Payne and Pendergast said Texans fans shouldn't worry about officials in the Chiefs game. They are here to admit they were wrong.
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00:00You and I especially, Sean, I think, have been getting attacked over and over again
00:04by people who traditionally and normally love us, because we warned everybody,
00:10hey, don't get too wrapped up in the officiating, and then, by GAR!
00:18I'm like, these people won! They won!
00:21I have been under attack, non-stop!
00:25Me too.
00:25By being me. I don't mind being hated and despised by various people,
00:32but the people who I want to like me are also angry at me right now.
00:36This is the one thing I'd say about this. I'm angry, but it's a little bit different.
00:41I'm not mad at the officials themselves, because honestly, the way that that rule is enforced,
00:49the way it's written in the playbook, and the way they expect the officials to call it,
00:55it's bogus, and Pat Mahomes exploits it to an extreme degree.
01:00He takes a rule that is meant to protect the safety of quarterbacks,
01:05and then he goes and puts himself in danger, consciously, to draw flags
01:12and exploit a rule that's supposed to protect quarterbacks.
01:16The NFL, for whatever reason, has decided not to make the fake slide illegal.
01:21Pat Mahomes is a practitioner of that.
01:23And then the NFL basically instructs the officials to, whenever there's any doubt about it at all,
01:31throw the flag, and then after that, they won't make it reviewable.
01:35So the second unnecessary roughness, I think, was the most egregious,
01:43in that Mahomes had the chance to run out of bounds, easily.
01:46It was right there for the taking.
01:48Instead, he put himself back into danger, and ran towards three full-speed running defenders,
01:56and then basically just, and then slid late,
01:59puts the defenders in an impossible position where they can't help but hit them,
02:03or worry about the fake slide or anything else,
02:05and end up getting penalized for it and extending a drive.
02:09It just, it's unacceptable.
02:11They gotta fix this.
02:12I'll blame, it's the competition committee, it's Pat Mahomes himself,
02:17because it's Bush League bogus crap that he doesn't really need to do.
02:21He's damn good enough already.
02:24And then also, look, it's on the coaches and owners too.
02:26Why have you not put more pressure on the competition committee?
02:29This is as much on D'Amico and Cal McNair as it is on anybody else here,
02:33because they allow this crap to exist.
02:35Yeah.
02:36They're out of my system.
02:37Yeah, no, no, no, you're absolutely right.
02:39And I think just specific to that Mahomes play,
02:41because we're gonna hear from D'Amico on this,
02:44Will Anderson Jr. on this in just a second.
02:47Troy Aikman on this.
02:48Man, Pat Mahomes almost broke Troy Aikman on Saturday afternoon.
02:51Like, Troy was ready to run down to the field himself
02:54and strangle Patrick Mahomes, I think.
02:55That specific play, it's not just running.
02:59I'm fine with guys that can get out of bounds and running back into danger
03:02if they're actually trying to gain yards.
03:04You know what I mean?
03:05Like, if you're running back in-
03:05He was seeking contact.
03:06If you're running back in there and you're putting a shoulder down,
03:10or you're actually running like a running,
03:11like Josh Allen would run back into it-
03:12If you're making forward progress.
03:14Yes.
03:14Right.
03:15Yeah, yeah, yeah.
03:16He was running laterally.
03:17I have no problem with a guy not getting out of bounds
03:19if he's trying to act like a football player,
03:22not like James Harden.
03:23You know what I mean?
03:24Like, he-
03:24Right.
03:25And then there's the flop later in the game.
03:27Like, Mahomes is a great player.
03:30Maybe the greatest player of this particular segment of football
03:34that we're in, you know, last seven or eight years.
03:36Yeah.
03:37That stuff's a joke.
03:38Like, that is an out-and-out, that's a flat-out joke.
03:42Mahomes should be ridiculed for that stuff.
03:44The flopping, especially.
03:47Flopping needs to be fined heavily, especially for quarterbacks
03:49because they make so much damn money.
