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00:00In the name of Allah, the most Gracious, the most Merciful, I am Anika Nisar with the
00:14program Aitraaz-e-Haq.
00:15Viewers, on one hand, there is talk of negotiations and negotiations are going on.
00:18What is going to happen on 2nd January?
00:20In this regard, two different opinions are found in Pakistan Muslim League Noon.
00:24Today, very clearly, the senior leaders of PMLN admitted the division among themselves.
00:30And they admitted in such a way that the speeches were coming completely different.
00:33Before this, there were news of two different opinions circulating in the government.
00:37Today, two branches have really come forward.
00:40Khawaja Saad Rafiq and Nana Sanaullah were very clearly seen in favor of negotiations.
00:47Firstly, this is a matter of negotiations.
00:49This should be successful.
00:50Now, let's see what is the way out of this problem.
00:53Think about how to bring Pakistan back on track.
00:56If this is not done, there will be a lot of loss.
00:59No one can bury anyone in politics.
01:01If the negotiations have to be successful, we want to make them successful with all sincerity.
01:07Khawaja Saad Rafiq has taken seven names.
01:10If three more names are included in this, then I say that the floods that have been
01:15surrounding this country for 70 years can end in 70 days.
01:19The name of Mian Nawaz Sharif should be there.
01:21The name of Imran Khan should also be there.
01:24And in these names, the name of Asif Ali Zardari should also be there.
01:30So, names are being given.
01:31The names of the leaders and founders of three big political parties are being given.
01:35So, on the other hand, the problem is that some of the leaders of their own PMLN are not
01:41in agreement that there should be negotiations.
01:44Or any meaningful result of the negotiations can also come out.
01:48Khawaja Asif has said very honestly that there should be negotiations or not.
01:54Let's listen to the question.
01:55How is he talking?
02:19A person should be told with whom he has been loyal.
02:21It should not be used.
02:22I am giving you a warning.
02:24All the power centers should be involved in the negotiations.
02:27This is not the capacity of the politicians alone.
02:29We politicians, at some point in time, everyone has used some or the other trick.
02:35Absolutely.
02:36Everyone is naked in this process.
02:40It is very interesting that he is saying that all the power centers should be involved
02:43in these negotiations.
02:44Power centers means judiciary or establishment.
02:48But before this, the establishment has said very clearly.
02:51In fact, yesterday itself, in the press briefing of DG ISPR, they have said that we will not
02:56be a part of this discussion in any way.
02:59Does the PMLN have this feeling that if the establishment is not a part of this discussion,
03:04then it will not be a good result.
03:06But even before this, Shahid Khan Abbas, the former Prime Minister of Pakistan, has
03:10said in my program that such discussions, until or unless they are not directly discussed
03:17with Mr. Imran Khan, have not had any result in the past.
03:20And it is possible that this will happen in the future as well.
03:22What is done with the committee?
03:24What authority does the committee have?
03:26The PTI itself used to make a committee here.
03:28Discussions used to take place.
03:29And then they used to say that Mr. Khan will not agree.
03:31Whatever discussions you had, 2-4-5 days a week, 2-3 days a week.
03:34You are talking out of experience.
03:36I have spoken not once, but 2-3 times.
03:39So, the government...
03:47Now, on the one hand, there are discussions.
03:49On the other hand, Shibli Faraz is saying that we are the people who have been mistreated.
03:53Despite that, we are going towards discussions.
03:56Useless cases have been made by the government on the guidelines of Pakistan's judicial system.
04:09From Imran Khan to the workers below, they have been involved in political cases.
04:15We will take the answers to this complaint.
04:17With us is Mr. Hanif Abbasi, the senior leader of PMLN.
04:20And then I will play the part of Mr. Bilawal Bhutto Zardari.
04:24What did he say?
04:25His complaints are also going on.
04:26But first, let's talk about this discussion.
04:28Mr. Hanif Abbasi, thank you very much for joining me in the program.
04:30It's a pleasure having you.
04:31Mr. Abbasi, first, let's leave everything.
04:33I have heard that there is a dispute in the cabinet.
04:36And you are becoming a minister.
04:37First, let's talk about this.
04:38I have also heard these news in the media like you.
04:42So, I don't have any excuse.
04:44Nor am I waiting.
04:46Okay?
04:47You are not waiting.
04:48You don't have any excuse.
04:49But have you been told this?
04:51No, I don't have any excuse.
04:52Nor am I waiting.
04:53Nor has anyone told me.
04:54Okay.
04:55So, whatever decisions are made by the party,
04:58I have been making them for 20 years.
