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00:00In February 2022, when that full-blown Russian invasion of Ukraine began,
00:05did you feel like there was a sense of inevitability about the whole thing?
00:10Well, I think that we failed to realize or to understand what Russia was doing.
00:20Their invasion of Ukraine in 2014 came on the heels of our failure to respond
00:26to their invasion of Georgia in 2008, or they're jumping over President Obama's red line in Syria.
00:34So that invasion was just like the next step for the Russians.
00:41And then, of course, we failed to really do anything significant after they invaded in 2014.
00:48But I think anybody that watches Russia, has watched Russia and looks at their history,
00:53would recognize that they would not ever be satisfied with just getting Crimea, for example.