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"No está en condiciones psicológicas"
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"No está en condiciones psicológicas"
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00:00Juan Manuel, we are connecting with you. Are you there?
00:03Yes, yes, we are here. Marina has just left.
00:07How was Morena's statement?
00:11In the end, she refused to declare.
00:16She refused to declare, she was not in good condition.
00:20She also had a strong pain in her wrists,
00:23to which I had to insist on the Public Prosecutor's Office,
00:26they did not want her to do it in writing,
00:29and until it was resolved, the condition could worsen in her hands.
00:33Yes. What does she have in her hands?
00:36They handcuffed her very aggressively,
00:38and this caused a deterioration,
00:40more than she already had, I think, a crack,
00:43and well, she has them quite inflamed,
00:45a matter that was made known to the Public Prosecutor's Office,
00:48to Mr. Fiscal Ferrari, who did not want to put it in the act
00:51so that a doctor would not attend it and that I would ask for it,
00:54but after a discussion, well, he put it in the act in a bad way,
00:58I do not understand why, because the truth is that I am asking
01:01nothing more than that the human rights of her be respected,
01:03as a woman.
01:04And what was the case?
01:06In short.
01:07We did not do anything because she could not declare like that,
01:09she was sleeping on the floor, she did not have psychic conditions,
01:12nor any condition for her to be declared.
01:15But she was made aware of the description of the facts,
01:17all that, and then she refused to declare, is that so?
01:19She refused to declare, on my advice, because she could not declare.
01:21What did she tell you? How is she? How does she feel?
01:23She feels bad, she is in pain, and well, I hope,
01:26now that the court is not on duty, that is,
01:29the inquiry was taken out of a judicial schedule,
01:31so the petitioners will enter only tomorrow,
01:36and well, the only thing I hope is that the inherent rights
01:40to the human being are respected, not just the woman,
01:43because apparently the judicial party does not respect it.
01:45Did she ask for her baby?
01:46She asked, she is still there.
01:47How many more days would she stay?
01:49How many more days would she stay?
01:50And now she has to resolve the guarantee trial,
01:52and I hope they can fight for their guarantees.
01:55Did the request for expulsion appear?
01:58No, because they didn't want to take it,
01:59she made it enter the act,
02:03because since she is not in the guarantee trial on duty,
02:05they didn't want to do it to me, that's why.
02:07No, she was introduced,
02:09the petitioner of the house arrest was introduced.
02:11She has not eaten for two days?
02:13Yes, she has not eaten for two days,
02:14now I was able to reach her something,
02:15and I'm going to see if at night ...
02:16Where is Morena going?
02:17Back to the same police station.
02:19Are you going to ask for a change of police station, doctor?
02:21The house arrest,
02:22but the reality is that you have to see now
02:25the guarantee judge how long it takes,
02:27and the truth is ...
02:28Are you going to talk to Jorge Real?
02:29No, no, no, I haven't told him anything yet.
02:31Doctor, are you going to ask for a change
02:33of the place where she is detained, of the police station?
02:36No, now I'm just going to wait for a doctor to attend to her,
02:40which is what corresponds,
02:41which apparently they don't like in this judicial party.
02:43How long will they transfer her?
02:45They have to transfer her right now.
02:46What does Morena comment on the facts?
02:48No, no, no, we couldn't talk much,
02:49because, I repeat, she just arrived,
02:51everything was done very quickly,
02:52and she is not in psychological conditions
02:54to understand something.
02:56The truth is that I'm not going to get technical
02:59about a file,
03:00it's not going to add anything.
03:02It's a one and a half hour,
03:03but the process was very fast.
03:05That's why,
03:06because Morena is not in a condition to face a process.
03:08Did you see a psychologist, a psychiatrist?
03:10No, nobody yet.
03:11I hope, and I'm going to request it anyway.
03:12I send you greetings.
03:13Thank you, thank you.
03:14Well, next ...
03:15Do you want to talk to the doctor?
03:16Ale, Ale, Ale.
03:18Yes, yes.
03:22One question, one question, nothing more.
03:25Yes, one minute, Ale.
03:28Thank you, thank you, Dr. Chipola.
03:30I know you are very tired,
03:31that they are very long days.
03:33We are shocked,
03:34because we had the information,
03:36also ratified by a note of yours,
03:38that you told us,
03:39you told Juan Manuel,
03:40he is going to declare, Morena.
03:42That is, you entered the prosecution
03:44convinced that your client was going to declare,
03:46and then he found something
03:48that made him change his mind.
03:49Tell us that, doctor,
03:50because we are shocked.
03:52No, the change of opinion
03:54was Morena's conditions, nothing more.
03:56Of course.
03:57Morena's psychological conditions.
03:59Can you describe to us
04:00the conditions in which he found her?
04:02And she is,
04:03and she is very exhausted.
04:06She can't keep a conversation,
04:08a thread,
04:09because of her own fatigue.
04:10It's true,
04:11I couldn't remember two words together,
04:13so I preferred not to.
