they can be criminals,
15:44maybe one day the criminals will do the same thing,
15:48but they are police officers.
15:51And many times, of course, this type of criminals,
15:55beyond the fact that they do scams,
15:57are also dangerous because they use weapons.
16:00Of course, when the police find Javi,
16:02he doesn't know what he's going to find on the other side,
16:05if it's an organization that is, of course,
16:07protected by someone or, as you said, if they have weapons.
16:12Let's see.
16:13Look.
16:14Police!
16:15Police!
16:16They broke the door.
16:20And that's it.
16:21Police!
16:25Come on, come on.
16:26It's part of what we were saying, right?
16:28Come on, come on.
16:29Police, come on.
16:30Come on.
16:31These criminals don't work.
16:33They live off what they steal.
16:35Come on, come on.
16:36Come out like this.
16:37Let's see, let's see, let's see.
16:38Listen.
16:39Come on, come on.
16:40Come out like this.
16:41What you're seeing is part of a document
16:43that we call Anonymous Society Scammers.
16:46Are you alone?
16:47Yes, yes, yes.
16:48Yes?
16:49I'm going to call the police.
16:51And there the police take out one of the detainees.
16:54Turn around.
16:55He's going to turn it around, he's going to handcuff him.
16:57Check to see if he has weapons.
16:59Police!
17:00Give me another one of the raids.
17:01There are 17 in different places
17:03of the Federal Capital and with Urbano, right?
17:05Yes.
17:06Another one.
17:07Let's see.
17:09This is the city's operative group.
17:14It depends on the place,
17:15it depends on the type of criminal they're looking for,
17:18it depends on the background of the criminal they're looking for.
17:21If it's been done, for example, armed robbery,
17:23armed robbery, they're usually seen by the elite groups
17:26as the head of the raid, right?
17:29Because they can more easily repel an attack.
17:36Police!
17:37He's in there.
17:44Police!
17:53Police!
18:01Each one of the groups they find
18:04has a special function.
18:06As you can see, not all of them enter the house.
18:10Some of them cover the outside,
18:15others have a shield
18:18to prevent shots from inside
18:22from impacting their comrades.
18:26The rest can stay outside.
18:29And there's a group, which you can't see here,
18:31which is on the other side of the manzala,
18:34in case the criminal escapes through the ceilings.
18:37If there was such a possibility, because that's also studied.
18:40The place is marked,
18:43and then, when the raid takes place,
18:47the one who marks the place
18:49is the guide for the police.
18:51He leads them, when they go inside...
18:53He's the one who's most exposed, right?
18:55No, because he doesn't enter.
18:56He marks, he says,
18:59this is the house.
19:00For example, a house with a door
19:03with a blue door.
19:05It says 385.
19:08Or he gives them other details in particular
19:11in case they don't get the license plate,
19:14the numbering of the house.
19:17He's the one who marks it.
19:18He guides the police,
19:19they run to the side,
19:20and then they act.
19:21You can see them there.
19:23That's the procedure they do, right?
19:26He doesn't stop being a police officer, of course,
19:28but he does tasks, let's say,
19:30of intelligence in the place.
19:32When he comes back,
19:33he has to write and explain
19:36how the house is,
19:37if it's a two-story, three-story house,
19:39if it has a door, two doors, a garage,
19:41if you can see a car,
19:42if someone can easily access the ceilings
19:46to escape.
19:47All that is left sitting,
19:49and when the groups leave,
19:50they know how to organize the teams.
19:57Is there another raid?
19:59There's more.
20:00Let's see.
20:02Let's go.
20:08They cut one of the locks
20:10at the entrance of the house.
20:13Police, sir, police, open the door.
20:20Police.
20:23Open the door.
20:32Open the door.
20:37Come on, gentlemen.
20:40In some places,
20:41you can say,
20:42but how?
20:43They knock on the door,
20:44they break it.
20:45Yes, it depends.
20:46There they will have information
20:47that there is no danger, right?
20:48To escape, for example,
20:49someone who is inside.
20:50He has no access to the outside,
20:52from another place,
20:53as long as there are windows.
20:57And also, sometimes,
20:58sometimes,
20:59sometimes it is preserved
21:00if there is an older adult,
21:02or someone at risk,
21:04children.
21:06And in other places,
21:07obviously not.
21:11This is the home
21:12of one of the people who was raided.
21:17All these,
21:18all these raid operations
21:20are done,
21:21they have to be done
21:22simultaneously.
21:24What does it mean?
21:25At the same time,
21:26at the same minute,
21:28to prevent anyone
21:29from the gang
21:31to warn others
21:33and they can give them
21:34the possibility of escaping
21:35or
21:37to get rid of the evidence.
21:39Now, I want to go to another,
21:40to another,
21:41to another video
21:42that marks the detainees.
21:44We repeat,
21:4617 raids,
21:4711 detainees.
21:50Some of the companies,
21:51Javi started to mention.
21:53There are the detainees.
21:54Let's see, Javi.
21:55There it is.
21:56Several of the detainees.
21:57Let's see.
21:59They are transferred
22:00for identification,
22:02to respond to the justice
22:03of Judge Giancarola
22:07in inquiry
22:08and then the judge
22:09before the collected evidence
22:11and before the elements
22:12that led to them
22:16to determine the responsibilities.
22:18Yes?
22:19And in this case,
22:20the cover that
22:22is going to be handed over
22:24and from there the sentence.
22:26Some can stay
22:28free, of course,
22:30and others,
22:31no, the other way around,
22:32detainees.
