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00:00In this show, we ask the celebrities we all know to make a survey based on their thoughts on Summer's.
00:06And we use only their answers to create a new guest talk show where the two guests talk from their own perspectives.
00:19Today's guest is also a well-known actor.
00:22Mr. Yutaka Matsushige, who plays the lead role in Kodoku no Gurume.
00:26I'm going to add a little twist to this.
00:32Yutaka Matsushige's unstoppable answer to Kodoku no Gurume.
00:36And more!
00:40Mimura's Summer's Live behind-the-scenes story.
00:44When you're shooting a drama, is there a time when you think,
00:47it would be so much easier if I didn't have this time?
00:50What kind of time is that?
00:52I want to go home right away.
00:54But it's different when you're a director.
00:56You realize that you need this time.
00:58You realize that you can't do anything without this time.
01:01For example, in this show,
01:05there's a scene where we have to eat.
01:08We film that after we get home.
01:11There are times when we do it while we're there.
01:13I think that's a waste of time.
01:16It's not a waste.
01:18It's not a waste.
01:21We're waiting at the venue.
01:24It looks like it's going to end in a little while.
01:27When I go to see what's going on,
01:29AD-chan is making tea with chopsticks.
01:32I'm sorry.
01:33It takes time.
01:34It takes about two hours.
01:36It's a lot of work.
01:39I'm already drunk.
01:41I'm going to eat now.
01:42You're going to wake up and say nothing.
01:44I think it's a lot of work.
01:46Let's listen.
01:48Test.
01:50It's a one-shot production.
01:53All the scenes where we eat are one-shot.
01:55That's great.
01:57We don't need a test.
01:59It's a one-shot test.
02:01If it's a test, you won't be able to eat.
02:03It's a delicious face.
02:04First reaction.
02:05It's rare to do that in a drama.
02:08This is definitely a lonely gourmet.
02:13I'm sure you're hungry.
02:16I saw it in the making film.
02:19It's hard to catch up with the camera.
02:21The order of eating is decided.
02:24That's right.
02:25If you don't decide, you can't finish the miso soup.
02:29In that sense, our variety shows are all one-shot.
02:33The scene where we eat.
02:35That's right.
02:36I don't like it.
02:37If you eat like this, you can't take your face at all.
02:41That's right.
02:43It's low.
02:44I eat it all at once.
02:46I don't care about it in this show.
02:49It's the height to eat.
02:51That's right.
02:52It's a lesson.
02:53If you eat like this.
02:54This is not made for eating.
02:57It's a room where you can relax after eating.
02:59That's right.
03:01Did you do that in your own movie?
03:04I did.
03:05Without a test.
03:06This is one of the highlights.
03:08I didn't test it.
03:09Even if it tastes surprising.
03:11I have to put out a surprising face.
03:14I thought it was sweet, but it was spicy.
03:20The impression when I ate it.
03:23Is it the face of the impression decided by the script?
03:26When I ate it, it was a little sour.
03:31You have to add it.
03:32That's right.
03:33I have to remember that.
03:36I can't put it in my mouth.
03:38When I ate it, I thought it was sweet, but it was spicy.
03:42I thought it was sweet, but it was spicy.
03:44I thought it was spicy, but it wasn't.
03:46I put soy sauce on it, but I didn't need it.
03:50I put soy sauce on it, but I didn't need it.
03:53There may be a real impression.
03:57Did you write it down?
03:59That's right.
04:00What did I say?
04:02I said something good.
04:04Isn't that Mr. Otake?
04:05Isn't that Mr. Otake?
04:07Is that Mr. Otake?
04:09In the rehearsal of the story,
04:12when I said something in the ad-lib,
04:14I had to act for 10 minutes.
04:16After 10 minutes, I said to the writer,
04:19I said something good at that time.
04:22I said something that wasn't in the script.
04:24What did I say?
04:25I didn't say anything.
04:26I didn't say anything.
04:29I didn't say anything.
04:32I asked him to watch it.
04:37What is the recommended food that you eat after quitting drinking?
04:42I want to quit drinking.
04:45It's not that you don't drink from the beginning.
04:47It's after quitting drinking.
04:48Will it change?
04:49What do you eat after quitting drinking?
04:51I don't need salty food.
04:54Do you eat something like a snack?
04:55I wonder if there is.
04:56I wonder if there is.
04:58I saw it earlier.
05:00It may be something sweet.
05:02You don't eat something sweet when you drink.
