"Nahuel pasó de ser un secuestrado ilícito a ser reconocido"
"Nahuel se encuentra detenido en proceso judicial"
"Tarek William Saab miente rotundamente"
"La entrada de nahuel a Venezuela fue absolutamente legal"
"El objetivo de nahuel era visitar a su hijo"
"A nahuel lo secuestraron en la frontera venezolana"
"Nahuel Gallo no es terrorista, es un ciudadano argentino"
"Venezuela es un país donde no existe ningún derecho humano"
"Tarek Saab es el artífice de las violaciones de derechos humanos"
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"Nahuel se encuentra detenido en proceso judicial"
"Tarek William Saab miente rotundamente"
"La entrada de nahuel a Venezuela fue absolutamente legal"
"El objetivo de nahuel era visitar a su hijo"
"A nahuel lo secuestraron en la frontera venezolana"
"Nahuel Gallo no es terrorista, es un ciudadano argentino"
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00:00This is the image of the Minister of Security, Patricia Woolrich.
00:03Let's reiterate that Griselda Heredia, who is the mother of the gendarme, is also present.
00:08And Kevin, the brother, is also present.
00:11The sister-in-law is also present.
00:13There we are going to see you.
00:14And the governor of the province of Catamarca, Raúl Jalil, is also present.
00:18Well, what anguish the family must have, right?
00:21Because to be detained in that place, being a gendarme, in Venezuela,
00:28where there are a lot of political prisoners, just to give an opinion,
00:32different from Nicolás Maduro.
00:35There is Kevin, Rooster, the mother, Patricia Woolrich,
00:42Gerardo Bertin, the chancellor, another of the relatives too,
00:47and the director of the gendarmerie, we see him there.
00:54And Jalil, Raúl Jalil, who is also at the tip of the table.
01:00Well, Bertin speaks.
01:04Good afternoon to all.
01:08Well, we have held a meeting with the family,
01:10to which we have informed them of all the actions that have been taken.
01:15Some of them, as you know, are public,
01:18others are not, due to all the work that is being done.
01:25We have received an official letter from Venezuela through Brazil,
01:32in which they manifest that Nahuel is detained under judicial process,
01:39that his physical and psychological integrity is in perfect condition,
01:46and that he is in full respect of his human rights,
01:51for what this may mean in a country like Venezuela.
01:55Subsequently, another statement was received today,
01:59in which the prosecutor manifests a series of facts that are false,
02:08in which they accuse Nahuel of being part of a conspiracy,
02:11and I think this will be referred to later in the meeting.
02:34Now yes?
02:35Yes.
02:36From the first moment, we have developed a joint action with Minister Bullrich,
02:43and we have tried to communicate through different channels,
02:51whether countries or people,
02:55and finally I think that as a result of all these joint actions that we have carried out,
03:03Nahuel went from being kidnapped in an illicit way,
03:08from an unknown whereabouts, to being recognized by the government.
03:14We continue to work with the same intensity.
03:20I want to tell you that we are working a lot through Brazil,
03:23and that Brazil is cooperating a lot in each of the issues.
03:28He is in charge of our embassy,
03:30and he provides all the assistance that the Venezuelan government allows,
03:36and that so far has not allowed.
03:38We are working through our people to provide legal services to Nahuel.
03:47So, in a very difficult situation, complicated for the whole family,
03:54I think that Argentina is doing, starting with the President,
03:59and continuing with the Minister and me,
04:02all the efforts to be able to end this,
04:07that this is a big lie,
04:09this is a big fallacy of a young family member who works in the gendarmerie,
04:19and everything else is a horrible invention.
04:22Patricia.
04:24Well, thank you very much.
04:27On the one hand, we are a little calmer
04:33because of what the Chancellor just said,
04:38of having received a message from the person in charge of Argentine affairs,
04:47which is that the recognition,
04:50the transfer of a missing person to a prisoner who is under trial.
05:00We are now going to describe how Nahuel is being tried,
05:06and there we want to be very firm
05:08regarding what Mr. Tarek William Saab,
05:12the Attorney General of the Republic of Venezuela,
05:17says in this communication, and lies openly.
05:22First lie of Mr. Tarek William Saab.
05:28He says that he is informed that he has been arrested
05:33for trying to enter irregularly the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela.
05:38Nahuel Gallo entered with all the legal papers,
05:43he did all the procedures he had to do in the gendarmerie,
05:48and all the procedures that had to be done in the Bolivarian Republic,
05:54even paying the fees that had to be paid.
05:57That is, his entry was total and absolutely legal.
