サバンナ高橋の、サウナの神さま 2025年3月15日 第78回 ととのいゲスト：玉井詩織（ももいろクローバーZ）
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00:00Sauna is a place to purify your mind and body.
00:07This program invites top runners from all over the world to the sauna
00:12and listens to their stories in a well-organized place.
00:18We approach the turning point of the guest's life at the right moment.
00:24The hint to make you happy may be in the sauna.
00:29We invite you to the sauna of Savannah Takahashi,
00:36the god of saunas.
00:48I don't have time to go to the bathroom.
00:50I'm sweating.
00:52Sweating?
00:55Let's introduce our guests.
00:57This is Tama Ishiori from Momoiro Clover Z.
01:00Nice to meet you.
01:02Nice to meet you, too.
01:03By the way, have you ever been to a sauna on TV?
01:07No, I haven't.
01:08I was taken by the word sauna.
01:10Do you like saunas?
01:12I like saunas.
01:13Do you go often?
01:14If I can, I'd like to go once a week,
01:16but I actually go once or twice a month.
01:18Once or twice a month?
01:19I go once or twice a month.
01:21By the way, this is a very popular sauna.
01:25Do you usually go to the sauna?
01:27If I have a problem, I go in a row.
01:29I see.
01:31I go to the sauna as I like.
01:34I'm glad to hear that.
01:36Tama Ishiori from Momoiro Clover Z is going to the sauna this time.
01:44He was scouted in 2005 when he was in the 4th grade of elementary school.
01:50In 2008, he formed Momoiro Clover.
01:53While he was active as a member of Momoiro Clover,
01:57he became a national idol.
02:04He won the first place on the Oricon chart with his major debut single,
02:09Let's Go! Gaito Shoujo.
02:11His overwhelming live performance
02:13not only inspired fans,
02:15but also sparked the Momokuro boom.
02:18In 2012, he won the first place on the Oricon chart
02:22and became a member of Momoiro Clover.
02:25He became a member of Momoiro Clover.
02:30Since last year, he has been active as a solo artist.
02:34Now, he has a solo performance at the Nippon Budokan.
02:38His momentum is accelerating.
02:42I don't usually go to the sauna
02:46when I'm being watched.
02:49This is my first time going to the sauna
02:52when I feel like I'm being watched.
02:54So, I'm a little nervous.
02:56I don't think you can talk about your career as an idol.
03:04I'd like to ask people
03:07if there was a wall between us.
03:10I'd like to ask people if there was a wall between us.
03:13It's not about which guest I like or which guest I don't like,
03:18but I'm happy this week.
03:23Finland is a country of happiness
03:25that has been selected as the number one country for 7 consecutive years
03:28in the World Happiness Ranking.
03:30There is a saying in the sauna
03:33that was registered in the UNESCO World Heritage Site.
03:39Important things are decided in the sauna, not in the conference room.
03:45Finnish people solve various problems
03:49in a comfortable atmosphere,
03:52such as private life and work.
03:55In the sauna,
03:57there may be a god who leads people to happiness.
04:03Let's eat.
04:10It's good.
04:11It's good.
04:12It's good.
04:15It's pretty hot.
04:16It's really hot.
04:17It's really hot.
04:22It's been a while.
04:23It's good.
04:24I like winter saunas.
04:25It's good.
04:27Do you do anything for your health?
04:30I often go to the sauna.
04:34I also like hot spring baths.
04:37I also like baths.
04:39I like to sweat.
04:41I also like healthy food.
04:46I like vegetables.
04:47I like mushroom hot pot.
04:48Mushroom hot pot?
04:49It makes my intestines beautiful.
04:51Do you share such information with other members?
04:54The leader, Kanako Momota, is also a healthy otaku.
04:57She teaches me healthy supplements and tea.
05:03What kind of leader is Momokuro?
05:08Is she a real leader?
05:10Well...
05:12Is she a real leader?
05:13Is she a real leader?
05:15Basically, the leader doesn't give advice to the members.
05:24However, the leader has to say goodbye to the members.
05:28I see.
05:29Basically, Kanako is a little stupid.
05:33She is a little stupid.
05:34So, I often wonder if she is okay.
05:37However, when she says goodbye to the members, I wonder where she learned such words.
05:42Do you think she is stupid?
05:43I think she is stupid.
05:45You were a hot-tempered member of the group, right?
05:47Yes, I was.
05:48Was my hot-temperedness okay?
05:49It was very good.
05:50Really?
05:51Let's do it.
05:52Will you do it?
05:53Yes, I will.
05:54I did it.
05:55Can I do it?