05:04If it's a medium-sized drink,
05:07I don't need it when I say,
05:10I'm going to eat dessert.
05:12I still want to drink.
05:14Let's take a look.
05:16I have prepared it.
05:18Excuse me.
05:19Did it come out?
05:20Yes.
05:22You shouldn't have prepared this.
05:24That's right.
05:26I don't need it.
05:28I saw it.
05:30I want you to make a mistake.
05:33I don't need it.
05:35It's a mistake.
05:37Let's take a look.
05:39This is Furikake rice.
05:40You didn't prepare this, did you?
05:42This is Furikake rice.
05:44I only know Furikake rice.
05:46I know various kinds of Furikake rice.
05:48That's right.
05:51I eat Katsuo, Goma-yan, and Aosa-kun.
05:58I stopped drinking and ate a lot of white rice.
06:03I see.
06:04I ate it for dinner.
06:06When I drink, I don't need white rice.
06:10So there is a Furikake rice called Katsuo, Goma-yan, and Aosa-kun.
06:15I didn't expect this.
06:18I didn't expect you to prepare this.
06:21Is this Furikake rice?
06:23Let's take a look.
06:25U-NEXT.
06:27This looks very delicious.
06:29He eats a lot of recommended Furikake rice.
06:31And he goes to a glasses shop.
06:34If Yutaka Matsushige is not an actor, U-NEXT is the only truth.
06:40I heard that you are afraid of something.
06:42What is the scariest thing?
06:45I'm afraid.
06:47The room is so large, isn't it?
06:49I was surprised by the room.
06:51I've never been into a haunted house.
06:54I'm afraid of people who can't move.
06:58I'm afraid of people who have to go through the door.
07:00If you open the door, people will definitely move.
07:04People will definitely move.
07:06The moment you hold the door handle.
07:08I'm afraid of people who can't move.
07:12I don't want to play such a bad game.
07:16That's no good.
07:17Until you pay for it.
07:19Everyone goes there.
07:21It's true.
07:22It's like, give me something scarier.
07:24Like cockroaches.
07:26What kind of situation is scary about cockroaches?
07:30When they're talking like this,
07:32everyone looks this way.
07:35What?
07:37What?
07:39Like this.
07:42Everyone doesn't say,
07:44don't scare me.
07:46They don't.
07:47They just want to kill you with a weapon.
07:52Are you scared?
07:53Yes, I am.
07:54What's scary?
07:55For example?
07:56What's scary?
07:57The situation right now is the scariest.
07:59You're scared?
08:00I bit too much.
08:02You're scared of yourself?
08:03I'm scared of myself.
08:05You're scared of yourself?
08:06You bite this much?
08:07Yes.
08:08It's fine.
08:09It's a kind of debut.
08:11That's right.
08:12It's totally fine.
08:14When you become famous,
08:16for the first year,
08:17you say, there was a time like this,
08:19and you'll appear in the final episode.
08:21That's right.
08:22Anything is fine.
08:24I'll do my best to make it funny.
08:26That's good.
08:28There was a time like that.
08:30You're so chubby right now.
08:34Let's listen.
08:36I want to take a break,
08:38but I'm scared that I won't have anything to do.
08:40It's from a great angle.
08:42That's great.
08:43I understand.
08:45I think you're really busy right now.
08:49You've been doing this since you were 20.
08:52I think you're the busiest when you're 60.
08:57Don't you think so?
08:58Yes.
08:59You decide it on your own.
09:01Do I have physical strength?
09:03Don't you have any hobbies?
09:06I think so.
09:08Don't you usually have a lot of pressure from work?
09:12That's the same for us.
09:14Two or three days.
09:16I'm busy from morning to night.
09:18How many hours do I work?
09:20And then suddenly,
09:21I'm scared when I'm off for four days.
09:23It's the third day when I'm off for four days.
09:25You don't have anything to do.
09:27I don't need this much time off.
09:29I'm out of energy.
09:32Now that the camera is rolling, I'm energetic.
09:35You don't usually make such a loud voice.
09:37When I'm at home,
09:42I don't have to do anything because I don't have work tomorrow.
09:45I don't shave my beard.
09:47When I'm off, I do that.
09:50I've decided on a lot of things.
09:52I don't need to do anything because I'm off.
09:55I don't need to eat anything.
09:57I think I'll be like that.
10:01I don't want that to happen.
10:03I don't want to be in between.
10:06But when I'm working,
10:08I work too hard.
10:10I don't get enough sleep.
10:12I understand.