06:01What was not legal was the way in which he was kidnapped
06:06at the border.
06:09That is the illegality.
06:11The first answer that we have to give to Mr. Tarek William Saab.
06:17Secondly,
06:20The second...
06:22Audio.
06:23Sound, please.
06:25Audio.
06:34Hiding
06:39the real criminal plan under the guise of a sentimental view.
06:46Nahuel has his girlfriend and his son.
06:52His main objective was to visit his son
06:57while he had the annual license granted by the gendarmerie.
07:04He arrived on the 5th and returned on the 30th.
07:06He had a return flight and a return flight.
07:09He had all the procedures done.
07:12He had the address where he was going to stay
07:15and he had the gifts for his son,
07:20whom he needed to see
07:23for what the relationship between a father and a son means.
07:28So this, that there is sentimental clothing,
07:32is another lie of this Mr. Tarek William Saab.
07:37That Nahuel had links with people, with groups
07:42that tried from the territory to have support with far-right groups.
07:48Nahuel is a gendarme.
07:52The gendarmes have totally and absolutely forbidden
07:56political activity.
07:58They can't do politics.
08:00No gendarme has political relations.
08:03So this is also a lie.
08:06That he was going to do destabilizing and terrorist actions.
08:10He went with his suitcase to visit his son,
08:14to whom he was wearing an Argentine shirt,
08:18and he went with the will of a father to see his son.
08:23What terrorist action can go and do a terrorist act?
08:29What terrorist action can go and do
08:33a person who enters through a legal border
08:36with all the documents,
08:38in the place where he is going to go,
08:40in the place where he is going to be,
08:42in the place where his son is?
08:44Really, another lie.
08:49He says that the statements made by the Argentine government
08:53using the relatives of the accused,
08:56as well as the judicial resolution
08:58made by the Federal Chamber of Mendoza,
09:01show the complicity of the authorities
09:05of that nation with the subversive plans.
09:08Argentina has claimed,
09:11by the recognition of Nahuel
09:13and the release of Nahuel,
09:15and this is what we tell Tarek Saab at this moment,
09:18at this moment,
09:20we want Nahuel Gallo
09:23to be returned to Argentina immediately.
09:27What is the relationship with the family?
09:30To contain it, to tell it,
09:33and the gendarmerie at the head,
09:36is containing the family of a gendarme.
09:42That the Federal Chamber of Mendoza
09:45has been in a conspiracy,
09:48the Federal Chamber of Mendoza
09:50asked the concrete things
09:52that a state of law asks,
09:54it said, where is Nahuel?
09:56In what prison is he?
09:58Let someone come in to see him.
10:02We want consular services to be able to visit him.
10:07The things that any justice
10:10claims from a citizen of his country.
10:16Every citizen of a country
10:18has the right to these basic principles
10:22that make up a state of law.
10:25That is why what we see here
10:29is a prejudgment from Venezuela
10:35wanting to put Nahuel
10:38as part of an ultra-right organization
10:42that has nothing to do with reality.
10:45That is why we answer him paragraph by paragraph
10:48to Mr. Tarek William Saab
10:51to know that Argentina,
10:53from our president,
10:55our chancellor,
10:56all our government,
10:57the National Gendarmerie
10:59and the family,
11:00we cannot or will not accept
11:04that Nahuel Gallo is a terrorist.
11:07Nahuel Gallo is an Argentine citizen
11:11who was not like a gendarme,
11:13he was like a father.
11:15And that is also important to say.
11:21What the minister says,
11:24one can evaluate what countries do
11:27by their actions.
11:29All the detainees,
11:31without information,
11:33there are detainees from different countries,
11:35more than eleven.
11:37So this is a usual practice
11:40that this country uses
11:42to legitimately accuse people
11:45to have them in their power as hostages.
11:48In any case,
11:50we will continue working
11:52and waiting to bring Nahuel home
11:56as soon as possible.
11:58So, in some way,
12:01this illegitimacy has to end.
12:04It is incredible
12:06that a country
12:08in which there is no human right,
12:12none of any kind,
12:15where it is public and notorious
12:17and international organizations,
12:20we can name a dozen of them,
12:22have proven
12:24that all this
12:27is being done in a way
12:29and with an incredible impunity,
12:31sometimes
12:33we are worried about silence.
12:36We know what that is in Argentina.
12:38And the silence
12:40against a fragrant violation
12:42of human rights,
12:44as it happens daily
12:46in Venezuela,
12:48as it happens in prisons.
12:50This man, Tarek Soap,
12:52has no authority
12:54to say a word
12:56because he is the one
12:58responsible for allowing
13:00these human rights violations
13:02to children,
13:04to men and women.
