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00:00In the name of Allah, the most Gracious, the most Merciful.
00:14As-salamu alaykum.
00:15This is Ashfaq Ishaq Siddiq with the program of the record.
00:18We were talking about negotiations a while ago.
00:21But the negotiations seemed to be breaking down.
00:24After that, the issue of letters began.
00:26And now, wherever we see, letters are being written.
00:29Whether it is a letter from Shibli Faraz to the Chairman of the Senate,
00:33or a letter from Bani PTI to the Army Chief,
00:36or if we discuss it in the same way,
00:39letters are being written in Pakistan's politics.
00:43Then, you see, a letter was written in the name of the Chief Justice from Bani PTI.
00:48So, overall, there is a lot of discussion about letters.
00:50Then, important meetings are taking place.
00:52Meetings are taking place, and especially a few days ago,
00:54we were discussing that the IMF delegation has reached Pakistan,
00:57and there will be a lot of discussion.
00:58But this time, they are looking at things at a micro level.
01:01Just today, they met with the Chief Justice of Pakistan.
01:06And the Law and Justice Commission was also with them.
01:08So, we will try to find out what happened.
01:11And we will also discuss a little in the program
01:13whether the negotiations that were taking place between the government and the PTI,
01:16have they broken down, or is there any hope for them to be revived?
01:20So, let us first introduce our guest to you.
01:22Barrister Jheel Malik is with us.
01:24He is from Pakistan Muslim League.
01:26Thank you very much for your time.
01:27Also, Senator Humayun Mahmood is with us.
01:30He will represent Tehrik-e-Ansar.
01:32So, we will start our discussion with him.
01:34But first, let us talk to Raja Mohsen Ejad.
01:37He is a court reporter.
01:38And obviously, today, the Chief Justice met with the IMF delegation.
01:42He spoke to the journalists.
01:43So, what was discussed in that?
01:45What was discussed?
01:46Let us take a little summary from him.
01:48So, Raja Sahib, please tell us,
01:50what was the meeting about?
01:52What was discussed by the Chief Justice?
01:54Look, today, first of all, the IMF delegation came to the Supreme Court of Pakistan.
02:00And the Chief Justice himself briefed on this meeting.
02:04And he briefed in great detail.
02:06Along with that, there was also an announcement.
02:08In the announcement, it was said,
02:10I will tell you shortly,
02:11In the announcement, it was basically said,
02:13that the Chief Justice clearly told them that
02:15the judges in Pakistan are free.
02:18And as the head of the institution,
02:20the Chief Justice of Pakistan told them
02:22that it is their responsibility.
02:24And they fully understand this responsibility.
02:26Along with that, it was also said that
02:28the judicial reforms that are being done,
02:31all stakeholders can give their suggestions.
02:36He also told the IMF delegation that
02:38in the next session of the National Judicial Policymaking,
02:43if you also have any suggestions,
02:45if you also want to give,
02:46then they can also give.
02:48Along with that,
02:49what he said in the meeting with the Press Association of the Supreme Court,
02:53he was told that
02:55the IMF delegation has come.
02:57And the IMF delegation was told that
02:59usually the Supreme Court or judges
03:01do not meet like this.
03:03But he was also told that
03:05after that,
03:07this meeting is being held.
03:09And in this, he told that
03:11the reforms that are being brought
03:13after the arrival of the current Chief Justice
03:15and the reforms that are being brought
03:17after the arrival of the current Chief Justice,
03:19the speeches that have taken place
03:21in the Supreme Court of Pakistan,
03:23in the judges or high courts,
03:25he was briefed on this issue.
03:27And along with that,
03:29he also talked about the letter of Bani PTI.
03:31He also said that
03:33that letter was sent to the Judges Committee.
03:35That is, now that matter has been made judicial.
03:37Now the Judges Committee will investigate it.
03:39How to move forward on this.
03:41This is the Judges Committee.
03:43The Judges Committee of the Judges Committee
03:45which in the Supreme Court of Pakistan
03:47determines the cases for the hearing.