03:51The fact that it's not reviewable,
03:54the fact that the foot first slide in close quarters is never-
03:59It's never the best way to protect yourself as a quarterback.
04:03Case Keenum said as much when we had him on a few weeks ago.
04:06You know, what he tells young guys all the time is,
04:08if you're going to slide feet first, you better have room to do it
04:12because the last thing standing, the last thing remaining to hit
04:16by any defender, whether he tries to hit you or not, is your head.
04:20And it's dumb.
04:21Like, if Pam Mahomes genuinely wanted to avoid contact there,
04:24he would have turtled and gone down just to the ground.
04:27And it's just, it's so damn un-American.
04:32It's just wrong.
04:33And was it a factor in the game?
04:34Yes.
04:35I'm kind of wired to try to not blame officiating
04:38because officiating is like a weather event.
04:41It's going to happen.
04:42You're going to have bad-
04:43This one bothers me because the actual rule and the way it's enforced,
04:47not the individual officials themselves, the actual rule itself is bogus.
04:51And it's on-
04:53I blame Cal McNair and D'Amico Ryans as much as anybody else.
04:56Get this crap fixed in the offseason.
04:58Peyton Manning used to-
04:59Peyton Manning used to exploit the rule book all the time.
05:02Right.
05:02They fixed it.
05:03They changed two specific rules because Peyton Manning was dodgy in that manner.
05:08As the local face of ownership and coaches, you blame them.
05:11I'm just picturing one of them getting in their car and turning on the radio like,
05:14what did I do?
05:16Get this crap taken care of.
05:17Yeah, you're right.
05:18You know, it's bogus.
05:19It's bad for football.
05:20I agree.
05:21No, I agree with you.
05:22Here was D'Amico after the game and didn't exactly mention the ref by name,
05:27but boy, this sure does seem like a tip of the hat at the officiating here.
05:31We knew going into this game, man, it was us versus everybody, right?
05:35When I say everybody, it's everybody.
05:37All of whatever, everybody, the naysayers, the doubt,
05:41right, everybody we had to go against today.
05:45And, you know, going with that, knowing going into this game, what we were up against,
05:51we can't make the mistakes that we made, right?
05:53We had a lot of self-inflicted mistakes that happened, whether it's special teams,
05:58not converting our kicks defensively, not being where we're supposed to be in coverage,
06:04offensively, not protecting our quarterback and keeping them clean.
06:07So, you know, you marry that on top of everything else that we had to deal with.
06:12It's going to be a really tough uphill battle.
06:14Okay, and so the pause there, right before he said everybody again, to me,
06:18that pause was clearly, you may as well put referees in that blank right there
06:21if we were transcribing it.
06:24But D'Amico acknowledging at the back end there that, yeah,
06:27there's plenty of the Texans did wrong in this game.
06:30And we absolutely should acknowledge that.
06:33Like the Texans, to Seth's point earlier,
06:35the referees didn't lose this game for the Texans.
06:38It was an element in the game not going their way, to be sure.
06:40But they outgamed the Chiefs by 124 yards.
06:44They didn't turn the ball over.
06:46They were well over 50% on third down in this game.
06:49Like they kept the chains moving in this game.
06:51They were-
06:51Honestly, going back and watching the second half again,
06:55C.J. Stroud played magnificently.
06:58Yes.
06:58The play, when he had actual time to throw,
07:01and to the receivers he was throwing to,
07:04without Nico Collins on the field for much of the second,
07:07like he made some incredible throws.
07:09Yeah.
07:10It was a great personal performance by him.
07:12He was tight windowing John Mechie and Xavier Hutchinson in this game.
07:16So they were 10 of 17 on third down.
07:18They held the ball seven minutes longer than the Chiefs.
07:21In a game against the team that held the ball for 10 of the final 11 minutes,
07:25the last time these two teams played a month ago,
07:28they held the ball for seven minutes longer.
07:29Again, I do this exercise, Seth,
07:31like you told me those things before the game,
07:33that they were going to do these things, the Texans, like blindly.
