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00:00Saludos, soy Marga Párez y les agradezco la invitación a este interview por Revista
00:24Medicina y Salud Pública.
00:26On this occasion, we'll be interviewing Dr. Terry Denay and Mr. Dan Denay. She's the founder
00:32and he's the CEO of Ebexia's Health Solutions, a company based in Texas that is an emerging
00:38leader in preventive medicine solutions for men and women. Thank you both for allowing
00:43us to interview you.
00:44Thank you for your time.
00:45Thanks for being here.
00:46Dr. Terry Denay is the founder of Ebexia's Health Solutions and creator of the Ebexie
00:51Pill Method. She also leads the Ebexia's Medical Advisory Board that primarily aims
00:56to support education and knowledge resources, giving the medical community the opportunity
01:01to approach and treat their patients in an innovative and refreshing way. A board certified
01:06nurse practitioner, Dr. Denay has also distinguished herself as a nationally renowned speaker,
01:11author of the book, Hormone Havoc, Caos Hormonal, and entrepreneur. She holds advanced certifications
01:19in hormone replacement therapy, preventive wellness medicine, and functional medicine.
01:25Mr. Dan Denay is also a distinguished enterpriser, executive leader, and mentor who has excelled
01:31in both the public and private sectors. He has stood out in several areas from business
01:36development to strategic planning and implementation, marketplace execution, macro and micro business
01:43systems, executive sales, coaching, human behavior, psychology, and public speaking.
01:49He has also created a number of highly profitable companies, and since 2017, he's the CEO of
01:56Ebexia's. Thank you once again for being with us and navigating through this important topic
02:01for both men and women related to prevention and improving their health. And to everyone
02:07watching, stay tuned. This interview is bound to be very interesting and will provide you
02:12important insights to help improve your health. Dr. Denay, first of all, this is your second
02:19time here in Puerto Rico. The first time was in November for the launch of the Ebexia Pell,
02:24a hormone therapy in the form of pellets that you will be explaining to us a little bit
02:28later, and this time for the launch of the Spanish version of your book, Hormone Havoc,
02:33Caos Hormonal. Why did you choose to do this important event in Puerto Rico?
02:39Well, primarily because the practitioners that I've met in Puerto Rico and the practitioners
02:45that are joined our network are very passionate about disease prevention and health and wellness
02:50and hormones as a cornerstone to that. And that's what this book is all about. So it's
02:56exciting to launch first time in Puerto Rico. We have also quite a bit of Latin American
03:03following in Texas, obviously, and even in our border states where we have clinicians
03:08all over the country that really have been excited for the Spanish version of the book
03:13to come out. But Puerto Rico gets it first. Great. Dr. Denay, your career in medicine
03:18began as a hospitalist in emergency medicine, where you quickly learned that the focus in
03:24that area was on disease management rather than prevention. Tell us about it. What inspired
03:30you to shift to a more integrative and alternative health care?
03:34Yeah, so spending many years in the hospital working with a big hospitalist group in Dallas-Fort Worth
03:41Metroplex, I quickly realized we were primarily disease managers. And, you know, all the things
03:49that we would treat in the hospital, acute disease management or problems related to
03:56a chronic disease like hypertension, cardiovascular disease, diabetes, Alzheimer's disease, things
04:01like that. I realized there was a huge piece that we were missing in prevention. All of
04:07these diseases are preventable. So why aren't we doing more to focus on disease prevention
04:13rather than figuring out what new prescription medication to prescribe for a symptom of
04:18that disease? And that just really led me down this path of continuing my education in integrative
04:26therapies, alternative therapies. And I landed at a big hormone conference and didn't really
04:33understand because we're not trained to understand that hormones have anything to do with the
04:38rest of the body besides hot flashes when you're a certain age or whatever. But I quickly
04:44learned that hormones are the key foundation to every body process. And when our hormones
04:50are optimized, we have a big chance against a lot of preventative disease, especially
04:57in the brain, in the heart, the big systems. Alzheimer's disease is a big one I'm very
05:01passionate about, mental health, depression, things like that. Hormones play an active
05:06active role. So rather than continuing just a band-aid with a lot of prescriptions, it
05:11really became my focus to figure out how can we reverse some of these things and get patients
05:16off many of these medications that were never intended to be a long-term solution.
