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00:00With me, Adam Agee, we have a guest from Nona Rogai.
00:05If you guys check your aunts and uncles, you'll find out that Nona Rogai is a well-known brand.
00:12Nona is a woman.
00:14So, Rogai actually means healthy or health.
00:18But, it is also her sister's name.
00:21Sharifah Rogaiah.
00:22Sharifah Rogaiah.
00:23So, Nona Rogaiah.
00:25A healthy woman.
00:27When they were already going outside of Malaysia,
00:30this Indian man came and he said,
00:33Oh, your name is very good.
00:36Then, my grandma asked him, why?
00:38And then he said, because in Sanskrit,
00:41it sounds like Nana Arogai.
00:44Nana Arogai in Sanskrit?
00:45Yes, in Sanskrit.
00:46Many, many, no disease.
00:48Many, many, this is a coincidence?
00:50Coincidence.
00:51And I did google it.
00:53Nana means many, many.
00:55Arogai or Rogai, something like that.
00:57In short, it means no disease.
01:06The English poet said that money makes the world go round.
01:10In an age where everyone needs money,
01:13it is up to us what we want to do for a living.
01:17Some work, and some do business.
01:21Assalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh
01:23and selamat sejahtera kepada semua.
01:25This time, for this episode,
01:27in the podcast Duit Tepi with me, Adam Agee,
01:30we have a guest.
01:32The guest in our studio,
01:34from Nona Rogaiah.
01:36We have Puan Alia in the studio.
01:38Assalamualaikum, Puan.
01:39Waalaikumsalam.
01:41Alhamdulillah.
01:42Alhamdulillah.
01:43So, Nona Rogaiah, for a little background,
01:46is a health product.
01:49Probably, if you guys check your mom,
01:52or your sister,
01:53you will find that Nona Rogaiah is a well-known brand.
01:57So, while Puan Alia is in our studio today,
02:01we want to ask a little bit,
02:03actually a lot,
02:04about Nona Rogaiah,
02:06the behind-the-scenes,
02:08the business,
02:09and maybe we will select TikTok as well,
02:12because TikTok is a trend right now, right?
02:14So, Puan Alia,
02:16can you tell us a little,
02:18maybe the background of Nona Rogaiah?
02:20Okay.
02:21If you want to tell Nona Rogaiah the story itself,
02:25the brand,
02:27since 1991.
02:281991.
02:29But the tradition,
02:31has been going on for hundreds of years.
02:33I see.
02:34So, basically,
02:35what we remember,
02:36what Tok Mama told us,
02:38what Tok Mama told us,
02:39has been going on for more than 100 years.
02:41It started from her grandmother.
02:43Her grandmother?
02:44Yes, her grandmother.
02:45It goes way back.
02:46Way back.
02:471800s lah,
02:48like that.
02:49I see.
02:50So, basically,
02:51my family has a connection with
02:55the royal family of Kedah.
02:57So, if you guys know,
02:58if you are on TikTok always,
02:59you guys scroll, scroll,
03:00have you ever seen
03:02the royal family's recipe?
03:05British royal family,
03:06and everything.
03:07So, last time,
03:08people don't have medicine.
03:10So, when they don't have medicine,
03:11they have a lot of natural remedies.
03:13Right?
03:14So, when the royalties,
03:15they have a lot of them,
03:16because they want to look pretty,
03:18and everything.
03:19So, basically,
03:20my family has a connection.
03:21So, we do have a recipe
03:23for beauty,
03:24for health,
03:25for women,
03:26for family,
03:27everything.
03:28So, this has been going on a long time.
03:31So, her story with my Tok Mama,
03:34started with Tok Mama.
03:35Because Tok Mama,
03:36she,
03:37what do people say?
03:38She's like,
03:39busy wanting to know.
03:40Curious.
03:41So, when she's curious,
03:42she'll see what her mom does,
03:44what her mom does,
03:45like, okay,
03:46if she has a stomach ache,
03:47what will her mom do for her?
03:49Wipe the oil,
03:50everything, right?
03:51So, she'll see,
03:52oh, her mom goes looking for ingredients,
03:54and then makes herself,
03:55and things like that, right?
03:56So, she'll be like,
03:57oh, okay,
03:58this is for this ingredient,
03:59for this ingredient,
04:00for this ingredient.
04:01So, during her teenage years,
04:03she used a lot of all these natural remedies,
04:06especially when we reached puberty age,
04:09everything,
04:10like,
04:11we have to take care of ourselves,
04:13as a woman and all.
04:15And then, started with,
04:17she helped her friend.
04:20So, her story,
04:21her best friend,
04:23had a problem,
04:24inside a woman, you know.
04:26She,
04:27had like,
04:28like,
04:29prolonged bleeding,
04:30couldn't get pregnant,
04:31and things like that.
04:32So, she went to talk to her mom,
04:35and asked,
04:36okay,
04:37what can I give to my friend?
04:39So, at that time,
04:40her mom also came up with this,
04:42like a remedy,
04:43they call it Ramuan.
04:44Ramuan.
04:45So, that's where the word Jammu comes from.
04:47Jammu.
04:48Ramuan, okay.
04:49So, Ramuan,
04:50she gave it to her friend.
04:52And she did tell her,
04:53okay,
04:54when you take this,
04:55you have to follow,
04:56okay,
04:57how many days you have to eat,
04:58and then,
04:59what things you have to avoid,
05:00you have to block all these things,
05:01and then,
05:02hopefully,
05:03insyaAllah,
05:04it will help you.