03:49Why was there a mention of 184.3?
03:51Why was there a mention of 184.3?
03:53Look, because this matter
03:55which Bani PTI has written
03:57which Bani PTI has written
03:59or the Chief Justice said in the USP
04:01that send some evidence.
04:03This matter comes under Article 184.3.
04:05This matter comes under Article 184.3.
04:07And the matter related to Article 184.3
04:09can now be seen in the Supreme Court of Pakistan
04:11by the Judges Committee of the Judges Committee.
04:13And the Judges Committee of the Judges Committee
04:15of the Judges Committee
04:17is ready for any further action
04:19or any further action
04:21of the Judges Committee of the Judges Committee.
04:23That's why this matter
04:25has been sent to the Judges Committee.
04:27And along with this,
04:29the letters of the judges
04:31in the Supreme Court of Pakistan
04:33and all these things
04:35were questioned.
04:37And it was also said by the Chief Justice of Pakistan
04:39Prime Minister and Opposition Leader
04:41both were invited to the Supreme Court of Pakistan
04:43and
04:45and
04:47they also said that
04:49because
04:51this is a matter of Bani PTI
04:53they
04:55did not just talk, they
04:57also sent some evidence
04:59so that matter is now with the Indian Committee
05:01Let's see what happens on that matter
05:03Thank you so much for your time Mr. Raja Bajaj
05:05Mr. Barrister, Mr. Senator
05:07Let's start the discussion
05:09This is not
05:11in any norm
05:13We have not seen this before
05:15when IMF is coming
05:17and when you are saying that
05:19they will look into governance and corruption
05:21and trying to micromanage things
05:23which happens if they think
05:25that things are not going well
05:27If we go to the impression
05:29Here we meet the Chief Justice of Pakistan
05:31Mr. Tarar has also
05:33said that there was no pressure
05:35on this matter
05:37What was the reason?
05:39Thank you so much Mr. Ashfaq
05:41First of all
05:43this is not an anomaly
05:45and of course
05:47when you availed
05:49an extended fund facility
05:51you will have to go and see
05:53that the lender
05:55is also very scared
05:57and this is the reason
05:59Will they get it back?
06:01No, they will not get it back
06:03In the last week
06:05you saw that there was
06:07a period in which
06:09all the shares of the agreement
06:11were broken
06:13and the agreement was not
06:15fulfilled
06:17when the IMF agreement
06:19was not fulfilled
06:21Then
06:23we have to see
06:25the CBMs
06:27Here it is important
06:29to say that
06:31EU delegations
06:33European Union
06:35Human Rights delegations
06:37and many other delegations
06:39meet
06:41This rule of law, governance, corruption
06:43and this was not just
06:45a meeting with the Chief Justice
06:47or the people of JCP
06:49They have to meet
06:5119 other government departments
06:53and ministries
06:55They have to see
06:57how the work has been done
06:59and for what purpose
07:01they have been brought here
07:03and whether the work is being done
07:05or not
07:07The last thing I would like to say
07:09is that it should not be
07:11exaggerated
07:13or presented as
07:15a judge's appointment
07:17There is no such thing
07:19What does the IMF have to do with this?
07:21The rule of law is their concern
07:23and governance
07:25rule of law, corruption
07:27and property rights
07:29because
07:31the focus has been on property rights
07:33and all the
07:35protection of foreign investment
07:37in Pakistan
07:39because finally
07:41at some point if there is a dispute
07:43then the dispute goes to the courts
07:45Senators
07:47CBMs
07:49confidence building measures are important
07:51but these assurances
07:53normally
07:55go to the courts
07:57but at the initial level
07:59we see that
08:01the implementation of the IMF
08:03is the responsibility of the government
08:05What is your impression
08:07when you found out about the IMF
08:09and met the Chief Justice?
08:11In the name of Allah
08:13the most Gracious, the most Merciful
08:15See
08:17before today
08:19all the 24
08:21IMF programs
08:23never had this kind of thing
08:25so now the question arises
08:27why now?
