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00:00:00it is draft day in the national football league the 2025 nfl draft begins tonight
00:00:05in green bay wisconsin opening night opening round and we will get you set with everything
00:00:12you need to know live right here on this thursday on the early line we'll show you where the markets
00:00:18have moved we will talk about if the odds are solidifying the picture for tonight's round
00:00:23number one all the trends you must know and of course winning wagers where value might still be
00:00:30available in those draft markets on the fan duel sportsbook drs draft day has come here in 2025
00:00:37it has i gotta tell like everybody has memories of like their draft night which i had early spring
00:00:422000 family was gathered around we were watching the draft and the phone never rang for me man
00:00:47it just didn't ring so i realized at that moment my football career was officially over but so many
00:00:52players tonight will not have that memory that phone will ring they'll be off to a new city
00:00:57millionaires minted and made and it's a big night and also the bad football teams out there who
00:01:03struggled last year their families like man this is such a boring thing that we had you get to fulfill
00:01:08that prophecy of hope for your future whether it's a dominant defensive end an unbelievable wide
00:01:13receiver cornerback combination a quarterback that can light your franchise up for the first time since
00:01:18steve air mcnair and maybe gets you to a super bowl so those teams that struggled last year in
00:01:23the fan bases didn't have a lot of fun tonight is your fun tonight and we'll see what happens
00:01:27it's a great point drs and it is not hyperbole to say that the future of the national football league
00:01:33will be shaped forever tonight yeah by the correct decisions or by those poor mistakes in the draft order
00:01:40as well your franchise's future could be altered on this thursday night in green bay wisconsin in the
00:01:48shadows of lambeau field in titletown and drs one of the stories of the very start of this 2025 nfl draft
00:01:56is the lack of movement in that draft order for the first time in the common draft era that dates all the
00:02:04way back to 1967 every single nfl franchise holds its original first round selection on draft day heck
00:02:14not even draft day at the start of the league year which comes each and every year on the calendar
00:02:20in the middle of march so as we're talking about every single nfl franchise let's put up the draft order
00:02:27that we have for tonight's first round there you see it drs one through 32 all 32 teams have that
00:02:36original first round pick there has not been a trade either from years previous or during this
00:02:42specific draft cycle at the end of the 2024 nfl season getting ready for 2025 and beyond exactly love
00:02:50to see the draft board up there all the logos there and if you're just watching this network this show
00:02:55this morning and have no idea what american football is you might ask yourself a question
00:02:59here ben and that question would be is like how do you get the draft order and why are the eagles
00:03:04picking 32nd why they're the best football team in the world which is the way it's supposed to be
00:03:10and i hope when the eagles select 32nd and whenever it's the second round or the third round the fourth
00:03:15round when you get to bring up players from your past to announce it they understand the task at hand
00:03:20like we used to see what david akers telling the dallas cowboys fans yes the reigning super bowl
00:03:25champion philadelphia eagles oh it's a good night yeah to draft 32nd why because the best football team
00:03:31in the nfl resides in philadelphia when you draft 32nd it means you won a lombardi trophy it means that
00:03:39donny right side will have a second replica lombardi maybe in that set as we get ready for a friday or a
00:03:48monday on the early line let's dive even deeper drs examining the top 10 because we'll look at the
00:03:54odds in just a moment we have draft odds for every single overall pick one through 10 here are the
00:04:00teams and where they stand might we see movement on draft day probably unlike as the draft begins
00:04:08now that is a very very different story drs during the draft we have averaged 5.6 trades
00:04:16in every single draft since 2020 the last five during the actual draft after the first team
00:04:23goes on the clock we have averaged 5.6 trades we have seen a trade and a half on average
00:04:29up or within the top 10 in every single draft since 2011 it's all quiet now on that draft front in green
00:04:39bay but that could very well change in just about 12 hours or so it can and also like we need that
00:04:47intrigue that's what makes draft night fun like you have unbelievable superstar front end talent that we
00:04:53expect to go in the top five and that's if we'll talk about ashton genti gets the five who's now the
00:04:58favorite to be drafted fifth overall by what team maybe it's jacksonville maybe somebody trades up but
00:05:02you want to set this night up where somebody has their hand in the bag right off the bat it's like
00:05:07we have a trade number two cleveland moves out oh my goodness that would set the night up so well
00:05:14and even if we get one two three in the same order we predicted here isn't four still that wild card
00:05:20right there with the patriots if they move out and trade who is it going to be did somebody move in
00:05:24there to take your door did somebody move up to take ashton genti because they can't wait till five
00:05:28because jacksonville is going to be there or does jacksonville go from five to four because they know
00:05:32somebody's going to jump them from ashton genti just give us that explosion to start the draft
00:05:37because the one thing we do love is throughout all these rounds veteran players will be moved for
00:05:41draft picks which is always fun to talk about and sometimes midway through the first round really
00:05:45good football players get traded for a first round pick we don't know who that's going to be but the
00:05:49expectations are there but just give us ben one of those highlights in the top five where somebody
00:05:55moves up and we're not technically sure who it's actually for that's what we need tonight
00:05:59absolutely so drs one through three feels rather solidified the titans browns giants in that order
00:06:08the patriots at four maybe five the jacksonville jaguars have been called the wild card of this
00:06:14opening round and certainly in the top five following jacksonville the raiders select sixth jet
00:06:20seventh panthers eighth the saints at nine in the chicago bears round out the top 10 drs we'll talk about
00:06:28six through ten in just a moment but one through five as of this draft morning if the odds makers are
00:06:35this confident are we going to see any surprises in those first five picks cam ward on the day of the
00:06:43draft it's all but a matter of time until we get official confirmation that cam ward is going first overall
00:06:49a minus 50 000 favorite and those odds are as up to date as you can be drs but they're even stronger
00:06:58travis hunter now minus 2000 abdul carter now minus 2000 to go second and third respectively
00:07:06will campbell minus 600 as the fourth overall pick and ashton jenty is now a minus 230 favorite to go
00:07:14fifth overall those odds and the rest and the other big storylines for draft day next live right
00:07:22here it is nfl draft day on the early line on sports grid what yeah i'm getting into the draft
00:07:29right now like did you know just talking about it getting the vibes going we've been talking for
00:07:32months about the same things we just need some mayhem we just need some top mayhem in this draft
00:07:38to set it off like ben what happens if you get word later tonight you're setting up you're in the
00:07:42studio maybe having a pre-game meal and you get word from one of our insiders at the sports grid
00:07:47network that the number one pick is officially now for sale like can't can't we have something like
00:07:52that that would just break brains and shatter expectations why can't we have this i don't know
00:07:58if we'll have that drs but i do think we will see some movement maybe in the top five and maybe even in
00:08:05the top 10 24 consecutive nfl drafts basically the entirety of this millennium where we have seen a
00:08:14team trade within or into the top 15 at least on draft night or even before but we're not expecting
00:08:24anything to happen prior to 8 p.m eastern time tonight in green bay if they are trading into the top five
00:08:31top 10 who might that prospect be they are targeting drs as the odds makers have shown
00:08:37we have basically figured out the top five cam ward minus 50 000 to go first overall travis hunter
00:08:44minus 2 000 now to go second abdul carter minus 2 000 now to go third will campbell minus 600 as that
00:08:53favorite to go fourth in the big news yesterday really in the last 24 to 36 hours the jacksonville
00:09:00jaguars seem more infatuated with the running back ashton jenty now a minus 230 favorite to be that
00:09:07fifth overall pick donnie is that exactly what the top five of the draft order is going to look like
