Stefan Molyneux
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In this episode, I discuss societal beauty standards and the implications of hyper-sexualized representations of women, sparked by H. Pearl Davis's commentary. I analyze the disparity between curated online images and reality, questioning how these affect self-perception and relationships.

Emphasizing the need to prioritize integrity and character over appearance, I use the Garden of Eden metaphor to highlight the flaws in valuing looks. I advocate for authenticity and self-acceptance, exploring the psychological impacts of these beauty standards and their role in modern dating. Ultimately, I encourage listeners to focus on genuine connections and personal growth over conforming to unrealistic beauty ideals.

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Transcript
00:00Good morning everybody, Stephen Molyneux from Free Domain, hope you're doing well.
00:04So this is interesting, this woman, angel or devil, doing the gods or the dark lord's
00:10work, H. Pearl Davis, this is Pearly Things, on Twitter, and this is a fight of monumental,
00:21if not downright biblical proportions, with regards to women.
00:27And she is railing against, you know what, that's a bit prejudicial, she is opposed to
00:35excessive female sexual or desirable presentation, she is against that.
00:45And so she wrote, that's a couple of days ago, she wrote, now that 2024 is coming to
00:50a close, it's time to vote for our most important award, catfish of the year.
00:54I want to give special thanks to the filters, plastic surgeons, and FaceTime app that make
00:58this all possible, please vote by liking and retweeting the lovely ladies in the thread
01:01below, and so on, right.
01:04And then there's a, the fact that there's a community note about this is, to me, quite
01:08funny.
01:09Wearing makeup and taking professional or better quality profile photos for avatars
01:13or professional use is a normal thing widely accepted by society, and apparently by Pearl
01:17on her own profile.
01:19So I don't think that she is complaining or railing against a little bit of makeup
01:28or some nice photos or anything like that, but let's get into this.
01:33So she says, first on deck we have the redheaded libertarian, Josie is a 40, that's a typo,
01:3840 year old conservative tweeter who made us think she looked 28 and hot, unfortunately
01:41she's mid like the rest of us, please like this if you think she deserves the award.
01:46And of course there's a difference between the woman on the left and the woman without
01:53makeup, but she is not, in my humble opinion, Josie, the redheaded libertarian, is not mid.
02:05Of course there are bad photos and so on, and there's well-lit stuff and so on, but
02:09it is not a question of mid, but man, the ferocity between these two women, I won't
02:13even get into it.
02:14It's just absolutely wild.
02:17So what is the issue?
02:19We'll sort of get into that, right?
02:21So catfish of the year, this is not in particular conservatives, Sidney Sweeney, blunt bombshell,
02:30and this is Sidney Sweeney, and of course then there were these photos taken of Sidney
02:34Sweeney where, you know, she's got bright light on her sunlight, she's squinting, brow
02:42furrows, and so on.
02:44I mean, obviously a nice figure.
02:46I don't quite know what these lines are.
02:50Maybe she just rolled over other little fat lines on the side, but she's not fat or anything
02:56like that, right?
02:57So yes, there is a big difference.
03:00I don't know who these women are as a whole.
03:03Paige Spirnak.
03:05So there's this and then there's this.
03:09And yes, these two things are very different, right?
03:13There's an old comedy, if the men know we can shapeshift, they're going to call the
03:17church, right?
03:18This is a very, very complex thing that's going on, right?
03:21So yes, there is a big difference, of course, right?
03:26And then this woman, Lolita D'Arias, Puerto Rican bombshell.
03:32So this is, and this is the Cardi B thing, I see Cardi B without makeup, right?
03:38Not my particular pyramid style body preferences, but yeah, I don't know what the red nose is,
03:46but yes, she is got a lot of makeup on, right?
03:53This is Sabrina Carpenter, and yes, that's a lot of makeup.
03:58And personally, I think that Sabrina Carpenter without makeup looks better than Sabrina Carpenter
04:03with makeup.
04:05This is kabuki stuff, just doesn't do it for me.
04:09It's not real.
04:11It puts them into AI, cupid doll territory.
04:14I prefer this look.
04:15I've never actually dated a woman who wears much makeup.
04:17Oh, there's a note, February, she was only 15 years old.