08:29a question arises
08:31when we evaluate
08:33why now?
08:35what is the special thing
08:37that has become so controversial
08:39that
08:41someone can go to the courts
08:43and see the situation
08:45so we see two things in that
08:47one
08:49the appointments of the judges
08:51who are very controversial
08:53some are within the justice system
08:55some are outside
08:57and the basic reason for that is
08:59the constitutional amendments
09:01Constitution is a living
09:03I totally agree with
09:05that there should be amendments in the constitution
09:07and there should be changes
09:09and upgrades
09:11but there is a balance created
09:13we call it
09:15the trichotomy of powers
09:17or the segregation of powers
09:19that means
09:21that I will not go to their limits
09:23everyone will work in their own sphere
09:25you will do your work
09:27so the three basic institutions
09:29which we call executive
09:31which is called government
09:33which we call parliament
09:35which is parliaments, upper and lower
09:37and which we call judiciary
09:39in which we do the High Court and Supreme Court
09:41these three are independent
09:43but synchronized to each other
09:45one's work is implementation
09:47one's work is law making
09:49law making within the limits of the boundary
09:51you can make a law
09:53against article 2 and basic fundamental rights
09:55you can't make it
09:57even if you put
09:59article 239 in it
10:01that you don't check it
10:03you don't do it at all
10:05but if in your laws
10:07the amendments you have put
10:09if they are breaching these two things
10:11then it cannot be made
10:13as simple as that
10:15what it has to do with the
10:17IMF delegation
10:19the way I understand it
10:21their job is to give you money
10:23then make sure
10:25that the money is being spent in the right place
10:27and after that for its return
10:29the arrangements are being done properly
10:31this is what happens normally
10:33what is their connection with this?
10:35when you take a big loan from a bank
10:37that bank makes an agreement with you
10:39they say
10:41you have to do this and that
10:43all these things are according to the law
10:45now I will come and see
10:47they have made so many changes in the law
10:49what changes have they made?
10:51the appointment of the judges
10:53it is totally influenced by the executive
10:57now the executive
10:59can take any decision
11:01and the law can endorse it
11:05but it was done by the constitutional amendment
11:07which has two third majorities
11:09see, it's not about that
11:11this is exactly what it is
11:13this fine balance
11:15in my opinion
11:17they have to look at it
11:19but
11:21I understand
11:23that they must have also seen
11:25that there are so many big advertisements
11:27going on
11:29why is money being spent unnecessarily?
11:33they must be doing other things
11:35they must be doing other things
11:37all these things are in their place
11:39in the last 7 months
11:41you haven't touched a single GDP
11:43you haven't shown a single GDP growth
11:45in the last 7 months
11:47in the last 7 months
11:49the initial thing this year
11:51was that we will touch
11:533.5 GDP
11:55you haven't touched
11:57a single GDP in the last 7 months
11:59what will happen next?
12:01I give this credit
12:03I accept that
12:05the inflation rate in December
12:07came in a single digit
12:09came in a single digit in November
12:11that is also a sign of an increase in inflation
12:13what is the speed of inflation?
12:15the speed of inflation has decreased
12:17inflation has not decreased
12:19but when you look at
12:21the whole year
12:23in that year
12:25it is still more expensive than the PTI
12:27Mr. Barrister has said something
12:29he said
12:31he mentioned 10 rupees
12:33on petrol
12:35the PTI
12:37the PTI
12:39the PTI
12:41the PTI
12:43the PTI of Pakistan
12:45has done a wrong thing
12:47now when the PTI
12:49has done a wrong thing
12:51who will correct that wrong thing?