05:00And I am with the party's decisions.
05:02I don't have that habit.
05:03But you didn't say no for sure.
05:04No, you can't say no for sure.
05:06In any work, the leadership that you are assigned,
05:11how can you say no for that?
05:13But I am sitting here waiting for the letter.
05:18There is no such situation.
05:19And no one has told me.
05:21But this is not out of impossibility.
05:23It is out of possibility.
05:24Why not?
05:25Everyone else is there.
05:26I am also sitting here.
05:28But I am not waiting for that.
05:31I am repeating this again and again.
05:33And by the grace of Allah,
05:35the service that I have done for the people of Rawalpindi,
05:39whether in power or in opposition,
05:43I am satisfied with that.
05:45Right.
05:46Now let's come to the discussions.
05:47Did you hear?
05:48Mr. Rana and Mr. Khawaja are talking about one thing.
05:50Mr. Khawaja Asif is talking about something else.
05:52He is saying, I am saying.
05:53What kind of a person are you?
05:54I don't look at anyone and talk.
05:57This is my record.
05:59I am not sitting on television today.
06:01I have been sitting since 2003.
06:03When there used to be two channels.
06:05One for you and one for someone else.
06:07Right.
06:08In all these channels,
06:10I have always been clear and crystal in my matter.
06:13Wherever I stand, people know that I am standing.
06:16My mind is in Pakistan.
06:19I don't compromise in terms of its peace.
06:22My power should go.
06:24My life should go.
06:25I love Pakistan.
06:27Because I have seen the world.
06:28We go into the world.
06:30We don't get the satisfaction in the world
06:32that we get in our country.
06:33When I took life imprisonment,
06:35I preferred to live in this country.
06:38I didn't run away.
06:39I took life imprisonment in this country.
06:41I was imprisoned in three jails.
06:43When I was being imprisoned for life,
06:45I didn't let anyone abuse me.
06:48I didn't let anyone set fire to me.
06:50Because I knew that I had to take relief from this system.
06:53Unfortunately, what you have said,
06:56that if you want to negotiate with those people
07:01who have attacked the peace of Pakistan,
07:04then why are you crying?
07:06For the past 10 months, 11-12 months,
07:09you have been saying 9th May, 9th May.
07:11In fact, it has been more than a year.
07:12It has been a year and a half.
07:13You have been saying 9th May, 9th May.
07:15So you are saying that there should be no negotiations.
07:17No.
07:18As long as,
07:20I have been coming to your programs before.
07:23As long as the culprits,
07:26the conspirators,
07:28the children who have been caught,
07:30who has polluted their minds?
07:32Tell me.
07:33Who has done it?
07:34The same person who prepares the suicides.
07:36The same person who prepares the suicides.
07:39Then there is a handler,
07:40then there is a facilitator.
07:41Then he goes and blasts.
07:43He is shown 72 bullets.
07:45So these four of our soldiers who have been martyred,
07:48the rangers,
07:49there were three earlier,
07:50the fourth was also martyred,
07:51who was injured.
07:52The child who crushed them,
07:55what statement has he given?
07:57The statement he has given is that
07:59I was affected by the speeches of Bani PTI.
08:05That is, his speeches and statements were these.
08:07But in the last year and a half,
08:09didn't he say this?
08:10Didn't he go against Mian Washiq later?
08:12Didn't he go against Hanif Abbasi Shabashiq later?
08:14What happened later?
08:16Mir Jafar, Mir Sadiq, Dirty Harry,
08:19okay, he ate, he did, he did.
08:22And then when I am arrested,
08:24then I have to attack here and there.
08:26And you will see that people were meeting from inside too.
08:28Mr. Mir Jafar, I am sorry, I am cutting you short.
08:30But if you say something,
08:31and on the basis of your statement,
08:33if someone else takes action,
08:35then should you face the consequences of that?
08:38Absolutely.
08:39If Mr. Imran Khan is saying something,
08:41and someone else is doing the work,
08:42then what is their fault?
08:43Then why do you catch the mastermind of the suicider?
08:47Then why do you catch the mastermind of the suicider?
08:49The people behind him are involved.
08:51They are involved.
08:53They are involved.
08:54They are speeches.
08:55They are speeches.
08:56Isn't it different?
08:57No, no.
08:58Anika, we should not confuse our people.
09:01There is an attack at 250 places at a time.
09:05This is the grace of Allah.
09:07We are talking about 9th May.
09:08Yes, 9th May.
09:09What do you show to the world?
09:12I am talking about 26th November.
09:14Let's mix it up.
09:15Before that, let's talk about 2014.
