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- Senator Irfan Siddiqui PMLN
- Sahibzada Hamid Raza SIC
- Aamir Ilyas Rana (Analyst)
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- Muneeb Farooq (Analyst)
We are still Ready for a Meeting, but PTI..." Irfan Siddiqui's Analysis
"This may be their wish and dream, but my sources say that PTI..." Irfan Siddiqui's Statement
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- Senator Irfan Siddiqui PMLN
- Sahibzada Hamid Raza SIC
- Aamir Ilyas Rana (Analyst)
- Ather Kazmi (Analyst)
- Muneeb Farooq (Analyst)
We are still Ready for a Meeting, but PTI..." Irfan Siddiqui's Analysis
"This may be their wish and dream, but my sources say that PTI..." Irfan Siddiqui's Statement
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00:00In the name of Allah, the most Gracious, the most Merciful.
00:14In the beginning, to know the story of the Muzakirati Committee and the practice of Muzakirat,
00:22Irfan Siddiqui, the translator of the Government Committee, and Hamid Raza, the translator of the PTI Committee, will talk about what, when, why and how happened in Muzakirat.
00:31Is there a possibility of Muzakirat again? If yes, how? If no, then what?
00:37Let's start with the translator of the Government Committee, Irfan Siddiqui.
00:42Huzoor, Assalam-o-Alaikum.
00:45Wa-Alaikum-Salam.
00:46Sir, thank you very much for giving us time. First of all, please tell us, obviously, you and the audience have already had an opinion on this, so I would like to talk about the future.
00:54Please tell us, now, from your side, I mean from the Committee, from the Government,
00:59will there be any further effort, will there be any contact that, sir, look, 31 committees are intact,
01:05if you want, they can come, or whatever you had to say, you said it, 31 committees are established,
01:10if they come, then most welcome, if they don't come, then Khuda Hafiz.
01:16Thank you, Mr. Badami.
01:18The last meeting that we had, the Speaker said what you are saying, he said that our Government Committee is established,
01:27and he has also requested the PTI Committee that this Committee is established, and you should come,
01:34and he has expressed his expectation that the process of after-seed will start again.
01:38Our Committee, which we had initially decided that after 28, we will suspend it, we will suspend it,
01:45now we have kept it out till 31 July, which is their deadline,
01:50that maybe they want to close our door again at some point, which they themselves have closed and gone, they have closed and gone,
01:59but I don't think that they have any signs of going back, or they want to have any serious, purposeful,
02:07result-oriented, positive talks, or they have the ability to do so.
02:13And sir, I am sorry to say, please explain this too, it is a good thing, even if there is political opposition,
02:19there should be an expression of your anger, that is fine, but there should not be such actions that seem apologetic.
02:25Right now, it seems as if the Government wants a lot, that the 7 working days have been decided,
02:30and before that, they have decided, and still you have come on 28th, and even after 28th, the Committee is still out till 31st.
02:37Even you, decently, I am not saying that you should abuse in front of them,
02:42but you say that this decision is over, it is over from our side too, and you have still kept it till 31st.
02:46So, isn't the Government being very apologetic on this, or what?
02:51No, it should not be called apologetic.
02:54This, I think, is a political, democratic, parliamentary attitude,
03:00in which we do not want to bring in any kind of sarcasm,
03:03we do not want to bring in any kind of, that the doors are closed, we do not want to talk anymore,
03:10we do not want to make this a child's play.
03:12Look, we have not even, Mr. Badami, that during the direct negotiations,
03:17they made a very scary tweet, Mr. Imran Khan,
03:21they even abused our Prime Minister, but we did not complain,
03:26we said that the negotiations are going on, so let them go on.
03:29They started the civil disobedience right before the negotiations,
03:33they kept giving statements every day, that they should not send money to Pakistan,
03:37we did not even complain about this.
03:39We had decided one thing, Mr. Badami, the two committees,
03:43that no matter what happens outside, we will not take its influence.
03:47Neither will they consider our statements to be their own,
03:50nor will we feel bad about anything you say.
03:52We will move forward.
03:53Actually, the background of the question was that,
03:55this creates another impression, a debate arises,
03:57that brother, in reality, it is the government,
04:00whose goat is stuck, not the PTI.