12:53the PTI
12:55if you were so educated
12:57if you were so conscious
12:59the day you came
13:01you should have reversed it
13:036.2 GDP
13:05minus 1.8 GDP
13:07minus 1.8 GDP
13:09you didn't understand
13:11do you understand
13:13the level of intellectual
13:15level of the government
13:17they didn't understand
13:19hold on
13:21he says that
13:23it is better than before
13:25175 rupees is better
13:27or 290 rupees or 280 rupees
13:29is better
13:31or 60 rupees is better
13:33hold on
13:35in this way
13:37my question was
13:39IMF what it has to do with
13:41the government or judiciary
13:43they could have been concerned
13:45with property rights
13:47but what is their concern
13:49this discussion
13:51you remember and I remember
13:53we were sitting and talking
13:55Sheikh Rashid was talking
13:57I told the Prime Minister
13:59after 3.5 years
14:01that people are worried
14:03about inflation
14:05and unemployment
14:07we used to raise this question
14:09that GDP
14:11is doing well
14:13but if the capital is doing well
14:15are people doing well or not
14:17let's do one thing
14:19you people
14:21are bigger mirror
14:23than us
14:25you are the biggest mirror
14:27she says that
14:29what happened in this one year
14:31the people say that
14:33it has been ruined
14:35the general consensus
14:37of the people
14:39was that Pakistan was better
14:41in terms of justice
14:43large scale industry
14:45hold on
14:47let me tell you
14:49large scale industry
14:51last point
14:53large scale industry is a true reflection
14:55of the economy
14:57large scale industry
14:59circulates money
15:01now large scale industry
15:03is going in negative
15:05in our time it was
15:07growing at 11% or 12%
15:09it's a huge difference
15:11you go to Faisalabad
15:13there were many start ups
15:15that couldn't work
15:17the only saving grace
15:19was Covid-19
15:21at that time the world was closed
15:23other than that
15:25economic front
15:27financial front
15:29diplomatic front
15:31any success story you can tell me
15:33that it was a huge success
15:35or investment
15:37or financial gain
15:39tell me one thing
15:41like today's meeting
15:43or the questions
15:45for example the question
15:47about the letter
15:49you gave a statement
15:51that the letter is being written
15:53now the matter
15:55has gone to Ayni Bench
15:57why is this
15:59letter situation
16:01getting worse
16:03I think
16:05our tall claims
16:07that we are talking
16:09we are talking to them
16:11about politics
16:13our matters are getting settled
16:15those were all false claims
16:17the real claims were
16:19when the news broke
16:21that Barrister Gauhar met
16:23the PTI chairman
16:25he said he didn't meet him
16:27then he was asked again
16:29he said yes
16:31then he said
16:33the meeting was about politics
16:35then he backtracked
16:37he said no politics was not discussed
16:39then he backed off
16:41from his own statement
16:43none of us
16:45told him not to back off
16:47he backed off
16:49then the PTI chairman
16:51asked him to engage
16:53now if the PTI chairman
16:55asked him to engage
16:57he has been wanting to engage
16:59those who don't want to engage
17:01those who don't have a role
17:03in this matter
17:05and he said
17:07don't talk to us
17:09there are political issues
17:11you should discuss them
17:13with political parties
17:15the world has progressed a lot
17:17but we see that
17:19the senior judges of the Supreme Court
17:21write letters
17:23then Shibli Faraz writes letters
17:25then Bani PTI
17:27I was saying this today
17:29outside the parliament
17:31that the letter writing
17:33should stop
17:35people should focus on their work
17:37I would like to say
17:39that the honourable judges
17:41should write decisions
17:43instead of writing letters
17:45and they should focus on
17:47providing relief to the people
17:49and deciding the cases of the people
17:51which is their primary job
17:53but they can express their opinion
17:55we are not saying
17:57that they should not express their opinion
17:59they should definitely do that
18:01but I think there are some forums
18:03where the person who gets the letter
18:05gets it later but it comes to the media
18:07this practice is wrong
18:09and I'll call what's wrong
18:11what's wrong is wrong
18:13if they want to write
18:15the head of an institution
18:17they should write
18:19and I'm not talking about Bani PTI
18:21I'm talking about the judges
18:23if they want to write their chief
18:25they should definitely write
18:27or if they want to write
18:29the Chief Justice of Pakistan
18:31they should definitely write
18:33but bringing that letter
18:35to the media
18:37or bringing it here
18:39or bringing it here
18:41or doing some numbering
18:43no, sir, I was saying
18:45why this letter
18:47and what impact
18:49it's having
18:51first of all
18:53educated people
18:55who read and write letters
18:57cannot write the open letter
18:59they write the open letter
19:01everyone in the world
19:03knows about the open letter
19:05but the thing is
19:07letter, it basically goes to the media.