05:56I'm glad that you are used to being hot-tempered.
06:02Do you remember?
06:04Excuse me.
06:09It's a very good wind.
06:10How is it?
06:14Oh!
06:19From now on, the two of them will sweat to their heart's content.
06:25It's a special space unique to the sauna.
06:29The distance between the two will be shortened.
06:32I wonder what they are talking about.
06:44Oh!
06:45Wow!
06:46It's hot!
06:47You are strong.
06:50Is it hot?
06:51Thank you very much.
06:54It's been a while.
06:55Oh, it's hot.
06:57It's hot, isn't it?
06:58It's hot.
07:06It's cold!
07:13It feels good.
07:16It feels good.
07:18What moment do you like about the sauna?
07:20I like the moment when I take a bath.
07:40It's the best.
07:43It's the best.
07:47Let's drink some water.
07:48Yes.
07:49I was thirsty.
07:50After sauna routine, let's drink some water.
07:53This is a natural mineral water that is not used in Kirishima Renzan in Miyazaki Prefecture.
08:00I'm glad.
08:01It's good for cooking rice and cooking.
08:09It's good.
08:11It's good.
08:12It's cold.
08:15It's the best.
08:17I feel like I can't stand up.
08:19I know.
08:20When I usually appear on TV, I try not to use my back.
08:24I can't do it today.
08:25I can't do it today.
08:26I can't do it today.
08:28I'm going to talk later, but I don't have a back.
08:34Now, now.
08:35I can do it now.
08:36I can do it now.
08:38After warming up, she has a talk with her true feelings.
08:43The moment she warmed up in Tamaishiori's life.
08:47We will ask her about the turning point of her life.
08:51I can tell when I see Momokuro.
08:53Momokuro is the best.
08:55Momokuro is the best.
08:56I'm getting closer.
08:57I'm getting closer.
08:58I'm getting closer.
08:59I feel like it's my turn.
09:01I feel like it's my turn.
09:04Now that you've warmed up,
09:06let's talk about five things you're interested in about Tamaishiori.
09:10Now, let's talk about five things you're interested in about Tamaishiori.
09:15We'll dig deeper later.
09:17First, what made you angry recently?
09:21Too many things.
09:24Second, what is important to an idol?
09:27Greeting.
09:29Third, how do you spend your days off?
09:32Drive.
09:35Fourth, what is your favorite thing you bought recently?
09:38Guitar.
09:40Fifth, what is the most memorable song in Momokuro?
09:45Hakkin no Yoake.
09:49First, what made you angry recently?
09:52Too many things.
09:55At home?
09:56At home.
09:57I love clothes.
09:58Clothes, cosmetics, body cream.
10:05If I don't have them, I have three things I use.
10:11I see.
10:12Insurance.
10:13Insurance.
10:14But it's hard to drive alone.
10:18It's hard.
10:20Second, what is important to an idol?
10:22Greeting.
10:23Of course, it's important to greet each other.
10:31But it's also important to greet each other politely.
10:39Did you greet each other politely in the beginning?
10:45Yes, I did.
10:46When Momokuro was there, I could tell right away.
10:48Momokuro, Momokuro, Momokuro, Momokuro.
10:52It was getting closer and closer.
10:53It was like, it's my turn.
10:56Do you still do that?
10:57It's usually measured by the leader's sense of temperature.
11:00The line of the leader is, we are idols now.
11:04If the leader says that, we will inevitably...
11:06Start.
11:09We will do it now.
11:11On the other hand, if the leader says, I'm sorry.
11:16Have you ever thought that you didn't have to do it today?
11:20No, it's not that I didn't have to do it.
11:23Yesterday, when the sponsor came,
11:31the leader said, it's us.
11:33I thought, that's great.
11:35I have to do it properly to the sponsor.
11:38It's important to greet each other politely.
11:41Yes, it's important.
11:42If you are an actress, you often get to see the idol's work.
11:47So you don't know much about the idol's personality.
11:52But I can see everything about an idol.
11:58So I can see all the embarrassing behaviors of an idol.
12:05I think it's important to feel like you are being watched by someone.
12:09Third, how do you spend your days off?
12:12Drive.
12:13Do you drive yourself?
12:14Yes, I do.
12:15I also go out with my friends.
12:17Basically, I'm an active type.
12:19For example, when I have a day off, I go to pick strawberries.
12:23Cute.
12:24You are an idol.
12:26I'm an idol who picks strawberries.
12:28Or I go to a hot spring and come back.
12:32Recently, I've been watching Indian anime every year.
12:35On that day, I decide to stay at home.
12:40By the way, what do you do when you have a day off?