05:20Now, take us through your journey when you began to pursue extensive education in hormone
05:26optimization, integrative health, preventive care, and alternative medicine. What was the
05:31most striking aspect that caught your attention and motivated you to discover pellet therapy
05:36and the benefits of testosterone in women and led you to create the Evacivel method?
05:42Yeah, that's a great question. So when I first was learning about hormones years,
05:4815 years ago, it was education that was more centered around estrogen for women and testosterone
05:54for men. And I started my clinic and started treating patients, but there was just something
05:59missing that wasn't being translated in the education that I'd been through. And through
06:06a mutual friend, I met another doctor out of Scottsdale, Arizona, that was doing hormone
06:13pellets, but primarily testosterone in women. And that is something that I had never heard
06:18of. It wasn't really taught. It wasn't really anything that was mainstream. But when I sat
06:24down and spoke with him about what are pellets and what is this testosterone in women, I
06:29thought it was a man's hormone. I learned very quickly that that was the missing piece
06:34to the therapy in my patients. So many women that are suffering from depression, anxiety,
06:39irritability, mood swings, all of these things before menopause and the hormone changes happen
06:44are all testosterone deficiency that can happen in our early 30s, after our second baby, no
06:50matter the age. And so it was really, I became very passionate about it because I fit that
06:54mold also. That was the timing of my life where I was experiencing these things. And
07:00so I just kept learning and treating my patients and it just grew from there.
07:03Great. So we know that educating your patients and empowering them with knowledge is a core
07:09part of your approach. How does this philosophy translate into your practice at Abexias?
07:16Well, I have two clinics in the Dallas-Fort Worth area and that was the first of the companies.
07:23They're Abexias Medical Centers. And that is where we have implemented this hormone
07:29therapy. Now I have tens of thousands of hormone pellet procedures we've done over the years
07:35and just learning. I've really learned a lot from my patients, you know, and learning just
07:40different ways that hormone optimization impacted their lives, not just getting them off some
07:46of their chronic disease medications like antidepressants and anxiety medications, and
07:50even in some cases, blood pressure medications because they lost weight or diabetes medications
07:56because they shifted their whole body composition. But also a very one that's super important
08:01to me and I'm very passionate about is the relationships because what we were seeing
08:05was so many relationships were healing, marriages that had gotten very tense and stressful because
08:12let's face it, when you're depressed, moody, anxious, irritable, can't sleep, can't focus,
08:16all of those things, it impacts your relationships. And we tend to unfortunately take it out on
08:21the people that we love the most. And so that is where I kept seeing this shift in
08:25relationships and marriages that were not doing well, all of a sudden, you know, coming
08:31back to life and just story after story. So not only the the disease management piece
08:36of it, but to see the impact that made in families and in the family unit is just makes
08:41my heart so happy.
08:44What are some of the key benefits of hormone therapy? And how does it fit into the broader
08:48picture of health and wellness for your patients?
08:52Well, the primary benefits besides what I've already talked about with just feeling better,
08:58we see in many clinical studies, the the ability of hormones to mitigate or or prevent Alzheimer's
09:06disease, prevent cardiovascular disease. And it's also very preventative against breast
09:11cancer. A lot of people don't know this, because we've been told differently. But there's a
09:15lot of new studies that even show hormone therapy in women, especially testosterone
09:19and even estrogen naturally can be preventative against breast cancer. So a lot of disease
09:25prevention is is really key. And that's where I see just one of the biggest clinical impacts
09:32is getting patients off a lot of these medications that are costing them a lot of money. They're
09:36causing other side effects, and just causing other issues in their life that they would
09:42rather not deal with.
09:44What makes the simple method stand out from other hormone replacement therapies? And why
09:49do you believe it has it has been so successful?
09:52Well, one of the things that we're very passionate about is making it better. I'm always asking
09:59the question, how can how can it be better? And learning even from my own clinicians that
10:05I've trained clinicians that work with me, and even our patients on things that they
10:11would like to see improved with the therapy, like lower side effect profile, less discomfort,
10:17less side effects after the hormone pellet procedure, we've really dialed in on that
10:22and perfected the hormone pellet procedure exponentially greater than when I learned
10:28it. Especially for men, that was a big area where we really need to improve was with the
10:33male procedure. And now, wow, it's just it's it's just a game changer. Some of the changes
10:40that we've made to improve the therapy physically, and from a side effect profile and just how
10:45patients feel, has just been awesome.