13:07He is responsible
13:09for allowing the extortion
13:11and illegitimate accusations
13:13to humble people
13:15like the driver
13:17of our embassy,
13:19who has been kidnapped
13:21and accused
13:23of a series of charges
13:25by a man
13:27whose only job
13:29is to be a driver
13:31and perhaps to help
13:33feed the refugees
13:35we have in the embassy.
13:37It seems to me
13:39that this man
13:41is responsible for
13:43all that is happening
13:45in Venezuela.
13:47Thank you very much.
14:11The official notification
14:13that we have received
14:15from the government
14:17of Venezuela
14:19through Brazil
14:21does not mention
14:23its whereabouts.
14:25Chancellor, good afternoon.
14:27You said at the beginning
14:29that you are working
14:31with countries and people.
14:33In addition to Brazil,
14:35what countries and people
14:37are actively working
14:39against the quality
14:41of the negotiations?
14:43In this case, discretion
14:45leads to management.
14:47I would like to be able
14:49to do it, but in safeguarding
14:51the work we are doing,
14:53we believe that it is better
14:55to keep this in discretion.
14:57Good afternoon to everyone.
14:59Nicolás Erwin for UNIFE.
15:01How is the situation
15:03against Oscar Laborde,
15:05the former Argentine ambassador
15:07to Brazil?
15:09How does the process
15:11continue?
15:15Laborde
15:17helped
15:19to make
15:21this announcement.
15:23All the things
15:25Laborde said
15:27are reflected in this announcement.
15:29He said
15:31that
15:33he had not
15:35followed the papers
15:37in the right way.
15:39It is a total and absolute lie.
15:41You may have seen
15:43that yesterday
15:45all the papers
15:47were published
15:49in the right way.
15:51Absolutely all of them.
15:53This helped
15:55to generate
15:57this false accusation
15:59against Anahuel.
16:01On the other hand,
16:03he started to raise
16:05and meddle
16:07in situations
16:09saying that the path
16:11chosen,
16:13the situation
16:15where he had been,
16:17and that it was also
16:19part of a conspiracy.
16:21Mr. Laborde
16:23works
16:25for the Chavista regime.
16:27We work for the Argentines
16:29and to defend
16:31an Argentine citizen
16:33who is also a gendarme
16:35who has just been
16:37recognized by luck
16:39for the peace of the family
16:41of all the gendarmerie,
16:43of all the Argentines,
16:45but who is being accused
16:47of something he did not do.
16:49And we, as a country
16:51that fulfills the rule of law,
16:53will not allow
16:55a man who was
16:57an ambassador,
16:59who represented Argentina
17:01at some point,
17:03to be part of the lies
17:05of the regime
17:07and give arguments
17:09to the regime against Anahuel.
17:11That is why
17:13we carry forward
17:15this accusation.
17:17How is the accusation?
17:19Well, it was up to Judge Rafecas
17:21to do what he had to do
17:23as a judge.
17:25We did what we had to do
17:27as a Ministry of Security,
17:29as a Chancellery, as a Government
17:31and as a Gendarmerie.
17:33Because
17:35he is one of us
17:37and we are not going to hand him over.
17:41Good afternoon, Gabriel Sanfilippo
17:43from Radio 10.
17:45Chancellor, I would like to ask you,
17:47understanding that there is no consular office
17:49in Caracas,
17:51the legal representation of Anahuel,
17:53who is carrying it forward?
17:55I would like to know
17:57if there is any kind of legal assistance.
17:59Yes, of course.
18:01We have consular representation
18:03and consular services
18:05through Brazil.
18:07He is the one who has taken
18:09charge of our representation.
18:11Until now, Anahuel was a person
18:13disappeared by the Venezuelan regime.
18:15Yesterday,
18:17we received the communication
18:19where the regime
18:21recognizes him
18:23and from there,
18:25we can have legal services
18:27for a person recognized
18:29because until yesterday
18:31he was a disappeared person.
18:33So this is the current situation.
18:35Good afternoon, Minister,
18:37Chancellor, Governor and
18:39officials of the Anahuel Gallo family
18:41here in Rodrigo Jorge de Radio Mitre.
18:43The specific question for the Minister
18:45is if from this position,
18:47which is already an institutional position
18:49by the Argentine Republic,
18:51that Anahuel's process
18:53is not biased,
18:55that is to say that the accusation is false,
18:57if Argentina evaluates
18:59or has any possibility of resorting
19:01to international mechanisms,
19:03to different organizations
19:05or to countries that accompany
19:07the defense of the Gendarme,
19:09which from this I understand
19:11that it goes from being kidnapped
19:13to already being a detention,
19:15at least for Venezuela,
19:17a process justification,
19:19and if it is going to resort
19:21to the collaboration of other countries.