22:33It will depend on the legal qualification
22:34that the judge
22:35puts at the time of the facts, right?
22:37And this,
22:38for his,
22:39obviously,
22:40that everything
22:41will be
22:43involved
22:44according to the evidence
22:45that has been collected
22:46during the investigation,
22:47which leads to justice.
22:49All the investigations
22:50are led to justice,
22:52but
22:54everything that is
22:55investigation
22:56in place
22:57is of the police.
22:59The police,
23:00what they do
23:01is investigate
23:02based on the authorizations
23:03that justice gives them.
23:04Yes?
23:06Remember that
23:07this type,
23:08as I said,
23:09this type of scams
23:10are very common,
23:11unfortunately, right?
23:13There are more and more.
23:14The concessionaires,
23:15remember that last week
23:16we talked about
23:17a concessionaire
23:18who had scammed people,
23:19the issue of cryptocurrencies
23:23and of course
23:24what there is
23:25the more
23:26the scams go up
23:28and this crime
23:29is professionalized
23:31or this crime
23:32is perfected,
23:34the police
23:35have to create
23:36new divisions.
23:37In this case,
23:38although the bank fraud division
23:39is not new,
23:40the city police
23:41do have to
23:42renew themselves
23:44periodically
23:45because, of course,
23:46the scams
23:47are increasing
23:48according to
23:49the possibility.
23:50Look, Javi,
23:51the different profiles,
23:52I think some people
23:53had
23:54more
23:55interference
23:56in the armament
23:57of those companies,
23:58others,
23:59as we said before,
24:00surely
24:01are people
24:02who were asked
24:03some kind
24:04of identity.
24:07Do you realize
24:08the different sources
24:09that we were consulting,
24:10Javi,
24:11who were very dedicated
24:12to cloning identities,
24:13right?
24:14Of companies.
24:15Exactly.
24:16And well,
24:17also,
24:18as we said,
24:19scamming.
24:20They bought
24:21on behalf of the company,
24:22they obtained
24:23credits
24:24as a company
24:25from different
24:26financial entities,
24:27banks,
24:28and so on.
24:29With that,
24:30they made,
24:31for example,
24:32the payment
24:33of the first
24:34merchandise they bought,
24:35then they
24:36asked for
24:37something else again,
24:38they paid again,
24:39and already
24:40in the third
24:41or fourth,
24:42they started
24:43to leave the scam.
24:44They gained
24:45the trust
24:46of the companies
24:47to which they bought
24:48products,
24:49and then,
24:50obviously,
24:51they started
24:52to leave debt.
24:53On one side
24:54and on the other.
24:55In the banks,
24:56which were the ones
24:57who had given them
24:58the credit,
24:59and in the companies
25:00that sold
25:01products to them,
25:02which were then
25:03resold.
25:04That was also
25:05the other business.
25:06Beyond
25:07buying
25:08vehicles
25:09for themselves,
25:10for example,
25:11motorcycles,
25:12cars.
25:13Vehicles that
25:14they took out
25:15with a credit
25:16and then
25:17they didn't pay them.
25:18They didn't pay them.
25:19But they obtained
25:20a framework
25:21that is easy
25:22to investigate.
25:23Sometimes
25:24it is difficult
25:25to explain it,
25:26but when there is
25:27a scam in the middle,
25:28the scammers
25:29are thinking
25:30about the 24 hours
25:31of the day,
25:32as we always say.
25:33While you sleep,
25:34they keep thinking
25:35about how
25:36to steal your life.
25:37And they achieve it.
25:38In many cases,
25:39they achieve it.
25:40In others,
25:41luckily,
25:42they are arrested
25:43for illicit association,
25:44for repeated scams.
25:45The issue of,
25:46for example,
25:47the traders,
25:48the fake traders,
25:49right?
25:50The case of Cositorto,
25:51the case of Verazategui,
25:52this guy
25:53who also
25:54scammed a lot of people
25:55and was arrested
25:56in the last hours.
25:57Also,
25:58there are all
25:59the scams
26:00that are made
26:01through the networks,
26:02through different
26:03platforms.
26:04And also,
26:05obviously,
26:06with the issue
26:07of electronic currency,
26:08there is nothing to talk about.
26:09Also,
26:10they give you
26:11a gain,
26:12as we have always
26:13said
26:14in these scammers,
26:15that is,
26:16they give you
26:17a gain
26:18at the beginning
26:19and then they leave you
26:20stuck
26:21and they don't
26:22give you back
26:23the rest of the money
26:24or the money
26:25that you put in.
26:26In specific cases,
26:27they are already,
26:28luckily,
26:29in court,
26:30outside.
26:31And in this case,
26:32it's the same.
26:33But,
26:34scamming the companies
26:35and other firms,
26:36businesses,
26:37locals,
26:38they bought
26:39everything.
26:40They bought a lot of things
26:41with credit.
26:42And other things
26:43in cash.
26:44Because those credits
26:45were converted
26:46into pesos.
26:47To be able,
26:48in some way,
26:49to pay
26:50in some places
26:51that needed
26:52the physical,
26:53the physical money
26:54and not the virtual money
26:55through credit cards
26:56or cheques.
26:57For example,
26:58cheques.
26:59They issued cheques.
27:00Legal cheques.
27:01And then,
27:02obviously,
27:03they converted
27:04a huge debt
27:05that was impossible
27:06to pay
27:07and they disappeared
27:08from the places
27:09they frequented.