05:05Okay,
05:06so after that,
05:07what happens is that,
05:08her friend took it,
05:09her friend did it,
05:10Alhamdulillah,
05:11it was really good.
05:12It was really good.
05:13Even the doctor at the hospital
05:14was shocked.
05:15How?
05:16Because she was already warded
05:17in the hospital.
05:18So,
05:19my grandma still gave the medicine.
05:20And it was good.
05:21The doctor was also shocked.
05:22How?
05:23You can,
05:24because she,
05:25like,
05:26basically,
05:27they want to throw away the womb,
05:28you know.
05:29They really,
05:30she has no,
05:31like,
05:32there is no future,
05:33there is no child anymore.
05:34She really doesn't have a child anymore.
05:35So, it was good.
05:36It was good,
05:37yes,
05:38yes,
05:39from what Tok Mama did.
05:40And she was pregnant
05:41up to six children.
05:46Oh,
05:47with Jammu,
05:48those six children,
05:50that was the first,
05:51I would say,
05:52the first,
05:53the impact.
05:54Yes.
05:55So,
05:56this story,
05:57indeed,
05:58my grandmother told,
05:59that was the,
06:00like,
06:01the point that she said,
06:02okay,
06:03this thing is really,
06:04really effective.
06:05Because,
06:06at that time,
06:07we were like,
06:08yes,
06:09she was,
06:10I think,
06:11she was early 20s,
06:1230s,
06:13like that.
06:14She was still young.
06:15She just had one or two children,
06:16like that.
06:17She was like,
06:18it was good,
06:19because we were a family,
06:20we were used to it.
06:21So, we were like,
06:22oh,
06:23it's okay,
06:24we eat as usual,
06:25like,
06:26daily thing,
06:27you know.
06:28So,
06:29we don't feel that it's something,
06:30like,
06:31really wow,
06:32right?
06:33So,
06:34when that happened,
06:35until her friend said,
06:36I think,
06:37my grandmother,
06:38people used to call her,
06:39Sherry,
06:40because Sharifah,
06:41right?
06:42Glamour name,
06:43Sherry.
06:44Sherry,
06:45Sherry,
06:46give me a mushroom,
06:47I don't want to be pregnant anymore,
06:48like that.
06:49Because,
06:50she already had six children,
06:51you know.
06:52Okay.
06:53Mushroom,
06:54not a child,
06:55mushroom,
06:56not a child,
06:57not a child.
06:58So,
06:59she was like,
07:00I don't want,
07:01I don't want to be pregnant anymore.
07:02So,
07:03that was the end of the story,
07:04she had the,
07:05what is this,
07:06like,
07:07like,
07:08passion,
07:09to share with everybody.
07:10So,
07:11that was a way in,
07:12I think,
07:1370s,
07:1480s,
07:15like that.
07:16It's been a long time.
07:17Then,
07:18when people already knew,
07:19oh,
07:20what,
07:21this lady,
07:22this thing,
07:23people called her,
07:24okay,
07:25she gave a talk here,
07:26because my grandmother,
07:27she really likes to talk,
07:28likes to tell stories.
07:29She likes to take stories,
07:30right?
07:31Then,
07:32she will tell stories,
07:33she likes to spill secrets.
07:34Oh,
07:35people from the village,
07:36people from the village,
07:37talk,
07:38like our family,
07:39right?
07:40It's supposed to be like,
07:41like,
07:42family,
07:43royal family secret,
07:44for example,
07:45like that,
07:46family recipe,
07:47right?
07:48So,
07:49like,
07:50people were like,
07:51eh,
07:52you,
07:53don't tell stories to people,
07:54we are,
07:55eh,
07:56good things,
07:57you have to share.
07:58So,
07:59you have to share with people,
08:00everything,
08:01right?
08:02So,
08:03people,
08:04in the past,
08:05they do it,
08:06just to help people only.
08:07They don't have,
08:08don't have,
08:09don't have,
08:10like,
08:11like,
08:12people,
08:13like,
08:14a lot of people,
08:15like,
08:16they want more,
08:17and more,
08:18and more.
08:19So,
08:20my grandmother said,
08:21okay,
08:22we come up with this business,
08:23right?
08:24So,
08:25at least,
08:26more people can also try,
08:27not just like us only.
08:28So,
08:29starting from there,
08:30my grandmother,
08:31she didn't know about,
08:32herbal medicine.
08:33Actually,
08:34if you search for her,
08:35Sharifa Anissa Barakbah,
08:36she is,
08:37the first one,
08:38that introduced,
08:39industry herbal,
08:40in Malaysia.
08:41Industry herbal,
08:42in Malaysia.
08:43Because,
08:44last time,
08:45in Malaysia,
08:46they only take,
08:47Indonesian herbs.
08:48If you know,
08:49Mustika Ratu,
08:50Sari Ayu,
08:51that is Indonesian.
08:52But,
08:53if Nona Rogai,
08:54or NR,
08:55is Malaysian,
08:56the first one.
08:57So,
08:58she is a pioneer.
08:59Yes,
09:00industry herbal,
09:01in Malaysia.
09:02So,
09:03starting from 1991,
09:04that's where,
09:05Nona Rogai,
09:06or NR started.
09:07By the way,
09:08disclaimer,
09:09we call Tok Mama,
09:10that is the name of,
09:11founder,
09:12Datin Sharifah.
09:13Now,
09:14Dato'.
09:15Dato' Sharifah.
09:16Dato' Sharifah Anissa.
09:17And,
09:18Puan Alia is the grandchild,
09:19to Tok Mama.