00:09:13or might there be a stunning surprise in just 12 hours there has the surprise i don't think is coming
00:09:20from the top three now let's play it out how it should work like cam ward minus 50 000 we've known for
00:09:25a long time that's tennessee's guys they made that known that's why the number is there i don't think
00:09:29anybody's trading up to get him to be too expensive and maybe other teams aren't sold as much as the
00:09:33tennessee titans number two is travis hunter i don't think that's going to change now and rightfully so
00:09:37a couple weeks ago i thought that pick should have been abdul carter and maybe somebody trades up to
00:09:42get him i don't think anybody's trading up and using huge draft capital capital should say to get
00:09:46travis hunter i think he stays there but the intriguing position to me really is the giants and
00:09:51abdul carter at number three other teams around the nfl might seem like it could be a bargain to go up
00:09:55and get him and how much are the giants absolutely in love and the reason i say this i think he's the
00:09:59best player in the draft you might say what do you mean why wouldn't the giants be in love with what
00:10:02you say is the best player in the draft it's at a position that's not of need for the giants
00:10:07when there's quarterbacks on the board which means do i trade out get extra draft capital still get a
00:10:13great player in the middle of the first round still have enough capital to trade back into the first
00:10:16round with why i moved back from three where it doesn't really cost us anything i think the giants
00:10:21could be the true wild card at number three if they draft that blue carter it's a great pick
00:10:26because he's a great player but i do think there's the maneuverability where it's like we technically
00:10:30don't need him but we'll take him but if somebody gives us a pretty good number at three to slide back
00:10:35a couple spots recoup a first round draft pick and get the guy that we really need i think that might
00:10:39make some sense there ben yeah it really could drs again for these teams that maybe don't have the
00:10:45most optimistic outlook for the upcoming nfl season and you've got a lot of roster spots that
00:10:51need attention if somebody wants to move up the draft board then you could fill out and get a ton
00:10:58more draft capital if you decide to move back but with that being said drs oftentimes the move up is for
00:11:05a quarterback or at least an offensive player in fact on draft night in the last 15 years the first move
00:11:12up the draft order whether that be by a spot or a couple on draft night 12 of the 15 times it has been
00:11:21for an offensive player namely a quarterback but in 2023 we saw the first move up the draft board
00:11:28to third overall the texans selecting will anderson jr if the top five feels rather solidified how about
00:11:36six through ten we have no minus money favorites and we have seen a lot of movement both in prices
00:11:43and players drs overnight kelvin banks jr the offensive lineman out of texas now the favorite
00:11:51to go sixth overall to the las vegas raiders at the time of us filling out this show last night
00:11:58armand membu the offensive tackle out of missouri was a minus money favorite to go sixth he is now the
00:12:04favorite to go seventh mason graham incredibly intriguing the favorite to go eighth overall
00:12:10the interior d lineman from michigan at a plus 170 price michael williams ed rusher out of georgia
00:12:16plus 260 and tyler warren ds the mac drs the macie award winner from penn state plus 300 as the
00:12:24favorite to go 10th to the bears and i'm telling you a lot of people just saw that graphic and are
00:12:28saying who he played for at this point and myself include i'm telling you right now if we didn't talk
00:12:33about these names for about a week or two i wouldn't know any of these players who they played
00:12:37for what position they're in that's not a good look our number two nfl draft discussion next it is nfl
00:12:44draft day here on this thursday as we welcome you to our number two live right here on the early line
00:12:50he is donnie right side i am ben stevens in this second hour your draft day primer continues here on
00:12:57later in this second hour mark zeno will join us for his thoughts on the nfl draft we'll run a draft
00:13:04pick six we'll talk some nba playoff previews all of that and plenty more here on the early line drs
00:13:11is even fired up for the nfl draft that's how you know it's going to be a good one in 2025
00:13:16absolutely just went over to the fan dual sports book and said what happens if i place five dollars
00:13:21down on cam ward to be the number one overall pick ben the payout five dollar and one penny there
00:13:27you go so if you want to be a winner out there you cash that ticket in you show all of your friends
00:13:32you're trying to impress somebody in your life here look i had this pick here's my winning ticket
00:13:36right now just put the little you know blotches over how much you paid for it and be like you know
00:13:41what i'm a genius i knew this all along that's how you do it winning is winning investment is
00:13:47investment if it leads to you being in the black that's all you can ask so drs here on this nfl
00:13:53draft day the top five feels rather solidified from the odds maker's perspective cam ward minus
00:13:5950 000 a substantial favorite to go first overall travis hunter and abdul carter now live on the
00:14:06fan dual sports book minus 2 000 to go second and third respectively will campbell minus 600 favorite
00:14:12to go fourth ashton genti the big mover in the last 24 hours or so now a minus money favorite at
00:14:19minus 230 to be that fifth overall pick six through 10 much more up in the air kelvin banks the old
00:14:26lineman out of texas plus 160 favorite to go to the raiders at sixth overall armand membu plus 195
00:14:33the offensive tackle adam mizzou the favorite to go seventh mason graham plus 170 to go eight
00:14:40kel williams the ed rusher out of georgia plus 260 to go ninth in tyler warren at a three to one price
00:14:47the mackey award winner in the tight end from penn state the ever so slight favorite at a plus 300
00:14:53number to go 10th overall to chicago drs none of those favorites are minus money however to go six
00:15:03through 10 which means that could be a spot to see some movement in the draft order after all
00:15:09yeah and we'll see who wants to climb up or maybe trade out of those spots if they don't have true
00:15:14first round grades what they think is going to be a decision making player for their team but i do
00:15:18think it's interesting that 10 spot with warren if he does wind up and we don't get any trades in the
00:15:23top 10 to the chicago bears to pair up with cole comet i think that would be absolutely sensational
00:15:27add another weapon here that double tight end set you got wide receivers got running backs you got the
00:15:32quarterback of the future so i do think the bears are in a pretty good position to have that but
00:15:35it is interesting we're six to ten and i want to say household names because they're really good
00:15:39football players but i do think you get a lot of movement in that spot because what we've been
00:15:43hearing is that teams in the top 10 looking to trade out of the top 10 but not a lot of takers
00:15:49because again we don't know how front loaded this draft is outside of let's just say the top three to
00:15:53four picks right now which will add some intrigue as we get there i would be shocked if we go through
00:15:58the top 10 and there's not one move made and everybody just sticks to their position as they wanted
00:16:04to hear that would certainly be shocking but also here's what i need like late in the day
00:16:08where's the adam schlepter tweets out here that get people fired up as a massive players on the move
00:16:13because as ben was pointed out rightfully so like these numbers typically it's like okay they're
00:16:18going to move a couple weeks ago they'll move a few days before the draft maybe incrementally
00:16:21you know a day and a half before massive line movement already this morning like the number two
00:16:26and the number three pick getting solidified right now i wonder if we get a point where the
00:16:30fan do sports book ben is taking off the board because minus 50 000 really is off the board i don't know
00:16:35anybody's like hey let me pony up fifty thousand dollars to make like a hundred bucks back or even
00:16:41if the fan do sports book would take that here so essentially those numbers are there i just wonder
00:16:45where hunter and abdul carter finish one two and three because i still think that abdul card at minus
00:16:51two thousand he is the best player but i don't know if the giants draft him at three that might be the
00:16:56only intrigue for me so far that legitimately could happen yeah for me drs i do think the top five looks
00:17:03like that the small caveat you must always present when it comes to betting nfl draft markets
00:17:09if abdul carter goes third but the giants trade out to the new orleans saints and the saints select
00:17:16abdul carter third you still cash that ticket it is not abdul carter going third overall to the new