19:09That's the purpose.
19:11That's the purpose.
19:13Everyone should know.
19:15Imran Khan doesn't say it like that.
19:17So the meaning of open letter is
19:19it is open to everyone.
19:21So that you also know
19:23what I am talking to Barrister sir.
19:25I am not talking secretly.
19:27What I am asking from Barrister sir.
19:29This is the basic purpose of an open letter.
19:31In an open letter, you shift the policy.
19:33You shift your policy.
19:35Why do you shift the policy?
19:37You get 6 points.
19:39What is the basic point?
19:41He didn't say why did you remove me.
19:43He said in Pakistan.
19:45He said bring me again.
19:47He said in Pakistan.
19:49How did he say?
19:51Imran Khan will come if you do free,
19:53fair and transparent election in Pakistan.
19:55This is not what you are saying.
19:57This is not the way of communication.
19:59This is what the Governor of Punjab is also saying.
20:01Now a little thing.
20:03You were absolutely right.
20:05What difference does 6 GDP make?
20:07It makes a difference.
20:09When we talk about tax to GDP ratio.
20:11In our time it was 9.2.
20:13In their time it is 8.7.
20:15When we talk about exports.
20:17In our time it is 31 billion.
20:19In their time it is 27 billion.
20:21When we talk about petroleum price.
20:23It makes a big difference.
20:25144 and 272.
20:27When we talk about investment to GDP.
20:2915.6 and 13.1 percent.
20:31When we talk about unemployment.
20:33In our time it was 5.4 percent.
20:35Do you know what is the number today?
20:379.5 percent.
20:39And how much is the population?
20:41You think it doesn't make a difference?
20:43Yes.
20:45No.
20:47What else will you do?
20:49You have done comparative analysis of the whole world.
20:51Doctor, tell me about 1 crore jobs.
20:53Sir, I will tell you about 1 crore jobs.
20:55You have done comparative analysis of the whole world.
20:57Sir, I will tell you about 1 crore jobs.
20:59Sir, I will tell you about 1 crore jobs.
21:01Sir, if you...
21:03Sir, if you ask him questions.
21:05Sir, I will tell you...
21:07Sir, 1 crore jobs were in 5 years.
21:09Sir, if you ask him questions.
21:11In 3.5 years I will tell you that
21:13There were 7.5 million jobs.
21:15In 3.5 years there were 7.5 million jobs.
21:17And I will tell you what places
21:19there were jobs, etc.
21:21Sir, I will tell you about the jobs training camp.
21:23Please tell us about it.
21:25Basically what Barrister Gohar Sb. said
21:27So let's listen to what Barrister Gauhar has to say so that we don't go off the topic.
21:32Let's listen to it.
21:33Pakistan Tariq Insaad is the head of Pakistan's biggest political party.
21:38If there is a letter from him, it should be taken into consideration.
21:42And it should be taken into consideration.
21:44I would say that you should read it carefully after listening to Yusuf's voice.
21:47We are not asking Mr. Khan to say this.
21:49If we had to ask him to say this, he would have spent 1.5-2 years in jails.
21:52He would have been in baseless cases.
21:53It's not about the deal.
21:55Let's listen to Yusuf's voice and read it carefully.
21:59What should be read and what should not be read.
22:01We will discuss this further.
22:02Let's take a break.
22:03We will be back after the break.
22:04We are back after the break.
22:06All of you are doing well.
