Two days after 26 innocent tourists were killed in a terrorist attack in Jammu and Kashmir's Pahalgam, Prime Minister Narendra Modi promised that India would exact revenge on the perpetrators in ways beyond their imagination.
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00:00Good evening, you're watching To The Point. I'm Preeti Chaudhary.
00:04As we speak, the all-party meeting is taking place where the government is briefing the opposition
00:10on the measures, the retaliatory measures that the government has taken and will be taking
00:15when it came down to the Pehergam terror attack.
00:19We're going to get you the latest coming in from the all-party meet.
00:22First up, allow me to take you through the headlines.
00:24Defence Minister Rajanath Singh chairs all-party meeting in Parliament Complex.
00:32Rahul, Kharge, Ovesi, Sule and other opposition Nita's attend.
00:36Leaders observe two-minute silence for Pehergam victims.
00:42Prime Minister Modi's big war cry against terror gives Mitti mein mila denge warnings,
00:47says we'll identify, track and punish every terrorist.
00:54India will, death ke dushmano ne, haarat ki aatma par, hamla karne ka dushahas kia.
01:05Ab aatankiyo ki, bati khuchi jameen ko bhi, mitti mein milane ka samay aagaya hai.
01:14India ups the diplomatic ante against Pakistan, seeks global solidarity.
01:21MEA briefs envoy of US, UK, Russia, China, Japan and France.
01:32India issues advisory tells Indians in Pakistan to return immediately.
01:37Rattled Pakistan calls Indus water-packed suspension an act of war,
01:41threatens to hold Shimla agreement in abeyance.
01:44B.S.F. Jawan, who accidentally crossed over to Pakistan through Punjab border,
01:53detained by Pakistan Army.
01:55Constable P.K. Singh was accompanying farmers before he got apprehended.
01:59Is Pakistan celebrating a massacre with a cake?
02:07Cake bought inside Pakistan High Commission.
02:09Man, Karen Cake, he reads question.
02:12High drama outside Pakistan High Commission.
02:14All right, let's take you now directly to the parliament viewers.
02:29The all-partisan meeting has been really shocked by the visuals coming in,
02:34where right before the discussion on the measures, the retaliatory measures that have been taken
02:41and will be taken, where the Pahalgam terror attack is concerned.
02:45All the leaders cutting across party lines observed a two-minute silence to commemorate the memory
02:52and pay homage and tribute to those fallen to terror, 28 of them.
02:57The all-party meeting has now been underway for the last 40 minutes.
03:03All party leaders have paid tribute to the Pahalgam victims.
03:06Like I pointed out, a two-minute silence was observed to commemorate the victims and pay tribute.
03:12It is the Defence Minister, Rajnath Singh, who is chairing this meeting in the parliament complex.
03:19Attending, you can see on your television screen, there is of course Mr. Kharge,
03:24who is the party president of the Congress, LOP, Leader of Opposition, Rahul Gandhi, Supriya Sule.
03:30You have the Ahmadineh Party, you have the TMC, you have the Samajwadi Party,
03:35and even smaller parties like OVC in attendance.
03:38I am joined right now by my colleague Aishwarya Paliwal, joining us live from Delhi.
03:44Aishwarya, what more can you add?
03:49Well, Preeti, one thing that the government at the moment is looking at doing is that
03:53they want the opposition to know exactly what the government will do.
03:56Getting the confidence of the opposition at the moment is the priority of the government.
04:00And also, telling the opposition that the government is not sitting quietly on what has happened,
04:05what the next steps will be, what global leaders have been told.
04:09All those things will be told to the opposition parties.
04:11And obviously, questions that the opposition parties want to ask, those will be answered.
04:15Defence Minister Rajnath Singh will be giving out answers.
04:18External Affairs Minister Aishjashankar will also be speaking.
04:20And Home Minister Amit Shah will be giving replies to all the questions that the opposition parties have.
04:25In fact, let me tell you one thing that the government is very clear about.
04:28As many questions as you want to ask, you can ask.
04:31And all the answers will be given what exactly happened, why did it happen, what is the next course of action,
04:37what the global leaders have been told about.
04:40Everything will be now told to the opposition parties.
04:42And they will also be given a hint of what to expect next, because that is something that the government wants to do.
04:49They want to make sure that the opposition understands how the next few days will pan out.
04:53The government giving out a clear message to the opposition, telling them that we will not let this pass.
04:58And the opposition also, Preeti, we have seen a very measured response coming in from the opposition parties also.
05:03They are understanding that this is an attack on India.
05:05And they understand that at the moment, the best thing to do is to stand behind the government and to give a united front.
05:13Stay with me, Aishwarya, because, you know, what you see on your television screen is a very rare sight.
05:18Something that we haven't seen in the recent past.
05:21And what has brought the opposition and the government together on the same page,
05:26and at least till now, you know, the opposition is making the right noise by saying that we are behind you.
05:32You decide what you need to do.
05:34You confer it with us.
05:35You discuss it with us.
05:36Let's take our feedback and net-net with what the government decides in terms of what should be a befitting payback with no mercy,
05:45when it comes down to Pakistan, should take place with our full support.
05:50There have been political parties in this as well, like the TMC,
05:53which every political party which needs to do it has asked for accountability to be fixed.
05:58And what were the intelligence failures that actually led to a massacre and the bloodbath that took place at Behlgarh.
06:06Joining me is Piyush Mishra.
06:07Piyush, it's interesting because the government has not just invited all big political parties,
06:13but also personally called smaller parties like AIMIM to come join and confer, debate,
06:22and give what their opinion is in the current context.