04:04That is why they are being so kind and so nice.
04:08No, our goat is not stuck.
04:10Look, they announced a series of negotiations,
04:14they made a committee on 5th December,
04:17that committee went to the Speaker three times,
04:20to request the government to make that committee.
04:26The Speaker went to the Prime Minister,
04:29the Prime Minister negotiated, then our committee was formed.
04:32If our goat was stuck, we would have jumped and sat down,
04:35and would have welcomed that we were waiting.
04:40It was not like that.
04:41Irfan Siddiqui, you are the most up-to-date on this,
04:44that Rauf Hassan says,
04:46our Prime Minister said,
04:47which even though Secretary-General Tilal Waqas refutes,
04:50but Rauf says, what does he have?
04:52We said earlier that we are powerless,
04:54he does not have the power,
04:55what is the point of talking to him?
04:57The matter should be done where there is power,
04:59and quote-unquote, Rauf Hassan,
05:00if you say, I will tell you,
05:01he says that fortunately,
05:05our conversation has begun where it should be.
05:10Congratulations to you,
05:11you are lucky to have met him.
05:13Mr. Badami, in your program,
05:17I have heard this from him,
05:20which you have repeated in another program.
05:25Yes, yes.
05:28This is definitely his wish,
05:30this is definitely his dream,
05:32but here in Islamabad,
05:35the resources I have,
05:39they tell me that there is no such thing.
05:42There was no negotiation with them,
05:45from any other institution,
05:48nor did they accept it.
05:51Okay, Irfan Sahib,
05:52even though you are saying that
05:53this is definitely not the case,
05:56this is only his wish,
05:57but you are absolutely sure,
05:59because when the way to talk to you
06:01was open somewhere,
06:02at that time, the friends of PTI
06:04used to say with so much confidence
06:05that this is their wish,
06:06nothing is happening,
06:07we are not going anywhere.
06:08In fact, he used to say,
06:09think about it,
06:10will they remove us and bring Shabaz Sharif?
06:12But today,
06:13Shabaz Sharif is in jail.
06:17Well,
06:20the 26 year history that he has,
06:24it is like this.
06:25These days,
06:26I feel that
06:27a period of frustration has come,
06:31and because all his decisions,
06:33and all his practical wisdom,
06:35and all his political policies,
06:37are coming out of Adela Jail.
06:42So,
06:43this is a period of frustration,
06:45which I call,
06:46a period of frustration.
06:49And because,
06:50all his focus is now on
06:53how to bring Khan Sahib out.
06:55And perhaps,
06:56this is the center of all his policies,
06:59that how to open this door for me.
07:01Everything else is in vain.
07:03In negotiations,
07:04there is a demand,
07:05there is a demand,
07:06there is a demand.
07:07Now,
07:08these two demands,
07:09these two demands,
07:10there are 15 demands.
07:12With one demand,
07:13he has fulfilled 8 demands,
07:15and with the second demand,
07:17he has fulfilled 7 demands.
07:19There are 15 demands.
07:21So,
07:22with these 15-17 demands,
07:23we have also answered each demand,
07:27with Sylvique,
07:28with Kareena,
07:29keeping their concerns in mind,
07:32but,
07:33now,
07:34when they will not come,
07:35then where will the matter go?
07:37Now,
07:38they have left from here,
07:39so,
07:40they have jumped off the wall from here,
07:42and have reached Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman's house.
07:44This is a new matter of negotiations.
07:46Maulana has understood their negotiations very well,
07:49which he did between 26th of February.
07:52And then,
07:53how he also left them alone,
07:56and they separated.
07:57So,
07:58anyhow,
07:59it is their own will,
08:00they can talk to any institution,
08:04to us,
08:05to the opposition.
08:07I am happy,
08:08Mr. Badami,
08:09on a lighter note,
08:10that such a community,
08:12which has no experience of negotiations,
08:15they are doing the mass of negotiations,
08:17and,
08:18slowly,
08:19God willing,
08:20it will become strong,
08:21and they will come to know,
08:22what are negotiations,
08:23what is dialogue,
08:24what is dialogue,
08:25what is give and take,
08:27and,
08:28in political wisdom,
08:29you see,
08:30the community,
08:31which does not know how to shake hands,
08:33for four years,
08:34they were the Prime Minister,
08:35they did not shake hands with the opposition.
