👉 Franco Vera de 22 años caminaba por la calle Santa Catalina al 800 de regreso a su casa, cuando Patricio Leonel Correa, de 24 años, abrió fuego y le impactó de lleno al joven, quien perdió la vida. En esa calle funcionaba un búnker narco y Correa habría disparado con furia porque no quisieron venderle drogas.
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00:00I spoke with the mayor of Morón, with Lucas G,
00:03and I asked him about this issue.
00:05And according to him, on December 4th,
00:07he asked the prosecution for intervention,
00:10and that they had planned, according to judicial sources,
00:13for this raid on January 6th.
00:16When, when? Excuse me, give me both dates.
00:18He tells me that they asked the prosecution, on December 4th...
00:22December 4th.
00:23Yes, for the intervention.
00:24And that they had planned, according to judicial sources,
00:27for the raid on January 6th.
00:29He has a testimony.
00:30Yes, he's outraged, Fito Berto, he just heard you.
00:32Yes, yes, but I'll tell you this.
00:34Then he told me that they are in contact with Marcela,
00:36with Franco's mother,
00:37and he also told me that they brought all the cameras
00:39and that they have identified them.
00:41According to the police, they have already identified
00:43who were responsible for Franco's death.
00:45Franco is already dead.
00:46Tell me, Fito, and I'm going to the phone quickly, Javi, I'm going.
00:49No, let's tell Lucas that we are going to finish with the cassette
00:52and the story that he asked for on the 4th,
00:54that for the 6th, just on the 6th,
00:57the raid was going to arrive.
00:59That story doesn't go any further.
01:01He will have asked for it, it will not have arrived,
01:03but that on the 6th, it was going to arrive on July 6th.
01:05Drug trafficking is a crime, it is a national crime.
01:08Can I finish?
01:09It is not a national crime.
01:10Can I finish?
01:11No, drug trafficking is not.
01:12No.
01:13Drug trafficking is not.
01:14Round it up, Fito, as if you were waiting for it.
01:16Sorry, I meant a federal crime, it is a federal crime.
01:18Drug trafficking is not.
01:19Drug trafficking is not.
01:20No.
01:21Well, come on, talk, talk, talk.
01:22Let's go with the tape, thank you.
01:23Fito, I'm listening to you, Javi,
01:24if we don't have the lady waiting, please.
01:27We are with Ana, Ana is Franco's aunt.
01:33Is what is being experienced falling or is it still a dream,
01:38or is it a nightmare?
01:39No.
01:41No.
01:42Today begins my nephew's funeral between 18 and 20 hours.
01:49How hard, how hard.
01:51No.
01:52No.
01:55I don't know what to say to my sister.
02:03I don't know what to say to my sister.
02:06And we don't know what to say to you, Ana.
02:09In another stadium, in another situation.
02:11Yes, my mother, who is 84 years old, who is the grandson, right?
02:20Ana, how many times did you know ...
02:22I'm listening to you, Ana.
02:23The truth is, you don't know what to say to your sister.
02:25We don't have any explanations either,
02:27because you can't understand how a young man
02:29who just crossed the 20-year-old border,
02:31a whole life ahead, projects, the challenge of giving a hand,
02:34putting his shoulder to the death of his father.
02:38And now you have to be talking about how they are going to watch him.
02:41To me, because my husband died too.
02:43Also.
02:45Yes, yes, no, it's like life doesn't matter to anyone.
02:49Life for these people is nothing, it has no value.
02:54Come on, there is nothing that replaces a life.
02:59It has no price.
03:00Ana, it is assumed that we are ...
03:02At least the death of a child.
03:03That we are all equal before the law,
03:05but forgive me, I was saying a while ago
03:07that sometimes it gives the impression that
03:09being born, growing up, being raised in some places,
03:11life is worth less than in others.
03:16Yes, yes, yes.
03:17In addition, this neighborhood has been quiet.
03:19This neighborhood has been made by the Italians.
03:24The workers.
03:25And now the neighborhood was won by others, right?
03:27These people, these people ruined it.
03:29Of course, it was taken by other people.
03:32Because they are not from here, they are not ours.
03:37How many times have you pointed out
03:39that this place was not a greenhouse,
03:41that it was something else?
03:45No, it was in plain sight
03:47and the doors were constantly open.
03:49It was impossible not to know.
03:54The police officer cannot say
03:55that he did not know what this was.
03:57Did it work hidden only at night?
03:59Did it work during the day in plain sight?
04:01No, no, 24 hours a day.