10:48Great. Precisely, I wanted to ask you, how do you generally perceive the reception of
10:53hormone therapy among both men and women? Is there still a lack of knowledge, fear and
11:00education on the topic, particularly regarding the benefits of this approach?
11:05Well, it's why I wrote the book and the book in English was launched in 2023. And because
11:10there's still so much misinformation and confusion, especially in certain pockets of the country
11:16and of the world. But I would say, compared to a decade ago, there's a lot more knowledge
11:22and a lot more interest in hormone therapy and hormone optimization. I think that's just
11:28a testament to what we've done over the past decade with educating doctors, and getting
11:33the word out and getting more and more patients treated. And now it's becoming a more accepted
11:39thing. You know, before, women didn't really talk about hormone changes and men surely
11:44didn't talk about anything like that. But now I think it's it's less taboo and people
11:49are really wanting to just feel better and have just a better quality of life. And so
11:55I think it's we've got a long way to go, but it's much better than it was.
11:59And as you said, we'll learn more on reading your book. But could you briefly share a success
12:04story or testimonials from patients who have seen a significant change in their lives through
12:09this treatment? Or may I say for this medical approach to optimize their health?
12:13Oh, yeah, great story. The first one that pops to mind is a patient that came to me
12:19through her daughter. So her daughter became a patient, her daughter, and her husband were
12:26having a difficult time in their marriage, their children were a little bit older, she
12:30was going through some hormone changes. And she heard about us through a friend came to
12:35us, it completely changed her life, their marriage. And then when she had a different
12:41set of lenses on, she could see her mother in herself, and the strife between her parents
12:48for many, many years. So she really wanted her mother to come see us because her mother
12:52suffered from a lot of depression, and a lot of moodiness, and just general attitude
12:58towards life. And the mother that she grew up with was not that she was happy, she was
13:04engaged and full of life. And so she just kind of saw her mom really shift her personality.
13:10So she brought she talked her mom into seeing us finally. And I and her and her father was
13:16a retired obstetrician OBGYN from South America. And they came in together and I took care
13:24of his wife. And about five weeks later, she came back for a follow up visit. And she was
13:30sitting in the chair to get her blood drawn. And we were doing a recheck and she starts
13:34crying. And I my first thought was, I didn't get this one, right? I messed something up,
13:39you know, she's still upset. And then when she got it together, she looked at me and
13:43she said, No, I just have to say I haven't liked my husband for 25 years. And I kind
13:51of thought, and she said, and I realized that was me and not him. And I feel like time has
13:58been wasted. And so she was 65. Her husband was in his 80s, there was a little bit of
14:03an age gap, and she felt like there was all this time that had been wasted. And so two
14:08weeks later, I go in to see my next patient, and it's her husband. And he said, before
14:14we get started, I just want to tell you thank you for giving me my wife back. It chokes
14:18me up. Because this is a whole family that it impacted. And he said, if I would, I wish
14:25I would have known about this therapy when I was a practicing gynecologist based on the
14:30changes I've seen in my wife, I would have put every female on it. And he said, Now I'm
14:36coming in to get the therapy because I can't keep up with her. And now I need that kind
14:40of energy. And they remain patients to this day, you know, and now he's close to 100.
14:47And she's in her late 70s and vibrant. And that is just the stories. There are many stories
14:53like that. But that one really strikes me because it's a whole family of changed lives.
14:59Great story. Thank you. And what other forms of prevention and health improvement do you
15:04foresee in the future? We're very passionate about peptides, peptide therapy. We were using
15:12them quite a lot and teaching and training on them quite a lot. And I really see that
15:17along with hormones being the future of medicine prevention, preventative, what we call regenerative
15:23therapies were therapies that can regenerate tissue and help help the body heal on its
15:28own. The human body is an incredible machine. And if we just give it what it needs, in the
15:33form of hormones and nutrition and rest, and even as we age, certain peptides, even
15:40stem cells and exosomes and some other things that are challenging for patients to get.
15:47If we can really move the needle in that direction and get away from this disease management
15:53model, it's just going to be a game changer for humanity, really. Great. Thank you, Dr.