00:17:22york giants just abdul carter hearing his name called third earliest tonight in green bed of course one of
00:17:29the big storylines donnie for this nfl draft cycle and especially here during draft week in the last
00:17:3548 hours where will shador sanders go his stock on a slide as we get ready for this draft today
00:17:45shador sanders to be a first round pick still minus 370 but donnie that number wasn't even on the board
00:17:52on monday because he was a minus money price to go top 10 at minus 210 that number now hefty plus money
00:18:00as is his price to go top five and maybe most dramatically that over under position prop is 21
00:18:08and a half why is that significant because which nfl franchise drafts 21st overall the pittsburgh
00:18:15steelers who are now a minus 135 favorite to be the team to select shador sanders and here's the
00:18:24interesting part because we had joe lisi on yesterday talking about this and i think he's
00:18:27right on this i don't think if you're the pittsburgh steelers and you've identified shador sanders as
00:18:31your guy and amend the betting public goes well he's probably not going to make it past the steelers
00:18:35don't you think every other football team that actually looks at shador sanders and wants to
00:18:38trade up from those they can't wait for the pittsburgh steelers are and the steelers know that like
00:18:42understand this part of the key moving and shaking which howie roseman the eagles does very well he's
00:18:47traded up the past couple years to get team ahead of teams he knows wants to take a certain player
00:18:52you have to extend draft capital because they also know that you want that player so i would be
00:18:56astounded like if he winds up in pittsburgh which i think is a pretty good look for the steelers and
00:19:01finally you get what you think is going to be your franchise guy then there's no way they can wait
00:19:05because everybody is under the same assumption that he won't make it past the steelers so if you want
00:19:10shador sanders you got to get ahead of the steelers and the steelers understand that everybody's trying
00:19:15to do that where they might have to jump up one or two spots and pay a little bit extra of a premium
00:19:19to move up just to make sure they get the guy they want so i look at that 21 and a half and i say
00:19:24i don't know if that number is correct because again i would be very surprised where the nfo works
00:19:29is they just waited everybody knew they probably wanted them and they got them at that draft spot
00:19:34yeah i wonder as well drs i've shared this a few times when this when this odd market came out for
00:19:43the team to draft shador sanders the pittsburgh steelers had a 17 to 1 price a couple of weekends
00:19:49ago when we were doing final four coverage for sports grids bracket central i could not wait to
00:19:54get over to the garden state where i could actually bet the nfl draft at that time the steelers were a
00:19:599 to 1 price to draft shador sanders still made a ton of sense to me that's where i bet it i am very
00:20:05much hoping that minus money price is correct but i also thought drs it would be pittsburgh having to
00:20:11move up from 21st overall maybe past new orleans at number nine into the top 10 to go get their
00:20:18quarterback of the very hopeful future in the steel city now i'm not so sure because also as we have
00:20:25laid out the teams in desperate need of a quarterback either have given us zero indication
00:20:31they are going after a quarterback in the draft or they have already made their moves this offseason
00:20:37to at least solidify the quarterback room for 2025 looking at you the browns and the giants and perhaps
00:20:45the raiders i do think shador sanders goes 21st overall here on draft day to pittsburgh donnie we'll
00:20:53have so much more time to discuss the quarterbacks but the over under draft prop four qbs is two and a
00:21:00half and the over has the heavy juice at minus 167 if i think there is a plus money price that might
00:21:08make some sense tonight it could be the under of two and a half at plus 120 and it really all depends
00:21:16on what happens to jackson dart later in the opening round we will discuss later there is so much to
00:21:22get to here in our draft coverage it is time to win with zinn but for a very special thursday
00:21:29live right here on the early line it is draft day mark zinno gets you ready and sets the stage for the
00:21:36stage we will see tonight in green bay for the opening night the opening round of the 2025 nfl draft
00:21:43mark zinno as always we appreciate the time thanks for being here on this thursday on tel
00:21:49gentlemen no better place to be no better day to be here than the nfl draft i am excited
00:21:56i know you are mark and that warms my heart let's look at the draft order overall all 32 nfl franchises
00:22:04as we get ready for the draft on draft day still maintain their original first round pick of course
00:22:12you know that is history the first time it has ever happened in the common draft era around the
00:22:17national football league dating back to 1967 it is one of the main themes and narratives
00:22:23entering the 2025 nfl draft but in your mind is it the biggest what is the biggest storyline for
00:22:29mark zinno getting ready for draft night well it's obviously where the quarterbacks are going to go i mean
00:22:35we've seen a shuffling of the deck here as of late in all this jackson dart love coming in and and
00:22:41jordor sanders reportedly falling way late in the first round even out of the first round
00:22:46you know i and and with everybody here you have to try to figure out what's white noise and what is
00:22:51just shadow games and what's actual reality you know it's interesting because again when i hear all
00:22:57the talk about jackson dart oh here's his record against georgia here's his record against alabama and
00:23:02everything else you know like i remember us doing the same thing to bo nix last year like we forgot how
00:23:06much people chided bo nixon didn't think he was going to be all that in the nfl and with the right
00:23:11coach turned out to be a pretty decent quarterbacking year one what does that mean for the rest of his
00:23:14future not 100 sure but looks like he can play over the course of 17 games and leading his team to the
00:23:20playoffs so you have to take a lot of this stuff with a grain of salt here i will say this much you
00:23:24know after we did the show last week i got on my little sports book there and i decided to place a
00:23:30wager on shadora sanders draft position at under eight and a half and it was plus 190 at that time
00:23:37yeah okay so you made that face well lo and behold what happened 48 hours ago adam shefter got his
00:23:41happy butt on tv and decided to tell everybody that oh shadora sanders might fall down to 21 here at the
00:23:47steelers and well lo and behold what happened the entire market moved so i went back to look at my
00:23:54sports book and so now shadora sanders at under eight and a half was at plus 650 so i'm curious
00:24:02what would you guys have done because i'll tell you what i did
00:24:04bought back in uh did you buy back in go ahead bingo doubled right down on shadora sanders at under
00:24:12eight and a half at plus 650 because i figured why not i mean i like to me it was if i took a flyer on
00:24:20something that felt improbable at plus 190 why wouldn't i do it again at plus 160 if i was willing
00:24:26to lose a shekel once i'm willing to lose it twice at a much bigger number so and my hope here is now at
00:24:32this point in time for my wallet the giants are dumb enough to take shadora sanders at three
00:24:36two wrongs always make a right mark zeno i'm with you on that i love it i love it thank you i'm with you
00:24:43guys you guys could really get behind that i can understand the bravado behind it i don't think
00:24:48it's the best betting advice for our viewership here on the sports grid network but drs fire away
00:24:54drs love you yeah but i mean that's yeah we're the same way i mean look in all parts of my life
00:24:59double down never admit to the error keep moving eventually the other person will give way if you
00:25:04win that organ yeah see that there you go but getting back to the top 10 here if we look at the
00:25:08top three we want excitement tonight mark we really do but it doesn't look like let's just say the
00:25:12titans are going to trade pick number one so my question to you is if we look two through 10
00:25:17give me a spot where you think a trade-up could happen but more importantly which team do you
00:25:21believe is going to make a trade in or out of the top 10 if you see one coming tonight you know i kind
00:25:27of believe that the giants for joe shane and brian dayball who who knows how much job security they
00:25:34really have um like unless abdul carter is there right like there's a part of me that believes that
00:25:42like these guys don't want the pressure of drafting third overall and screwing it up
00:25:46the idea that they might take you know travis hunter and not work out or they take abdul carter
00:25:51and not work out or they take judo sanders and not work out they know they're all dead on arrival if