09:20The first grandchild.
09:21Yes.
09:22So,
09:23don't get confused.
09:24But,
09:25if you guys follow on TikTok,
09:26Tok Mama's account,
09:27will always be,
09:28always FYP.
09:29So,
09:30starting from there,
09:31and,
09:32I was born in,
09:33about few years before,
09:35she started,
09:36NR.
09:37And,
09:38I was there throughout,
09:39her journey.
09:40Starting from,
09:41when they just started,
09:43at that time,
09:44was very,
09:45very famous with MLM.
09:47Multi-Level Marketing.
09:48Very famous.
09:49So,
09:50they have all these talkies,
09:51agents,
09:52all those things.
09:53And,
09:54I have seen,
09:55Tok Mama,
09:56actually,
09:57from the business.
09:58Yes.
09:59From the business.
10:00Rumah Banglo,
10:01Haji,
10:02Umrah,
10:03like,
10:04now,
10:05famous.
10:06So,
10:07I've seen,
10:08the journey of,
10:09the business.
10:10Because,
10:11she's the pioneer of,
10:12the,
10:13industry.
10:14So,
10:15I've seen,
10:16like,
10:17back then,
10:18I remember,
10:19back then,
10:20they did it at BWTC.
10:21Now,
10:22it's changed to BWTC.
10:23So,
10:24BWTC,
10:25my parents,
10:26will be like,
10:27okay,
10:28my dad is the eldest son.
10:29So,
10:30he's one of the ones that,
10:31involved with the business,
10:32earlier on.
10:33Now,
10:34he has his own,
10:35profession.
10:36So,
10:37in the beginning,
10:38my parents will be like,
10:39okay,
10:40we want to go,
10:41this award.
10:42Okay,
10:43wear nice clothes.
10:44Like,
10:45grow up.
10:46At that time,
10:47I'm like,
10:484,
10:495 years old,
10:506 years old,
10:51like that.
10:52I will be like,
10:53this,
10:54sit in front.
10:55My parents will be like,
10:56like this.
10:57I think,
10:58the picture is still there.
10:59If you look at the album,
11:00there's a face like this.
11:01Look at my parents,
11:02like that.
11:03So,
11:04I am really,
11:05really amazed by her.
11:06And,
11:07I actually,
11:08for me,
11:09she is my mentor.
11:10So,
11:11when people ask about,
11:12the brand,
11:13actually,
11:14I have been sharing,
11:15this business for 10 years.
11:16Since 2014,
11:17which is just after,
11:18I gave birth to my,
11:19eldest son.
11:20So,
11:21my son is already,
11:2211 years old.
11:23So,
11:25apparently,
11:26there are still a lot of people,
11:27who don't know.
11:28Herbal medicine,
11:30there are still a lot of people,
11:31who don't know that,
11:32actually,
11:33your problem,
11:34there is only the solution.
11:35But,
11:36you have to be,
11:37you have to be patient.
11:38You can't be like,
11:39today,
11:40for example,
11:41you gave birth,
11:42tomorrow,
11:43I want to lose weight.
11:44You can't.
11:45No,
11:46it's not instant.
11:47It takes time,
11:48and it takes,
11:49patience,
11:50effort,
11:51and also,
11:52you have to be like,
11:53that's what I have,
11:54what is this,
11:55my understanding,
11:56from my family,
11:57everything.
11:58So,
11:59continue to the story.
12:00This story is long,
12:01because,
12:02just 90s.
12:03Just 90s.
12:04Okay,
12:05so,
12:06after that,
12:07actually,
12:08my family also has a treatment center.
12:09That means,
12:10if like,
12:11you have a problem with,
12:12like,
12:13what is this,
12:14TTC,
12:15or want to get pregnant,
12:16or you have a problem,
12:17like,
12:18women have problems,
12:19you actually can come,
12:20to the treatment center,
12:21have consultation,
12:22we can do the treatment.
12:23Where is the treatment center?
12:24The treatment center is at TTDI.
12:25TTDI.
12:26So,
12:27you can,
12:28they have massage,
12:29treatment,
12:30they have many,
12:31many other treatments,
12:32that you can do,
12:33including,
12:34we can make,
12:35special mix,
12:36that herbal for you.
12:37So,
12:38there is like,
12:39we added,
12:40to the brand,
12:41not just the commercial products,
12:42but they also have that.
12:43The others too.
12:44The others too.
12:45So,
12:46now,
12:47Alhamdulillah,
12:48indeed,
12:49product NR is very well known,
12:50from,
12:51more,
12:52three generations,
12:53from my parents,
12:54and also,
12:55my generation now,
12:56in using,
12:57what is this,
12:58herbal remedies.
12:59So,
13:00we also hoping,
13:01that a lot more people will,
13:02a lot more people,
13:03like Gen Y,
13:04Gen Z,
13:05will also embrace,
13:06this thing.
13:07So,
13:08for,
13:09okay,
13:10herbal medicine,
13:11for those,
13:12people say,
13:13the previous generations,
13:14the most senior,
13:15maybe,
13:16already familiar,
13:17our parents,
13:18eat this,
13:19so,
13:20our mothers,
13:21eat herbs,
13:22herbal remedies.
13:23But,
13:24I want to ask you,
13:25maybe,
13:26maybe people will,
13:27like,
13:28half,
13:29we want to give,
13:30people's perception,
13:31some people say,
13:32why do we want to eat,
13:33herbal medicine,
13:34while we have,
13:35contemporary medicine.
13:36Okay.