04:05No, no, no.
04:06They didn't hide.
04:07Not at all.
04:09They marked territory.
04:11That's impunity, huh?
04:13Yes, or something worse, right?
04:15I don't want to touch them.
04:17Yes, yes, yes.
04:18Or coexistence or complicity.
04:20And in fact, it is seen in the video
04:22I didn't dare to watch the video
04:24where they murder my nephew.
04:26It is seen that, from what they tell me,
04:28the impunity of the murderer.
04:32No, no, no.
04:34He came to kill.
04:37Whoever it is.
04:38If my mother went out to throw the garbage,
04:40they also killed my mother.
04:42How crazy, how crazy.
04:44I had to live like this.
04:45I heard today when they were repressed,
04:47by the way, some of the neighbors
04:49who said they were fed up with this,
04:51that they wanted to throw it down,
04:53you and the neighbors,
04:54because even this happened in front of the creatures.
04:59Yes, forget it.
05:01You passed with your son and they were armed.
05:04I didn't take my baby out to do the errands.
05:10Ana!
05:11No, no, my grandchildren,
05:12nobody knows what it is to play on the sidewalk.
05:14Ana, when...
05:15No, we lived locked up.
05:17You lived locked up.
05:19How long has this situation been like this in Morón?
05:24And since this was out of control in this house.
05:27But how long has this house been in operation?
05:32And well, the owner,
05:34for years that he drugs himself,
05:36and well, there was always a problem,
05:38that they came to make trouble for him,
05:40because he owed drugs, I don't know,
05:42and there were fights between them, right?
05:44After all these people got in,
05:46everything was over,
05:47and now four or five months,
05:49that we are like this,
05:50like full time, let's say.
05:53Ana, I'm going to apologize to you,
05:55without saying goodbye,
05:56you stay there with Javier, don't go.
05:58I'm going to ask Aldire,
05:59now where I was,
06:00I was just seeing an image,
06:01if we can put it in full,
06:03because we really live in the kingdom of the reverse.
06:05So many times the neighbors denounced this situation,
06:09and out there the police made a big deal out of it,
06:11the justice, and I want to talk about justice,
06:14I want to talk about justice,
06:15because we are all working,
06:16we all take a vacation for a week,
06:18ten days, we go back to work,
06:19and I don't know if in the time that runs,
06:21we can still live,
06:22all the judicial employees are going to fuck me,
06:24but with these issues of, you know,
06:26a fair, a prosecution is there,
06:29or some little play of shifts,
06:32I don't know, I end up arguing with Fito himself,
06:36it's not going to be the first or the last,
06:38but the truth is,
06:39the time they take,
06:40the complaint is made,
06:41well, but for January 6th,
06:43we give them a date,
06:44which seems like we tell everyone,
06:45for that they didn't intervene.
06:47Now, here, I'm seeing that it's wrong,
06:49it's wrong, surely,
06:51the violent reaction of the neighbors,
06:53but when you're fed up,
06:55when you're fed up
06:56that there's no one from the state
06:58who takes the reins of this situation,
07:00because let me tell you,
07:01even the politicians,
07:02the politicians,
07:03who get a mayor in any municipality,
07:06today it's Morón,
07:07and tomorrow it can be another,
07:08and yesterday it was another,
07:09they put themselves in front of this situation,
07:11and they set the political objective,
07:13with the municipal police,
07:15with the Bonarense,
07:16with the Nation,
07:17with whatever,
07:18they make an alliance,
07:19and they demolish a bunker a day,
07:21they're going to re-elect them,
07:23until eternity,
07:24boys, realize that,
07:25because later we want to cover
07:27with cosmetics these situations,
07:29or we want to make bread and circus,
07:31I'm not saying it has to be the whole municipality,
07:33it can be everyone,
07:34the size that suits them,
07:35but later we want to make bread and circus,
07:37and we cover everything with a festival,
07:40but if they really take the objective,
07:42the political challenge,
07:43to destroy a bunker a day,
07:45they're going to win the vote of the neighbors,
07:48from here to eternity,
07:49because the neighbor,
07:50the only thing he wants is to live in peace,
07:52to go out to work,
07:53to study,
07:54calm every day,
07:55it's as easy as that,
07:56that's the best state policy,
07:58so put yourself in front,
07:59don't get caught,
08:00don't throw the ball to the other,
08:02don't say no,
08:03because I claimed,
08:04and they told me on December 4,
08:05that it's going to be on January 6,
08:07it's very simple,
08:08the people are going to accompany them,
08:09they're going to take them out on the street,
08:11they turn a bunker a day,
08:13so please,
08:14please,
08:15then one sees that the violent reaction of the neighbors
08:17can be bad,
08:18but he says,
08:19we asked him once,
08:20we asked him twice,
08:21we asked him three times,
08:22well,
08:23I'm going,
08:24I'm going,
08:25we get together,
08:26say neighbor,
08:27and we break it,
08:28we throw it down,
08:29there was still someone there,
08:30a young boy,
08:31even with a dough in his hand,
08:32to turn it,
08:33to break it,
08:34then of course,
08:35the infantry comes,
08:36the police comes,
08:37and they don't shoot,
08:38they don't shoot,
08:39they don't shoot,
08:40they don't shoot,
08:41they don't shoot,
08:42they don't shoot,
08:43they don't shoot,
08:44they don't shoot,
08:45They are annoyed that they cut down the street,
08:46and the truth,
08:47people get tired,
08:48people get tired,
08:49people get tired,
08:50I'm going to tell you three or four things,
08:51I'm going to answer you.