04:22Again, whatever, I think she looks fine.
04:26What's this girl?
04:31So yes, makeup and no makeup.
04:33Again, she looks fine to me.
04:36The big warning sign is the skull on her t-shirt.
04:39That's a dangerous thing.
04:40Courtney Nill, look, I personally don't think that women who are trying to be influencers
04:51should pose in this kind of way.
04:52I mean, I've torn my shirt off on a couple of shows, mostly for comedy, because I'm in
04:57my 50s.
04:58So anyway, where is this?
05:02So she's got a bunch of these women, and it's an interesting question, right?
05:08It's an interesting question.
05:09Now I'll sort of put forward a thesis as to why this has become so sort of controversial,
05:14but you know, 10.2 million views, obviously, it's quite good.
05:17So in my view, so I think a lot about the Garden of Eden, right?
05:24Story of the Genesis, right?
05:25I did a show on this very early on in my show, and I think about this a lot because it has
05:28got to become a foundational mythology because it says something kind of important and kind
05:34of true, right?
05:35It says something important and kind of true.
05:38And what I think it says that's important and kind of true is that men should worship
05:47morality, not women, right?
05:50Men should worship virtue, truth, reason, evidence.
05:55Men should worship virtue, not women.
06:01And the only way that you can end up being a good partner to a woman, a good husband
06:06and father, is to worship virtue, to have integrity, right?
06:12To worship a woman gives too much power to the woman and means that you can't have integrity
06:17because you are tugged around like a kite tail after her own particular whims.
06:23And the more you worship someone, the more their whims become powerful, in general, since
06:27people can't handle power, the worse things get as a whole.
06:32So if you sort of look at the West, when women were sort of more covered up, and when men
06:39— it's an old title of an article, it's like, men achieve more when it was harder
06:45to see boobs.
06:46And, you know, obviously that's kind of true, right?
06:48So when you had a society that worshipped God, and truth, and virtue, and integrity,
06:57and honor, and all of these sorts of things, then men and women were generally happier.
07:02Women were certainly better protected.
07:05And the idolatry of the woman is in opposition to morality, and of course that goes right
07:11back to the story of the Garden of Eden, that there's this moral rule that's provided,
07:15do not eat the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, and because of his deference
07:21to and worship of a woman, a curse was put upon mankind, right?
07:26We must love virtue, and we must love the truth, and we must love integrity, and then
07:36we can love women.
07:37But if we worship women, and I think that's idolatry, where these hyper-sexualized signals,
07:44right?
07:45I sort of talked about this before, these hyper-sexualized signals where, you know,
07:50you've got red lips indicate orgasm, a flush in the face like cheek rouging indicates sexual
07:58arousal, like these sort of high — this is like women walking around with — if a
08:03man had a sort of full-on Freddie Mercury phallus, right, and he's straining against
08:09his pants, right, that would be a sign of sort of sexual arousal.
08:14So if women are constantly parading around with signs of sexual arousal or the desire
08:23to be pretty to men, that is — it's kind of a hack, right?
08:29And it's always interesting to me, of course, as an older, bald male, it's always an interesting
08:34question, right?
08:35I mean, who knows more about libertarianism, someone like Robert Murphy or someone like
08:43Josie the Red-Headed Libertarian, right?
08:46And Robert Murphy, for all of his intellect, is not quite as attractive, I'm sure, to women
08:50as Josie in her prime would be to men.
08:54Is it a hack?
08:55Is it a cheat?
08:56Is it a fair contest, right?
08:58In other words, can — you know, it's the old question, can men do OnlyFans?
09:01Well, not really, right, certainly not compared to how women can do it.
09:07So when men turn away from the worship of virtue and truth and reason and evidence and
09:13science and progress and engineering and all these sorts of things, and men turn towards
09:19the worship of women, which is sort of the modern pay-as-you-go simp culture, what happens
09:26to society as a whole?
09:29What happens to society as a whole?
09:31I think it is easy to say that it does not go well.
09:39So the responses are interesting because when Pearl says, these women are not as attractive
09:51as you think they are, that they are faking their level of attractiveness.
09:57And it's kind of hard to argue that.