08:37They did not come to the security meetings,
08:39that they are sitting here,
08:40and I have to shake hands.
08:42Can you imagine such a thought in the world?
08:45So,
08:46do the negotiations,
08:47make your own ways.
08:48We are happy about that,
08:49that,
08:50instead of coming to the field,
08:51instead of coming to the streets,
08:53instead of coming to D-Chowk,
08:55instead of doing it on 9th of May,
08:57we are doing the negotiations,
08:58do it with us,
08:59do it with someone else,
09:00do it with Maulana,
09:01then we will do it.
09:02But,
09:03it is the tradition before coming to the streets,
09:04so that,
09:05when you come to the streets for the first time,
09:06you come in a different way.
09:07For example,
09:08Hamid Reza Sahib,
09:09the chairman of the Negotiations Committee,
09:10he said,
09:11now we will come,
09:12not like we came before,
09:14we will come to D-Chowk,
09:15but all the MNAs will stand in front,
09:17then shoot,
09:18kill everyone who has to be killed,
09:19and many more things.
09:20So,
09:21actually,
09:22he is completely,
09:23and,
09:24you have given the reference of Mr. Junaid's statement,
09:25in his own words,
09:26that,
09:27on that side,
09:28now,
09:29so,
09:30he is giving the complete reference that,
09:31now the streets will be heated.
09:32Look,
09:33these streets,
09:34after getting heated,
09:35after doing it on 9th of May,
09:36after attacking 250 military organizations,
09:37after climbing on Islamabad on 24th,
09:3825th,
09:3926th,
09:40Al-Jihad,
09:41Al-Jihad,
09:42kill,
09:43die,
09:44with the slogans,
09:45they have done everything.
09:46The army that was on the streets,
09:47it has happened.
09:48After that,
09:49the people,
09:50the people,
09:51the people,
09:52the people,
09:53the people,
09:54the people,
09:55the people,
09:56the people,
09:57they have come to Volunteers.
09:58After that only,
09:59they came towards Moosєākarates
10:00Sometimes towards the mountains,
10:01sometimes towards our area,
10:02sometimes towards anyone else.
10:03But,
10:04if they go to Hikmah-e-Amali again,
10:05yes,
10:06and again they adopt the path of the cake-and-sand,
10:10then,
10:11if
10:12he
10:13had a new
10:24will be prepared and will respond to the lawlessness.
10:28The way we are negotiating with them in large assemblies,
10:32the response of the army will also be in line with the response of the army.
10:40Accordingly, arrangements will be made.
10:42Did you feel this?
10:43As you said, there were apparently two, but in reality there were 15 demands.
10:46They are proud, they are proud, they say,
10:48Sir, look, they wrote it down and gave it.
10:50In fact, they say that because we wrote it down and gave it,
10:52the government has lost its mind and says,
10:54look, they too have not written anywhere that we want Khan's release.
10:56You did not go to beg for Khan's release,
10:58otherwise we would have written it down and given it.
11:02I have already told you about Khan's release.
11:06This is just one source.
11:08All these sources are bursting from there.
11:11If this was the case, then they would have told you that for Khan's release.
11:14You yourself are not joking.
11:15Where did they write it down and give it to you?
11:18They have written that they took the name of Khan Sahib in the second session,
11:26they took the name of Shah Mahmood Qureshi,
11:31they took the name of Yasmin Rashid,
11:35they took the name of Chaudhary Sahib,
11:38and took many other names.
11:40They took the name and said that they should be released in the second meeting.
11:43By means of the executive order?
11:44By taking the name.
11:46Yes.
11:47By means of the executive order?
11:51Look, they did not tell us the order,
11:54but they left it to us.
11:56We did not give them the name of NRO or anything,
11:59but they took the name,
12:01and took the name that Mahmood Rashid Sahib,
12:04and there is a long list,
12:06and it is included in our notes, in the minutes.
12:09In this, which they have finally written,
12:12they have talked about the release of political prisoners.