13:37So,
13:38what are the specialties,
13:39of herbal medicine,
13:40that people will,
13:41still take today,
13:42in comparison to,
13:43the modern medicine.
13:44Is it,
13:45they go,
13:46hand in hand,
13:47or as a supplement,
13:48or how?
13:49For,
13:50my,
13:51opinion,
13:52is that,
13:54complement,
13:55what is this,
13:56the normal medicine,
13:57like from the doctor,
13:58he,
13:59is just,
14:00a temporary relief.
14:01Temporary relief.
14:02But,
14:03if you take herbal medicine,
14:04you practice,
14:05it will,
14:06heal your body.
14:07So,
14:08you don't really need,
14:09the medicine anymore.
14:10Do you understand?
14:11So,
14:12actually,
14:13prevention is better than cure.
14:14Because,
14:15when you take the medicine,
14:16actually,
14:17it's like,
14:18you take,
14:19Panadol.
14:20So,
14:21when you take Panadol,
14:22it will be fine for a while,
14:23then,
14:24come back.
14:25Then,
14:26eat again.
14:27So,
14:28when you take,
14:29okay,
14:30for example,
14:31like,
14:32you need to know,
14:33why did you migrate?
14:34Is it because,
14:35you have a sinus problem?
14:36So,
14:37if you have a sinus problem,
14:38what is it?
14:39What is the way,
14:40if like,
14:41we have a supplement,
14:42we also have,
14:43what is it,
14:44it is,
14:45actually,
14:46I didn't bring it,
14:47like,
14:48respiratory problem.
14:49So,
14:50you can practice that thing.
14:51Then,
14:52for example,
14:53if like,
14:54you always have a bad cough,
14:55it's the same,
14:56take Panadol,
14:57right?
14:58Or,
14:59at most,
15:00you put,
15:01what is it,
15:02eat something like,
15:03like,
15:04I don't know,
15:05because,
15:06if I have a period pain,
15:07I will take Panadol,
15:08nothing else,
15:09right?
15:10So,
15:11in other words,
15:12if like,
15:13we have,
15:14herbal medicine,
15:15we have things,
15:16dependent on that thing,
15:17that's it.
15:18It's healthy for you,
15:19you know?
15:20For herbs,
15:21okay,
15:22there's a story,
15:23actually,
15:24I remember back in the day,
15:25almost 20 years ago,
15:26my mom,
15:27she really likes to eat herbs.
15:28Okay.
15:29And she will put it on the table
15:30in front of the TV,
15:31you know?
15:32So,
15:33as a little kid,
15:34we will sit in front of the TV,
15:35we see the little things,
15:36we,
15:37we don't know it's a herb,
15:38we don't know it's a herb.
15:39So,
15:40we eat,
15:41we don't eat one,
15:42we don't eat two,
15:43we eat up to six,
15:44I think seven.
15:45So,
15:46I used to eat herbs,
15:47but right now,
15:48because now,
15:49it's not that well.
15:50Back then,
15:51I only ate that.
15:52So,
15:53if it's like eating herbs,
15:54normally,
15:55we see that
15:56adults will eat it.
15:57If a kid eats it,
15:58is it a defect?
15:59I mean,
16:00will there be any consequences?
16:01Actually,
16:02I started taking it
16:03since I was like,
16:0411, 12.
16:05Ah,
16:0611, 12.
16:07So far,
16:08so good.
16:0911, 12,
16:10one of it is because,
16:11like I said,
16:12sometimes,
16:13it can also help
16:15if you have a cold,
16:16a cold stomach,
16:17gastric,
16:18and then,
16:19things like,
16:20you have a cold,
16:21you can also take it.
16:22So,
16:23actually,
16:24it's okay.
16:25You just have to know the dosage.
16:26Like,
16:27if adults,
16:28maybe take two capsules,
16:29kids can take one.
16:30I don't know.
16:31So,
16:32it has to be practiced
16:33until when
16:34or what you feel like it
16:35or how?
16:36Okay,
16:37if you have a problem,
16:38you have to frequent it.
16:40But,
16:41if you're okay,
16:42you're healthy,
16:43you don't need anything,
16:44you just do,
16:45use the things
16:46that you can take daily.
16:47For example,
16:48like we have
16:49Aka Herbenica.
16:50It's actually herbal tea.
16:51You can take that daily.
16:52No problem.
16:53That really helps
16:54for blood flow.
16:55Because blood flow,
16:56my grandmother always say that
16:57your gut
16:58and your
16:59blood,
17:00your flow in your body,
17:01blood flow,
17:02everything is very important.
17:03So,
17:04if your gut is healthy,
17:05your body is healthy.
17:06Everything starts from the inside.
17:07Yes,
17:08from the inside.
17:09Healthy inside,
17:10healthy outside.
17:11That's right.
17:13Since you've mentioned,
17:14I understand that
17:15your family has
17:16Harmony Herbal Tea.
17:18As a tea lover,
17:20I really like to drink tea
17:21from various brands.
17:23But,
17:24for herbal tea,
17:25do we have to drink it
17:27like,
17:28if we want to drink it,
17:29we have to drink it.
17:30Or do we have to have a dosage?
17:32Or how?
17:34Actually,
17:35for Harmony product,
17:36you can just take it
17:38as usual.
17:39But,
17:40the good thing is
17:41the tea can last you
17:42for 3 rounds of water.
17:44So,
17:45as long as you
17:46pour the water,
17:47as long as there's colour,
17:48you can just drink it.
17:49But,
17:50if you feel like
17:51you don't like the taste,
17:52you can add honey.
17:53Can I add sugar?