19:23Argentina is going to do everything
19:25it has to do,
19:27knock on all the doors
19:29it has to knock on,
19:31talk to all the countries,
19:33but we are now
19:35in this stage.
19:37The first stage achieved
19:39is that Mr. Saab
19:41has sent
19:43this false accusation,
19:45shows us
19:47that this
19:49was being prepared
19:51these days,
19:53that they did not recognize
19:55that Anahuel was really
19:57kidnapped.
19:59Also the importance
20:01of the note sent by Brazil.
20:03This is a first stage
20:05achieved,
20:07now what the Chancellor said,
20:09the services
20:11of those who can legally
20:13attend
20:15to Anahuel
20:17and the collaboration of Brazil
20:19with their consular services.
20:21The second stage
20:23we are going to communicate
20:25what can be communicated
20:27and we will be in contact
20:29with you
20:31according to how
20:33things develop,
20:35but we do not want to advance
20:37what actions
20:39we are going to take forward,
20:41but have the security
20:43that there will be no place
20:45where we are not going to go,
20:47where we are not going to resort,
20:49because our clear objective
20:51is to dismantle
20:53this
20:55staging
20:57of converting
20:59an Argentine citizen
21:01into a terrorist.
21:03Good afternoon,
21:05Marcelo Pelé,
21:07I want to expand
21:09what the Minister said.
21:11You have to know that
21:13an investigation is underway
21:15in the International Criminal Court
21:17where the absolutely
21:19illegitimate procedure
21:21of this prosecutor is being investigated.
21:23Argentina
21:25has already manifested it
21:27and we will continue to deepen it
21:29asking for immediate sanctions
21:31for this prosecutor
21:33and we are also working
21:35at the level of the Organization of American States
21:37and the Inter-American Court.
21:39These are all simultaneous processes
21:41that we can tell you,
21:43the other things we will keep
21:45as the Minister said
21:47for now with some discretion.
21:49I wanted to ask the mother of Nahuel
21:51if she is satisfied
21:53with all the explanations and precision
21:55that the Argentine government gave her
21:57and secondly, what message
21:59do you want to convey to the Maduro regime
22:01because perhaps these words of yours
22:03today here will reach Miraflores in Caracas.
22:05Well, from there
22:07it is hard
22:09as a mother
22:11it is hard as a mother
22:13to be accused of something
22:15that one as a mother knows
22:17that it is not like that
22:19and to ask the Lord to do what is possible
22:21that the papers look good
22:23as they said
22:25that everything is legal
22:27that is,
22:29Nahuel did nothing illegal
22:31and well, please ask him
22:33that it is not like that
22:35that they leave him
22:37that they let him come to Argentina
22:39as a last resort
22:41but well,
22:43it is a horrible situation
22:45and it is not easy
22:49I can't speak
22:57I never thought
22:59to live in this situation
23:01and even less with him
23:03that is,
23:05it was a decision of him
23:07to have gone for his son
23:09on his holidays
23:11that he deserves
23:13so well
23:15and if at some point
23:17my son is calm
23:19that the family is waiting for him
23:21that we are well
23:23and that we need to have him
23:25with us again
23:27and thank you very much
23:29to the
23:31chancellor
23:33to the
23:35Patricia
23:37to the government of Catamarca
23:39that thanks to them we are here
23:41and well
23:47Cecilia Dominguez
23:49one more, Cecilia Dominguez from CNN
23:51in Spanish
23:53I wanted to know if you have any indication
23:55information about what elements
23:57Venezuela would be worth
23:59to make this accusation
24:01against Nahuel Gallo
24:03and if at some point
24:05Venezuela manifested
24:07any intention to negotiate
24:09for its liberation
24:11and in that case
24:13the Argentine government
24:15would be willing to do it
24:17There is no element
24:19I explained it to you
24:21when I went paragraph by paragraph
24:23explaining the lies
24:25there is no element
24:27the only element
24:29is a strategy
24:31that Venezuela has
24:33to try
24:35to cover itself
24:37with innocent people
24:39to try to
24:41stay in power
24:43nothing more
24:45there is no element
24:47besides
24:49they talk about the papers
24:51if a person
24:53goes with a paper
24:55that is wrong
24:57what do they do?
24:59they throw it away?
25:01they send the same plane back to their country?