00:25:56that happens then why not get the heck out of that spot trade back and try to acquire more and go
00:26:01we'll just play the safe thing when something falls to us at 15 18 20 whatever it may be uh to somebody
00:26:08wants to come up and get them so i think they are a real linchpin here in the draft what happens
00:26:13with the giants at three and then you know again i i think that there's a lot of volatility here with
00:26:18the saints at nine um from all accounts that i've read they're not taking a quarterback they don't
00:26:23feel like there's one valuable there that that cam ward is the only one they got a first round grade on
00:26:27they need a ton of things they need a lot of cheap talent because they're still struggling with cap
00:26:32issues that they may want to get out of there at nine so i think we'll see one or two trades here in the
00:26:37top 10 before before it's all said and done tonight since 2011 when the draft has begun of course we
00:26:44have not seen a trade in the draft order prior to the beginning of the 2025 nfl draft but after the
00:26:50tennessee titans go on the clock and the draft officially starts tonight since 2011 we have
00:26:55averaged a trade and a half into or within the top 10 in nfl drafts you know right now though the
00:27:05odds makers are almost solidifying what the top five of the draft order is going to look like
00:27:10tonight cam ward now a minus 50 000 favorite to go first overall both travis hunter and abdul carter
00:27:17now minus 2000 to go second and third will campbell and minus 600 favorite to go fourth overall in the
00:27:25big move in the top five has been ashton jenty now a minus 250 price to be that fifth overall pick
00:27:32you know when we get through the top five of the nfl draft and oh just a little bit shy of 12 hours
00:27:38tonight in green bay is that exactly what the draft order is going to look like in the top five
00:27:44no because i still think jenty is going to go four and i think the patriots are another team
00:27:48that uh actually could trade out they have a ton of needs and mike vrabel has always been as smart
00:27:54as a coach as he has been as a sort of front office executive and knowing how to rebuild a roster
00:27:59and knowing that he has a bunch of needs i don't think he'd mind trading back to a team that wants
00:28:03to move up and go get ashton jenty because they believe as the best running back in this draft
00:28:07he could ultimately be a playmaker and a game changer for some offense here going forward
00:28:11i kind of still would be surprised that's the one guy i think that we're starting to hear
00:28:15a lot of noise on an ashton jenty that's actually true that after the top three go of cam ward travis
00:28:21hunter and abdul carter if they go to those three teams but at least they would go in that order
00:28:25um that jenty would be the next guy off the board because uh it's just too much value to pass up for
00:28:32a player of his stature that can really change an offense we take a look at that six to ten range
00:28:38here which again is up in the air the top five should be a lot of fun tonight there is intrigue
00:28:41at four and five if players stay there or it's going to say if teams stay there trade in or trade out
00:28:45what players end up getting picked there but from six to ten is there a mover a shake on your board mark
00:28:50that you really like there or maybe a surprise that you might see between those draft picks
00:28:54yeah i think uh uh marcus golden from texas may be the guy who shakes up the draft board as far as
00:29:02the top wide receiver off the board i know tec mcmillan has been getting all the love but i think
00:29:06he's a guy that's actually going to be the first wide receiver taken off the board and it wouldn't
00:29:10surprise me if it happened inside the top 10 i would also tell you i think that tyler warren falls
00:29:14outside the top 10 i i look learn from the kyle pitts experiment you don't take tight ends that high
00:29:21you just don't like it there's not a value there even brock bowers went at 11 right so uh i know 10
00:29:28is only one spot away but it just feels like gms have learned that we're never going to get the
00:29:33value of a top 10 pick out of a tight end um and so i think warren may end up falling back a little
00:29:39bit so of course mark zinno being the mark that he is i think he was referring to matthew golden the
00:29:46wide receiver out of texas via houston but mark is always first and foremost
00:29:51donnie doesn't donnie where did mason graham go to college yeah see that's cheating because we
00:29:57brought him up on the show michigan but there's a couple i wish we would have played this game like
00:30:01two weeks ago would have been pretty funny to watch these players go out like ashton jenty man
00:30:05where did he go again you know what i mean yeah you knew that one you were you were battling with
00:30:10boise state fans in september about ashton jenty's usage so you could know that he played for the
00:30:16broncos if ashton jenty goes in the top 10 tonight especially in fifth or fourth or sixth overall it
00:30:23will be the highest a boise state player has ever been selected in nfl draft history zinno said his top
00:30:31storyline was the number of quarterbacks that we see in round number one tonight and he is still holding
00:30:38on hope for the under eight and a half can't even say it out loud eight and a half for jenor sanders
00:30:44we talk qb's next the quarterback position each and every year for the nfl draft is always one of
00:30:52the main narratives to follow throughout the entirety of the draft cycle and now on draft night and of
00:30:58course the one individual who probably will move the market one way or the other the most that would
00:31:04be colorado's qb in shador sanders now mark zinno has told you he has doubled down on what i would
00:31:10consider a bad bet of under eight and a half and a couple of plus money prices on shador sanders draft
00:31:17position prop as of this draft day on the fan duel sports book that number is 21 and a half convenient
00:31:24if you ask me because which franchise drafts 21st overall the pittsburgh steelers who are now a minus
00:31:31135 favorite to be the team to draft shador sanders all of that information mark right back to you
00:31:39where do you think shador sanders gets picked in the 2025 nfl draft well look even if you believe
00:31:46that the pittsburgh steelers are eyeing up shador sanders you still have to take the under 21 and a
00:31:50half because you got to move in front of them to go get him right like unless the steelers are willing
00:31:57to trade out at 21 which means they never wanted him to begin with right like you have to jump in
00:32:03front of pittsburgh i don't see a reason to play if you're if the only other bet that takes you door
00:32:08sanders is to fall out of the first round altogether right like there's no reason i think you take over
00:32:13sure could somebody trade back in but at that point in time you know again i mean are you giving away
00:32:19for a team to trade out at 27 28 they're gonna want at least a second round pick next year
00:32:25you know what i'm saying like they're going they're going to want a lot um to move into that
00:32:30spot there and it might not be worth it to teams to give it away when they know none of those teams
00:32:34are going to take shador sanders period so you can let him fall so i think in general here the
00:32:40philosophy on shador sanders and taking him is that if he gets outside the top 10 then probably just
00:32:45a solid chance he might fall out of the first round altogether because um you know again i i think
00:32:51that there's enough lust for quarterbacks in this league and what do we say in the
00:32:54break guys what you do or you're drafting two things right you're drafting his potential because
00:32:58i think he's got the biggest and the highest upside of any quarterback in this draft i think that's kind
00:33:02of what the feeling is that with the right coaching at the next level and everything else he can ascend to
00:33:07a level that other guys can't get to and quarterbacks are always overdrafted um like if he doesn't if he
00:33:15gets past the giants then you know i don't know that somebody doesn't move back in the top 10 to get
00:33:21him if they don't do that then uh you know the fall could come right out of the first round
00:33:26altogether i just have a hard time believing that he would s21 and still stay in the first round
00:33:32if we look at shador sanders mark right coming into the season the preseason favorite to be the
00:33:37number one overall pick in the draft and granted if you're a first round or a second round you're
00:33:41still drafting your quality football player but why might we see the drop on shador sanders let's just
00:33:46say he doesn't go to pittsburgh at let's 21 and he lasts to 27 28 29 or into the second round
00:33:51what was shown on tape and or just the player coming to a new city where he would drop out of
00:33:57the first round because i know your point is valid and it's right quarterbacks are overdrafted every
00:34:01year this kid's a talent why would he not go in the first round right and that's the point like