22:08Mr. Barrister, Mr. Gauhar is saying that it should be taken into consideration.
22:13The letter should be read.
22:15There will be a lot of contradictions in this.
22:18Obviously, there will be excuses as well.
22:19Mr. Senator, the letters are correct.
22:21They are written by educated people.
22:23Obviously, there are a lot of contradictions in this.
22:26But does it mean that there is no other contact?
22:29What is wrong in that?
22:30Let me give you an example.
22:31The 6 points that are discussed, the same thing is repeated again and again.
22:35It is said that the 26th Ayni Tirmidhi, according to him, or the chairman of the party,
22:39is wrong.
22:40It is a two-thirds majority.
22:42This is what the parliament has passed.
22:44They did not sit in that.
22:46They did not present their counter-amendments in that matter.
22:50But the people with whom we are talking today, Mr. Maulana, they played a very important role.
22:55Mr. Maulana presented his amendments in that regard.
22:59He understood that there should be improvement in that.
23:03We obviously took him on board.
23:05We took him on board.
23:07We went with him.
23:08We inculcated his suggestions in the final draft.
23:11And we can see his reflection in that.
23:13The second point is that the Peeka Act is wrong.
23:16Now, all the journalists are in agreement on this.
23:19And today, the same thing was revealed in the court as well.
23:21Because there is a challenge and there is a subjudice as well.
23:23So, I will not comment on that so much.
23:26But I will definitely say that the judge asked a question that
23:29all of you say that the fake news should end.
23:32All the journalistic bodies, all the journalists present in the court,
23:37they said that the fake news should end.
23:40On which Tony Jalil said that you should cooperate with the court
23:43and tell us what the matter is and what it is not.
23:46The third thing, they say that they have made false cases on me.
23:50How are those false cases?
23:52The case of £190 million has been punished.
23:55The other cases like Toshakhana 1 and 2 have been punished.
23:59The court also provided relief.
24:01And now they say that the same courts will provide relief
24:04and the same judges will provide relief.
24:06So, we are telling Rosy Awal that these are the courts and these are the judges.
24:09You have to get relief from here.
24:11You have to prove your case and its points.
24:14Don't expect NRO from us.
24:16Don't ask NRO from us or from anyone else.
24:20As of now, what is the status of the negotiations or from your side?
24:25Because Mr. Shahbaz Sharif has asked to form a committee again.
24:28I am telling you that in the National Assembly,
24:31the Speaker as Custodian of the House,
24:33he did not analyze both the committees of the government and the opposition.
24:37He did not take much time and analyzed the committee.
24:403-4 days ago, he said about the negotiations that we will not go.
24:44I also said that if he had come,
24:46then maybe a better situation could have come out.
24:49But he was saying earlier that he will not form a commission.
24:52I have said this so many times and the spokespersons of the other committees,
24:57Irfan Siddiqui, said that their job was to convince us.
25:01Why are you asking the Judicial Commission for incidents?
25:05So, if they were convinced,
25:07by majority committee members,
25:09in which all the united parties were present,
25:11if they had been convinced, then it would have been done.
25:13There was no doubt in that.
25:15This status of negotiations,
25:18now it is clear that at the end of January,
25:21there was a wait for a phone call and a fear of a phone call.
25:25Because of this, we saw a time frame that you gave it quickly.
25:29Now, what is the status?
25:31Because the country has to move forward,
25:33it is necessary to have a dialogue.
25:35Now, the work will not be done by letters.
25:37The country that works, it works under the law.
25:40When you tell me that these are your rights,
25:43you can do this, you can do that,
25:45I will do it in that way.
25:47The problem is that the Chief Justice says that
25:50they have not corrected the election,
25:53correct the mark.
25:55The next person, on the basis of that,
25:57destroys the existence of my existence.
26:01He declares all my members independent.
26:04So, does it mean?
26:07Look, listen to me.
26:09Now, what is after that?
26:11I say, I have a right.
26:13Now, the judiciary says that
26:15they really should not have been independent.