10:00I mean, I have — I think once or twice I put on — to cover up some sort of zit or
10:06something, mostly just because I don't want people to be distracted, I think like a couple
10:10of times over 20 years.
10:11But for the most part, I obviously — I mean, almost exclusively, I never put anything on
10:16my face or on my head.
10:18I just sit down and do a show.
10:21So I don't have any of that sort of stuff.
10:23I've never put makeup on for professional photographs, I've never tried to get massively
10:27flattering lighting, I just — I mean, the last couple of photos I got done for thumbnails
10:32was done in my study against sunlight.
10:36So anyway, I'm trying to get known — of course, want to be known for the quality of
10:40my thoughts rather than the quality of my appearance.
10:44What matters to me is to have a pleasant sounding voice, which I think I do, rather
10:49than, say, a full head of hair, which is not particularly important.
10:55So is it a hack?
10:56Is it something that is an unfair competition aspect, right?
11:03And I think that the answer is yes, it is an unfair competition to put — to have women
11:11fake their looks, and it is faking their looks.
11:14Now, with Courtney Nill, I mean, I assume that's her with less makeup, and that's her
11:20with — I don't know if there's makeup on up there, but, you know, breast meat hanging
11:25out kind of thing, that's just a program for men.
11:29So what happens is, of course, if she's saying, these women are faking their looks, which
11:34to some degree, of course, they are, I mean, that we can't argue with, right?
11:39To some degree, faking your looks is occurring, no question, right?
11:44May that be an understand.
11:47So then they say, well, how do you rank, right?
11:49And then they have unflattering pictures of Pearl.
11:53She was a little heavier in the past, she has, I think, gone to the gym and lost weight
11:58and so on, and she's a semi-pro volleyball player, so obviously very fit and so on.
12:04So saying that Pearl is not as attractive as some of these women in makeup or not in
12:11makeup is not the point.
12:14And of course, it does seem kind of catty.
12:16If the women were to say, well, yeah, I enhance my attractiveness because I want to get more
12:22attention from male listeners, and it gets me higher views than it would otherwise.
12:28I mean, if you were really, really good looking and you didn't have a video, you only did
12:34audio and nobody knew what you looked, I'm not sure that would be the wisest.
12:38It would be like Brad Pitt being only a radio actor or only doing audio books and stuff
12:43like that.
12:44I mean, nobody does that who's got that kind of looks.
12:46Everybody knows that looks can be monetized.
12:48And if you were to just say, yeah, I really, really enhance my looks because it helps get
12:53me more attention and, you know, I hope to do good with all of that attention and so
12:58on.
12:59Okay, that's just honest, but it seems to be the problem to me is the falsehood, right?
13:05That's the problem to me, right?
13:08That's the problem with me.
13:10It is that people can't just be honest about it.
13:12Yeah, I enhance my looks because it helps me get more viewers, right?
13:16It helps me get more.
13:17And now, you know, you can say, well, I hope to do good with all of the views that I'm
13:20getting.
13:21I'm gonna be doing virtue and promoting truth and goodness and all that, but all of that,
13:26right?
13:27That is the reality.
13:28But saying, if Pearl is saying these women are faking their looks, and then they say,
13:34well, you're not pretty, that's not the issue.
13:38But that is a lot of how women will have this kind of combat is if she says you're faking
13:44your looks.
13:45And, I mean, again, I don't know who this Paige woman is.
13:48I guess she's a golfer and so on.
13:51But yeah, I mean, come on, like, that's faking your looks, right?
13:57So if women say, yeah, I'm faking my looks, it gives me more views, gives me more money,
14:01men pay me to be pretty, and I look prettier with makeup, and I get more attention and
14:05all of that, that's fine.
14:07Well, okay, just be honest about it, right?
14:12And, you know, personally, she says, I admit as well, it's not an insult, what they're
14:18doing is fraud, is kind of the argument, right?
14:22Is it fraud to apply makeup and do your hair?
14:24Is it fraud to purchase cosmetic surgeries?
14:26No, it is not.
14:28Well, is it fraud to apply makeup and do your hair?
14:32Well, it's not if you say, this is not how I look, right?