00:34:06is there somebody out there who looked at jackson dart's tape and looked at shador sanders and can
00:34:12clearly unequivocally say jackson dart is a better quarterback the idea that jackson dart would go in
00:34:16the first round and shador wouldn't to me seems flawed either they both in the first round or they
00:34:21both fall out of the first round when you look at shador again i think you see a really high ceiling
00:34:25i think you see a guy who can do a lot of different things on the football field that many other
00:34:29quarterbacks can't and that's kind of you know and outside of the name that you're drafting in
00:34:34sanders and it being dion's kid and dion is right if his last name was smith we would be having a
00:34:39whole different conversation around him uh but because he's related it's dion sanders son there's
00:34:43there's there's absolute truth to the amount of smoke that is around his name throughout this entire
00:34:48draft process for sure you could also argue the opposite of that equation if his name was smith
00:34:54would he be following dion to the level that he did at the fps campaign i'm not entirely sure i think it
00:35:00works in both ways with notoriety and attention there is going to be naysayers and a ton of focus on what
00:35:07you do i think chenor sanders is a very very talented quarterback had a 74 completion percentage
00:35:13last year in 2024 when he was a first team all-american when he was the big 12 player of the
00:35:19year that 74 completion percentage was the sixth pass by an fps quarterback in a single season
00:35:25in history and yet there are certain things that nfl teams highlight that he played in a very pass
00:35:32heavy offense where he was the guy and he takes a lot of sacks that might not translate to the next
00:35:38level that is why i think we are seeing the stock slide any character questions i think are overblown
00:35:44you want your quarterback to be confident chenor sanders though mark we still expect to be a first
00:35:50round selection minus 370 cam ward is the minus 50 000 favorite to go first overall jackson dart still
00:35:58remains a favorite to be a first round pick in the over under for the number of quarterbacks taken
00:36:03in round number one is two and a half in the over has the hefty juice at the end of 32 selections
00:36:10on night number one marks you know how many qbs go in the first round
00:36:14i i think we we get to i want to say four i mean i really do like is there a team out there that's
00:36:24drafting at the end of this draft that looks at tyler shook and goes that kid's still a project
00:36:29give me two or three years with them and we can figure out what we have but again the idea that
00:36:33you're going to invest a first round you know pick into a guy that you know doesn't have any long-term
00:36:39aspirations for you it's one thing when you do it at 11 like the chiefs did and you had he was he was
00:36:44the heir apparent no one at that stage of the draft is going to be the heir apparent unless you get a
00:36:48trade back in so uh i think we get four i genuinely think we if we don't get it's either two or four
00:36:55right i don't think it lands on three i think again multiple guys fall out of the first round
00:37:00like jackson dart and jaylen miller is not projected but both of those guys do it or uh none of them do
00:37:06it so if you if you believe it's like i do it's either two and it's ward and sanders or it's four
00:37:12because dart and milrow or dart and shook both get in the first round could the atlanta falcons look
00:37:18for another quarterback the question always has to be asked you know with what the uh the falcons
00:37:24draft strategy could be you are there in atlanta you cover the falcons very well the hefty favorite
00:37:30for the first position drafted by the dirty birds is a defensive lineman at minus 400 is that the plan
00:37:37on draft night for the falcons well look everybody in atlanta wants them to draft a defensive player so
00:37:43you would think that's the case but don't be surprised to see them go all linemen they have
00:37:47caleb and garry's in the last year but you have jake matthews who's long in the tooth they're going to
00:37:52need a right tackle to protect michael michael pennix's blind side and they may find it here in the first
00:37:57round i would keep an eye on shamar stewart making his way up the draft board for that spot at 15 we
00:38:04continue to set the stage here on this thursday but not just any ordinary thursday it is draft day
00:38:11in the national football league donnie and i will do a pick six starting in our next segment together
00:38:17much to the delight of drs tom vecchio will join us later on to end out this third and final hour
00:38:24for the prop perspective on this thursday because the draft is happening and maybe that's your main focus
00:38:29and your main priority but we still have three nba playoff games we still got stanley cup playoff action
00:38:36on the ice and we've got nine mlb games on this thursday as well plenty for tv tom to dive into
00:38:43plenty of thoughts and bets coming your way here in this third and final hour absolutely getting set up
00:38:49for the draft tonight where superstars will be made but also understand this like if you're looking at this
00:38:53saying well where's the juice for the draft like we know draft pick one two and three technically you
00:38:59might think you do based on let's just say the overall odds at the fan blue sports book but we're
00:39:04not that far removed ben where it was well who are we going to pick first well he's already under
00:39:09contract to that team four days ahead of the draft then two falls in line and three falls in line where
00:39:14you don't have any instance where it's like oh we don't know what's going to happen you knew what's
00:39:18going to happen because they already signed the contracts and signability was a big deal before they
00:39:23started slotting the players in their draft picks and how much money they can make so we do have
00:39:26intrigue i'm just waiting and holding out hope that this afternoon we get something that sends
00:39:32shock waves on the richter scale right through the nfl draft that's what we need here picks are on the
00:39:38move players are on the move what's going to happen let's see again the idea of trades is not
00:39:45happening this year but it is happenstance often in the nfl draft cycle either from years previous
00:39:52or in that specific year to see trades prior to the draft even if we don't see any prior to 8 p.m eastern
00:40:00time tonight when the titans are on the clock with the first overall selection we should see at least
00:40:06a few throughout draft night and the duration of one through 32 the rs of course a lot of trades and
00:40:16movement happens because of quarterbacks you see teams trying to fly up the draft order to get their
00:40:22signal caller of the future this not perceived as the greatest quarterback class here in 2025 one of the
00:40:29reasons we haven't seen those flurries of deals so far but when we look at the presumed top two
00:40:35quarterbacks for the 2025 class who's going to have a better rookie year who's going to have a better nfl
00:40:42career we debate between cam ward and shador sanders by first asking all of you and fade the public
00:40:49at sports grid on twitter which quarterback will have a better nfl career donny cam ward is a minus
00:41:0350 000 favorite to be the first overall pick and in the last 36 hours or so shador sanders is seeing
00:41:11his draft stock take a stumble and he might end up late in the opening round at 21st overall as the
00:41:18odds are indicating right now to the pittsburgh steelers it's not quite the comparison of last
00:41:23year caleb williams versus jaden daniels one versus two but for most of this draft cycle really since the
00:41:31end of the college football and nfl seasons respectively we thought there were really two
00:41:36quarterbacks with a first round grade who would go up neck and neck against each other of course there
00:41:42is some difference now between where ward is slotted and where is where sanders is expected to go but
00:41:49still those two quarterbacks we have really compared throughout this draft process obviously because of
00:41:55those distinctions cam ward runs away with the fade the public poll nearly 84 percent of our public
00:42:02vote drs on twitter saying cam ward is set to have the better nfl career i'm not so sure you could
00:42:09argue that type of assessment at this moment but did you for me like i voted cam ward i think he's
00:42:18going to be the better quarterback but there's also you know things that you can play into it where
00:42:2284 percent of the votes coming in on cam ward that's a little bit out of whack that's like saying
00:42:27like okay shador is just going to be a complete bust and cam ward's on his way to get a bust
00:42:31in canton as a hall of fame member but understand this too both of these quarterbacks coming from
00:42:36different environments where it was cam ward nobody wanted me out of high school let me fight my way
00:42:40all the way to miami and become the number one overall pick where i had to grind and fight
00:42:44everywhere i went this isn't a knock against your door sanders where the talent coming out of high