12:15And they consider Khan Sahib to be a political prisoner.
12:18So, whatever they say,
12:20if you know,
12:22that if a committee of ours,
12:25would have announced from the government,
12:28that we have thought about all the issues,
12:32and we are recommending to the government,
12:34that they end all the cases,
12:37and release Khan Sahib tomorrow,
12:39then their demands would have been over.
12:42Then they would have asked for a commission,
12:44then they would have asked for something else,
12:46then they would have said,
12:48that we will consider this on 26th November,
12:50and tell us what happened.
12:52All these are just rumours.
12:54The essence is something else.
12:56Okay, the real purpose is something else.
12:58But sir, in making a commission,
13:00because now, of course,
13:02all these issues have passed,
13:04so we can talk about it.
13:06What was the problem in making a commission?
13:08Now, it is clear that the government is also not making a commission.
13:12What was the problem in making a commission?
13:15Because your position is that,
13:17whether it is 9th or 26th May,
13:19the criminal is PTI.
13:21If there was a commission, it would have been good.
13:25I am talking away from the committee,
13:27or the committee's proceedings,
13:29or the commission,
13:31because we know,
13:33whether it is milk or water.
13:35We don't need to separate them.
13:37In our opinion,
13:39this is not a doubtful issue.
13:41They want to make it doubtful.
13:43They want to take action on it.
13:45These things have come to the courts.
13:47Proceedings have taken place.
13:49Punishments are being made,
13:51or have already been made.
13:53In light of this,
13:55were we going to make a commission,
13:57or did we have any thought
13:59of making a special commission?
14:01Or did we want a parliamentary committee?
14:03Or can we sit together
14:05and find a middle ground for this?
14:07If we had a committee,
14:09we would have sat down
14:11and discussed this.
14:13Now, they have accused us
14:15of not making a commission.
14:17Even if we were not making a commission,
14:19there are many other things
14:21for the country.
14:23If you want research on one thing,
14:25maybe it can be done
14:27in some other way
14:29instead of a commission.
14:31JITs have been made for us,
14:33and other things have been made.
14:35We told them to bring their lawyers
14:37and tell us the method
14:39through which these things
14:41can be done.
14:43They have not done this.
14:45Ali Gauhar has gone there
14:47and he has come out.
14:49He has put one foot in the car
14:51and the other foot down.
14:53He has said that it is a matter
14:55of 23rd.
14:57He had been there for five days
14:59according to our agreement.
15:01He said, no more talks.
15:03Sometimes he says
15:05to address his followers
15:07that Mr. Khan has come.
15:09Sometimes to reassure them
15:11that our door has opened.
15:13Sometimes he says something else.
15:15Sometimes he goes to Fazl-ur-Rehman
15:17and says that we are going to
15:19make a grand alliance
15:21and attack.
15:23Will Maulana make his power
15:25a means of spreading his ideology?
15:27Look, Maulana,
15:29after the recent statements,
15:31quote-unquote,
15:33his father did not trust Maulana.
15:35This was 20 days ago.
15:37Despite this, Maulana
15:39has opened his doors.
15:41He has done all this.
15:43Who knows, maybe there will be
15:45an alliance in the future.
15:47Look, we did that too.
15:49We did not say that you call us thieves,
15:51you call us dacoits,
15:53you abuse us,
15:55you call us ruffians.
15:57Why have you come?
15:59We did not say that.
16:01Maulana will never say that.
16:03Maulana is a traditional politician.
16:05He is a man of morals.
16:07He will listen to everything.
16:09But are you sure
16:11that you will never share a stage
16:13with Maulana?
16:15Like PTI and Tahirul Qadri
16:17had a joint call,
16:19this will never happen.
16:21As far as I know Maulana,
16:23he is a very good,
16:25sincere,
16:27patient friend.
16:29We meet a lot.
16:31We keep in touch.
16:33If there is a democratic,
16:35parliamentary move
16:37in the parliament,
16:39he will definitely
16:41support it.
16:43But will he
16:45come to D-Chowk
16:47with Khan Sahib
16:49and throw his army
16:51into this fire?
16:53If the events of 9th May
16:55were to come on the streets,
16:57such demonstrations
16:59that are unique to him,
17:01would he want to
17:03bring Maulana with him?