09:18You get people ready.
09:20You attack the PTV.
09:22You say, let me go this far.
09:24The Interior Minister at that time said,
09:26no, don't go any further.
09:28He said, no, we will go.
09:29It will be a peaceful protest.
09:30He gives permission.
09:31You enter the PTV and set it on fire.
09:34You break the wall of the Parliament House.
09:36You attack the Supreme Court.
09:39You go to the door of the PM House and hit the sticks.
09:42You hit the people of the Law Enforcement Forces on the ground.
09:49You come on 9th May.
09:52Before that, you attack Islamabad three times.
09:55After that, you attack on 26th November.
09:59How do you attack?
10:00By wearing a shroud.
10:02With all the government resources,
10:05with cranes, vehicles, weapons, shells,
10:10and you come here and attack the rangers,
10:14the constables.
10:16His point of view is a little different.
10:18His point of view is that we didn't do anything.
10:21Our people have been martyred.
10:23We have been oppressed by the PTI.
10:25Have you heard of Shibli Prakash?
10:26He says, we are basically the ones who do all the work.
10:29Look, they are playing the most dangerous game.
10:32They are playing the dangerous game in the hands of the enemy.
10:35How are they playing?
10:36Which enemy?
10:37Aghyar, who supports BLA in Pakistan,
10:41who supports Khawarij.
10:42Who supports them?
10:43They support Bani PTI.
10:45Let it be, I am not a responsible person.
10:47Any other country?
10:48The same kid who tells America,
10:51that Pakistan's missile program is not for me,
10:54it is dangerous for you.
10:56The same kid,
10:58for the same kid,
11:00Bani PTI is playing all the games.
11:03But Pakistan is neither Syria,
11:06nor Iraq,
11:07nor Libya.
11:08Now we were talking about negotiations.
11:10Everyone has their own point of view.
11:13My point of view,
11:14while living in the government,
11:16my point of view is that
11:17as long as you don't catch the masterminds of 9th May
11:21and the conspirators,
11:23then you will be oppressing these kids.
11:25Then tell me one thing.
11:26You will be oppressing them.
11:27Do you understand this?
11:28But if you catch them too,
11:29listen,
11:30then their punishments should also be kept out
11:32so that no one has the courage
11:34to attack Pakistan's defence installations,
11:37or Radio Pakistan,
11:39or PTV,
11:41or Parliament.
11:42Tell me,
11:43these negotiations will only be successful
11:45when, like Khawaja Asif is saying,
11:47all the political parties should be added.
11:50The establishment also comes here.
11:52Did you listen to the press briefing of DJI and SPR yesterday?
11:54They said,
11:55let the politicians work together,
11:56this is a good thing.
11:57But we are not a part of this.
11:58So Khawaja is saying,
12:00until then no negotiations,
12:01until everyone is not added.
12:03You are saying that
12:04there should be no negotiations,
12:05there is no benefit.
12:06So this PMLN is divided,
12:07so what is the benefit of negotiations?
12:09When did I say that there will be a benefit?
12:11Or when did we go to Minterla
12:13to come and negotiate with us?
12:15We did not go.
12:17We did not go and say,
12:19come sir,
12:20we are sitting and waiting for you.
12:22They did Minterla.
12:24Sometimes they went to the Speaker House,
12:26sometimes they went to the Speaker Chamber,
12:28sometimes they knocked on such and such doors,
12:30they said,
12:31such and such is a very good man,
12:32he will make us negotiate.
12:33If they do so many Minterla,
12:35even if they do BLA,
12:36even if they do foreign,
12:37even if they do India,
12:38then Pakistan will have to negotiate with them too.
12:41But Abbas,
12:42the problem is that
12:43before this,
12:44till now,
12:45they were 24,
12:4625,
12:4726.
12:48The problem is,
12:49listen to me.
12:50And along with that,
12:51they are doing civil disobedience.
12:52And they are saying
12:53that we will go beyond this too.
12:54See.
12:55And you are saying
12:56they are doing Minterla for negotiations.
12:57See,
12:58I am again saying
12:59that Mian Nawaz Sharif
13:00was removed from office
13:01three times.
13:02He did not say
13:03to the IMF and World Bank
13:04that we will not help Pakistan.
13:05He did not say
13:06to the IMF and World Bank
13:07that we will go outside
13:08and protest.
13:09He did not say
13:10that we will not send money
13:11from outside
13:12to Pakistan.
13:13He did not say
13:14that we will not collect electricity bills.
13:15He did not say
13:16that we will not collect taxes.
13:17He never said that.
13:18We never said that.
13:19What happened to them?