15:59Denay. Now let's move on to the enterprise aspect with Mr. Denay, which is crucial for
16:05the growth and availability of this approach to medicine and health improvement. Mr. Denay,
16:10Sevilla offers a range of services. As CEO, how do you make the company stand out and
16:17offer something unique compared to other wellness centers or health clinics? Well, I think first
16:24of all, the training that we offer our practitioners, the partnership that we offer our practitioners
16:33where they don't just come to our conferences, learn some stuff and then go back and try
16:40to implement the whole therapy on their own. We have practice development specialists and
16:49they are specifically trained. In fact, we spend hundreds of thousands of dollars a year
16:54training each one of these people to go in and work side by side with the practitioner
17:00to ensure that they're going to be extremely successful. So they come to our conference
17:06and they learn the therapy, but then they need to know the business aspect. They need to know,
17:10as you say, the enterprise aspect. And that includes, you know, how to interact with patients,
17:16how to educate patients. I mean, that's one of the things that is difficult to do in a short
17:21amount of time because you're going to the doctor and you're, you know, it's very quick, very quick.
17:25So that's the first thing is making sure that you have a partner. And that's one of the reasons
17:30we see practitioners come in and go to other medical conferences that are great conferences.
17:36But if they don't have a partner to help them implement whatever they learn, many times they
17:42go back to their practice and they try it and they kind of fail. And then what happens is they
17:47stop doing the therapy. Could be a great therapy, but they stopped doing it because they don't have
17:51a partnership. So that's vitally, vitally important to making us different than anyone
17:57else that's out there. We're just going to stand alongside of you with a partnership. And then,
18:02of course, our big footprint, our marketing footprint of having Avexapel as a household
18:09recognized name brand where people go, I want Avexapel and then all of the marketing that goes
18:15along with that. Probably the third thing I would say is just superior patient outcomes
18:22because we have improved the diagnosis and the actual therapy, the follow-up of side effects,
18:31the diminished amount of side effects that we have developed within our brand of Avexapel.
18:38It's a lot different than how pellet therapy was five, ten years ago. Completely different.
18:44The results are different. So the patient's coming back in because they have a great response.
18:50They're very happy with their results. They don't have the side effects that you may have seen five
18:55or ten years ago. So I'd say those are the top three reasons and top three things that kind of
19:00separate us out from everyone else. What do you consider the biggest challenge in healthcare today
19:07and how does your approach at Betsy's address it? Regulation, I will say right off the bat.
19:14There has been a propensity over the years within the medical community, within the FDA,
19:23a lot of the government agencies that mean well. I'm not saying that they don't mean well,
19:29but a regulation upon another regulation upon another regulation, all it does is it restricts
19:37access for patients and it restricts access for practitioners because then there's this
19:43kind of gridlock where there's learning and they're knowing things and there's new studies
19:47coming out supporting therapies, but then they can't get to them. They can't get to them because
19:52well, the FDA doesn't allow that or the DEA doesn't allow that or a board of pharmacy doesn't
19:57allow that and that's the biggest challenge. I will say that with the new administration,
20:02with RFK Jr., we're huge fans of his. In fact, Terry and I were able to meet him not too long ago
20:10and just spend a little bit of time with him and we started talking about peptides and how
20:15helpful they are and what a game changer they can be to help people have healthy aging so the
20:22disease process doesn't burden them down through so that when they end up at 60 or 70 years old,
20:27they're kind of decrepit in a wheelchair, you know, taking 10 different pharmaceuticals.
20:33So right off the top of my head, I can answer you that question very simply.
20:37It's regulation. So with the changes and the new administration and RFK Jr. coming in and really
20:44supporting what we do, which is preventative integrative healthcare, it's going to be a game
20:50changer and if we can get on top of that and prove, which we do, we're collecting all this
20:58data to be able to prove what we're doing has a direct effect on the aging population, it's
21:05going to be a home run. As CEO of Avesia, what's your vision for the company? What are your goals
21:12for its growth in the future? So our mission statement is to transform the practice of
21:18medicine, meaning very simply put, why do you go to the doctor? Traditionally, you go to the
21:25doctor, you get sick, you go to the doctor, you don't get really well all the time, they just
21:29give you a prescription and maybe you feel a little better, but then you're stuck on that
21:32prescription for the rest of your life many times. We are changing what it means to go to the doctor.