17:54No, you can't.
17:55Add honey.
17:57Less sugar.
17:58Less sugar.
17:59No sugar.
18:00Less sugar.
18:01Add honey, okay?
18:02Add honey.
18:03For the name,
18:04Nona Rogai,
18:05this name is
18:06iconic.
18:07Everyone knows it.
18:08But,
18:09the idea,
18:10where does it come from?
18:11That's what we want to know.
18:12Okay.
18:13Actually,
18:14there are 2 stories.
18:15I asked my grandma.
18:16Confirm her.
18:17I confirmed her.
18:18I said,
18:19Tok Mama,
18:20please tell us
18:21about the name,
18:22Nona Rogai.
18:23She said there are 2 stories.
18:24First is actually,
18:25how she came up with the name
18:26actually from her brother.
18:27Because,
18:28they are a family business.
18:29So,
18:30she is the marketer,
18:33the salesperson.
18:34You know,
18:35she talks and she tells
18:36about the product.
18:37Her elder sister is the one
18:38who makes the product.
18:39So,
18:40our manufacturer is
18:41in Alostar.
18:42Alostar.
18:43So,
18:44her sister lives in Alostar.
18:45So,
18:46the one who manages the business
18:47is her younger brother.
18:48So,
18:49they are,
18:50but now,
18:51they are all retired.
18:52They have
18:53their families
18:54to take over.
18:55But,
18:56that is how it started.
18:57So,
18:58Nona Rogai,
18:59Nona is
19:00a woman.
19:01A woman.
19:02A woman.
19:03So,
19:04Rogai actually means
19:05healthy or health.
19:06But,
19:07it is also
19:08her sister's name.
19:09Sharifah Rogaiah.
19:10Sharifah Rogaiah.
19:11So,
19:12Nona Rogaiah.
19:13So,
19:14a healthy woman.
19:15Healthy.
19:16Healthy.
19:17So,
19:18to start,
19:19the first,
19:20why they call Nona Rogaiah.
19:21And also,
19:22she said,
19:23for men,
19:24it can be gay.
19:25I said,
19:26okay,
19:27it makes sense.
19:28It can be.
19:29For men,
19:30it can be gay.
19:31It's good.
19:32Right?
19:33After that,
19:34when they were already
19:35going
19:36outside of Malaysia,
19:37they were also
19:38promoted,
19:39I think,
19:40in the US or something like that.
19:41Last time.
19:42There was this Indian man
19:45came and he said,
19:46oh,
19:47your name is very good.
19:48Then,
19:49my grandma asked him,
19:50why?
19:51And then,
19:52he said,
19:53because in Sanskrit,
19:54it sounds like
19:55Nana Arogai.
19:57Nana Arogai in Sanskrit?
19:58Yes,
19:59in Sanskrit.
20:00Then,
20:01she asked what it means.
20:02It means,
20:03many, many, no disease.
20:04Many, many, this is a coincidence.
20:05Coincidence.
20:06Then,
20:07I googled it.
20:08I googled it.
20:09I said,
20:10okay,
20:11it's true.
20:12I checked it now.
20:13It's true.
20:14I checked.
20:15It's true.
20:16Nana means many, many.
20:17Nana means many, many.
20:18Arogai or Rogai,
20:19something like that.
20:20More or less,
20:21it means no disease.
20:22No disease.
20:23Wow.
20:24So,
20:25no disease.
20:26Many, many, no disease.
20:27Many, many, no disease.
20:28There is no disease.
20:29Like that.
20:30So,
20:31there are two.
20:32From the initial,
20:33their name
20:34that they came up with,
20:35and then,
20:36coincidentally,
20:37in Sanskrit,
20:38it means,
20:39whatever we want to achieve,
20:40we don't want to have a disease.
20:41Like that.
20:42Okay.
20:43Nona Rogai,
20:44in Malaysia,
20:45people already know.
20:46Obviously.
20:47And,
20:48if customers want to order,
20:49it can be online.
20:50And then,
20:51physical stores can also go.
20:52If there are
20:53customers from abroad,
20:54so,
20:55for them to order,
20:56is it through online
20:57or
20:58Nona Rogai
20:59is also
21:00abroad?
21:01Currently,
21:02in Singapore,
21:03Brunei does have it.
21:04But,
21:05usually,
21:06for overseas
21:07customers,
21:08they have to
21:09direct us.
21:10So,
21:11we will send it.
21:12Because,
21:13we have
21:14requirements
21:15of the product.
21:16So,
21:17sometimes,
21:18the ingredients
21:19in this country
21:20are not allowed.
21:21So,
21:22usually,
21:23we will ask them to direct us.
21:24If you want to order,
21:25we just send it to you.
21:26Like that.
21:27Because,
21:28this is from my experience.
21:29In sending products
21:30overseas,
21:31you have to come up
21:32with the full
21:33ingredient list.
21:34You have to tell
21:35the ingredients.
21:36Why?
21:37So,
21:38there are some countries
21:39that are easy to send.
21:40Like,
21:41so far,
21:42we have sent it to
21:43Australia,
21:44the US.
21:45But,
21:46there are not many
21:47products from
21:48Malaysia.
21:49Because,
21:50these herbal products
21:51are mostly used
21:52in Southeast Asia
21:53and Asian countries.
21:54We are the only ones
21:55who eat a lot
21:56in this area.
21:57And,
21:58I have also been
21:59told that
22:00for health products,
22:01if you want to
22:02get it,
22:03you have to
22:04go through
22:05quality control
22:06and KKM.