08:52And I'm coming back,
08:53sorry,
08:54first,
08:55obviously,
08:56I'm not going to fall to the mayor,
08:57because this is in that municipality,
08:58and there are many,
08:59I don't eat the story that says that on Monday,
09:00when drugs are sold much more on Friday,
09:01Saturday,
09:02and Sunday,
09:03then they will go on Monday,
09:04just that story,
09:05That's what bothers me, hypocrisy.
09:07I know there's a manager who works, who's in charge,
09:09but in this story, you have to shut up, man.
09:12You have to shut up.
09:13You don't say, I'm on the 4th to go on the 6th.
09:15One, two.
09:16Or put yourself in the front, rather than shut up.
09:18No, but I say, in this situation,
09:20you say, no, we're just legal.
09:21I was going to go, I was going to fall, I was going to...
09:23No, shut up and put yourself in the front.
09:25Exactly.
09:26Two.
09:27Bobby, the prosecutor's offices,
09:29so that people know, there's always one on duty.
09:31It doesn't matter if there's a vacation or not,
09:33there's always one in February, in March, in April,
09:37for a fortnight, or for a week in some districts.
09:40So I'm not going to fall for the prosecutor either.
09:43Today I'm benevolent with everyone.
09:45Look, the police, that poor guy there,
09:48who didn't receive the complaint,
09:50who was sent to guard him,
09:52and they're shitting stones.
09:54He's...
09:55I'll talk about the neighbors later.
09:56So the poor guy,
09:57there comes a time when if he doesn't repress,
10:00he dies like Maria Magdalena,
10:02stoned.
10:03That policeman who's there,
10:05because he's the one who's there,
10:06not the one who received the complaint,
10:08nor the one who didn't...
10:09Well, wait, but now let's go to the neighbors.
10:12The indignation of the neighbors, understandable.
10:14Understandable.
10:15I mean, it's a problem that all the actors,
10:18you see it and you understand everyone,
10:20but there's a problem deep down
10:22that who can solve it?
10:24The political power.
10:25It's like you say, Bobby.
10:26The political power.
10:27The political power.
10:28If an intendant gets...
10:30I'm going to give two examples of two intendants
10:32to give the example.
10:34El Gato Granado.
10:36Ezeiza.
10:37Where do you get in?
10:38There are policemen to get in, to get out.
10:40What they've done with Ezeiza...
10:41Cameras everywhere.
10:42And it has grown with Canning,
10:43that Canning surpassed Montegrande,
10:46Ezeiza himself, and...
10:49And they're all there.
10:51And there's insecurity like in everything, but...
10:53No, but I mean as far as ITA games.
10:55El Gato Granado, which happened to the sheriff's father,
10:58puts a lot of effort into security.
11:00So that's what we say to the intendants.
11:02What we say to Lucas.
11:04After this, put yourself in front.
11:06And publish when you close a bunker,
11:08you go every day...
11:09Because if an intendant calls the police
11:13and calls the prosecutor,
11:14don't hesitate to go.
11:16We all know that.
11:18Javi, I'll be back with you
11:19to see if the return has not been cut.
11:21Because at one point I think it had been cut.
11:23Tell me if we can go with him,
11:25because he was also there with his aunt.
11:27I wanted...
11:28Yes, we have him back.
11:29Yes, he's fine here.
11:30I'll be back with you.
11:31I'll be back with Ana.
