👉 La triste noticia de la partida del reconocido periodista argentino y fundador de Página 12, ha conmocionado a colegas y amigos cercanos. Conocido por su estilo innovador y disruptivo en el periodismo, Lanata dejó una huella imborrable en el sector. Su legado continúa siendo una referencia para las nuevas generaciones de periodistas.
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00:00How are you, Gustavo? Good afternoon.
00:05I'm very sad and very touched, because I had to tell Negro Oro.
00:11He was very surprised.
00:13Although we had spoken in the last few days,
00:16and we had exchanged some private information
00:20that I can't tell and that I won't talk about,
00:24I just had the confirmation of Jorge's departure.
00:28I told Negro and... I don't know.
00:33I think he fell to the floor.
00:35Tremendous, tremendous.
00:37You were very close friends,
00:40at work, but also in person.
00:43I had been very aware of him and his health in recent times.
00:48I want to go through some of the moments of that last meeting with you, Gustavo.
00:53But let me, because the information is still in development
00:56and there is confirmation of where he will be.
00:58Yes, please.
00:59Jorge Lanata will be seen in the Portean legislature.
01:02It is the information that is transcending.
01:05And they tell me that, obviously, inside the nosocomial, it is pure pain.
01:09When I asked this source if there was going to be any kind of message,
01:12which is what is expected, a message from the family,
01:15basically, for the moment, they tell me it is pure pain.
01:18It is confirmed that Jorge Lanata will be seen in the Portean legislature.
01:22So that's the information from the last moment, Bobby.
01:25Good, that confirmation.
01:26And tell me about that last meeting, Gustavo.
01:29When was it? How did you see it?
01:32I remember that we talked a while ago with you about this and you were excited.
01:35Yes, yes.
01:36Because there were things that...
01:37No, because I didn't see it well.
01:38Of course.
01:39I didn't see it well and we set up the cell phone to go out with Ángel de Brito.
01:45He had a huge breathing difficulty,
01:50with difficulty speaking.
01:52I was in a moment that, while I was setting up the cell phone,
01:54that he helped me sit down, I don't know, and we talked.
01:58And he said to me,
02:00I don't know if I'm going to get out of this.
02:02I said, no, if I see you, great, you have a divine sack,
02:05all colorful, that's what he used, those weird sacks.
02:09He said, no, no, no.
02:10This time I feel that the body is not holding it,
02:14it is not bearing it.
02:16He spoke to him very softly.
02:17Elba Marcovecchio was there, two or three meters away.
02:20His friend, assistant, driver and trusted man was there,
02:27with whom one, over the years,
02:30maintains a bond for being a close person, Jorge Lanata.
02:34And in that last interview, I didn't see it well.
02:38He had a huge breathing difficulty,
02:40but huge, huge, huge, huge.
02:42And we were in shock.
02:46We were in shock.
02:47We were no longer Elí de Vuelta.
02:50At some point, we had seen each other
02:52and we had talked about a particular topic.
02:55He always had humor, sarcasm,
02:59intelligence,
03:01teaching, he is a teacher.
03:04And...
03:06And he gave me a piece of advice,
03:11which we are going to keep as a good teacher,
03:15about what I do in the street,
03:17what I do when I am working for you.
03:21And he was very generous, very, very generous.
03:24Like the great true ones,
03:25he is a character who has also shared waters,
03:28it must be said.
03:29It is time to go through his lights and not his shadows,
03:32because in this you also have to be educated,
03:34pious and respectful with your memory
03:37and with all your loved ones.
03:39But he has shared waters in journalism,
03:41in some projects,
03:43even with certain political or ideological turns,
03:46that those who loved him at one time of his journalistic career
03:50did not want him so much in another,
03:52that he has also been, like every great character in the media,
03:57a creator and doer of great successes,
04:00great successes in graphics, radio and television,
04:04but also of great failures, of great projects
04:07that have also left many people angry on the way.
04:11And so are these characters.
04:13When you go around, you find the history of cinema,
04:16of the big shots, of the history of journalism,
04:20and you go to fiction and find a Citizen Kane.
04:23And they are complex characters,
04:26great doers of many issues,
04:29of which they have marked what has come later
04:32in terms of journalism, 20, 30 years later.