00:42:48school was certainly there but the father was deon grooming him all along to be a great nfl slash
00:42:53quarterback slash athlete took him to jackson state then over to colorado and was always going to be
00:42:58planted in that position to succeed and he has succeeded here so for my money i do think it's
00:43:02cam ward i think he has a better arm and just the moxie that he showed at miami which again a joke about
00:43:07where you know i didn't know much about cam ward watching him on the pacific west coast and get too
00:43:11many you know visions of him but him at miami he passes the test and everything cool calm collected
00:43:16big throws and big moments ran a great offense there and certainly fighting his way to being the top
00:43:21overall drift when it wasn't at the beginning of the season he was going to be number one or even at the
00:43:25end of the season people thought he'd be number one there was a lot of question marks i just like
00:43:29everything about cam but again shador sanders in no way shape or form should be only 16 of the vote
00:43:34today on which quarterback should have a better career him or cam ward drs we have talked so much
00:43:40about shador sanders and his draft odds profile because of the singular and individual prospect that
00:43:46he is and because how much those markets have moved around his draft stock a top five pick
00:43:52probably not a top 10 pick well as of last week it seemed like a surefire occurrence now we're
00:43:58debating if he's a first round pick and maybe even outside of the top 20 we'll get back to shador in
00:44:05just a second but because of all the conversation around sanders we haven't spent a ton of time
00:44:10discussing cam ward and highlighting the prospect he is going one of one in first overall again we
00:44:18referenced this a few times last year caleb williams was a minus 100 000 favorite to be the
00:44:25first overall pick that was probably the price on caleb williams the year prior after 2022's college
00:44:31football season and winning the heisman trophy before he had to return to usc based on eligibility
00:44:37and when he could declare for the nfl draft he was the prince that was promised always at number one
00:44:44of course jaden daniels ran away with offensive rookie of the year trevor lawrence was a surefire
00:44:49first overall pick out of clemson for the jacksonville jaguars we have seen incredibly strong favorites
00:44:57like ward's price on draft day at minus 50 000 to go first overall but cam ward was not necessarily
00:45:04always that guy as you alluded to drs nearing the close of the college football season cam ward wasn't
00:45:11the favorite to go first overall heck even entering combine week just about two months ago he was only
00:45:17a minus 120 minus 135 favorite to be that first overall pick now we just await official confirmation
00:45:26at minus 50 000 camp ward's story is a unique one a zero star recruit out of high school that started at
00:45:35the fcs level at incarnate word went from incarnate word to pullman to play at washington state transfers
00:45:42from wazoo for his final year of college football at miami is a first team all-american the first
00:45:48hurricane ever to win acc player of the year the first heisman finalist for miami since the early
00:45:552000s and you see it right there 39 passing touchdowns of his 43 total set miami single season records
00:46:03drs for passing yards more than 4 300 and passing touchdowns at 39 camp ward is going to get his
00:46:11coronation as the first overall pick tonight incorrectly so and he should right and you see
00:46:18that the elevation and also understand this this could be interesting for quarterbacks down the line
00:46:22as well don't you remember last year where he was like i'm going gross like i'm not going back to
00:46:26college decided to put his name back in college winds up at miami and instead of being like oh he might
00:46:31be an intriguing prospect somewhere down the line to solidify himself as the number one overall
00:46:36draft pick that's pretty cool the nfl draft pick six here on the early line up next a 2025 nfl draft
00:46:45pick six live right here on this thursday on the early line on sports grid it is draft day in the
00:46:51shadows of lambeau field out in parking lot three the nfl draft takes place on this thursday night in green
00:46:59bay round one tonight rounds two and three tomorrow rounds four through seven to close things out
00:47:06come your way on saturday afternoon by the way let me just say sports grid's draft special begins
00:47:13tonight at 7 30 p.m eastern time we have you completely covered for the entirety of tonight's
00:47:20opening round it will be myself kevin walsh and joe lisi providing that odds analysis and the perspective
00:47:26on the prospects as we know it for the 2025 nfl draft and a second set that will feature a second
00:47:34crew of mike blew it and our sports grid nfl insider in adam kaplan the nfl wrinkles to all of this team
00:47:41needs and how these prospects are going to fit into the plans for the futures of these franchises all of
00:47:48that drs starting at 7 30 p.m eastern time tonight here on sports grid it's a good one is joe lisi's sole
00:47:55job tonight on the desk to explain in the eyes of an lsu fan of how the draft breaks down and how
00:48:00other players played against lsu and how that should influence your picking them and where they should
00:48:05go in the draft that's what i want to know that's what i want to look forward to basically it's how
00:48:10does he view a prospect did that prospect either win him a lot of money during their college football
00:48:16careers or did they lose him a wager because if so that's kind of how he does his mocks and his
00:48:23main evaluation tool for the 2025 nfl draft ours drs a little bit different we will go through our pick
00:48:30six a slightly different pick six of course in terms of category a team to watch of course maybe
00:48:37somebody that could be on the move or surprise us with a selection tonight a sleeper maybe for the
00:48:43opening round or just to know later on throughout this draft the team that will draft should or
00:48:48sanders how many quarterbacks do we see in round number one a round one best bet in the position of
00:48:55mr irrelevant that ticket can be cashed on saturday with the final pick in the 2025 nfl draft all right
00:49:03drs begin your pick six the team to watch tonight in a draft order so far that has seen zero movement
00:49:11is which franchise the new york giants they're in position to do something really good if they have
00:49:18an ownership group which i trust and i don't they have a general manager that you should trust and i
00:49:22don't they have a head coach that you trust and i don't but outside of that things are looking up for
00:49:27the new york giants why because they hold the number three draft pick tonight this is a three player
00:49:31draft really technically it's probably a two-player draft but quarterbacks usually get removed from the
00:49:35equation the two best players in this draft are travis hunter and abdul carter the giants will get one of
00:49:41those at number three but the question for me is what did they do in the rest of the first round
00:49:45they only have one draft pick in the first round what else are they going to do do they trade back
00:49:49in to get a quarterback that they deem can be your franchise guy and i don't care what quarterback it
00:49:54is ben if they feel it's milro if they feel it's shook if they feel it's sanders like on that on that
00:49:59timeline here or even jackson dart i think that would be intriguing because you didn't come away in the
00:50:04draft saying we had to force quarterback at three because we were dumb enough to win a football game
00:50:09at the end of the season you might have actually lucked out by doing that by saying all right
00:50:13we really liked cam warden we probably would have taken him number one overall but we don't have
00:50:16that luxury now let's get a generational player at three trade back into the first round and get our
00:50:22quarterback of the future and we win multiple ways on the draft but as i just told you ben i don't trust
00:50:28the coach the general manager or the owner to be smart enough to make the right decisions in order to do
00:50:33that but the giants tonight certainly my team to watch on what they do yeah drs listen i would agree
00:50:40with you i'm not exactly sure the giants are going to move out of that spot but it would make a lot of
00:50:45logistical sense you have already solidified your quarterback room it would appear for 2025 what do you
00:50:52need talent everywhere and we gave new york so much flack and honestly correctly so for winning that week 17
00:51:00game against a colts team that was still in the hunt for the playoffs even if it seemed unlikely as
00:51:06a touchdown underdog at home because had they not they would have been drafting number one overall
00:51:11and a very different story for the giants in 2025 perhaps joe shane and brian dayball now drafting third
00:51:18overall drs and still having a chance at a quarterback and yet deciding more than likely not to go that way
00:51:25is intriguing minus 3 500 is the price on abdul carter to be the third overall pick but as donnie