22:07So,
22:08for NR,
22:09to go through
22:10all that process,
22:11how was it?
22:12How was the experience?
22:13Okay.
22:14Based on
22:15what we've
22:16gone through
22:17so far,
22:18if you guys
22:19see,
22:20people who
22:21buy the products
22:22actually,
22:23customers,
22:24we need to
22:25educate them.
22:26For example,
22:27for KKM,
22:28they actually
22:29have two types
22:30of certification.
22:31One is called
22:32N.O.T.
22:33N.O.T.
22:34N.O.T. is short
22:35for Notification.
22:36So,
22:37they put N.O.T.
22:38N.O.T.
22:39is mostly
22:40for external products.
22:42External products,
22:43soap products,
22:44like that.
22:45But,
22:46not with
22:47any herbal
22:48ingredients.
22:50So,
22:51if you have
22:52any type of
22:53ingredients
22:54that KKM
22:55says are
22:56herbal products,
22:57you have to
22:58register under
22:59M.A.L.
23:00But,
23:01it's M.A.L.
23:02It's in front of
23:03their
23:04label.
23:06It's written M.A.L.
23:07M.A.L.
23:08I can't see it here.
23:09It's below
23:10the label.
23:11It's below
23:12the name
23:13of the herbal oil.
23:14M.A.L.
23:152003.
23:17So,
23:18M.A.L.
23:19is the highest
23:20form of
23:21certification.
23:22I see.
23:23It needs
23:24at least
23:256 months
23:26to 1 year.
23:27You have to
23:28send all
23:29the research
23:30for all the
23:31ingredients.
23:32And,
23:33it has to be
23:34in a safe
23:35dosage.
23:36So,
23:37it's very
23:38strict.
23:39Even if you
23:40want to advertise,
23:41you have to go
23:42through the
23:43agency
23:44to get
23:45approved.
23:46Then,
23:47you can advertise.
23:48They have to
23:49check
23:50M.A.L.
23:51before we
23:52make it.
23:53Yes,
23:54before we
23:55sell the
23:56product.
23:57So,
23:58it's been
23:59a few decades.
24:00So,
24:01it's okay.
24:02But,
24:03it needs
24:04renewal.
24:05Then,
24:06they will
24:07have new
24:08regulations.
24:09So,
24:10it's challenging.
24:11And,
24:12honestly,
24:13in Malaysia,
24:14the longer
24:15you see
24:16the
24:17herbal products
24:18with M.A.L.
24:19certification
24:20and
24:21going through
24:22all the
24:23processes,
24:24it's not
24:25that many.
24:26So,
24:27it's a
24:28challenge
24:29for N.R.
24:30And also,
24:31for our
24:32market in
24:33Malaysia,
24:34we have
24:35a lot of
24:36herbal products
24:37that people
24:38have been
24:39using for
24:40generations.
24:41So,
24:42what is
24:43N.R.'s
24:44challenge
24:45to go
24:46through
24:47the
24:48Malaysian
24:49market?
24:50We started
24:51at CD
24:52and to
24:53convince
24:54our people
24:55to use
24:56it.
24:57Current
24:58situation,
24:59people lack
25:00of education
25:01actually.
25:02So,
25:03actually,
25:04for example,
25:05if you look
25:06at some
25:07doctors,
25:08they're very
25:09against,
25:10especially
25:11the herbal
25:12products.
25:13Because,
25:14they hear
25:15the stories
25:16that are
25:17not good.
25:18They don't
25:19know that
25:20for N.R.
25:21products,
25:22we only
25:23use 100
25:24herbs.
25:25So,
25:26we can't
25:27alter
25:28the problem
25:29that you have.
25:30It's like
25:31the ingredients
25:32that we eat
25:33everyday.
25:34For example,
25:35cengkih,
25:36jintan,
25:37halia,
25:38halba,
25:39the usual
25:40ingredients
25:41like curry,
25:42tom yum,
25:43common,
25:44familiar.
25:45So,
25:46we have to
25:47educate them
25:48that when
25:49you take
25:50this type
25:51of product,
25:52which is
25:53N.R.,
25:54what effect
25:55as per you
25:56see,
25:57people will
25:58tell you
25:59the bad
26:00things,
26:01because
26:02it's
26:03a thing
26:04that you
26:05take everyday.
26:06I'll give
26:07you some
26:08examples.
26:09There are
26:10herbal
26:11products
26:12or
26:13herbal
26:14products
26:15that they
26:16put ingredients
26:17that if
26:18you take
26:19everyday,
26:20it can
26:21alter your
26:22body.
26:23Because
26:24this type
26:25of ingredients,
26:26they call it
26:27herbal
26:28for
26:29illness only.
26:31It's
26:32not for
26:33everyday.
26:34If it's
26:35N.R.,
26:36it can be
26:37everyday.
26:38Because
26:39it's like
26:40what you
26:41eat everyday.
26:42For example,
26:43the ingredients
26:44are like
26:45manjakani,
26:46tongkat ali,
26:47akas rapat,
26:48even kunyit
26:49is also
26:50quite controversial
26:51because kunyit
26:52has,
26:53even though
26:54we eat it
26:55everyday,
26:56but in excess
26:57it's not good.
26:58Because kunyit
26:59is like
27:00drying.
27:01It has
27:02the effect
27:03of drying.
27:04So,
27:05for example,
27:06like
27:07after
27:08giving birth,
27:09okay,
27:10so after
27:11giving birth,
27:12what Tok Mama
27:13taught me is
27:14you have to
27:15make sure
27:16your
27:17breath
27:18has to
27:19come out
27:20properly.