14:39This kind of hyper-makeup stuff, so here's the problem, I mean, it's a lot of problems
14:44with it, right?
14:46So if men think that this is how women look, men will not be attracted to this, right?
14:51So what happens is, by getting all of this lighting and the hair, and this sort of bedhead
14:55stuff is like, so a woman who's virtually topless, who's smiling at you with bedhead,
15:00is post-coital gays, right?
15:03Oh, you were great in bed last night, whereas this is, you know, I've got a bunch of laundry
15:07to do for the kids, right?
15:08Nothing wrong with that, right?
15:10But the problem is, is that by realigning what men find attractive to hyper-makeup and
15:17professional photographs and professionally done hair, and like this stuff which takes
15:22hours and hours and hours to do, and it's absolutely unsustainable in a relationship
15:26where women, of course, put their hair up and walk around in sweatpants and so on.
15:30The problem is that it recalibrates men's brains to find something attractive that is
15:37not real.
15:39To find something attractive that is not real, and is not sustainable, and is not factual.
15:48And in other words, you are getting more male attention in the moment, honestly, I know
15:54this sounds like maybe it's an exaggeration, I really genuinely believe this, that you
15:58get more male attention and resources in the moment, but it comes at the expense of family
16:02formation and the birth rate in the future.
16:05Because men get programmed to find heavy makeup and all of that attractive, and then when
16:12they see a woman not with that, then they're no longer as attracted, or they no longer
16:18find it pretty.
16:19And women know that, right?
16:20So then women are constantly stressed about how they look, and can't relax, and can't
16:24be seen for who they are, and accepted for who they are, and they have a great terror
16:29of aging because they're not loved for who they are, they're loved for their looks.
16:33Like it really does take a massive hammer blow to pair bonding, and to dedication, to
16:39devotion, right?
16:40I mean, if you love a woman for how she looks, she's gonna age, right?
16:45She's gonna age.
16:46I mean, maybe Josie looked like this without all of that, probably not, right?
16:51But she looked, and she's got a very nice figure and all that kind of stuff, but maybe
16:55she looked like this when she was younger, and now she looks like this, well if you're
16:58into someone because of their looks, well they're gonna age.
17:02I mean, I've been doing my stuff for almost 20 years, and I sure as heck don't look the
17:06way that I looked 20 years ago.
17:08I mean, 58 is different from 38, does that mean that my wife looks older?
17:12Does that mean that we don't love each other?
17:14No, because we love virtue, and all of that.
17:18We worship virtue and love each other.
17:19When you worship virtue, you can love another person, if you worship another person, you
17:23can't be moral, because you're just trailing after them, right?
17:28So attacking Pearl's looks is not fair, and not valid, right?
17:37I mean, I don't even know that that's the same woman down here, was it JoJo from Jurassic?
17:45So when Pearl says these women don't look like that, and there are negative consequences
17:50to this kind of falsehood, and the negative consequences are, do you feel love for who
17:53you are?
17:54Do you feel love for how you look?
17:56Are you taking a shortcut to attention?
17:58I do think that we should aim to be virtuous, right?
18:03And we should be loved for our virtues, and that is fine.
18:09It's fine to be attractive, and you know, of course, the pair-bonded marital relationship
18:14is for children.
18:15Children, of course, require sexuality, so the foundation of marriage is sexuality, because
18:21you can be friends with people outside your marriage, you just can't have sex with them
18:23outside your marriage.
18:24Oh, is there more?
18:25There's more.
18:26Britney Venti?
18:27Yeah, from that to that.
18:28Yeah.
18:29I mean, it's sad, of course, that she has, I assume those are acne scars and so on, and
18:36that's tough.
18:37But if you think that this is how women look, and this is how a woman looks, you're going
18:41to have a tough time, right?
18:42You're going to have a tough time.
18:43Now, I think this is a comedian.
18:45I think she put an old lady filter on, and I think that's kind of different, right?
18:52Sarah Gonzalez?
18:53I mean, again, to me, this woman looks fine.
18:58This obviously is fake cupid doll stuff.
19:01I don't find that attractive at all.
19:03You think of kissing that and coming away with a face full of powder and lipstick.
19:07I think she looks fine, and all of that.
19:10Gosh, who's this?