12:43When I'm at home, I sleep as much as I can.
12:49But I wake up around noon.
12:51If there is an anime or drama that I'm addicted to, I watch it all day.
12:57I also love Attack on Titan.
12:59I've been watching it for about four weeks.
13:03You are the type of person who can watch what you like as many times as you want.
13:06Yes, I am.
13:07I'm the type of person who has a deep love for it.
13:09No matter how many times I watch it, I'm like,
13:11Wow, this scene is really good.
13:15Fourth, what is your favorite thing you bought recently?
13:19Guitar.
13:20I've been doing a music show with Mr. Sakazaki of GRFEE for a long time.
13:25I started playing the guitar because of that music show.
13:28For me, Mr. Sakazaki is the teacher of guitar.
13:31You have a great teacher.
13:33I was talking about wanting a guitar that would be my icon.
13:38He said, let's go see it next holiday.
13:41Did you go to buy a guitar with Mr. Sakazaki?
13:43Yes, I did.
13:45I found two guitars of my favorite design.
13:50I was like, which one should I choose?
13:52But I couldn't choose one.
13:56Mr. Sakazaki said, why don't you buy two?
14:00It was a big purchase, so I was worried.
14:03But recently, I've been doing music activities solo.
14:06I have a chance to play.
14:08So I bought a guitar and decided to work hard on it.
14:15So I bought two guitars.
14:18I bought two guitars called Martin and Collings.
14:25Do you actually practice?
14:27Yes, I play on the show every month.
14:30I also play solo live.
14:33Is this solo live at the Budokan?
14:35That's right.
14:36I haven't decided if I'll play the guitar at the Budokan this time.
14:39Play it.
14:41That's right.
14:43Maybe you can play it.
14:45Maybe.
14:46Maybe Mr. Sakazaki will come.
14:48Mr. Sakazaki said he would come as a guest.
14:51By the way, what were you like when you were a kid?
14:56I was active.
14:57I have a third brother.
15:00I often hang out with my brother's friends.
15:04I often hang out with boys in my class.
15:08I don't spend my free time in the classroom.
15:10I'm definitely the type of person who plays in the court.
15:13Did you like singing when you were a kid?
15:15I was really bad at singing.
15:18When I sang at home, my father told me to stop singing because I was really bad at singing.
15:23Did he tell you to stop singing?
15:25How did you get into the entertainment industry?
15:28A friend of the president of the agency told me that he was not interested in the entertainment industry.
15:38How old were you?
15:39I was in the fourth grade of elementary school.
15:41You were pretty cute when you were in the fourth grade of elementary school.
15:46I was originally a curious person.
15:50When I was told to try it, I thought it would be fun, so I decided to try it.
15:55When I first joined the agency, I didn't have a job, so I took dance lessons and acting lessons.
16:00It was an extension of what I had learned.
16:02Why did you become Momokuro?
16:04Why is that?
16:06When I joined the agency, I had a profile.
16:09I wrote my hobbies and specialties there.
16:13I didn't write my hobbies and specialties.
16:15I wrote dance as a hobby.
16:18I was in junior high school at that time.
16:20At that time, there was only about a year left until I signed a contract with the agency.
16:25At the end, there was a profile in the company.
16:28Didn't anyone give you a profile?
16:30It was like my last chance.
16:32At that time, there was a talk about creating a girl's singing and dancing group at the agency.
16:38At that time, I was picked up by the leader.
16:42If there was no dance written on the profile, I wouldn't be here now.
16:47There were many people who wanted to be an actress.
16:50Even if you want to be an actress, you have to get used to being in front of people.
16:55At first, it was a group that was created to get used to being in front of people at street concerts.
17:01What made you change your mind?
17:05When we were five, we decided to go on a nationwide tour.
17:09We went on a tour in a wagon.
17:12Is that what a band member does?
17:15We decided to go on a nationwide tour because we were going to release our first indie album.
17:20When I heard about our debut, I thought we were going to make our debut as idols.
17:25Did you think so?
17:27When I was on a tour in a wagon, I went around Yamada Electric all over Japan.
17:32I got help from Yamada Electric.
17:35I danced at Yamada Electric's parking lot and Yamada Electric's corner.
17:39At that time, there were six people.
17:42There were times when there were fewer people than the number of members.
17:46We made our major debut with a song called Kaito Shoujo.
17:50But it sold out all of a sudden.
17:53Thankfully, I got to know a lot of people.
17:57Did you feel busy all of a sudden?
17:59I was busy because I was in Yamada Electric.
18:03I went to school on weekdays.
18:05I went to school and took lessons.