11:32Yes.
11:33Just an image, Bo and the guys.
11:35An image of Gianluca,
11:37who happens to be Franco's cousin
11:40and Ana's son,
11:41hugging his friends.
11:43It was a situation,
11:45a very sad situation.
11:48Ana just told us there
11:50that Franco was very loved by everyone.
11:52No, no.
11:53Last night, all the neighbors...
11:55I don't know how many blocks there were.
11:58There were people...
12:00When the tragedy was becoming known,
12:02the news.
12:03Yes, yes.
12:04They all came out to support us,
12:05to accompany us,
12:06to ask for justice.
12:07All of them, all of them.
12:08We all came together
12:09because they touched one of ours.
12:12They touched a good one.
12:13A good one.
12:14So...
12:17we had to go out.
12:19Because today it was Franco,
12:21tomorrow it will be anyone.
12:22No, enough.
12:23I don't want anyone else to die.
12:26Enough.
12:27Morón has to go back to what it was.
12:31It's a beautiful city.
12:33It's a shame
12:36that nothing is done
12:38from the office.
12:42No, it's not understood.
12:43It's not understood.
12:44Ana, it was forged...
12:45It was forged with workers.
12:46You know who to ask for help.
12:48It was forged with workers,
12:50with small workshops.
12:53With the Europeans.
12:54Well...
12:55With the Europeans.
12:56A lot of workshops
12:57of engine recycling,
12:58of PYME,
12:59of families trying to progress.
13:02And at some point,
13:03something happened to us
13:04and today it's at a point
13:05where the territory is won over,
13:07the streets are won over
13:08by those who are engaged in crime.
13:11And this is also strange, isn't it?
13:12Yes.
13:13This is strange,
13:14that hours go by,
13:15in a while those streets
13:16will be populated
13:17by young people
13:18saying goodbye
13:19to a boy
13:20at a very young age.
13:22Because natural death,
13:23back then,
13:24the funerals
13:25were for older people
13:26who died
13:27because of natural causes,
13:28because of old age,
13:29because of diseases.
13:30More and more we attend
13:31and cover funerals
13:32of young people
13:33with young people
13:34saying goodbye to their parents.
13:35No.
13:36Yes, yes.
13:37It's like you're
13:38getting used to the pain
13:39and I don't want that.
13:43Like good things
13:44will never happen to you.
13:47Ana, you said before
13:49that the city council
13:50didn't do anything.
13:51Did you also turn to
13:52the city council
13:53and they didn't give you
13:54any answer?
13:57Look, I sent a message
13:58to Lukashy's account
14:00on Instagram.
14:03He never answered me.
14:07If you go to the city council,
14:08they don't give you anything either.
14:10Did other neighbors go?
14:11No.
14:12A neighborhood meeting was held,
14:13I think,
14:14a few blocks away,
14:16and they told me
14:17that the police commissioner
14:18was there.
14:20And they said
14:21that they had to go
14:22to the police station
14:23so that they could give us
14:24some money.
14:25People went to the police station
14:26and here we are,
14:27talking about
14:28how Franco was killed.
14:29We have to work as a team,
14:30guys.
14:31I don't want to get angry
14:32and I don't want to demonize
14:33anyone because
14:34with a hot body
14:35it's not very prudent.
14:36But work together.
14:37Don't let the ball pass.
14:38Grab it.
14:39Yes, of course.
14:40We don't want this anymore.
14:41Grab it.
14:42Sit down,
14:43sit at the same table.
14:44We want to live in peace.
14:45No one says
14:46that this is blowing
14:47and making bottles.
14:48No one says
14:49that it's an easy task.
14:50The social framework
14:51is getting more and more difficult,
14:52more complex.
14:53But the only way
14:54to face it
14:55is all together
14:56in any case.
14:57Instead of the police
14:58saying
14:59it's the prosecution,
15:00the prosecution says
15:01it's the municipality,
15:02the municipality says
15:03it's the city council.
15:04It's the pillbox.
15:05Sit down
15:06at the same table,
15:07please, please.
15:08Tell me, Gaby,
15:09Franco saved
15:10his grandmother's life.
15:11How is that?
15:12Franco saved
15:13his grandmother's life.
15:14Yes, in 1931.
15:15Tell us, Ana,
15:16please.
15:17Yes.
15:18Yes.
15:19My mother
15:20had a heart attack
15:21for about 22 hours.