13:20See,
13:21what happened to us
13:22is that
13:23we were not
13:24able to
13:25convince
13:26a person
13:27whose name
13:28is Hamza Shahbaz
13:29who has been
13:30jailed the most.
13:31Then,
13:32before the election,
13:33you sent Mian Muhammad Nawaz Sharif
13:34to jail
13:35and his daughter
13:36to jail.
13:37You sent his son-in-law
13:38to jail
13:39and I went.
13:40Four people
13:41were in jail.
13:42I was imprisoned
13:43for 25 years.
13:4425 years.
13:45That judge
13:46did not fear God.
13:47He was
13:48the same kind of judge
13:49who hanged
13:50Zulfiqar Ali Batto
13:5153 years ago.
13:52And today,
13:53the same Supreme Court
13:54is saying
13:55to listen.
13:56The same Supreme Court
13:57is saying
13:58that this is
13:59an atrocity.
14:00Zulfiqar Ali Batto
14:01will not come back.
14:02You see,
14:03at that time,
14:04no one's conscience
14:05will wake up.
14:06Now,
14:07what is happening
14:08is that
14:09from Gutto
14:10to the Sicilian Mafia
14:11and I don't know
14:12what other words
14:13have been used.
14:14And those people
14:15today,
14:16there is another
14:17Chief Justice,
14:18Justice Zahid Jamali
14:19he says
14:20that in the Panama case,
14:21Mian Muhammad Nawaz Sharif
14:22was removed
14:23wrongly.
14:24Okay,
14:25that Gutto
14:26was removed
14:27wrongly.
14:28Mian Muhammad Nawaz Sharif
14:29was removed
14:30wrongly.
14:31So,
14:32what is happening
14:33is getting better.
14:34Absolutely.
14:35You see,
14:36he was saying
14:37that I should
14:38be shown
14:39footages.
14:40Footages should
14:41be presented.
14:42So,
14:43every person
14:44who has been
14:45punished,
14:46the footage
14:47is running
14:48with them,
14:49right?
14:50If someone is
14:51breaking the
14:52Shauda Majlis.
14:53They are still
14:54asking for footage.
14:55But there is
14:56a difference
14:57between the
14:58military court
14:59and the
15:00civil court.
15:01I will answer
15:02this.
15:03I will answer
15:04this.
15:05The London
15:06protest
15:07that was
15:08punished
15:09night and
15:10day,
15:11was given
15:12on the
15:13basis of
15:14footages,
15:15not on the
15:16basis of
15:17any
15:18judicial
15:19commission.
15:20So,
15:21the 2021
15:22Capitol Hill
15:23attack,
15:24was given
15:25on the
15:26basis of
15:27footages.
15:28Now,
15:29you will
15:30say that
15:31you will
15:32have to go
15:33through this
15:34circle.
15:35I will
15:36come to
15:37that later.
15:38First,
15:39I will
15:40have to
15:41go through
15:42the military
15:43court.
15:44You will
15:45say that
15:46you will
15:47also have
15:48to go
15:49through
15:50the military
15:51court.
15:52I have
15:53to
15:54go
15:55through
15:56the
15:57military
15:58court.
15:59I
16:00have
16:01to
16:02go
16:03through
16:04the
16:05military
16:06court.
16:07I
16:08have
16:09to
16:10go
16:11through
16:12the
16:13military
16:14court.
16:15I
16:16have
16:17to go
16:18through
16:19the
16:20military
16:21court.
16:22You
16:23will
16:24have
16:25to
16:26go
16:27through
16:28the
16:29military
16:30court.
16:31I
16:32have
16:33to
16:34go
16:35through
16:36the
16:37military
16:38court.
16:39You
16:40have
16:41to
16:42go
16:43through
16:44the
16:45military
16:46court.
16:47I
16:48have
16:49to
16:50go
16:51So when you support this type of act of yours, when you support this type of extremism that we call fitna tul khawarij, when you support fitna tul siyasat,
17:02then those kids don't come in front of you.
17:04You have talked about fitna tul khawarij, but have you talked about the Mod Squad?
17:08Or the people who came on the 24th, they were not the Mod Squad who came with the PTI, who came in protest, they were not the Mod Squad.
17:14Listen to me, they were extremists and they were based on extremism.
17:20What did they bring? Didn't you see a weapon? Didn't you see a shell? Didn't you see a shell gun?
17:28But your narrative building is very weak, Mr. Hanif Abbasi.
17:32Their narrative is spread all over the place.
17:34No, their narrative is not strong.
17:37Look, they started lying to tell the human rights of the whole world.