10:14That's the scariest thing.
10:16It's scary.
10:18It's scary.
10:20Have you ever been scolded or pointed out by someone recently?
10:25I'm over 60 years old.
10:27You don't get scolded.
10:29I don't get scolded.
10:31Especially when I'm a director.
10:33I'm the one who gets scolded the most.
10:35That's right.
10:37Let's hear it.
10:39I've been living a life that I'm not particular about.
10:43When I asked the movie producer,
10:45I'm not particular about it.
10:47He asked me,
10:49Where is it?
10:51I was particular about it.
10:53I see.
10:55You decide everything in detail.
10:57You're very particular about it.
10:59I see.
11:01That's a good thing.
11:03Yes.
11:05You're very particular about it.
11:07You're doing it on your own.
11:09You have a lot of talent.
11:11When I opened the door of the restaurant,
11:16I finished shooting.
11:18The calendar for July 2024 was displayed.
11:24It will be released in January of 2025.
11:27I asked if I should re-shoot it.
11:29The producer said,
11:31Why don't you delete it?
11:33No, I can't.
11:35Call everyone.
11:37Call everyone.
11:39There were a lot of people at the restaurant at that time.
11:41Call everyone.
11:43It's been 10 days since then.
11:45Call everyone.
11:47I think it's cheaper to delete it.
11:50Call everyone.
11:52I think it's possible.
11:54You're so particular about it.
11:56I think so.
11:58I think so.
12:00I have an image that a movie director is amazing.
12:02It's interesting.
12:04Yes.
12:06What would you do if you put your vegetables in the middle name between Matsushige and Yutaka?
12:13Please say,
12:15Good evening, it's XX.
12:17I'm not messing with it.
12:20For example,
12:22What would you do if you put your vegetables in the middle name between Matsushige and Yutaka?
12:27I was informed that I was growing vegetables.
12:32So,
12:34I was wondering why I was growing vegetables.
12:36Matsushige, green onion, Yutaka.
12:38That's fine.
12:40Did you do it?
12:42Yes, I did.
12:44Good evening, it's Matsushige, Okura, Yutaka.
12:50You were growing Okura.
12:53It's interesting.
12:55Okura, Yutaka.
12:57It's like Okura, Senbon.
12:59Matsushige, Okura, Yutaka.
13:01There's a reason.
13:04I've grown Okura before.
13:07It's cute.
13:09I see.
13:11It's a small Okura.
13:13I've heard that Okura grows up.
13:17It grows up.
13:19It grows up from the middle of the nose.
13:23I think so.
13:25It's cute.
13:27It's Matsushige's first voice.
13:29It's not just Okura.
13:33No, it's not.
13:35All my works are Okura.
13:37Then, I'm Matsushige, Okura, Yutaka.
13:39I'm irritated.
13:41You don't use all my works.
13:43I'm Okura, Yutaka.
13:47It doesn't mean that.
13:49I've grown Okura.
13:53I asked Mimura, who is 167cm tall, to divide his height a little.
14:01If possible, how much would you divide?
14:04What kind of question is this?
14:06I don't understand.
14:08I think Matsushige is 188cm tall.
14:12He is 164cm tall.
14:17But, he is not 164cm tall.
14:21He is 165.7cm tall.
14:25I don't like that he is 167cm tall.
14:28If I say so, he is 165.7cm tall.
14:31He is 165.7cm tall.
14:35Was he 167cm tall in the past?
14:39He is short.
14:41He is short.
14:43He is 165.7cm tall in the past.
14:47So, there is a possibility that Matsushige is short.
14:51Of course.
14:52Since then.
14:53Because of the joint.
14:55So, he may not like it.
14:57He doesn't want to be taller.
14:59He doesn't want to be smaller than this.
15:01He may not like it because he is tall.
15:03He may not like it.
15:05Because I can see the scenery that I can't see.
15:09I can see Matsushige walking on the other side of the wall.
15:16I can see Matsushige walking on the other side of the wall.
15:18I envy him.
15:20Give it to me.
15:22What do you mean?
15:24He is 15cm tall.
15:26He is 15cm tall.
15:28He is 180cm tall.
15:30He is unique.
15:32He drew it for me.
15:33He drew it for me.
15:36He spends 1,000,000 yen per cm.
15:40He spends 1,000,000 yen per cm.
15:42He spends 1,000,000 yen per cm.
15:44Well.
15:460.5cm is acceptable.
15:52I accept 500,000 yen.
15:53I accept 500,000 yen.