04:14You have to understand
04:15that she hasn't slept for 48 hours,
04:17and her previous 24 hours
04:19were on a floor,
04:20and she used a pillow,
04:23a buzzer.
04:24Alejandro, could you see the file?
04:27Yes, I saw it,
04:28and there is absolutely nothing there.
04:29There are 40 sheets of file,
04:31and there are no individuals yet.
04:33There is no individualization of people.
04:35And do you already have an answer
04:36of why she was there
04:37while she was committing the robbery?
04:40No, no, no.
04:41I didn't have any,
04:42because I couldn't talk either.
04:43I mean,
04:44do you have an explanation
04:45of what she was doing there
04:46at that moment
04:47while they were robbing?
04:48I don't know,
04:49I don't have to explain.
04:50She wasn't seen entering,
04:51even when these people
04:52descended,
04:53she left.
04:54And she comes back
04:55after a while,
04:57so now
04:58it's the State
04:59who should believe me
05:00that she had knowledge,
05:01or even an opinion,
05:02if she sees her
05:03with police personnel.
05:04I ask you beyond,
05:05of course,
05:06the service station
05:07that we voted for yesterday,
05:08I ask you beyond that,
05:09I ask you
05:10if you,
05:11the people who are looking at you,
05:12do you have an explanation
05:13of what she was doing
05:14in San Isidro
05:15at 10 p.m.
05:16that Saturday
05:17while they were robbing
05:1820 meters away?
05:19No, she was there
05:20with two acquaintances.
05:21The stranger
05:22couldn't explain it to me
05:23either,
05:24because he didn't want
05:25to investigate
05:26because of his mental situation.
05:28So I prefer
05:29for now
05:30to protect that
05:31and it's a job
05:32of the justice
05:33to prove,
05:34to have it accredited.
05:36I am also surprised
05:37by the speed
05:38of such an exquisite file
05:41without an investigation,
05:42because they could have
05:43waited a little longer
05:44and tried to determine
05:45who was the other person
05:46who is not identified.
05:47They could have waited
05:48to see if they could have
05:49effective arrests.
05:50The only arrest
05:51that exists so far
05:52is that of Morena.
05:53Some short things,
05:54Alejandro,
05:55you said that
05:56she had her wrists
05:57very, very hurt,
05:58very swollen
05:59by the placement
06:00of the spouses.
06:01Does that configure
06:02some kind of legal imprisonment?
06:03How would you describe it?
06:04No, no, no, no,
06:05no, no, no,
06:06no, no, no, no, no,
06:07no, no, no, no, no,
06:08no, no, no, no, no,
06:09no, no, no, no, no,
06:10no.
06:11It's an inhuman treatment,
06:12nothing more,
06:13not a legal imprisonment.
06:14Well, but inhuman treatment
06:15is not a minor issue.
06:16That's a discussion.
06:17It's not a minor issue,
06:18that's why I highlighted it
06:19with the Attorney General
06:20of the National Public
06:21Trustee,
06:22who, in a bad way,
06:23did not want to accept her,
06:24and between the discussion
06:25she had to accept her
06:26so that a doctor
06:27can see her.
06:28Good.
06:29Yes, yes, Martín.
06:30Sorry, sorry, Mariana.
06:31Simply,
06:32if Morena knows
06:33any of the two fugitives
06:34who are responsible?
06:35Yes, he knows them,
06:36but the DA
06:37also did not want
06:38Oh, it doesn't matter. I can't say it.
06:41No, no, no. They're friends, acquaintances.
06:44No, no, no. Acquaintances. He just knows him by name.
06:48I'm still shocked by what you're saying, Alejandro,
06:50because you're saying that the prosecutor wasn't interested in her collaborating.
06:53I heard you say yesterday... What's going on there?
06:56I heard you say yesterday that she was willing to give details...
06:59Oh, Morena Real is coming out.
07:01Morena is coming out right there. That's why we cut a second of the doctor.
07:04She got in the car, they're going to take her.
07:07She's going back to the police station, right?
07:10Yes, she's going back to the police station.
07:12Now I think they're going to take her to the doctor and then back to the police station.
07:15Oh, first to the doctor.
07:16And they should take her to the doctor.
07:17Why to the doctor? Because of the dolls or because of her mood and emotional state?
07:21No, no, no, no. Because of the dolls. She has them inflamed.
07:25And it can get to have... You can drink that.
07:28And aggravate it.
07:30I understand. Now, Alejandro, I go back to what I was saying.
07:32Yesterday you said that she was willing to give details of the other members of the gang and of the responsibilities.
07:39That is, willing to collaborate with the justice system, I imagine, to improve her situation.
07:44The prosecution did not accept this?
07:47No, the prosecutor, very arrogantly, both to provide medical attention and another, did not want to.
07:54I understand that it is a judicial party that is overwhelmed by insecurity.
08:00I don't understand the arrogance.
08:02He is an inoperative, more than anything.
08:04I leave it to you.
08:05Well, the doctor is leaving.
08:07The doctor, yes.
08:08Well, thank the doctor.