17:42First their lie was that 10,000 people are missing.
17:46Then it came to 8,000 and then to 6,000.
17:49Then it came to 4,000 and then to 2,000.
17:51Then the Chief Minister Ali Amin Ghandapur came out of the jail and said that 54 people are missing.
17:56Then I went to a program and I said that 24 people have been released.
17:5910 are in Diyala and 10 are in Attock.
18:0120 have been released.
18:02No one is missing.
18:03After that they said that 2,000 people have been killed.
18:06And rivers of blood flowed.
18:08Who did they show that fake?
18:12Those human rights organizations who do not see oppression in Kashmir,
18:17who do not see children in Ghaza,
18:19who do not see oppression in Syria, Iraq or even Yemen.
18:24Tell me, according to you, their lie is so strong that the international community is accepting it.
18:30Your truth is so weak that the international community is not listening to it.
18:35You gave me a full task.
18:38This is a complete plan.
18:40And this is not today's plan.
18:42This is the same plan as I said earlier about the situation in Syria.
18:48In the same way, Pakistan is an atomic power.
18:51Do you know when was the first Israeli attack on the atomic reactor in Iraq?
18:57In 1979.
18:59At that time, the Prime Minister said that Pakistan is going to make an Islamic bomb.
19:06Today he is saying that the missiles are coming to him.
19:11So what is he doing?
19:13There was a front line between Iran and Israel.
19:18It was a support.
19:19It is over.
19:20What are you saying, Mr. Imran Khan?
19:22They have puppets.
19:23100%.
19:24100%.
19:25I have no doubt.
19:27I have no doubt.
19:28I have no doubt.
19:30But I have already mentioned the California plan.
19:33I will do it everywhere.
19:34And someone says to me, why didn't you tell me before?
19:37Tell me when it happened.
19:38I said that when the attack was going to happen, people had to believe that a plan was made in California.
19:43That you bring me back to power.
19:45Bring me back to power.
19:47I will freeze the atomic program of Pakistan.
19:56Or I will roll back.
19:57Or I will follow your orders.
19:59Okay.
20:00What is Mr. Imran Khan talking about?
20:02Mr. Imran Khan had expressed this many times in his speeches.
20:07But the problem is that you were also called a friend of Modi.
20:12It was said by Bilal Bhutto Zardari.
20:14Then Mr. Maulana also told Mr. Imran Khan.
20:17Isn't this a part of our politics?
20:19No, no, no.
20:20Mr. Javed Lati is right.
20:23No, Mr. Javed Lati is right.
20:25Apple, apple and what do you call it?
20:27Orange.
20:28You can't mix apple and orange like this.
20:30Apple will remain apple and orange will remain orange.
20:32My request is that, look, I am talking in front of you.
20:36Why did the Swat operation happen?
20:38Just think about it.
20:39We are also being tried to establish the government of groups sitting outside.
20:44Billions of dollars have been invested in Balochistan.
20:47Even in KPK.
20:49Today, when people were attacked from Afghanistan.
20:52And 16 of our youth were martyred.
20:54Why don't you mention them?
20:56Why don't you mention them?
20:58Let's stop right here.
21:28Yesterday, there was a statement of DGISPR.
21:30I have to keep it in front of you.
21:31But we have to go to the break.
21:32We will come back after the break and we will continue.
21:37Welcome back after the break.
21:39Before going to the break, you were talking about Fitnatul Khawarij.
21:42Yesterday, DGISPR said that they were brought back and re-populated.
21:47By 2021, terrorism had been eliminated.
21:49Now, the answer to that complaint has come.
21:51Let's hear it from Mr. Umar Ayub.
21:54General Bajwa had said that the end of every conflict or war is with negotiations.
22:00At the meeting of the National Security Committee, the Army Chief had said that
22:06this was not a decision by the Tehrik-e-Insaf government.
22:10On 5 July 2022, Pakistan was not the government of Tehrik-e-Insaf.
22:14We left the assembly.
22:16At that time, the Army Chief and the PDM government said that
22:19our negotiations are going on with DTP.
22:24First of all, he has an answer to his own question.
22:26He said that we had negotiated on behalf of a certain establishment.
22:32And he mentioned Mr. Bajwa. He was his father.
22:35You don't mention your father with disrespect.
22:37You call him your father.
22:38This is the first thing.
22:40No, no.
22:41First of all, we are bringing Faiz Ameer with us.
22:45The second thing is that you should take out the speeches of Bani PTA.
22:50How did they defend themselves to bring him back?
22:54Why did they bring him back?
22:56They are saying, don't put all the blame on us.