00:51:32highlighted is he a prospect talented enough to move the market to have somebody trade up the draft
00:51:38board i would say so we'll see if it happens drs it does seem the top five at least from the odds
00:51:45perspective is rather solidified and if you ask me right here right now what would i say that exact
00:51:50order is cam ward one travis hunter two abdul carter three will campbell four ashton genti now five
00:51:57it's a minus 165 price on the fan duel sports book i'd say yeah that's likely and worth a bet but i do
00:52:05really think jacksonville is intriguing the jags don't desperately need a running back in ashton genti
00:52:13is that the smartest move for rookie head coach liam cohen and rookie gm whose name i am forgetting
00:52:20right now in jacksonville young guy james something is that the smartest move for this new era of jaguars
00:52:27football to pair genti alongside trevor lawrence is that going to make the biggest difference for this
00:52:34jags organization i would say no although i believe ashton genti is talented enough but really the question
00:52:40becomes drs is ashton genti a guy that teams are willing to trade up for by a spot a few spots even
00:52:49into the top five i would say maybe just maybe right now and i do think jacksonville is that wild card
00:52:56with the fifth overall pick tonight yeah no and you're right about it they sit right in that prime
00:53:01position like the number four spot i do think is intriguing as well with new england but also
00:53:04putting out the smoke screen we talked about your door sanders earlier saying well the steelers probably
00:53:09want him at 21 if you want your door sanders you probably got to jump to pittsburgh steelers based
00:53:14on the smoke screens the same thing with the jacksonville jaguars if they're putting out feelers
00:53:18like we really like ashton genti here you better trade up ahead of them or trade with them to get
00:53:24that said player so i think it's a pretty good pick as we're going higher up in the draft me the number
00:53:28three pick same sort of situation but looking at it saying we're going to get a great player then can
00:53:32we trade back up and you looking at it as maybe the pivot point in the draft where the first
00:53:36major deal goes down in order to get that running back which we think is going to land in
00:53:41jacksonville and again if it's ashton genti at minus 230 for him to cash that ticket as the fifth
00:53:47overall pick fans will love that doesn't have to be the jags making that selection the rest of our
00:53:53nfl draft pick six it continues up next live right here on the early line our 2025 nfl draft pick six
00:54:01continues here on this thursday on tel a team to watch either for the decision they make or maybe
00:54:08trading out of their original draft position donnie highlighted the giants i highlighted the jags now
00:54:14let's talk a sleeper either for night number one or day two or perhaps the entirety of the draft
00:54:20at least a prospect drs that we want to highlight that should be on everybody's radar when he steps
00:54:27into the national football league who is that guy for you let me read you the statistics last year
00:54:33117 receptions 1555 yards and 10 touchdowns in a meaningless bowl game which was not meaningless
00:54:43to this gentleman who was trying to shatter records 17 catches 213 yards and a touchdown in that game
00:54:51this player harold fanon jr of the bowling green falcons he is a tight end he is an exciting tight
00:55:00end and also one of those uncovered gems where you didn't see him on your tv screen every week you
00:55:05only got to see him in action action on a tuesday and a wednesday night in november but this guy puts
00:55:10up statistics six four two thirty and where was he born ben canton ohio is it just scripted perfectly
00:55:19where life begins in canton and memorialized with a bust in canton when it's all said and done this
00:55:25kid can pick up those feet and put them down and run people over and out jump people i like my guy
00:55:32harold fanon jr tight end a player to watch in this draft yep no doubt about it drs i think harold fanon
00:55:40jr deserves a lot more credit than we will see he is not going to be a first round pick more than likely
00:55:46but it's a really good tight end class it's also a really good running back class it might not be
00:55:51the greatest qb class we have ever seen but i do think there's a chance we see three tight ends
00:55:56drafted in the first round led by tyler warren michigan's colston loveland and mason taylor son
00:56:02of jason out of lsu but whoever gets harold fanon jr either on day two or day three rounds two through
00:56:09seven i think has a gem seen more as a pass catcher maybe not the best inline blocker you
00:56:16have ever seen i think the guy's a dog and is going to have a very successful nfl career fps record for
00:56:22the most receiving yards in a single season by a tight end 1555 this past year for the falcons block
00:56:31buster type of player in my estimation my sleeper drs is maybe the best interior d lineman out of
00:56:39michigan tonight and it's not mason graham who i am discussing i think kenneth grant is going to be
00:56:45an instant impact type of player as soon as he enters the national football league now donnie i live in new
00:56:52york state as you well know if i was in new jersey a bet i would have made last week even around a minus
00:56:59215 price would have been kenneth grant to be a first round pick sometimes when you don't live in
00:57:04a state you can bet the nfl draft you lose numbers kenneth grant is now minus 480 to be a first round
00:57:11selection mason graham is probably the first michigan player to be drafted tonight but i do think we will
00:57:17see four players from the maze and blue go in tonight's opening round mason graham colston loveland the
00:57:24tight end will johnson the corner and then keep an eye on the game wrecker
00:57:29and havoc bringer that is kenneth grant i think he is going to be a sensational first round
00:57:34selection for somebody later on in tonight's opening round if you could give me a top 20 price
00:57:41i would probably sprinkle on kenneth grant but our only available odds top five top 10 first round
00:57:48if he does have a draft position prop open up later this afternoon i'll probably lean the under
00:57:53yeah we'll see where some of these tight ends go to talking about loveland as well from michigan
00:57:58and also fanning as well going a little bit later but the philadelphia eagles at 32 last year of a
00:58:03contract for one of their better tight end prospects that they drafted a few years ago in dallas goddard
00:58:07could be up in the air as well so a lot of fun a lot of intrigue and also a lot of high risers that
00:58:12might surprise tonight for us as well looking forward to it yeah no doubt about it and drs what was really
00:58:17interesting about mason graham yesterday had a minus 12 000 price during the afternoon to be a top 10
00:58:23selection and yet did not have one of the two best prices at any of the spots six through ten
00:58:29ashton genti became that favorite to go fifth overall now mason graham is the favorite at plus 170
00:58:37to go eighth to the carolina panthers who i think are investing in one form or another along that d line
00:58:44mason graham jalen walker out of georgia or maybe michael williams drs we've got 30 seconds left here in
00:58:51this segment then in our following segment we will finish out the pick six with a lot of focus on the
00:58:57quarterback spot including the team to draft shador sanders and how many qbs we see in tonight's opening
00:59:05round all of that and plenty more draft discussions coming your way as we round out the pick six up next
00:59:13live right here on the early line on sports one of the main storylines for tonight and perhaps the biggest
00:59:20question of the opening round of the 2025 nfl draft where is shador sanders going we'll try to tell you
00:59:28here on the early line we round out our nfl draft pick six in 2025 drs which team which nfl franchise
00:59:36is drafting shador sanders i'm picking the giants again as my watch team because i do think they need a
00:59:43quarterback of the future i don't think the giants can come away with a project quarterback which
00:59:48again if you're looking at the first round and there's a couple names that are popping up there
00:59:51we're not talking about any one of those guys it's like a project quarterback you're talking about
00:59:55those quarterbacks let's just say the handful of the first four or five they can be starting
00:59:59quarterbacks and franchise guys possibly if things work out not like the giants take a six round flyer on
01:00:04a quarterback that nobody ever heard of okay we grabbed the quarterback and got him that's why i talk about
01:00:08the giants because also when you're looking at like how do you sell an ownership group and we're
01:00:13just talking about the mara family at this point on you coming back it's drafting a quarterback and
01:00:18saying i can groom this guy into being a starting quarterback and we can win a lot of football games
01:00:23which does buy you time in the nfl now the conspiracy theories that kevin and i talk about a money line
