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00:00Well, actually, the Russians seem to think NATO membership is a really important issue.
00:04We heard the Kremlin spokesperson, Dmitry Peskov, saying Ukrainian NATO membership is one of the root causes of the conflict in Ukraine.
00:13I don't know what you think of that.
00:15This is something which is, we say it all the time, you know, it is something that the Russian propaganda says.
00:24But in fact, I mean, again, if you look at hard facts, there is no reason to think that the aggression of Russia to Ukraine was because NATO was going to take over Ukraine.
00:42It is a fake news, simply.
00:44It doesn't make sense.
00:46If you want to look very carefully in the history of Ukrainian relations with NATO, since the independence of Ukraine, you may have one case.
00:57It is the Bucharest summit of NATO in May or June 2008, where President Bush, in fact, put on the table the question of Ukrainian and Georgian also accession to NATO.
01:12And there is a sentence in the final communique saying that one day Ukraine and Georgia will join NATO.
01:21But there was no date, no common decision on when it should happen, and it has never been repeated again.