04:35There is some reference and some anecdote
04:37that by this time, Gustavo, some rescue
04:40of the typical meeting when you meet someone on the street
04:43or in a new journalistic company or in a project,
04:46and you meet someone and he tells you,
04:48you are the same, as if it were a compliment.
04:51He hated to be told that he was the same,
04:54because, of course, being the same bored him.
04:58For him, life was permanent change,
05:00and he has even pointed out many times
05:02that he kicked the anthill of a project that worked
05:06because he was bored with himself, right?
05:07Yes, yes, yes.
05:10And also, as a good teacher who has left a generation of students,
05:15I feel like a student of Jorge, just to learn from him, to look at him.
05:20Surely, only those who are happy and applauding at this moment
05:24are the corrupt, the shameless, the thieves, the swindlers,
05:29the dishonest officials,
05:31all those to whom, with their pen, with their voice,
05:35and even with their gaze...
05:37Mr. Jorge Lanata, the master journalist,
05:40put us on the table, so you are very touched, dear friend.
05:43Yes, I know, I notice it, and I know it from before,
05:46also for things that we have even chatted about
05:49before having this outcome, so we thank you,
05:52also, that you are making the effort to go out in the air
05:54at this moment, Gustavo, Gustavo Descalzi,
05:56there, from Uruguay, his name, who had to give the news
05:59to another media reference, nothing less than
06:02the Negro González Oro,
06:03and speaking of people who are media references,
06:05who are returning home, which gives me a lot of pleasure,
06:07pity the circumstances in which we are taking contact with him,
06:11is Luis Novaresio, Luis, dear, how are you doing?
06:14Well, the formality is to say good afternoon,
06:16we are, not least surprised by the news,
06:20all shocked this afternoon, how are you doing, Luis?
06:23What are you doing, Bobby? A pleasure to hear you and see you.
06:27Look, we were having a coffee with Braulio, with my husband,
06:30and the news arrived, and it shocked me, it surprised me,
06:34and I said, why does it surprise me so much
06:36if it was something that was within the chances,
06:38within the high chances, knowing Jorge Lanata's state of health,
06:43and I think what surprises me, first, an idiocy, right?
06:45As if the warning of death softened the death itself, right?
06:50But I think what causes me the most is sadness,
06:53because, you see, we all tend to speak in the first person,
06:57and I'm going to try to avoid it, I'm not a friend of Jorge,
07:00I never worked with him,
07:02I only knew him socially and from reading him.
07:05One of the most important people in Spanish-speaking journalism
07:08of the 20th century and of this one died,
07:10and if you hurry me up, thinking about journalism in our America,
07:15since it was founded, one of the five most important people
07:19that has had the job, the truth is, I think that's a shock.
07:23A great guy died, an extraordinary guy,
07:27out of the ordinary,
07:29discussed, with whom you agreed and disagreed,
07:32but who made this job something better.
07:34Sure, the consumption of the different generations
07:38that he went through with his work,
07:41there is a Lanata for each generation.
07:44I am one of those who, with Página 12, began my day,
07:48who did not enter the building of social networks
07:51and grape communication,
07:53but was with the fingers stained with the ink
07:56of the covers of Página 12,
07:57where he re-founded what was the cover of a newspaper,
08:02the style, the patio, everything,
08:04where they were boring, gray, formal, structured.
08:08You had to prepare, I imagine,
08:11to the madness, Luis, of what you had to do
08:13when you left those offices where ideas are thrown,
08:17and then you have to transfer it to a plant
08:19that has to print a newspaper,
08:21or someone who has to carry it out,
08:23because he turned it around, he put it in mirror effect,
08:27he put it in white, he put the whole cover in black,
08:31he had it in yellow,
08:35and he took it out from one day to the next,
08:37because we are talking about a product
08:38that is from one day to the next,
08:39from hours, it is a journalistic product,
08:42not from a week, which is a magazine,
08:43and it came out all in yellow.
08:46I imagine what he had to do.