22:58You are also responsible.
22:59No, no, no.
23:00I am not saying this.
23:01There will be seven more people.
23:03There will be people in the establishment who will accept him.
23:06But the decision is always made by the political leadership.
23:11So, when you will be in power in the future,
23:14will you accept the decisions that will be made?
23:16And will you take responsibility?
23:18This is a very dangerous thing.
23:20This is a very dangerous thing.
23:22That they believed in their speeches.
23:24That they brought him back and settled him here.
23:28And they gave him a lot of attention.
23:30That this will be beneficial, this will be beneficial.
23:32These are our children.
23:33They were spoilt.
23:34You should take out their speeches.
23:35This is one thing.
23:36The second thing is how we as the political leadership
23:40want to push Pakistan towards instability.
23:45I say, don't send money into Pakistan.
23:48Don't do anything.
23:49Why are you saying this?
23:50Why are you saying this?
23:51The situation of the people of Pakistan right now,
23:53we should tell the people.
23:54If we keep telling them what the foreigners did,
23:56what this and that did.
23:58Eight months ago, inflation was 38%.
24:02In simple words, like an algebra question,
24:06inflation is 3% today.
24:10Your interest rate is 24%, 27%, 13%.
24:15And in the next three months, it will be on a single digit.
24:18Your foreign reserve has increased.
24:2235% of the people have sent more money here.
24:29You are basically saying that there is no point in you coming to the festival.
24:31Listen, listen.
24:32Keep listening.
24:34Your IT exports have increased.
24:37Despite the internet being shut down?
24:39Yes.
24:40IT exports have increased compared to last year.
24:43Textile exports have increased compared to last year.
24:45Five or six countries that had left Pakistan,
24:49let me name them.
24:50China, Turkey, UAE, Saudi Arabia,
24:54all of them are standing shoulder to shoulder with you.
24:57Today, someone is interested in derailing this government.
25:02If I don't do it,
25:04God forbid, if I don't do it,
25:06then I will be in deep trouble.
25:08Mr. Abbas,
25:09someone is interested in derailing the government.
25:12Are you saying this on the basis of a conspiracy?
25:15Considering that Bilawal Bhutto Zardari has made a statement.
25:18He said in his statement that PMLN's thought is different.
25:21They are stuck on motorways and roads.
25:23We are talking about internet connectivity.
25:25No, no, no.
25:26The conspiracy that I am talking about,
25:28is based on PTI,
25:29which makes a lot of noise.
25:30They want to give the government to them.
25:32We have seen this for the last four years.
25:35We have seen the condition of this country.
25:37CPAC ran away from here.
25:39Dost Malik ran away from here.
25:41Corruption was on the rise.
25:43Even today, if you look at it,
25:45KPK has no heir.
25:48The survey that has come out,
25:51which has been done by many international firms,
25:54Pakistanis have also done it.
25:55In terms of corruption,
25:57KPK has the biggest share.
25:59And Punjab has the smallest share.
26:03Who are you telling?
26:04If someone wants to derail the government,
26:06they can do it.
26:07Who are you telling?
26:09I am telling that conspiracy group,
26:11which expresses their desires.
26:13They will not derail the government.
26:14How will they derail the government?
26:15They think and express their desires.
26:18I am talking about their desires.
26:19Is there a possibility that their desires will be fulfilled?
26:23I can't see it from a distance.
26:25The remaining four years,
26:28there is a strategy of our world.
26:30There is a strategy that the person sitting on top does.
26:33There is no guarantee of that.
26:34He makes his own decisions.
26:36I want to say that the remaining four years of the current government,
26:41God willing,
26:43this is the year of Pakistan's construction and development.
26:46All of them together,
26:47the establishment is also a part of Pakistan,
26:50which shows the lives of its children.
26:53And at this time,
26:54the game that is being played in this country,
26:57there are walls in front of it.
26:59In the same way,
27:01I am saying again and again,
27:03don't remember those 16 martyrs,
27:05remember the pain of Afghanistan.
27:07You can guess from this.
27:09So in the next four years,
27:12you will complete the current government.
27:15And in this country,
27:17this is the situation of the economy at this time.
27:20Many times more than this.
27:21But tell me,
27:22why are your allies upset?
27:24He will only progress when the government will run.
27:26The government will run when the allies will be with it.
27:29Why are they upset?
27:30First of all,
27:31this small talk keeps going on at home.
27:34Small talk?
27:35When I was coming from home,
27:36there was also a talk going on there.
27:38Personal matters at home.
27:40No, no,
27:41this keeps going on.