27:21So,
27:22when people
27:23practice
27:24kunyit,
27:25like after
27:26giving birth,
27:27they eat
27:28kunyit and
27:29all those things,
27:30right?
27:31They will
27:32dry it,
27:33then they
27:34can also
27:35dry their
27:36milk.
27:37So,
27:38people don't
27:39know about
27:40that.
27:41So,
27:42when it's
27:43like that,
27:44people are
27:45like,
27:46I can't
27:47breastfeed my
27:48child.
27:49Why?
27:50Because
27:51everything
27:52is already
27:53curated
27:54for you
27:55to use
27:56while
27:57breastfeeding.
27:58So,
27:59while we're
28:00talking about
28:01breastfeeding,
28:02I'll moderate
28:03you.
28:04We'll moderate
28:05each other.
28:06So,
28:07is this
28:08the breastfeeding
28:09set?
28:10Yes.
28:11Can you
28:12tell us
28:13a little
28:14about
28:15the product
28:16here?
28:17Okay,
28:18for the
28:19breastfeeding
28:20set,
28:21we have
28:22Aka,
28:23Aka Benika,
28:24Phytonatal,
28:25and also
28:26Krim Barut.
28:27So,
28:28there are
28:29two products
28:30to eat
28:31and also
28:32two
28:33external
28:34products.
28:35So,
28:36this is
28:37a very
28:38basic
28:39set.
28:40If you
28:41want to
28:42go further,
28:43there are
28:44many
28:45more
28:46products
28:47you can
28:48buy.
28:49But
28:50for the
28:51breastfeeding
28:52set,
28:53there is
28:54a set
28:55called
28:56Harmony.
28:57So,
28:58basically,
28:59this set
29:00has
29:01oil.
29:02You can
29:03use this
29:04oil to
29:05massage
29:06your body.
29:07You can
29:08use it
29:09on your
29:10head,
29:11body,
29:12everywhere.
29:13The
29:14purpose
29:15of Krim Barut
29:16is to
29:17actually,
29:18okay,
29:19this
29:20is also
29:21controversial.
29:22People
29:23say,
29:24it's okay
29:25if you don't
29:26use this.
29:27You
29:28misunderstand.
29:29You
29:30don't
29:31use this
29:32because
29:33you don't
29:34want to
29:35avoid
29:36swelling.
29:37Okay?
29:38So,
29:39the thing
29:40is,
29:41when you
29:42give birth,
29:43your
29:44abdomen
29:45is hanging
29:46not to
29:47prevent
29:48swelling.
29:49Okay,
29:50that's one
29:51of the
29:52advantages.
29:53But,
29:54it also
29:55helps with
29:56your posture
29:57because you
29:58want to
29:59breastfeed,
30:00right?
30:01You
30:02can't
30:03slouch like
30:04that.
30:05Your
30:06posture,
30:07you don't
30:08feel like
30:09it's hanging
30:10from your
30:11body.
30:12Because
30:13I have
30:14three children
30:15and
30:16I
30:17have
30:18four
30:19children.
30:20So,
30:21I
30:22don't
30:23feel like
30:24I'm
30:25slouching.
30:26I
30:27don't
30:28feel like
30:29I'm
30:30slouching.
30:31So,
30:32the
30:33thing is,
30:34when
30:35you
30:36give birth,
30:37you
30:38don't
30:39want to
30:40slouch like
30:41that.
30:42You
30:43don't
30:44want to
30:45do
30:46that.
30:47You
30:48don't
30:49want
30:50to
30:51slouch like
30:52that.
30:53So,
30:54the
30:55thing is,
30:56when you
30:57give birth,
30:58you
30:59don't
31:00want to
31:01slouch like
31:02that.
31:03So,
31:04you
31:05don't
31:06want to
31:07slouch like
31:08that.
31:09So,
31:10you
31:11don't
31:12want to
31:13do
31:14that.
31:15So,
31:16when
31:17you
31:18give birth,
31:19you
31:20don't
31:21want to
31:22slouch like
31:23that.
31:24So,
31:25the
31:26thing is,
31:27when
31:28you
31:29give birth,
31:30you
31:31don't
31:32want to
31:33slouch like
31:34that.
31:35So,
31:36when
31:37you
31:38give birth,
31:39you
31:40don't
31:41want to
31:42slouch like
31:43that.
31:44So,
31:45when
31:46you
31:47give birth,
31:48you
31:49don't
31:50want to
31:51slouch like
31:52that.
31:53So,
31:54the
31:55thing is,
31:56when
31:57you
31:58give birth,
31:59you
32:00don't
32:01want to
32:02slouch like
32:03that.
32:04So,
32:05when
32:06you
32:07give birth,
32:08you
32:09don't
32:10want to
32:11slouch like
32:12that.
32:13So,
32:14basically,
32:15as
32:16an
32:17introduction
32:18to
32:19NR,
32:20try it.
32:21Because
32:22honestly,
32:23if your
32:24family
32:25do not
32:26handle
32:27herbal
32:28products,
32:29usually,
32:30they will
32:31take it
32:32after
32:33giving birth.
32:34So,
32:35usually,
32:36they will
32:37take it
32:38after
32:39giving birth.
32:40So,
32:41it's
32:42a
32:43very
32:44famous
32:45oil.
32:46So,
32:47in the
32:48past,
32:49people
32:50didn't
32:51know
32:52the
32:53name,
32:54so
32:55they
32:56called
32:57it
32:58purple
32:59oil and
33:00green
33:01oil.