17:05I am sure
17:07that Maulana will never
17:09become the fuel of that fire.
17:11Sir, towards the end,
17:13tell us that the negotiations are going on
17:15and the translator of the Negotiations Committee
17:17is doing a press conference
17:19and a large number of police
17:21have come out.
17:23This was not a good gesture.
17:25If Mr. Jarnana had not come out,
17:27we would not have arrested him.
17:29But everyone saw the police coming out.
17:31He is saying that he came out of the 18th house
17:33and he would have been caught.
17:35This gesture was not appropriate.
17:37Look, the first thing
17:39is that PTI
17:41and PTI's followers,
17:43youngsters,
17:45they are far ahead
17:47in making statements.
17:49We are far behind them.
17:51The second thing is
17:53that is there
17:55a single video,
17:57is there a single such thing,
17:59is there a single such testimony
18:01in today's time,
18:03is there a picture taken from a camera
18:05in which the police are chasing
18:07and the walls are collapsing?
18:09There is a video of the police
18:11outside the building
18:13which Mr. Jarnana went to give security.
18:15What does security mean?
18:17Presence.
18:19Look,
18:21there is presence.
18:23I will come to the third thing.
18:25There is definitely presence.
18:27No one caught him.
18:29No one arrested him.
18:31If he had gone somewhere
18:33because of his fear,
18:35then he would have gone.
18:37There was no warrant for his arrest.
18:39Why did the police go there?
18:41Why did the police go there
18:43when there is a press conference
18:45going on inside?
18:47It was not a press conference.
18:49It was not a protest.
18:51This is the last argument
18:53that I am giving.
18:55Okay,
18:57they went to arrest him.
18:59He has been abused.
19:01There is a curse there.
19:03His house or his school
19:05has been sanctified.
19:07Is this the claim?
19:09Yes.
19:11I also accept this
19:13directly.
19:15It was announced
19:17in the evening.
19:19It was announced
19:21at 11.30 pm
19:23when Ali Gauhar
19:25was released from jail.
19:27If you hear
19:29Ali Gauhar in any program
19:31or in this program,
19:33what does he say?
19:35Does he even take the name
19:37that there is an attack
19:39and we are boycotting?
19:41He does not say that.
19:43It was announced
19:45many hours later.
19:47He got ready in America
19:49and came from there.
19:51When he boycotted
19:53or when Mr. Khan said
19:55no more talks,
19:57was this incident already happened?
19:59So, your claim is that
20:01when Mr. Gauhar announced
20:03that Mr. Khan said
20:05to end the negotiations,
20:07the police did not go
20:09till then.
20:11But now,
20:13Ali Gauhar would have
20:15given this evidence
20:17that Mr. Khan is saying this
20:19and our leader
20:21or our translator
20:23Ahmed Raza Khan
20:25did this at his house.
20:27He would have elaborated
20:29and issued a statement.
20:31This statement has not come
20:33for hours.
20:35This evidence has been
20:37brought in the evening
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26:15Waseem Bhai,
26:17the draft that was collected
26:19in the third meeting
26:21the government's assumption
26:23and opinion was that
26:25we will include Imran Khan's name
26:27we prepared the draft after a lot of
26:29crazy
26:31during the third meeting
26:33they asked us to get the minutes of the meeting
26:35and when Umar Ayub
26:37read the draft
26:39what did the government committee
26:41answer?
26:43I can't say anything wrong
26:45I can't say anything wrong
26:47I can't say anything wrong
26:49I can't say anything wrong
26:51I can't say anything wrong
26:53I can't say anything wrong
26:55I can't say anything wrong
26:57I can't say anything wrong
26:59I can't say anything wrong
27:01I can't say anything wrong
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27:05I can't say anything wrong
27:07I can't say anything wrong
27:09I can't say anything wrong
27:11I can't say anything wrong
27:13I can't say anything wrong
27:15I can't say anything wrong
27:17I can't say anything wrong
27:19I can't say anything wrong
27:21I can't say anything wrong
27:23I can't say anything wrong
27:25I can't say anything wrong
27:27I can't say anything wrong
27:29I can't say anything wrong
27:31I can't say anything wrong
27:33I can't say anything wrong
27:35I can't say anything wrong
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27:39I can't say anything wrong
27:41I can't say anything wrong
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27:45I can't say anything wrong
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27:49I can't say anything wrong
27:51I can't say anything wrong
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27:59I can't say anything wrong
28:01I can't say anything wrong
28:03I can't say anything wrong
28:05I can't say anything wrong
28:07Have you ever had any worry,
28:09regarding Maulana Balver Rahman masjid,
28:11that you were going to get
28:13fired off at the last second,
28:15even before 26th Ayah?