26:18They should have been a political party.
26:20No doubt, give them some other mark.
26:22Let's assume they have taken the mark.
26:24They have not finished our identity.
26:26What is the status now?
26:28As of today, they have no other option
26:30and they have no other choice
26:32than to actually come and speak to political parties.
26:34They should come and sit with political parties,
26:36talk to them.
26:38They should come and sit with political parties.
26:40They should come and sit with political parties.
26:42They should come and sit with political parties.
26:44They should come and sit with political parties.
26:46They should come and sit with political parties.
26:48They should come and sit with political parties.
26:50They should come and sit with political parties.
26:52They should come and sit with political parties.
26:54They should come and sit with political parties.
26:56They should come and sit with political parties.
26:58They should come and sit with political parties.
27:00They should come and sit with political parties.
27:02They should come and sit with political parties.
27:04They should come and sit with political parties.
27:06They should come and sit with political parties.
27:08They should come and sit with political parties.
27:10They should come and sit with political parties.
27:12They should come and sit with political parties.
27:14They should come and sit with political parties.
27:16They should come and sit with political parties.
27:18They should come and sit with political parties.
27:20They should come and sit with political parties.
27:22They should come and sit with political parties.
27:24They should come and sit with political parties.
27:26They should come and sit with political parties.
27:28They should come and sit with political parties.
27:30They should come and sit with political parties.
27:32They should come and sit with political parties.
27:34They should come and sit with political parties.
27:36They should come and sit with political parties.
27:38They should come and sit with political parties.
27:40They should come and sit with political parties.
27:42They should come and sit with political parties.
27:44They should come and sit with political parties.
27:46They should come and sit with political parties.
27:48They should come and sit with political parties.
27:50They should come and sit with political parties.
27:52They should come and sit with political parties.
27:54They should come and sit with political parties.
27:56They should come and sit with political parties.
27:58They should come and sit with political parties.
28:00They should come and sit with political parties.
28:02They should come and sit with political parties.
28:04They should come and sit with political parties.
28:06They should come and sit with political parties.
28:08They should come and sit with political parties.
28:10They should come and sit with political parties.
28:12They should come and sit with political parties.
28:14They should come and sit with political parties.
28:16They should come and sit with political parties.
28:18They should come and sit with political parties.
28:20They should come and sit with political parties.
28:22They should come and sit with political parties.
28:24They should come and sit with political parties.
28:26They should come and sit with political parties.
28:28They should come and sit with political parties.
28:30They should come and sit with political parties.
28:32They should come and sit with political parties.
28:34They should come and sit with political parties.
28:36They should come and sit with political parties.
28:38They should come and sit with political parties.
28:40They should come and sit with political parties.
28:42They should come and sit with political parties.
28:44They should come and sit with political parties.
28:46They should come and sit with political parties.
28:48They should come and sit with political parties.
28:50They should come and sit with political parties.
28:52They should come and sit with political parties.
28:54They should come and sit with political parties.
28:56They should come and sit with political parties.
28:58We will conclude the program after the break.
29:00We will conclude the program after the break.
29:02Welcome back.
29:04We request that the issues should be resolved through negotiations.
29:06Especially those issues which cannot be resolved on the streets.
29:08Especially those issues which cannot be resolved on the streets.
29:10When you have used all your options.
29:12When you have thrown all the leaves of the soil.
29:14And if there is no result of that.
29:16Then for the survival of the country.
29:18For your survival.
29:20Especially for the future of the country.
29:22Because when all the political parties will come together.
29:24Then they will be able to think about Pakistan.
29:26As per the situation and the economy.
29:28The enemies are very perceptive.
29:30The enemies are very perceptive.
29:32The enemies are very perceptive.
29:34They are also very perceptive internally.
29:36If we want to defeat them.
29:38Then we will have to sit together.
29:40The negotiations can be started from a table.
29:42With Ashfaq and Satti.
29:44Allah Hafiz.
29:46Allah Hafiz.