15:55If he decides within the year, I accept 20%.
15:5720%?
15:59I will be invited.
16:01However, there is an event in the media.
16:04When I draw a picture, there is an announcement of the movie.
16:10I can't announce the movie unless it is within the year.
16:12That's right.
16:14I see.
16:16It's better to do it in front of everyone.
16:20I gave 2cm to Mimura.
16:22I sold it.
16:24With 2,000,000 yen and consumption tax.
16:26However, it is 20% off.
16:28It will be cheaper.
16:3020cm is big.
16:322cm for 1,600,000 yen.
16:342cm?
16:36It's tough.
16:38You can do it.
16:40You don't realize it's 2cm, do you?
16:42I don't know.
16:44Mr. Matsushige doesn't realize it.
16:46I don't realize it either.
16:48However, it is announced in the media.
16:50Mr. Matsushige doesn't realize it either.
16:52We don't lose that much.
16:54We don't lose that much, but I lose 1,600,000 yen.
16:56Well.
16:58If it's 5cm,
17:00everyone will notice it.
17:02However,
17:04I gave 5,000,000 yen carefully.
17:06I gave 5,000,000 yen carefully.
17:08What happened?
17:10What happened?
17:12It's too late.
17:14Mr. Matsushige, you don't have to do it.
17:16I don't have to do it this time.
17:20Please tell me a small lie that I have been following recently.
17:22Please tell me a small lie that I have been following recently.
17:24There are many.
17:26One day, my friend took us to a movie theater at the big venue
17:31and the owner and the madam told them
17:34this movie will be on the Cannes Film Festival.
17:36and the owner and the madam told them this movie will be on the Cannes Film Festival.
17:38And they were serious about it.
17:40Is it a lie?
17:42Is it a lie?
17:44I never knew about this phase.
17:46I never knew about this phase.
17:48I didn't know until I saw the release of it.
17:50The Cannes film festival was at this time.
17:52I didn't know until I saw the release of it.
17:54It's warm in here.
17:56You're playing in France?
17:58I'm trying to make it look better.
18:02You're getting ahead of yourself.
18:06In France, we don't say,
18:08is this Muniel?
18:10What's Muniel?
18:14It's France, so it should be good.
18:16The location is good.
18:18It's good.
18:20I see.
18:22Besides work,
18:24have you ever been nervous?
18:26Please tell us in detail.
18:28Besides work?
18:30Yes.
18:32When I eat with my seniors.
18:34I'm not that old.
18:36You're not.
18:38Mr. Matsushige,
18:40it's been a while since you've been in a car.
18:42Do you feel nervous?
18:44Yes, I do.
18:46I always feel nervous in a car.
18:48Let's take a look.
18:52Let's take a look.
18:54I've been careful not to get nervous,
18:56so I don't get nervous for nothing.
19:00I've been careful not to get nervous.
19:02How do you do that?
19:04You get nervous all of a sudden.
19:08Is there a way to think about it?
19:10It's not a big deal.
19:12It's not like you're going to die.
19:14That's right.
19:16On the first day of the play,
19:18I don't know if I'll be on stage,
19:20but on the first day of the play,
19:22I get nervous.
19:24That's true.
19:26It's a job.
19:28I did a live show this year.
19:30I did a live show this year.
19:32In front of the audience.
19:34Surprisingly,
19:36it didn't happen to me.
19:38Surprisingly,
19:40it didn't happen to me.
19:42It starts with a light.
19:46It starts at the noodle shop counter.
19:51I was very nervous on the first day.
19:54But when it gets dark,
19:56but the light reflected straight
19:58to the front of the counter.
20:00It shines in the dark
20:02not to look here.
20:04I looked at the lighting
20:06saw it getting dark
20:08and for a second I couldn't see anything.
20:10He said, I can see it now.
20:12I went like this.
20:14I think it was the third day.
20:16I was so used to it.
20:18I didn't look at it much.
20:20I hit my foot.
20:24I was at a different place.
20:26You got carried away.
20:28I was like, I'm almost there.
20:30I didn't do anything.
20:32You didn't get caught.
20:34No, I didn't.
20:36I got caught a little.
20:38Your line went blank.
20:40You didn't say anything.
20:42Yes, I did.
20:44It was so fluffy.
20:46I said to my sleeve,
20:48Are you okay?
20:50It's fluffy today.
20:52I was lost.
20:54I see.
20:56I didn't know where to go.
20:58No one helped me.
21:00No one helped me.