28:17And then, what happened on 26th?
28:19And then, what happened on 26th?
28:21Everyone is returning to Maulana masjid again,
28:23you don't have any worries,
28:25or have you lost your worries?
28:27You cannot get saved from
28:29those innocent mischiefs,
28:31Brother Masih.
28:33No, I was just asking questions.
28:35Opposition Alliance, and we have met Maulana Sahib, there is a two-member committee, Senator
28:42Kamran Murza Sahib from JUIF and Asif Qaisar Sahib from our side, they will sit together
28:49and finalize everything, we are also going to Pir sahib Pagada, we are going to the
28:54leadership of GDA, and there are many political parties with whom we are going, we want to
29:00make the National Alliance of the Opposition on a single-pointed agenda, and that is the
29:06supremacy of the law, that everything in Pakistan should run under the eyes of Pakistan.
29:13So if I ask you, do you want to ditch Maulana Sahib at the last moment, do you say yes or
29:18no?
29:19Let the moment come, Waseem bhai.
29:22Waseem Khan- This Grand Alliance will be formed, can this be a joint protest call as well?
29:32Amit Bhandari- Of course it can, why not?
29:36When we talk about the supremacy of the law, and the government is not ready to listen
29:42to it, and it will not be ready, then of course there will be a discussion on protest as well.
29:48Waseem Khan- And many people are saying that if not today then tomorrow, if not tomorrow
29:54then the day after tomorrow, the PTI will have to come to the door of negotiations.
29:58What is your answer to that?
30:00Do you think it is over?
30:02Chapter closed?
30:04Amit Bhandari- Sir, from our side, the chapter has been categorically closed.
30:08As of now, I don't see any chance.
30:10If there is any political development tomorrow, then I cannot say anything about it.
30:14But the world is based on hope.
30:16They should have hope.
30:18I cannot break their hope.
30:20Waseem Khan- Are you also based on your hope and belief that the day of rain,
30:22the day of smiles will come?
30:24Is that okay, sir?
30:26Amit Bhandari- Of course it is.
30:28I am not even a word behind what I said.
30:30I am still based on what I said.
30:32Waseem Khan- The day of smiles, the day to celebrate, the day to celebrate has come.
30:36Amit Bhandari- Sir, the day to do a lot has come, Inshallah.
30:40Waseem Khan- The day of Khan Sahib's release is near.
30:44Amit Bhandari- Sir, I had said that within three to four months,
30:46Khan Sahib will be released.
30:48Legally, legally,
30:50he will be released from the courts.
30:52I am still based on what I said.
30:54Waseem Khan- January, February, March, April, May.
30:56Let's see, sir.
30:58Thank you very much, sir.
31:00Thank you very much.
31:02Mr. Hamid Raza was with us.
31:04Let's take a break.
31:06Let's talk to three experts.
31:08We met with American journalists.
31:10We talked about Richard Reynolds.
31:12Amir Ilyas Rana was sitting there.
31:14Let's ask him.
31:16Muneeb Farooq will give us the inside information.
31:18Atharq Admi will give us the details.
31:26Welcome.
31:28All three experts are with us.
31:30Before that, let's quickly see.
31:32There has been an interesting development today.
31:34An American businessman was interviewed.
31:36He did a press briefing.
31:38He also spoke to journalists.
31:40Very interestingly,
31:42he openly criticized the Biden administration
31:44for being disgraceful
31:46to the government of Pakistan
31:48and to other countries in the region.
31:50He also said that the Trump administration
31:52and the current Pakistani government
31:54have a lot in common.