01:00:28which kevin had a great one where teams don't want to draft your door sanders because they feel
01:00:32if they draft them and he plays okay or doesn't play the first year that the ownership group is going to
01:00:38fire the general manager and the coach and hire deon sanders and he comes in to take their job
01:00:42you would have to think that head coaches here like mike thomas do you think mike thomas will
01:00:45think about that for this year i was like man if i get you know deon's kid this year and we win one
01:00:50more game than we lose i might get fired and in comes deon like no but the giants it's kind of funny
01:00:55that that conspiracy theory would have legs like they got to protect their own which they've been doing
01:00:59for the past couple years but again making the smart decision for a franchise you do have to start
01:01:04the quarterback sooner than later even if you have a russell wilson and or winston at this point
01:01:09but i just think the giants getting a quarterback makes a lot of sense and i don't think it's the
01:01:13smoke screens that were hey you know what we don't like shadour but we love jackson dart a team shouldn't
01:01:18be releasing that type of information through their scouts or head coach before the draft starts or
01:01:23putting it out there as an absolute smoke screen is a smarter move so drs let me ask you if the giants
01:01:30do end up selecting shadour sanders where do you think that is not third overall i would presume
01:01:36i i i don't think so but hear me out on this because i i don't know if you want to if shadour
01:01:43is your guy you probably would just take him at three but there's a little bit of question marks
01:01:46there which brings me to my next equation if the steelers stay at 21 and don't draft shadour sanders
01:01:53i would think the giants would have enough capital and make it make sense financially
01:01:58to move up into the mid-20s where it's not going to cost you nearly as much as 12 13 14 or 15 i do
01:02:05think that's a big price point because if you want to jump out of the steelers which in the steelers
01:02:09would know they have to jump ahead it's like oh you know we got our number three overall pick
01:02:13yes we wanted a quarterback but if you were that sold where you're jumping up using future ones you
01:02:18should have just got the kid at three and said we'll deal with it later at that point right so that's
01:02:22what i look at where sanders to the giants makes sense if he gets into the 20s if shadour sanders is
01:02:29not picked by pittsburgh at 21 overall there is a really good chance that despite being a minus 480
01:02:35favorite now to be a first round selection he ends up going round two because there are not many teams
01:02:42following the saints at nine really 10 through 20 and then the steelers at 21 and then 22 through 32
01:02:50that would even look at a quarterback with the investment of a first round pick maybe some future
01:02:56eyes but with a first round pick that remains to be seen the giants have the second pick of the second
01:03:03round at 34th overall the browns have the first pick of round two tomorrow night on a friday 33rd overall
01:03:11the rs i have told you oftentimes the team that i have always thought would draft shadour sanders
01:03:16would be the pittsburgh steelers to me it just made the most sense for a variety of aspects
01:03:21now i think the steelers don't even have to move off that number 21 overall selection and get their
01:03:27quarterback for the future for pittsburgh it would be the third time in this millennium they have
01:03:33drafted a quarterback in round one ben roethlisberger in 2004 at 11th overall kenny pickett
01:03:40at 20th overall in 2022 shadour sanders maybe at 21st overall here in 2025 i bet the steelers at a
01:03:49plus 900 price to be the team to draft shadour now close to a month ago when i was out in new jersey
01:03:55i hope by the time i get to new jersey later for our sports grid draft special that ticket is cashed
01:04:02it's now minus 135 for pittsburgh to be the team to draft shadour sanders yeah no it makes some sense
01:04:08look the eyes are pointing that direction he's going to go in the first round because again
01:04:14quarterbacks get overdrafted we'll take a look in just a few moments how many quarterbacks we think
01:04:17go in the first round but i again i would be surprised if he makes it into the mid-20s which then
01:04:23puts a lot of other teams on the clock saying if we liked him a little bit boy we got value we don't
01:04:28have to trade into the top five to get him we just have to trade back into the first round much
01:04:32more manageable position i can't imagine he slips out of the 20s there but if he does that's why i
01:04:38talk about the giants but the steelers like wouldn't that be perfect like i don't think they traded up
01:04:42for ben roethlisberger and he turned out to be a great pick even after a couple quarterbacks already
01:04:45taken before him same thing here with shadour sanders like if pittsburgh gets shadour at 21 doesn't use any
01:04:51capital and feels like they have their franchise guy that's a big time home run specifically if he turns
01:04:56out to be a pro bowl caliber player that was of course the eli manning and philip rivers draft where
01:05:03manning was drafted first by the chargers traded for philip rivers who was drafted by the giants and
01:05:08of course as you know the rest is history big ben there at 11th overall all right drs i do believe
01:05:15we see two quarterbacks in round number one but i want to know what you think how many qbs do we see
01:05:20tonight in the opening round if i say cam ward's going number one overall which he will be and i know
01:05:26shadour sanders go in the first round somebody's going to reach because we're not also taking a
01:05:31look at like the lamar jackson mover hey trade back into the first round left pick because we think he's
01:05:35going to be a good quarterback but maybe need an extra year to really make sure lamar was great right
01:05:39off the bat which worked out in spades what a great move for the baltimore ravens now understand this
01:05:44if shadour sanders does go 21 that means we have roughly 10 just over 10 picks where other teams that
01:05:52need quarterbacks understand it's very important to take that quarterback in the first round in the
01:05:57second round because the extra year that you can hold that quarterback under your own exchange like
01:06:03the arbitration years in baseball we have for a couple more years you get the extra fifth year as
01:06:08opposed to the four years that's why i believe it so if your pick comes true and shadour goes 21 to
01:06:13the pittsburgh steelers my goodness there has to be another quarterback that goes before the end of the
01:06:17first round because if we're hearing all this smoke on players that they think might be good trust me
01:06:22right now taking that quarterback 36 is stupid spend the extra capital to get him in the first round so
01:06:29you have the extra year to hold on to him so you can develop that said quarterback it's just a matter if
01:06:34you can find a trade partner so drs that brings us to jackson dart who is a minus 350 favorite to be a
01:06:41first round pick dart's draft position prop is 25 and a half that tail portion of tonight's opening
01:06:49round when you look at dart the team that is favored to draft the old miss signal caller is the new york
01:06:55giants at minus 120 of course that's not going to be third overall but again it's the idea of the giants
01:07:01who have the second pick of the second round trying to trade back into the late portion of the first
01:07:07round to go get jackson dart i'm just not so sure it happens i'll take the plus money to the under
01:07:13of the two and a half for the number of quarterbacks in the first round i think we only see two qbs at
01:07:20plus 125 drs your round one best bet is what round one best bet and usually it's like hey let me take a
01:07:29minus 200 to make sure it gets to the window look at all this giants talk this morning for me donnie
01:07:34hates the giants well donnie doesn't necessarily like the giants but he does like money and fun
01:07:38angles to play on the giants like taking a team total to the over which again includes a five to
01:07:43one price that shadour ends up with the new york giants in the first round and again it is a long
01:07:50shot because they would have to make a trade they don't have to hey we have pick number three and 28
01:07:54out there like no you don't you have to trade into it i just think there's smoke where the giants are
01:07:59telling us they love another quarterback man you can't let that get out there right like the
01:08:04who said we like shadour sanders at this point at 21 you gotta keep that smoke light which i do
01:08:10think there's something that shadour in the big apple can be a lightning rod i think the giants
01:08:15would like that drs it feels right now your best bets are either hefty minus money or a big plus money
01:08:21sprinkle so it's not crazy to see those odds i have two the team to draft omari on hampton
01:08:27the denver broncos at minus 110 and a many going under 26 and a half for his draft position prop