19:11Who is this?
19:12Ada Lelouch?
19:13Let's see.
19:14Solid 8.5.
19:15And this is her without makeup.
19:17Ah, well, it's a big difference.
19:24Anna from TWG.
19:28I don't know who that is.
19:30Yeah, so that is not a very, very good thing.
19:37But yeah, so saying that Pearl lacks some classical features or whatever, she is not
19:42saying that she is as attractive, she is saying that these other women's looks are not real.
19:51And this is to some degree, of course, this is a sort of war of attrition, because if
19:59women use all of these makeup and filters and so on, then the women who don't may suffer a
20:05disadvantage. So this is, well, they will suffer a disadvantage, right? So if everyone, if all the
20:11men think that women have to look like this with all the makeup, and they look like that without
20:15the makeup, and I think even there's some makeup there too, right? If men think that women have to
20:23look like this, and then they look like this, then the women who don't wear makeup are viewed
20:28as significantly less attractive because they're not using as much makeup, right? Women are viewed
20:35as significantly less attractive, and that is harmful in the daily market for women who aren't
20:40wearing a lot of makeup. So I think it's a very interesting topic. And I suppose the equivalent
20:48would be for men, men who wear, you know, really good toupees, or who get this hair transplant
21:01surgery, or who fake being wealthy, and so on, or fake having attractive girlfriends,
21:08that that would be fake, right? So what was this, an old trick about a guy who would
21:17go through the receipts on a banking machine until there was someone who had a really high balance,
21:23and then he'd ask a girl out, she'd say no, and he'd write his number on the receipt with a
21:27really high bank balance, like a million or two million dollars, and then see if the woman would
21:31be more interested. So that's faking it, right? Is it faking it for a man to pretend that he's
21:35wealthy when he's not? Is it faking it for a man to get hair transplant surgery when he doesn't
21:42actually look like that, and so on, right? You know, it is kind of fake, right? It is kind of
21:50fake. So these are important. These are important questions to be asked, and
21:59I think it comes down, in the long run, it's going to come down to men overcoming their instincts,
22:03right? So for a man to say, this is a marker of significant insecurity and high maintenance,
22:10and this is a mark of a woman who is confident, right? So high makeup is
22:14high insecurity, high maintenance, high difficulty, high neurosis, high whatever,
22:19it's just going to be a tough relationship, right? Because the woman's going to be insecure if she
22:23looks like this, but this is a real woman who's going to love you, and kiss you, and raise your
22:28kids, and all of this kind of stuff, whereas this is a woman who's going to, you know,
22:34take you to court or something. I don't know about this woman, but just this sort of level
22:39of makeup, right? So really, it does come down to men, you know, resisting Eve, right? Resisting
22:46excessive female attractiveness. So in general, a woman wants to join you on your life journey,
22:52right? So my approach has always been, I'm going to a movie, would you like to come along,
22:57right? As opposed to, I'm going to a movie if you say yes, right? And if you don't say yes,
23:04I'm not going to the movie. For me, it's always been, I'm having a life, I'd love it if you'd
23:08join me. And I think in general, women find that deep down most attractive. That's some of the bad
23:13boy stuff, obviously, to access. But women in general find it most attractive when you're
23:18having a life and they can join, rather than they are your life. Because when you're staring at them
23:24and sighing over them, you're not hunting, you're not out there getting resources, you're not
23:27competing with other men. And if you worship her against integrity, honor, virtue, and truth,
23:35then you're not a stable person to have a relationship with. Because the only way a
23:40woman can really trust a man is based upon his integrity, his self-control, and his virtue.
23:45So I would say, look, the red-headed libertarian, obviously, is a brilliant
23:50woman. There's nothing she doesn't know about the Constitution and the Revolutionary Wars and
23:54a lot of other things. I personally don't think she needs all of that stuff any more than I need.
23:59You know, I could have decided to go public with wigs or hair transplants or something like that.
24:04I'd like to think I don't really need that stuff and so on, right? I mean, so I think it's up to
24:12men to pursue virtue. If you worship virtue, you can love women. If you worship women,
24:19nobody can love anyone. So I'd really focus on that. All right, freedomain.com slash donate.
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