08:47Well, it crossed my mind that Lanata,
08:49studying at that time,
08:50consuming Lanata from Página 12,
08:53also from the radio, from Hora 25,
08:56which has served as a model for so many,
08:58and there, where he touched something,
09:00it was, hey, we have to start doing radio this way,
09:02or part of the radio that is done, we have to do it there,
09:05or part of the TV that has to be done, we have to do it there.
09:08He must have surprised you too,
09:09and even admired you as a colleague and man of the media, right?
09:15Look, Gusas, it is an absolutely fair journey of Lanata.
09:19At the age of twenty-something, it is a diary.
09:20Well, you are younger than I am,
09:22more than three years older.
09:23It's not that much, it's not that much.
09:25For us, I mean, for our generation, Página,
09:27we all wanted to write in Página,
09:29and we wanted to write like those who wrote in Página.
09:32How Sloto wrote, Guiarda,
09:34nothing, I'm thinking about these things,
09:37that when one dies out there,
09:38he meets people who are no longer there.
09:40I say, I hope they meet,
09:41because apart from that, I would give a year of my life
09:43for that fight between Sloto and Lanata.
09:47But I say, I wrote Ernesto, Sloto, María,
09:49I don't know what.
09:50Then the guy did twenty-one, twenty-two, twenty-three.
09:52Then he came to that channel,
09:53meters from where you are, with all the security,
09:55he did Day D, he stayed silent for twelve minutes
09:59because he had been turned in twelve minutes late,
10:01and we were all...
10:02You know what? Lanata was a magnetic guy.
10:05Whether you liked it or not,
10:06whether you liked it or not,
10:08he was one of the few people in this profession,
10:10there is no more, I think,
10:11who can look at the camera and talk for forty minutes
10:14and it is magnetic to you.
10:16I mean, you can't stop listening to what Lanata says.
10:19And he was also a very controversial guy.
10:23Look, I was thinking that I was lucky
10:25to write some critical reviews,
10:28when in the critical stages, right?
10:30So I asked him for a job.
10:31I mean, I was going to tell him,
10:32hey, I want to...
10:33Come on, there's no way, man.
10:35Two with fifty.
10:36And the guy gave you a look back on what you...
10:39The guy read what he cared about,
10:41what you had written.
10:42It seemed like a joke to him,
10:44but he said it was a joke.
10:46And then, just another colleague told me,
10:48but the critical reviews were going to come out.
10:50Look, Maestro Alejandro Dolina,
10:53when he is praised in literature,
10:56Maestro, how I like what you write,
10:58how good your book is, how good...
11:00Dolina quickly asks,
11:01and who did you read?
11:03Let's see if you read Proust,
11:05or you read nothing, you see?
11:06But I'm a fucking old man.
11:09So I say,
11:10the one who raises a finger today,
11:12and he will say,
11:12but Lanata said, Lanata contradicted himself...
11:16Come on, what did you do?
11:17Tell me, I forgot the important part,
11:20what you did.
11:21Luis, if you have a few minutes,
11:22I invite you to stay disengaged,
11:25and I thank you for your generosity,
11:26because I also want to add it,
11:27we have it connected on the phone,
11:29to another friend of the house,
11:30and another man who in recent years
11:33has generated and shared with Jorge Lanata
11:36one of the moments,
11:37that one expected at the radio level,
11:38which was the pass.
11:40It's Eduardo Feinman.
11:41Eduardo, how are you?
11:42Good afternoon, thank you for attending us.
11:44No, please.
11:45A big hug.
11:46Hello Luis, dear.
11:47A sad day.
11:49Yes, yes, because here we are,
11:50we say with Luis, who also greets you there,
11:53licking our wounds publicly,
11:55doing catharsis,
11:55and not least expected,
11:57it ceases to be less painful,
11:59this moment, Eduardo.
12:01No, obviously not.
12:02A sad day.
12:04Not only for me personally,
12:07but for the country.
12:10Because a great part of Argentine journalism is gone,
12:13and a great part of democracy,
12:15in the last at least 20 years.
12:17And you...
12:18Its journalistic investigations,
12:20its journalistic works,
12:22both on radio and on television,
12:24have provoked police cases,
12:26which ended up, for example,
12:28in the conviction of Cristina Rodriguez.
12:30Of course, of course.