27:42People's Party,
27:44MKM,
27:45see,
27:46we are all on the same boat.
27:48There is no distance between us.
27:49They don't agree.
27:50Hassan Murtaza is saying that
27:52PTI and Moonleak are two sides of the same coin.
27:55Let them listen.
27:56Let them listen.
27:57They don't agree,
27:59but I did the 26th amendment alone.
28:01I am not sitting alone in the Judicial Commission.
28:05Before that,
28:06He is not in the Cabinet.
28:08Before that,
28:09the committee that was formed on Judiciary,
28:11I am not sitting alone in that.
28:12Okay?
28:14I am not the Chairman of the Senate.
28:17I am not the President of Pakistan.
28:19I am not the Governor of Punjab.
28:20I am not the Governor of KPK.
28:22What I mean to say is
28:24that no one can fool us all together.
28:28If I am good,
28:30then we will take credit for it.
28:32If I am bad,
28:33discredit will come in our accounts.
28:35It will come in the accounts of the Peace Party.
28:37They don't agree.
28:38They don't agree.
28:39They say,
28:40what is your decision?
28:41Where is our account?
28:42I have just talked about the 26th amendment.
28:44I have talked about the Military Courts.
28:46Okay,
28:47but they are not in the Cabinet.
28:48They say,
28:49they are in the Government.
28:50Didn't the Pakistan Peace Party support the Military Courts?
28:53Didn't the Peace Party support the Judges and Chief Justices?
28:58All our commitments are on the same salary.
29:03So, Hasan Murtaza,
29:04what you are saying,
29:05I will talk about the salary later.
29:07Listen,
29:08we will work on the same salary.
29:09We will live happily.
29:10No problem.
29:11For five years.
29:12Okay,
29:13for the next four years,
29:14we will live together.
29:16No matter what.
29:17So,
29:18will this anger go away?
29:19It will go away.
29:20There are many demands in the house.
29:22There are many demands in the house.
29:25Inshallah,
29:26the Prime Minister...
29:27The Prime Minister,
29:28has run the 13th most difficult government in the PDM.
29:32Anika,
29:33please elaborate on this.
29:34Wasn't this his idea?
29:36What are you saying?
29:37Yes.
29:48What's your point?
29:49What's your point?
29:51Now,
29:52tell me,
29:53even if this government runs,
29:54will you keep Imran Khan in jail for the next five years?
29:57Or,
29:58are there any chances of him coming out?
29:59Look,
30:00I am saying the same thing.
30:01This decision,
30:02if we look at it from a worldly point of view...
30:04No,
30:05No,
30:06I don't see him coming out from a worldly point of view.
30:09Because of whom?
30:10As a result of the negotiations,
30:12can there be any change?
30:14Look,
30:15earlier,
30:16they used to say,
30:17absolutely not,
30:18we are slaves.
30:19Right?
30:20All these slogans have been suppressed.
30:22Can anything change after the 20th of January?
30:24After Donald Trump's inauguration?
30:25Listen to me,
30:26Pakistan is an independent country.
30:28If Pakistan,
30:29on its atomic program,
30:31from the time it started,
30:32Shaheed Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto founded it,
30:34Mian Muhammad Nawaz Sharif blasted it,
30:36a dictator came in between.
30:38No one imposed any restrictions.
30:41And,
30:42sorry,
30:43no one even thought,
30:44because this program,
30:46is not of any establishment or government,
30:49it is of this 24 crore people.
30:51And,
30:52it's protection...
30:53In 24 crore people,
30:54there are PTI voters.
30:55In 24 crore people,
30:56Imran Khan is also there.
30:57So,
30:58will they want the nuclear program to roll over?
31:00Mr. Bilawal,
31:01are you saying the same?
31:02The people sitting outside,
31:04the day it was sanctioned,
31:06if you look at their Twitter account,
31:08PTI has disconnected from them.
31:10It has always been like this.
31:12Bani PTI was tweeted from their own account.
31:15Do you remember?
31:16Do you remember or not?
31:17Do you remember?
31:18The one from East Pakistan?
31:19Yes, I remember.
31:20So,
31:21later on,
31:22it was retweeted from their Twitter account.
31:23So,
31:24they have no religion or faith,
31:25so,
31:26they can't be questioned.
31:27So,
31:28to end this confusion,
31:29will you get Imran Khan's political leaders
31:31to meet?
31:32That's it?
31:33We do meet.
31:34We have just met.
31:35We will meet tomorrow as well.
31:36We have just made one demand.
31:38That we should meet.
31:39I said,
31:40let's do it.
31:41I used to lead the traders.