07:36I would have said, I bet they win this game.
07:38If they're 10 of 17 on third down,
07:40if they're out possessing and out gaining the Chiefs significantly,
07:43they're not turning the ball over on the road in this game.
07:45Are you kidding me?
07:46And yet the F-ups were so bad.
07:50It wasn't just the penalties that Mahomes got for being Mahomes.
07:53They had other very bad penalties in this game.
07:56The eight sacks allowed are the huge thing.
07:58And then that there was a sea of them,
07:59a barrage of them when you're trying to come back in a one possession game.
08:03The special teams, Frank Ross and his crew,
08:06picked the worst time to be the worst unit for this team on Saturday.
08:10They were awful.
08:12And the defense let Travis Kelsey kill them slowly throughout the afternoon.
08:16This is okay.
08:16The special teams.
08:17I mean, the only person outside of Houston,
08:19who's happy about the way that game was officiated was Kymie Fairbairn.
08:23Cause he hasn't been lambasted nearly enough for whatever the hell that was.
08:28Whatever the hell that was.
08:29He was lucky to make the one field goal he did make.
08:32It was, it was really, really bad.
08:34God, that's right.
08:34He barely snuck that one in there.
08:36Tommy Townsend with that 34 yard punt when you really needed a good point.
08:42He needed it.
08:42Yeah.
08:42They got it.
08:43The Chiefs got the ball at midfield.
08:45The Texans defense, I was harsher on them after the game than I should have been.
08:50Just because I forgot how bad the field position was on that touchdown drive.
08:55After the Tommy Townsend 34 yard point.
08:58The kickoff return, Chris Boyd doing whatever the hell he was doing.
09:03That was just a mess.
09:04And a disaster.
09:05That was really, really bad.
09:06Yeah, that was frustrating.
09:07It was bad.
09:09Look, the offensive line, I knew they were going to lose some snaps in that.
09:13I guess, I don't know exactly why they felt like for four quarters,
09:17Shaq Mason was going to at some point turn it around and start playing good football.
09:22Okay, there's that.
09:24I'm not mad at Bobby Slowick for putting, for having, for having Dalton Schultz
09:30on a defensive end on that one sack.
09:33I'm mad at Dalton Schultz.
09:34They were, look, look, the Chiefs were blitzing like crazy.
09:37They were sending six man blitzes over and over and over again.
09:40Yeah, at times when you do that, you're going to end up with a tight end on a defensive end.
09:43Try to slow him down a smidgen.
09:45Can you slow him down a smidgen?
09:47The running backs were awful in pass protection and in blitz pickup.
09:51The eighth sacks is unacceptable.
09:53It's not like, I saw that one guy on Twitter, fluffy foofoo bear or whatever,
09:58said that he was adamant that, look, look, the Texans were sad
10:02after those bad calls went against them.
10:05And that's why, all right, are we really going to do this?
10:07Are we going to be talking about your football players being sad?
10:11I'm sorry, I didn't realize the offensive line was depressed the entire season
10:14and that's why pass protection was so bad.
10:17I didn't realize that Dalton Schultz only pass blocks when he's got the warm fuzzies.
10:21And if he's got the cold pricklies, it's not a good day for it.
10:24No, they got to hold up their end of the bargain.
10:27The offense just simply wasn't good enough this year.
10:30They did some really good things in this game.
10:32I thought CJ Stroud was really good individually.
10:36I'll make some excuses for him because the wide receivers,
10:39they were banged up enough going into the game.
10:41Then Nico Collins is on the field.
10:43Apparent, maybe according to floofy bear,
10:46he was on the sideline with melancholy instead of an actual injury.
10:50Yeah, yeah.
10:51Boy, did you see the play that people thought maybe Nico got popped in that game?
10:56Like the play that got him that injury in that game?
10:58But he got chipped downfield by a linebacker, like popped right in the ribs.
11:02By a linebacker, yeah.