15:22I was with him
15:23and my sister,
15:24my mother,
15:25and Franco
15:26called me
15:27and I screamed,
15:28Grandma,
15:29call the ambulance
15:30because my grandmother
15:31had a heart attack
15:32and he assisted her
15:33taking the food
15:34out of her mouth
15:35because my mother
15:36fainted while eating.
15:37And he was pale
15:38when he saw me
15:39and he said,
15:40Grandma,
15:41call the ambulance
15:42because my grandmother
15:43had a heart attack
15:44and he assisted her
15:45taking the food
15:46out of her mouth
15:47because my mother
15:48fainted while eating.
15:49And he was pale
15:50when I arrived,
15:51Grandma,
15:52and he assisted her
15:53and he was by my side.
15:54He didn't get off
15:55my mother
15:56like he never did.
15:57Ana,
15:58what did your mother
15:59say?
16:00He was very scared.
16:01What did your mother
16:02say
16:03when she heard
16:04the gunshot
16:05yesterday?
16:06My mother,
16:07of course,
16:08said,
16:10Yes.
16:12Because he had just
16:13gone out to dinner
16:14with friends
16:15and he hadn't arrived yet
16:16and my mother
16:17was expecting
16:18because she was
16:19expecting.
16:20And he said,
16:21Franco.
16:22How are we going
16:23to understand
16:24the reaction
16:25of the family
16:26of the neighborhood
16:27if we have just
16:28started
16:29getting to know
16:30Franco,
16:31the personality,
16:32the humanity
16:33of this 22-year-old
16:34boy
16:35when he is no longer
16:36there?
16:38We just started
16:39getting to know him
16:40when he was no longer
16:41there.
16:42Imagine the pain
16:43of this family.
16:44Yes.
16:45The enormous loss
16:46of this fantastic
16:47human being
16:48like Franco
16:49who had just
16:50come to enjoy
16:51with friends.
16:52They shot him.
16:53Who went to work,
16:54who worked
16:55in a workshop,
16:56who had the project.
16:57I told my aunt,
16:58Ana,
16:59Ana,
17:00I told you,
17:01we are going to live
17:02on the coast,
17:03aunt,
17:04and there we do
17:05our life project.
17:07Yes.
17:09Yes.
17:11We just started
17:12getting to know
17:13Franco
17:14when he was no longer
17:15there.
17:16Yes.
17:17He was the vanilla
17:18and he told me,
17:19aunt,
17:20I'm going to help you
17:21too.
17:22And I told him,
17:23well,
17:24do something
17:25in the back
17:26of my house.
17:27I'll give you
17:28a piece of land
17:29for my sister.
17:30On the coast?
17:31Yes.
17:32San Clemente,
17:33instead of Italians.
17:34Also.
17:35I'm from San Clemente
17:36del Tuyo.
17:37Yes.
17:38My parents
17:39live in San Clemente
17:40del Tuyo.
17:41I love San Clemente
17:42del Tuyo
17:43and I know it.
17:44It's the place
17:45that my husband
17:46chose,
17:47my husband.
17:48As Fito says,
17:49as you say,
17:50Ana.
17:51My husband
17:52chose that place.
17:53There,
17:54the largest number
17:55of people
17:56who bought
17:57their little lot
17:58in the 50s,
17:5960s,
18:00like Buentano,
18:01went to the seasons,
18:02he wandered around
18:03and before going
18:04to the seasons,
18:05he went to the seasons
18:06with his family.
18:07Like this neighborhood.
18:08Most of us
18:09are Italian children.
18:10Argentina is no longer there.
18:11Fito, Ana,
18:12as soon as I arrived
18:13to the neighborhood,
18:14there were two older men.
18:15I think you know them.
18:16Two older men
18:17over 70 years old.
18:18I ask them,
18:19gentlemen,
18:20what do you think of this?
18:21And we lived here
18:2270 years ago.
18:23We, where Franco
18:24died,
18:25we played ball.
18:26Then I asked
18:27some neighbors,
18:28the neighbors in front,
18:29Paola,
18:30who came
18:31with Ana,
18:32who came with
18:33Mario,
18:34her little girl,
18:35Sofia,
18:36two years old,
18:37she can't go out
18:38to the sidewalk.
18:39She had to make
18:40a fence
18:41in the front yard
18:42that is two by
18:4350 centimeters
18:44for the little girl
18:45to play there
18:46with her doll,
18:47with her car.
18:48No.
18:49She can't go out
18:50to the sidewalk.
18:51No, neither my son
18:52nor my grandson
18:53know what it is
18:54to go out
18:55to do a job alone.