31:43Musharraf had two.
31:44So,
31:45I was the president of the anti-sale sex movement.
31:47So,
31:48we have made big demands.
31:49If we catch 15-20 people,
31:51those demands,
31:52we forgot.
31:53We said,
31:54leave our 15 people.
31:55So,
31:56you are saying,
31:57PTI's demands will come.
31:58So,
31:59the point was,
32:00that we should meet.
32:01Now,
32:02clarify this.
32:03See,
32:04what is the demand here?
32:05That we should meet.
32:06So,
32:07we have made it happen.
32:08So,
32:09let me clarify this.
32:10On 2nd January,
32:11there will be a meeting
32:12of the Muzakirati team.
32:13In that,
32:14they will bring their demands.
32:15Which demands
32:16have a red line on them?
32:17That we don't have to
32:18listen to them
32:19in any way.
32:20You are asking me.
32:21I am not in favour of Muzakirat.
32:22Yes,
32:23but we are.
32:24No,
32:25even if we are,
32:26even if we are,
32:27we are the custodian
32:28of the house.
32:29All these moves
32:30are being made
32:31by the Speaker.
32:32Okay?
32:33And,
32:34his right hand.
32:35He is saying,
32:36I was just a bridge.
32:37Not just a bridge,
32:38he must have played
32:39a very good role
32:40in his own way
32:41as a custodian.
32:42Now,
32:43the Prime Minister
32:44has made a committee on that.
32:45It cannot be denied
32:46that why the Prime Minister
32:47has made a committee.
32:48As far as the demands
32:49are concerned,
32:50that we should
32:51release Bani PTI,
32:52release the people
32:53of 9th May,
32:54release the people
32:55of 26th November
32:56and release
32:57the murderers.
32:58Release the murderers
32:59of the constable
33:00who has died.
33:01Then,
33:02release all the murderers.
33:03Release all the thieves
33:04and robbers.
33:05Got your point.
33:06Thank you very much
33:07for joining me
33:08in the programme.
33:09It was a pleasure.
33:10Some very interesting
33:11things have come up.
33:12God willing,
33:13you will have
33:14more to say.
33:16Welcome back
33:17after the break.
33:18Pakistan People's Party
33:19and PTI
33:20and PMLN.
33:21Their own politics
33:22as an opposition
33:23and government
33:24is different.
33:25But,
33:26there are also
33:27many problems
33:28in the unity
33:29between the government.
33:30Bilawal Bhutto Zardari
33:31has openly
33:32expressed
33:33that the vision
33:34of PMLN
33:35is different.
33:36It is a motorway
33:37vision.
33:38It is a road vision.
33:39The youth of today
33:40need the internet
33:41and connectivity.
33:42They need employment
33:43which they can
33:44create
33:45with the internet.
33:46We will talk about
33:47this later.
33:48We have with us
33:49Mr. Kaira Kamar Zama
33:50from Pakistan People's Party.
33:51Thank you very much,
33:52Mr. Kaira.
33:53People's Party
33:54is different.
33:55PMLN's vision
33:56is different.
33:57There is tension
33:58in the vision.
33:59The promises
34:00have not been kept.
34:01In such a situation,
34:02will PMLN
34:03and PTI
34:04be able
34:05to work together?
34:06Because of the
34:07current situation,
34:08this decision
34:09has been made.
34:10No party
34:11has the right
34:12and the country
34:13is not ready
34:14for new elections.
34:15So,
34:16to move forward,
34:17a committee
34:18should be formed
34:19and we are
34:20supporting them.
34:21We have
34:22written a
34:23agreement
34:24on this.
34:25We have
34:26complained
34:27about this
34:28many times.
34:29We have
34:30met Mr.
34:31Zama
34:32in Punjab
34:33and we
34:34have
34:35repeatedly
34:36asked him
34:37to fulfil
34:38the promises
34:39he has
34:40written.
34:41Secondly,
34:42instead of
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42:08there being
42:09a debate
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42:11assembly
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42:13there being
42:14a debate
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42:16assembly
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42:18there being
42:19a debate
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42:21assembly
42:22and
42:23there being
42:24a debate
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42:26assembly
42:27and
42:28there being
42:29a debate
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42:31assembly
42:32and
42:33there being
42:34a debate
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42:36assembly
42:37and
42:38there being
42:39a debate
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42:41assembly
42:42and
42:43there being
42:44a debate
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42:46assembly
42:47and
42:48there being
42:49a debate
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42:51assembly
42:52and
42:53there being
42:54a debate
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42:56assembly
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42:58there being
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43:01assembly
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43:03there being