33:02If
33:03people
33:04ask
33:05NR,
33:06purple
33:07oil or
33:08green
33:09oil,
33:10they
33:11will
33:12say
33:13purple
33:14oil.
33:15So,
33:16this
33:17is
33:18the
33:19original
33:20version.
33:21So,
33:22this
33:23is
33:24the
33:25original
33:26version.
33:27So,
33:28this
33:29is
33:30the
33:31original
33:32version.
33:33So,
33:34this
33:35is
33:36the
33:37original
33:38version.
33:39And
33:40if you
33:41want to
33:42use it
33:43daily,
33:44it helps
33:45with
33:46your
33:47blood
33:48circulation.
33:49So,
33:50you can
33:51just put
33:52it on
33:53your
33:54feet
33:55and
33:56use
33:57your
33:58socks
33:59for
34:00your
34:01circulation.
34:02The
34:03oil
34:04is
34:05famous
34:06by
34:07So, this minyak angin is for everything.
34:11Sakit perut, luka, whatever, gatal, everything.
34:17So, we use the minyak berubah-rubah for everything.
34:20Dia berangin sikit.
34:21So, best lah.
34:22Kadang kita perut berangin, nak bagi keluar angin kan,
34:25kita macam bila rasa sejuk-sejuk.
34:26Tuh, cuma rasa macam...
34:27Bila sapu-sapu dia...
34:31And also, I use if I have batuk, batuk kahak, apa semua kan.
34:36Usually, kita orang kapok-kapokan, esok tuh memang keluar lah.
34:40Kids pun okay juga.
34:41Dia berangin sikit lah.
34:42Dia not so panas.
34:45Kids boleh pakai, adults boleh pakai.
34:48Orang tua boleh pakai.
34:50And it's mesra kulit sensitif.
34:52So, kalau people ada eczema ke apa, okay.
34:55Boleh.
34:57Untuk pakai...
34:58Kira untuk pakai brand-brand barang-barang NR,
35:01adakah kita kena consult dulu?
35:04Maknanya kalau macam, oh, I want to use this.
35:06Kita nak pakai salah satu product NR.
35:08Boleh terus beli ataupun kena recommend,
35:11jumpa, buat consultation first, baru proceed atau bagaimana?
35:14Actually, untuk kalau benda biasa,
35:17macam contohnya, you nak kurus.
35:19Dia orang ada je produk-produk yang dia orang memang dah khas kan.
35:22You ambil macam contohnya, Fito Figo.
35:25Actually, they have a lot of products lah.
35:27So, nanti dia orang akan tanya juga sebenarnya.
35:29Because, kita orang tak nak bagi you something
35:31yang doesn't work on you.
35:32So, usually dia orang akan tanya,
35:34okay, you ada sembilik ke tak?
35:37Apa you punya purpose nak ambil?
35:39You nak kurus ke apa?
35:40So, the consultants will recommend to you lah.
35:44So, basically, all of NR punya products
35:48started with three products je.
35:51Ya, internal medicine punya product lah.
35:53Dia orang pakai internal cleanser.
35:54Internal cleanser.
35:55Lawas angin, lawas kencang, lawas segar.
35:59Lawas kencang, lawas segar.
36:01Lawas angin.
36:03Masih jual lagi, dia dalam untuk serbuk tau.
36:07Campur dalam air ke?
36:09Yes, campur air minum.
36:11That is the OG.
36:14The original ones lah.
36:15So, from there, where dia orang come up with the combination lah
36:19untuk keluar all the capsules.
36:23So, kalau macam you memang dah daripada dulu
36:25you ambil the serbuk, continue je lah.
36:28Teruskan saja.
36:29Tapi, usually orang-orang yang consult dulu ni
36:31adalah the ones yang baru nak try lah.
36:34Tapi, selalunya orang yang baru kenal tu
36:37is starting from the set bersalin lah.
36:40Kita ada set bersalin, kita ada minyak,
36:42dan kita ada juga buku.
36:45Dua buku dekat sini.
36:47So, kita ada satu, Adab Dalam Pantang Bersalin
36:50Dari Sudut Dunia Perbedaanan Melayu.
36:52Dengan satu lagi.
36:54This is the only book in the whole of the world
36:58that talks about Perbedaanan Melayu.
37:01Encyclopedia.
37:02This book actually Tok Mama buat
37:05and people guna untuk buat thesis.
37:08Buku ni?
37:09Yes.
37:10This book ada, actually rahsia dia semua dalam ni.
37:14All the recipe.
37:16Semua dalam tu?
37:17Ya, recipe untuk buat produk pun ada.
37:20So, kalau nak tahu siapa-siapa yang follow Tok Mama tu
37:23banyak je yang beli buku ni.
37:25Oh ya, daripada buku Tok Mama,
37:29diorang buat ni, ni, ni, ni.
37:30Rawatan-rawatan, ni semua ada.
37:31Semua?
37:32Wow!
37:33Umandi, wap, bertangas.
37:35So, sebenarnya you beli buku ni,
37:37you boleh pandang sendiri je.
37:38So, dengan satu buku semua dah boleh?
37:40Semua ada.
37:41Ada, semua.
37:42Even like Ruam Lampin dia buat.
37:47Penyakit Kuning.
37:48And then dia bagi tahu like,
37:50lepas bersalin apa common problems budak-budak.
37:52Semua dia dah bagi tahu.
37:53Semua ada dekat dalam tu?
37:54every time when people ask me can do
37:56no I put this in one interview la
37:58could a baby tanya a so I learned
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