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00:00And when the negotiations do begin for real, your understanding is that Ukraine will most
00:05certainly be involved.
00:07Well, that's what some members of the Trump administration claimed yesterday.
00:11I think there's disarray now in the Trump foreign policy apparatus because so many of
00:17the senior positions are unfilled.
00:19The National Security Council staff, where I worked for four years under President George
00:23W. Bush, it is the place where ideas are vented, are then compared with the president's
00:34overall agenda.
00:35And it's the National Security Council staff that has to make sure each agency that has
00:39an interest in any issue gets a fair hearing.
00:42And the National Security Council staff right now is terribly understaffed.
00:46So those sorts of debates, policy debates between and among the various elements of
00:51U.S. government are not happening.
00:53So we're getting disarray in many cases.