18:09Was there anything difficult?
18:12At that time, we mainly performed live.
18:16We performed six times a day.
18:19It was about an hour between each performance.
18:22I had to fill my stomach during that time.
18:26I said, I don't have time.
18:28I said, I want to go to the bathroom.
18:30I was told, you don't have time to go to the bathroom.
18:33I was told, sweat it out.
18:36Sweat it out?
18:38I've never heard such a powerful word.
18:40Sweat it out?
18:42I don't think it's possible now.
18:44What was your position in the group at that time?
18:48My catchphrase was a crybaby.
18:52I was everyone's little sister.
18:54I was the youngest when I was formed.
18:56I was a little sister who was loved by everyone.
19:01I'm not good at expressing myself.
19:05Among the members, I was called a super sub.
19:10I'm better at making people stand up.
19:14I was in my puberty.
19:16I thought I didn't want to do this.
19:21You can't just be spoiled.
19:24I know that.
19:26I don't know what to do.
19:29Tamai was struggling to change himself.
19:35However,
19:37He made up his mind to lead the team because of the decision of some members.
19:47At that time, there were six members.
19:50One of the members had to leave the group.
19:54Her name is Akari Hayami.
19:56Her hair was a short cut.
19:59I wanted to cut my hair.
20:03Then Akari said,
20:05I'll cut it in a little while.
20:07She said something meaningful.
20:09There was something like that.
20:13At that time, I didn't know Akari was going to quit.
20:16I was wondering what was going on.
20:18After that, I announced to everyone that Akari would quit.
20:21I was naked.
20:23I was a sub-leader.
20:25I was always in charge of the group.
20:31I was worried about the future of the group.
20:34Everyone was worried about me.
20:37At that time, I realized that I had to do my best.
20:42After five members, I changed my name to Momoiro Clover Z.
20:46I cut my hair short and appeared.
20:50I think that's the turning point of my life.
20:55Until now, I thought it was fun to be an extension of what I learned.
21:00But I realized that being an idol is a job.
21:05I thought it was important to try it.
21:08I thought I couldn't do it myself.
21:10I suppressed myself.
21:13I changed my mind to think about it when I failed.
21:19I think it's important to challenge yourself.
21:23I have a word that I cherish.
21:26I can't change the past, but I can change myself and the future.
21:31Rather than worrying about the future that hasn't happened yet,
21:35I can change the future from now on.
21:38I can change myself.
21:41I think it's important to take action for that.
21:46Momokuro's 5th song.
21:52The last song is Momokuro's 5th song.
21:55What kind of song do you remember?
21:59When I was working on this album,
22:02I got a call from Kouhaku Utagassen, who had been on the show for three consecutive years.
22:08I heard the news.
22:10I knew the day would come when I couldn't be on the show.
22:14When I actually came, I was very shocked.
22:17When I got this song for the recording of this album,
22:21It's a song that links me and my feelings.
22:26At the beginning, my heart...
22:29My heart is now...
22:32I forgot the lyrics.
22:35I haven't been singing lately.
22:38I'm sorry.
22:39It's a song that starts from the bottom.
22:42My heart is now at the bottom.
22:45It's a daily life that doesn't change for the people around me.
22:49For everyone,
22:52It's a day that doesn't change even if we're in shock.
22:56On the day of the recording, I looked at the members.
23:00I didn't dare to say it, but I remember crying quietly.
23:07It's a song that resonates with those who are in shock.
23:12I hope you'll listen to it.
23:14But it's not always at the bottom.
23:16Little by little, I'll open the world.
23:20What about the lyrics?
23:22I forgot the lyrics.
23:25After this, Shiori Tamai's story.
23:31I want to see the sinking line.
23:33There is no sinking line.
23:38We've heard a lot of things.
23:40Lastly, is there anything you haven't prepared?
23:43I haven't prepared anything.
23:45I want to jump into the overseas sea.
23:54This is about scuba diving.
23:58You don't want to go overseas, do you?
24:01I hope I can do that.
24:04Two years ago, I got a scuba diving license.
24:08After I got it, I couldn't dive at all.
24:11Is there a country you want to go to?
24:14I want to dive in the Caribbean.
24:17I want to see the sinking line.
24:19I don't think I can dive to the sinking line.
24:22Even if I go scuba diving, it's about 15 to 20 meters.
24:27There is no sinking line at 15 meters.
24:31I think it's more deep.
24:34I think it's about 2 meters.
24:53Next time, Rapper Ryofu Karma.
24:56I wanted to be a manga artist.
24:59I'm the god of sauna.
25:01You're really good at it.