18:56That's what
18:57the local
18:58municipal governments
18:59have to see.
19:00When the neighbors
19:01can't walk
19:02with a dead person
19:03like this one
19:04wielding a gun
19:05and can shoot him.
19:06When the neighbors,
19:07when these people
19:08appear,
19:09they have to look down
19:10and they can't even
19:11look him in the eye
19:12to see if he answers
19:13or shoots me.
19:14That's how these people
19:15lived.
19:16That's how they live.
19:17That's why
19:18it's the horror
19:19of what happened.
19:20In fact, there are no
19:21municipal cameras here.
19:22They are private cameras
19:23that we have.
19:24There are no municipal cameras
19:25here.
19:26Look.
19:27Why?
19:28And there is an important
19:29avenue there,
19:30half a block away.
19:31Two blocks away
19:32from Morón's air base
19:33is Eva Perón's avenue.
19:34The Galician is showing her
19:35there.
19:36And a few meters away
19:37from a bus stop
19:38that told us
19:39who it was.
19:40It was you,
19:41Ana,
19:42who told us
19:43earlier,
19:44or one of the people
19:45we talked to,
19:46that to go out
19:47to work
19:48at the time,
19:49Marcela,
19:50when she was also
19:51going to work
19:52with Franco,
19:53they went out
19:54in groups
19:55at six in the morning
19:56because the neighborhood
19:57was nobody's land.
19:58Yes, yes, yes.
19:59Yes, yes.
20:00Yes, yes.
20:01The people who have to
20:02come through here
20:03to take the bus.
20:04And you met
20:05with this bunker,
20:06with the characters,
20:07with the...
20:08And one in the afternoon
20:09they told me
20:10that they had stolen
20:11a motorcycle.
20:12A delivery came
20:13to bring ice cream
20:14I don't know what house
20:15for the party.
20:16Of course.
20:17He said,
20:18no, I'm leaving,
20:19I'm leaving,
20:20that they just
20:21stole these from here
20:22a motorcycle.
20:23So...
20:24Nobody's land.
20:25With cameras
20:26from all the neighbors,
20:27right?
20:28Yes, yes, yes.
20:29And that's why
20:30we changed our
20:31beloved Argentina
20:32to some neighborhoods
20:33that were made
20:34out of labor force,
20:35workshop,
20:36commerce,
20:37pymes.
20:38As Gabby Prosper
20:39described,
20:40it's bought land
20:41and then
20:42if there is space
20:43and I cannot buy
20:44in another,
20:45I make the house
20:46for my daughter.
20:47So these neighborhoods
20:48were built
20:49and yet,
20:50at some point,
20:51I don't know,
20:52what happened to us,
20:53the drugs won them,
20:54they won these drug addicts
20:55who don't even know
20:56where they are.
20:57Yes.
20:58Did this start to change?
21:03Yes, a little more.
21:06No, more than 15 years.
21:08Morón? No, a long time ago.
21:13And one more thing, Ana, that you just said.
21:17There are no cameras in the municipality, there are private cameras.
21:21And this is a message for all the mayors.
21:24Stop fucking with cameras to control the speed, to collect fines.
21:31For that, they always have cameras.
21:33Yes, go to this avenue, the fines are ...
21:36There you have it.
21:38The cameras for the fines are there, but to monitor the security, nothing.
21:42You, Ana.
21:43Well, there is a contradiction, because according to the mayor, there are cameras.
21:47He said he was going to present the cameras to identify ...
21:50Where? Here you are.
21:51How?
21:52What camera? The one they gave him.
21:55I tell you what the mayor said.
21:57Private, of course.
21:58No, no, not private, the cameras of the municipality.
22:01He says that the cameras of the municipality already present them.
22:04And where are they?
22:05What I tell you is what they told me.
22:07I give the information, it seems to me that one has to say things ...
22:11Of course, but I don't see anything in this picture, you see.
22:14Well, I tell you that they say that they have identified the responsible.
22:21And if the police asked the cameras to take out the corner ...
22:25The responsible have been identified because these cameras that are here ...
22:29Excuse me, Ana.
22:30These cameras that are here show absolutely everything,
22:33which is how the fact of this early morning is viralized.
22:37Thanks to the private cameras, which in fact the police ended up taking,
22:41at the request of justice, the DVR ended up taking.
22:44The DVR, because what do the neighbors say?
22:47That on the 31st in the afternoon they failed,
22:49that on the 31st at night they failed,
22:52that the previous days there were innumerable number of problems.