21:02I was alone.
21:04When I knew the direction,
21:06there were people who helped me.
21:08There were people who helped me.
21:10I was pushed away this time.
21:12I thought you were alone.
21:14No, there was no one.
21:16I was scared.
21:18I was nervous.
21:20I see.
21:22We can't see in the dark.
21:24When I disappeared,
21:26I was told not to move.
21:28Someone pulled my hand.
21:30A professional.
21:32I didn't see it.
21:34When we did the comedy stage,
21:36I was supposed to be gone.
21:38I was supposed to be gone.
21:40I was supposed to be gone.
21:42I couldn't see anyone.
21:44All three of us couldn't move forward.
21:46I was in the lead.
21:48Yes.
21:50Mr. Uchimura, me, Otake, and Mr. Uchimura.
21:52Udo.
21:54All three of us walked together.
21:56There was no exit.
21:58I looked at the wall.
22:00There was no exit.
22:02I was facing the wall.
22:04I couldn't move forward.
22:06I was in the lead.
22:08All three of us were like,
22:10Ah!
22:12You couldn't move forward.
22:14I remember that.
22:16I was scared.
22:18I was embarrassed.
22:20I was supposed to be in the next scene.
22:22It doesn't matter.
22:24All three of us were there.
22:28That happens.
22:30You don't have to be nervous.
22:32That was good.
22:34Can you tell us about your image?
22:36Can you tell us about your image?
22:38I've never met him.
22:40I've never met him.
22:42I've never met him.
22:44I wonder if he has our image.
22:46I wonder if he has our image.
22:48Mr. Otake.
22:50Mr. Otake.
22:52Mr. Otake.
22:54He doesn't like smelly things.
22:56He doesn't like smelly things.
22:58He watches Toyotomi.
23:00He watches Toyotomi.
23:02He watches Toyotomi.
23:04He hates smelly things.
23:06Yes, that's right.
23:08So, he hates blue fish.
23:10And light things.
23:12So he hates blue fish.
23:14So, he hates blue fish.
23:16Yeah.
23:18And sometimes,
23:20he tries to be eggy.
23:22He tries to be eggy.
23:24At most,
23:26They say, we can eat your namero, but not our namero.
23:33They've gone too far.
23:35They say, we can eat your namero.
23:36It's fresh, our taste.
23:37I know, I know.
23:39They can eat it in that moment.
23:41It's not like you can't understand that they can eat it.
23:43They can't say, we ate it.
23:45We asked if it was delicious.
23:47They can say, we ate it.
23:50Like bonito.
23:51Like bonito.
23:52So they have decided to only eat bonito in Kochi.
23:56Why is it called Koji?
23:57It's Koji, but it's delicious.
23:59It's like the one you eat on the spot.
24:04Thank you very much.
24:05Now, Mr. Mimura.
24:07The smell of my dad is the same as mine.
24:12The smell of your dad is the same as mine.
24:16I watch your dad.
24:18When I do something like my dad, I think,
24:20Oh, I'm going to do it too.
24:24As a dad, I'm watching you.
24:26Even though I'm older.
24:29He's like a dad.
24:30He's the same as me.
24:33So, 57 years old, Mr. Matsushige, 62 years old.
24:37It's the same.
24:38It's the same.
24:40If you look at it from a young person's perspective,
24:42It's the same for everyone.
24:43It's the same for everyone.
24:44Everyone above that.
24:45Is it the same?
24:47Mr. Matsushige and I.
24:48Mr. Matsushige is 61 years old.
24:4961 years old.
24:50Yes.
24:51We look the same.
24:53We look the same, don't we?
24:54Yes, we do.
24:57It doesn't matter how old you are.
25:00If you're in my age group,
25:01I think everyone looks the same.
25:03What do you think?
25:04Looking at this scene,
25:05I think there are a lot of middle-aged men.
25:07That's right.
25:08About 70%.
25:0970%?
25:1270% middle-aged men.
25:13Everyone is young.
25:1570% middle-aged men.
25:17In the end, it's the same.
25:19There are a lot of middle-aged men on this show.
25:22Mr. Matsushige, thank you for your busy schedule.
25:27The next guest is actress Wakana Matsumoto.
25:31Yes.
25:32Please look forward to it.
25:33I'm hungry.
25:36Today's guest,
25:38Mr. Yutaka Matsushige's movie,
25:40Kodoku no Gurume,
25:42will be released nationwide on January 10th, Friday.
25:45Please watch it at the theater.

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