31:56Let's see Amir Ilyas Rana's
31:58question and answer.
32:00Mr. Amir is with us today.
32:02He was also in the briefing.
32:04Let's see his question and answer.
32:06Let's see his question and answer.
32:32This is a detailed answer.
32:34Another interesting thing is that
32:36there are a lot of tweets
32:38in Pakistan.
32:40A lot of tweets are not part of their timeline.
32:42My understanding is that
32:44there is a mechanism
32:46set up
32:48that
32:50old tweets are deleted
32:52from a specific date.
32:54It's not like they deleted
32:56particularly old tweets.
32:58There are a lot of new tweets as well.
33:00In this,
33:02Amir Ilyas Rana
33:04says that
33:06Amir Ilyas Rana
33:08had a conversation with Richard Grinnell
33:10about those tweets.
33:12If I'm not mistaken,
33:14this is the first time
33:16that someone is giving an opinion
33:18about Mr. Grinnell.
33:20Mr. Grinnell himself
33:22has been giving his opinion
33:24about those tweets.
33:26What does he say?
33:28Does he say that
33:30Amir Ilyas Rana is still alive?
33:32What does he say about Mr. Grinnell's tweets?
34:00Amir Ilyas Rana
34:02has anything but respect
34:04for the leadership here.
34:24Look, I think he may have been misled.
34:26I also would tell you
34:28he personally told me there are
34:30a number of deep fake
34:32AI
34:34presentations on the Internet
34:36that have been made
34:38out there about that
34:40that actually is not true or real at all.
34:42So,
34:44he's been disappointed.
34:46But I think Mr. Grinnell,
34:48Ambassador Grinnell,
34:52has a very clear
34:54defined view and I think
34:56that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
35:26Amir Ilyas Rana
35:28has a very clear defined view and I think
35:30that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
35:56Amir Ilyas Rana
35:58has a very clear defined view and I think
36:00that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
36:26Amir Ilyas Rana
36:28has a very clear defined view and I think
36:30that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
36:56Amir Ilyas Rana
36:58has a very clear defined view and I think
37:00that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
37:26Amir Ilyas Rana
37:28has a very clear defined view and I think
37:30that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
37:32Amir Ilyas Rana
37:34has a very clear defined view and I think
37:36that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
37:38Amir Ilyas Rana
37:40has a very clear defined view and I think
37:42that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
37:44Amir Ilyas Rana
37:46has a very clear defined view and I think
37:48that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
37:50Amir Ilyas Rana
37:52has a very clear defined view and I think
37:54that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
37:56Amir Ilyas Rana
37:58has a very clear defined view and I think
38:00that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
38:02Amir Ilyas Rana
38:04has a very clear defined view and I think
38:06that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
38:08Amir Ilyas Rana
38:10has a very clear defined view and I think
38:12that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
38:14Amir Ilyas Rana
38:16has a very clear defined view and I think
38:18that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
38:20Amir Ilyas Rana
38:22has a very clear defined view and I think
38:24that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
38:52Amir Ilyas Rana
38:54has a very clear defined view and I think
38:56that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
39:22Amir Ilyas Rana
39:24has a very clear defined view and I think
39:26that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
39:28Amir Ilyas Rana
39:30has a very clear defined view and I think
39:32that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
39:34Amir Ilyas Rana
39:36has a very clear defined view and I think
39:38that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
39:40Amir Ilyas Rana
39:42has a very clear defined view and I think
39:44that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
39:46Amir Ilyas Rana
39:48has a very clear defined view and I think
39:50that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
40:20Amir Ilyas Rana
40:22has a very clear defined view and I think
40:24that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
40:50Amir Ilyas Rana
40:52has a very clear defined view and I think
40:54that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
40:56Amir Ilyas Rana
40:58has a very clear defined view and I think
41:00that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
41:02Amir Ilyas Rana
41:04has a very clear defined view and I think
41:06that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
41:08Amir Ilyas Rana
41:10has a very clear defined view and I think
41:12that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
41:14Amir Ilyas Rana
41:16has a very clear defined view and I think
41:18that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
41:20Amir Ilyas Rana
41:22has a very clear defined view and I think
41:24that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
41:26Amir Ilyas Rana
41:28has a very clear defined view and I think
41:30that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
41:32Amir Ilyas Rana
41:34has a very clear defined view and I think
41:36that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
41:38Amir Ilyas Rana
41:40has a very clear defined view and I think
41:42that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
41:44Amir Ilyas Rana