22:57So, in the face of that sequence of issues and cases,
23:02well, I take the DVR to see if everything the neighbors are saying is true.
23:07And to investigate all the characters that are related to this bunker and others.
23:12But private cameras are all public, at least in this area.
23:17We will have to walk on Eva Perón and we will have to see if the cameras that are on Eva Perón
23:22correspond to the fines or photo fines, or if they are photos of the security monitoring.
23:29No, yes, I know that around here, no block has a municipal camera.
23:36We only have anti-panic buttons.
23:38I'm consulting you to go back to what I'm saying.
23:41I want to thank something that Jimena is doing here while the program is running,
23:44because it is also a good journalistic practice,
23:47which is also to consult the municipality, listen to the other voice.
23:50Then she transmits the information, we do not kill the messenger.
23:53And I agree with what you say, Bobby,
23:55that also this thing of throwing the ball to one or the other, someone has to take care of it,
23:58that is also real.
23:59Because Franco's life is not going to be returned to anyone.
24:02So we really live this every day and there is always this thing of
24:06no, it did not correspond to me, it corresponds to so-and-so.
24:08But someone has to take care of it.
24:10Up, down, as we say, the municipality, the government, the national government.
24:14It is real that drug trafficking grows and someone has to take care of it.
24:18Then we discuss competition.
24:20Yes, that's why.
24:21Because someone can come here, we are all outraged now.
24:24No, not to mention that you are going to ask for help to get a child out of addiction,
24:28that you have to legalize so that they do not give you a ball.
24:32Another big issue.
24:33Let's answer this question.
24:34It does not suit you.
24:35And I have gone to the municipality, I have gone to the municipality.
24:38Let's answer this question together, if we can.
24:40Whose street is it? Whose public space is it?
24:45It should belong to the people.
24:46To whom does it belong?
24:47It should be a competition to the municipality.
24:49Or who feels that it is the owner of the public space?
24:52Today.
24:53Today the criminals.
24:54Well, let's both answer that question at once.
24:58And let's give the answer that is pertinent.
25:01The public space belongs to the citizen.
25:04The street belongs to the citizen.
25:06Of course.
25:07To use his vehicle, to walk on the sidewalk quietly,
25:10to be able to get home quietly at any time of the day.
25:12Yes, for his orders.
25:13For everything.
25:14So, if the political leaders cannot give a positive answer
25:20of who the public space belongs to,
25:23of who the street belongs to,
25:25they have to step aside.
25:27Look, Bobby, you know that I have been very critical of Patricia Bullrich in a lot of things.
25:32But we need more Patricia Bullrich,
25:35more Bernie,
25:36more Alonso, the current Minister of Security,
25:40more Diego Santilli,
25:42when he was in the city.
25:44Officials who go and fight crime,
25:48regardless of the consequences.
25:49Because if they don't, they hide.
25:51This happens until another dead person happens again,
25:55in another municipality.
25:57We need that in every municipality there are officials in the security area
26:03willing to fight this scourge.
26:05Because this is the drug.
26:06We are not seeing it.
26:08But before it was the drug.
26:09Now it is the drug and the weapon.
26:11We are naturalizing, as you said just now.
26:14They fight and don't negotiate with the crime.
26:16Well, of course.
26:17Not to mention that.
26:19But did you see the exclusive document you brought?
26:22The boy came with the gun,
26:23a girl behind, as if nothing,
26:25and he took out, I don't know, a cell phone to call.
26:27The worst city in the world.
26:28So we are naturalizing it, obviously.
26:30And you know that it is disgustingly outrageous,
26:32and I try to find words within what I say.
26:35Excuse me, and that camera was not municipal?
26:37No, no, no.
26:38We are talking about all the neighbors' cameras.
26:40In addition, all the neighbors who have a hard time getting there at the end of May,
26:42nevertheless,
26:43they invest in having to raise the walls higher and higher,
26:45put more fences,
26:47and on top of that, buy cameras.
26:49More and more.
26:50But what is disgustingly outrageous,
26:53they have identified him, but they don't stop him,
26:55the hours go by,
26:57they are going to give the body to the family at some point,
26:59he is going to be populated by young people
27:01to mourn him, to say goodbye to him,
27:03and we still don't have news of the arrest.
27:05But also,
27:07they kill you,
27:08and on top of that,
27:09they do funny postings.
27:11Because today, in addition, everything is later published on social networks,
27:14where a family is going to have to mourn him
27:17for the rest of his life.