25:03that is a state of law
25:05it happens to us every day
25:07that Argentines are thrown away
25:09with their passport destroyed
25:11with some problem
25:13let's talk about papers
25:15what papers?
25:17it's all a lie
25:19it's all a setup
25:21I am a good person
25:23I am an Argentine gendarme
25:25that worked in Uspallata
25:27they say I worked in intelligence
25:29I worked in a pass
25:31in the pass Los Orcones
25:33in Uspallata
25:35where the gendarmerie
25:37has the obligation
25:39to take care of Argentines
25:41or Chileans
25:43or any citizen
25:45that cross that cross
25:47I lived there
25:49as a gendarme
25:51of security
25:53everything they are saying
25:55is a lie
25:57thank you
26:03there is the conference
26:05very obvious
26:07it is logical
26:09that it is so distressed
26:11in the hands
26:13of the political
26:15and military destiny
26:17of Argentina and Venezuela
26:19in a situation
26:21that is very complicated
26:23there we are with Diego de Nicolás
26:25there is the chancellor
26:27also talking to her
26:29surely to continue in communication
26:31all these days
26:33I don't know where she will be staying
26:35the mother will be here in the city of Buenos Aires
26:37let's see, can we open the cell phone
26:39they are talking
26:41Diego
26:43we are listening to you
26:45in front of the photographers
26:47they were
26:49coming down from the platform
26:51where the table was
26:53now they are
26:55trying to console
26:57the chancellor
26:59he gave her a hug
27:01because the blow was very hard
27:03for this lady
27:05not only the situation
27:07but to present herself publicly
27:09as she did recently
27:11yes, about
27:13what they should have offered her
27:15some of them
27:17because it is true
27:19in a negotiation
27:21with these characteristics
27:23there are things that cannot be told
27:25publicly, of course
27:27because it is part of a negotiation
27:29it happens all over the world
27:31in all political, military, economic areas
27:33and there are things
27:35that can be disseminated
27:37and others that are kept in reserve
27:39so as not to frustrate
27:41any type of negotiation
27:43even a commercial one
27:49I am referring to some phrases
27:51precisely
27:53false
27:55all the accusations
27:57that Nahuel Gallo has
27:59kidnapped
28:01the word kidnapped was used again
28:03hard-faced
28:05that Guillermo Bertin mentioned
28:11lies by Tarek Saab
28:13the general prosecutor
28:15of Venezuela
28:17according to Patricio Bullrich
28:19since Nicolas Gallo entered
28:21with all the correct papers
28:23he paid all the fees
28:27yes, they said
28:29he entered like
28:31Nahuel Gallo entered Venezuela
28:33as a father, not as a gendarme
28:35because he went to see his son
28:37and his partner
28:41and Bertin also
28:43told
28:45that there are detainees
28:47from 11 countries in Venezuela
28:49I did not know this figure
28:51detainees from 11 countries
28:53there in Venezuela
28:55it is worth seeing how long
28:57they have been detained there
28:59and the reasons for which
29:01some of them have been detained
29:03Brazil is the intermediary
29:05with the negotiations
29:07but never mentioned the whereabouts
29:09in this case of Gallo
29:11of Nahuel
29:13he asked for discretion
29:15towards the management
29:17that is being carried out
29:19that is why there are things
29:21that cannot communicate
29:23or give information
29:25and accused Patricio Bullrich
29:27Oscar Laborde
29:29ex-ambassador
29:31there in Venezuela
29:33ex-ambassador
29:35he helped
29:37the communique
29:39he helped
29:41the communique
29:43he helped
29:45the communique
29:47and he works for the Chavista regime
29:49he directly accused
29:51Oscar Laborde
29:53the ex-ambassador
29:55in Venezuela
29:57I never understood
29:59what he wanted to do
30:01he wanted to manage
30:03on his own
30:05obviously
30:07he did not like his methods
30:09or he did not like
30:11that he did it without authorization
30:13what Patricio Bullrich is saying
30:15is that the foundations
30:17of Laborde's intervention
30:19allowed Venezuela
30:21to end up generating this process
30:23and this writing
30:25anyway, what Patricio Bullrich
30:27put in value
30:29with his recent conference
30:31is the fact that
30:33the imprisonment of Gallo
30:35Gallo stops being
30:37a missing person, a kidnapped person
30:39he starts having a legal status
30:41that is not a minor thing
30:43legal is a way of saying it in Venezuela
30:45ok, but it exists
30:47there is a public document that says
30:49this man is in jail for this reason
30:51we will see the rest later
30:53ok
30:55we are going to talk a lot more about this
30:57and about the tasks
30:59that the National Security Ministry
31:01is carrying out