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00:00And then you get into what they accomplished without their star quarterback.
00:02Yeah, this is where the conversation, I think, begins.
00:06Because those other numbers are pretty slam dunk right now for Belichick.
00:09I agree.
00:10Even the wins.
00:10If you just look on win percentage and total wins right now, that's still Bill.
00:13Here's where you get in the weeds.
00:15Bill is 83-104 lifetime without Tom Brady.
00:18That's a 444 win percentage.
00:2083-104.
00:22Yeah.
00:22So just real quick, that would be Matt Cassel, Jimmy Garoppolo, Mac Jones, Cam Newton,
00:28all the guys in Cleveland, Drew Bledsoe.
00:30Couple of Jacoby Brissett games.
00:31Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:32Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:32Okay.
00:33Yeah.
00:33He's 83-104 with two playoff appearances.
00:36He's 1-2.
00:37And this is the stat I feel guys like Rex Ryan and others really want to point out.
00:42Coaches that are super jealous of Bill will point out the fact that if you have a record
00:47like that, you're not lasting very long in the NFL.
00:49You don't even get to get that kind of record in the NFL.
00:51And so look, he won a lot with Brady and they were great with Brady.
00:54He made the playoffs twice in his life without Brady.
00:58Andy Reid has been phenomenal.
01:00Obviously with Patrick Mahomes, he's been much better with Patrick Mahomes.
01:02He couldn't win without Patrick Mahomes a Super Bowl, but he got to one.
01:06He's 182-121.
01:086-0-1 win percentage without Mahomes.
01:1111-13 in the playoffs.
01:13I mean, that's sub 500, but he got to the playoffs pretty much every year.
01:17Well, he's 11-13.
01:18Without Mahomes.
01:19So 24 playoff games without Mahomes.
01:21Correct.
01:22I mean, they made an NFC title game four or five years in a row.
01:25That's mostly Donovan McNabb, Alex Smith.
01:28He had a Michael Vick year, didn't he?
01:29Yeah.
01:29Okay.
01:30So, I mean, if you're going to make the case for Andy Reid, it's that, well, yeah,
01:35he's closing it on Bill for all of these career accolades, the Super Bowls, the appearances,
01:39the total wins.
01:40And he accomplished so much more before he ever got Mahomes.
01:43He couldn't win, but at least he could make the playoffs and make a Super Bowl and make
01:47championship games.
01:48Bill couldn't even make the playoffs without Brady.
01:50No, Andy Reid's a really good coach without a Hall of Fame quarterback.
01:53Bill Belichick, you can't make that case for.
01:55Now, I give him a lot of credit for the 20-year run or 18-year run, I guess, whatever it was
01:59with Brady.
02:00I think sometimes people kind of skip past that and they're like, well, anybody could
02:03have done it.
02:04It's like, well, he did it, though, for all that time.
02:06So you're not going to remove those accolades away from it.
02:09But that's where I think the conversation is pretty interesting because who's better,
02:14Donovan McNabb or Drew Bledsoe?