41:46has a very clear defined view and I think
41:48that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
42:16Amir Ilyas Rana
42:18has a very clear defined view and I think
42:20that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
42:22Amir Ilyas Rana
42:24has a very clear defined view and I think
42:26that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
42:28Amir Ilyas Rana
42:30has a very clear defined view and I think
42:32that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
42:34Amir Ilyas Rana
42:36has a very clear defined view and I think
42:38that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
42:40Amir Ilyas Rana
42:42has a very clear defined view and I think
42:44that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
43:14Amir Ilyas Rana
43:16has a very clear defined view and I think
43:18that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
43:20Amir Ilyas Rana
43:22has a very clear defined view and I think
43:24that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
43:26Amir Ilyas Rana
43:28has a very clear defined view and I think
43:30that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
43:32Amir Ilyas Rana
43:34has a very clear defined view and I think
43:36that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
43:38Amir Ilyas Rana
43:40has a very clear defined view and I think
43:42that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
43:44Amir Ilyas Rana
43:46has a very clear defined view and I think
43:48that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
43:50Amir Ilyas Rana
43:52has a very clear defined view and I think
43:54that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
43:56Amir Ilyas Rana
43:58has a very clear defined view and I think
44:00that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
44:02Amir Ilyas Rana
44:04has a very clear defined view and I think
44:06that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
44:08Amir Ilyas Rana
44:10has a very clear defined view and I think
44:12that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
44:40Amir Ilyas Rana
44:42has a very clear defined view and I think
44:44that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
44:46Amir Ilyas Rana
44:48has a very clear defined view and I think
44:50that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
44:52Amir Ilyas Rana
44:54has a very clear defined view and I think
44:56that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
44:58Amir Ilyas Rana
45:00has a very clear defined view and I think
45:02that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
45:04Amir Ilyas Rana
45:06has a very clear defined view and I think
45:08that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
45:38Amir Ilyas Rana
45:40has a very clear defined view and I think
45:42that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
45:44Amir Ilyas Rana
45:46has a very clear defined view and I think
45:48that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
46:08Amir Ilyas Rana
46:10has a very clear defined view and I think
46:12that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
46:14Amir Ilyas Rana
46:16has a very clear defined view and I think
46:18that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
46:20Amir Ilyas Rana
46:22has a very clear defined view and I think
46:24that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
46:26Amir Ilyas Rana
46:28has a very clear defined view and I think
46:30that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
46:32Amir Ilyas Rana
46:34has a very clear defined view and I think
46:36that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
47:06Amir Ilyas Rana
47:08has a very clear defined view and I think
47:10that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
47:36Amir Ilyas Rana
47:38has a very clear defined view and I think
47:40that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
47:42Amir Ilyas Rana
47:44has a very clear defined view and I think
47:46that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
47:48Amir Ilyas Rana
47:50has a very clear defined view and I think
47:52that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
47:54Amir Ilyas Rana
47:56has a very clear defined view and I think
47:58that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
48:00Amir Ilyas Rana
48:02has a very clear defined view and I think
48:04that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
48:34Amir Ilyas Rana
48:36has a very clear defined view and I think
48:38that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
49:04Amir Ilyas Rana
49:06has a very clear defined view and I think
49:08that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
49:10Amir Ilyas Rana
49:12has a very clear defined view and I think
49:14that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
49:16Amir Ilyas Rana
49:18has a very clear defined view and I think
49:20that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
49:22Amir Ilyas Rana
49:24has a very clear defined view and I think
49:26that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
49:28Amir Ilyas Rana
49:30has a very clear defined view and I think
49:32that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
50:02Amir Ilyas Rana
50:04has a very clear defined view and I think
50:06that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
50:32Amir Ilyas Rana
50:34has a very clear defined view and I think
50:36that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.
51:02Amir Ilyas Rana
51:04has a very clear defined view and I think
51:06that's everything we're doing in Pakistan.