27:19This is a post that was involved in the incident.
27:23What is this?
27:25I told them.
27:27In EVE, it is, we'll see each other,
27:29they tell me in the slang.
27:31I told them, we'll see each other, I don't know.
27:33And this is posted by one of the people involved in the incident?
27:37Yes.
27:38No, really.
27:39Yes, yes.
27:40Like this? Like this?
27:42It's like, too much effort to ask the family,
27:45the neighbors, the friends,
27:47to be calm, to stay calm.
27:49I don't want to justify violent reactions.
27:51No, yes, yes.
27:52But it's very difficult, really.
27:54Because that's where you have a little blood in your veins,
27:56and not cold tomato juice.
27:58The truth is,
28:00you get, you get...
28:02Your head boils.
28:04No, of course.
28:05It's too much to ask.
28:06When you see the drug addicts, the zombies,
28:09the impunity, with a gun in their hands,
28:11like Gabriel Prosperi got in the video,
28:13ten minutes from arriving and just talking to the neighbors.
28:16He's an excellent worker in the U.S.,
28:19an excellent street journalist,
28:21but it took him a while to talk to the neighbors.
28:23Of course.
28:24It was as simple as that.
28:25It was to lend an ear to the neighbors, please.
28:27So, there is an element of proof.
28:29They are probably the same.
28:31It could have been avoided,
28:33because this is what reveals to us,
28:35that today we have to fire a young boy
28:38who put his shoulder to the family,
28:40who was becoming a man ahead of time
28:42to respond to his mother,
28:44to his little brother,
28:46to his aunt,
28:47to his grandmother,
28:48to get ahead.
28:49Because they died young,
28:50when you need the company of a father
28:53to make a living.
28:54And if you don't have it,
28:55they'll tell you,
28:56well, it's not the first and the last,
28:57but you have to mature ahead of time.
28:59And the guy was at the top of the circumstances,
29:02he went out to work,
29:03how much money he had, he grabbed it,
29:05he came to save his grandmother's life.
29:08And the truth is,
29:09and you have to see that in social networks,
29:11and then the other thing,
29:13because in the same corridor of the West,
29:15we saw many others,
29:16let's remember,
29:1715 days ago, 20 days ago,
29:19that stopped a lot,
29:20that attacked our fellow journalists,
29:22when they went.
29:23And there you have them,
29:24posting, easy money,
29:26then the others in another area,
29:28you have them going to buy,
29:29with that money, a shopping.
29:31You see?
29:32Then, everything is rubbed in your face,
29:34because it happens,
29:35that in the middle of the blood,
29:37that has not yet dried up,
29:38they rub you,
29:39the money,
29:40in the face,
29:41in the card,
29:42you have to see how they enjoy the money,
29:44because,
29:45it's cowardly,
29:46to go out with a gun.
29:47I want to tell many children,
29:48who are watching us on El Conurbano,
29:50I hope at this moment,
29:51they are not sleeping,
29:52they are watching us,
29:53and the truth,
29:54brave,
29:55are their brothers,
29:56their cousins,
29:57their uncles,
29:58and their parents,
29:59who have to go out to work,
30:00for little money.
30:01These,
30:02these are cowards,
30:03go out with a gun,
30:04to make easy money,
30:05it's cowardly,
30:06do not be confused with the message,
30:08brave are the Albanians,
30:10that yesterday we showed,
30:11that they went out,
30:12to defend a neighbor,
30:14those are brave,
30:15who are working,
30:16under the sun,
30:17at one in the afternoon,
30:18these are not brave,
30:20but of course,
30:21sometimes they confuse the youth,
30:23because they go out,
30:24with easy money,
30:25with dollars,
30:26my mom,
30:27I think she did not see a dollar in her life,
30:28Fito,
30:29if I tell you the truth,
30:30I think my mom,
30:31and my dad,
30:32who is already dead,
30:33I think he did not see a dollar in his life,
30:34I think he never had a dollar in his life,
30:35cement, brick,
30:36they saw,
30:37I have no doubt,
30:38I do not know you,
30:39cement and brick,
30:40it was what was saved,
30:41the little foot,
30:42to grow up,
30:43and so on,
30:44to help the son,
30:45then the grandson,
30:46that was Argentina,
30:47that out there,
30:48the minors,
30:49of 30 years,
30:50do not know it,
30:51they do not know that it exists,
30:52but there was an Argentina,
30:53like that,
30:54where ...
30:56Yes,
30:57yes,