21:38You go to the doctor to stay well and so we're teaching our practitioners and we've trained
21:45close to 10,000 practitioners already all across the United States, Puerto Rico,
21:51and we have just trained them to have the approach of medicine of what Dr. Denay was
21:59saying earlier, which is give the body what it needs to repair itself in an individualized fashion.
22:05That's the other piece that has been missing from medicine for such a long time. It's been a
22:10one-size-fits-all. It doesn't matter if you're a male, a female, it doesn't matter your race,
22:16it's just the same dose because that's what the paper says I need to give you.
22:21That's not the way that we do medicine. So when you ask about our vision for the
22:25for the company, it's to train doctors to individualize healthcare in a preventative
22:34and integrative way that allows a person to age gracefully is really what it comes down to.
22:40So that when you end up at 70 or 80 years old or 50 or 60 years old, pick your number,
22:46you've done the things prior and you know you've started early enough in your in your 20s and in
22:51your 30s and your 40s so that when you get to those golden age years, you are still healthy,
22:58you're still vibrant, you're still active, you're able to interact with the kids and the grandkids
23:03and the great grandkids, you can still play golf, you can still play tennis and you don't have all
23:07these aches and pains and you know reason to oh I can't go and do something that I used to really
23:13like because my knee is all messed up or you know I have arthritis or I have a heart condition,
23:19name it. So it is a dynamic shift in the way that healthcare is viewed and it is fantastic
23:28to see so many doctors here in Puerto Rico and nurse practitioners and medical practitioners
23:36that are just absorbing this and they're realizing they're having, I see it when I meet with them,
23:41they're having the aha moment, they're having that like oh my gosh we can do better for our
23:47patients and what's great about it is the practitioners are enjoying doing medicine
23:54again. It's not a burden to them, they're able to see patients come in and actually
24:01see their lives change and enjoy, have fun with that and there's nothing that's more rewarding
24:05than that. I have two more questions for both of you and an extra bonus for our viewers.
24:12How was the idea for Evencia's Born? Did you always knew you'd work together in this field
24:18or was it something that evolved over time? It definitely evolved over time.
24:27Interestingly, you know after I had gone to that initial conference that I talked that shifted my
24:33mindset, I was on a plane flying to Arizona to train with a doctor who at the time was the
24:39leader in hormone pellet therapy in Arizona and I met Dan on a plane there so that's how we met
24:50and a couple of years later, you know several months later we started dating and then a couple
24:55of years later we began to, he began to come to some of my lectures and my talks and kind of was
25:02seeing what was happening and going I think I could help this whole enterprise because
25:08at the time it was just me in my clinics and I could only impact my sphere of influence with
25:14my patients in a certain geographic area but he was really brilliant about bringing in his
25:20experience and being able to create a distribution channel to really train and get clinicians across
25:26the country and really across the globe involved in this therapy so it definitely evolved.
25:32Is medicine increasingly shifting towards this focus on prevention and well-being
25:38or is more education needed about its benefits both for the patients and in terms of cost
25:44effectiveness for with healthier individuals? The answer to that, all of those questions is yes.
25:52It is, there are way far more people that are very interested in this, practitioners are interested
25:59in it and what that drives is the opportunity for more education so I applaud you and your
26:06viewers and your organization for focusing on education. It's just about getting information,
26:13people don't know what they don't know. If you're able to get the information out and it's simple,
26:19it's succinct, it's understandable, that's you know her book Hormone Havoc is, it's just like
26:27very conversational, just like us sitting here and having conversations, she writes it that way,
26:32very simple to understand so as we continue to evolve and I like what you said about that,
26:39we have the original claim check that we were sitting at, I don't know if we were sitting at
26:46a restaurant and we just started having all these ideas about developing Abexia and we didn't know
26:52the name of it, we didn't know anything, we just and we still have the actual paper where we're
26:57drawing out how everything works and she has it on a frame on her desk and we look at it every
27:02now and again because there's areas that we had wrote down that we thought we're not even thinking
27:07about and now we look back on it and we go wow we have that now so it's a you know it's quite a
27:12journey and power of intention it is and it's very very exciting. So Dr. and Mr. Denay, thank you again
27:19for being with us on this very interesting interview. I surely enjoyed it and learned a lot
27:26and I know our viewers also so for our audience stay tuned for other interviews as is interesting
27:33as this one in the near future here at Revista Medicina y Salud Pública. I'm Marga Párez, see you soon.
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