06:28Well, absolutely, Preeti, and what we are now learning is that the briefing is still underway
06:33and all political parties have been invited irrespective of how many members are there in one of one political party.
06:41So, as we are speaking, the government is briefing all political parties about the horrific Pelagam terror attack
06:49where the government is most likely briefing about the steps so far those have been taken
06:54and what the government could take.
06:57So, after this meeting, opposition could get a hint as to how the government is moving ahead and dealing with the situation.
07:03Remember that the government's briefing could certainly be on the lines offered, Prime Minister today said.
07:08Prime Minister was in Bihar where he made it very clear that terror will not go unpunished.
07:14We will ensure that every terrorist is tracked, hunted and punished.
07:19Also, the handlers of these terrorists are not spared.
07:23Remember that message has also been sent out to the global community by the Prime Minister
07:27and he has thanked to all the countries who are standing in solidarity with India.
07:35So, as we are speaking, the meeting is underway.
07:37Most likely, the opposition political parties would also be asking government some questions
07:43because this incident is also glaring at few unanswered questions
07:48which includes why security personnel were not present there
07:52when so much tourists had congregated there at one spot.
07:58But security failure could also be one of the issues which opposition could raise during this meeting.
08:05So, all questions are being answered and the government is briefing as to how it is looking forward
08:11to deal with the situation and so far what steps the government has raised.
08:15Well, you know, there is a difference as well and one for our viewers to get a larger understanding.
08:20The government is approaching this very, very sensitively this time and Piyusha, weigh in on this
08:25because when Pulwama had happened, a huge chunk of the opposition, which included the Congress,
08:30constantly said, we were not taken into confidence.
08:33You never spoke to us on what you were going to do.
08:35And the government has clearly learned from that
08:37and the government has made this move where you've had the top leadership.
08:42You've had Rajanath Singh, the Defence Minister, who is chairing this meeting,
08:46speak to each and every political leader of the political outfit invited,
08:51saying that bring in your suggestions, come and let's take a decision together.
08:56Like I said, this is a rare sight in Indian democracy, at least in the recent parts
09:00where we've seen the opposition and the government come together on the same page.
09:05And, you know, with that, you know, Piyusha, that lesson learnt during Pulwama,
09:09handling the situation very, very differently, very sensitively this time.
09:13And the question that I touched on earlier, Piyusha, is to pick up the phone
09:17and invite smaller parties which usually would not have found representation in an all-party meeting
09:23because there's a protocol which demands a certain percentage of vote across the India
09:27that enables you to find a seat on the table.
09:31But doing so, because you had, you know, a Southdeen Ovese who felt disgruntled
09:37that his political party was not invited.
09:39Amit Shah, the Home Minister, picked up the phone and said,
09:42you might come in late, but come, they want you there.
09:49Well, absolutely. All political parties have been invited, including AIMIM, Sassoon Ovese,
09:54and he is also part of this crucial meeting.
09:56Remember that he's the man who was saying that the government should have so far
10:01taken the strongest possible action on what is the government doing,
10:04why there is a failure of security apparatus there at Pelgum.
10:08So he was asking few questions.
10:10So to clear all his doubt and tell him as to what the government is doing
10:14and what all could government do, the government is now briefing.
10:18And this meeting is being chaired by Union Defense Minister Rajna Singh
10:21and other ministers who are also part of CCS.
10:24Interestingly, Preeti, we are seeing that every member which is part of Cabinet Committee on Security
10:29is present there, which is briefing the all political parties,
10:34which also includes some Defense Minister Rajna Singh, Home Minister Amit Shah,
10:38Foreign Affairs Minister S.J. Shankar, Finance Minister Nirmala Sitharaman.
10:42Remember that Nirmala Sitharaman was not present in yesterday's meetup
10:46because she was in the U.S. and she has also cut short her visit
10:49and she is now back in the country.
10:51Despite not being present there, she is also there, you know, as the representative of CCS.
10:56So we are now seeing as to how the top leaders of the government,
10:59all four ministries, those are there on rise in a hill,
11:02all of them in unison are briefing all political parties
11:06and telling them what the government has so far done and what it is planning to do.
11:11Also important to highlight that just before this meeting started,
11:15we also saw all political parties, including government leaders,
11:19paying two minutes of condolence to the victims who have lost in life.
11:23Right, I appreciate both of our reporters.
11:25You have Aishwarya and Piyush who are tracking this meeting very closely.
11:28We are going to continue to go back to the both of them.
11:30Those visuals there that you just saw was that two-minute silence as a tribute,
11:34as homage to those who have fallen to terror two days ago.
11:37Twenty-eight lives snuffed out because of terror viewers.
11:42Twenty-eight families who will not know what life is anymore.
11:46All of that.
11:47A quick, you know, we are going to cut in to our big debate, which is coming up.
11:52Stay tuned.
11:52A terror attack that left India stunned.
12:12A powerful, tragic image of a grieving bride becomes a symbol,
12:24a terror attack that will forever leave an indelible mark on India's conscience.
12:30Agony, anguish, anger, as terror claimed 28 lives forever altering the trajectory of 28 families.
12:47A grief-stricken India, plots retribution, revenge and retaliation.
13:00India responds with five stern actions.
13:05Suspension of the Indus Waters Treaty.
13:08Closure of the Attari-Waga border.
13:12Revocation of all Pakistani visas.
13:14Diplomatic downgrading.
13:18Military and security operations continue.
13:22The Prime Minister today from Bihar, in a rare English address,
13:26aimed at a global audience, gave a chilling message to Pakistan.
13:30Today, from the soil of Bihar, I say to the whole world,
13:44India will identify, track and punish every terrorist and their backers.
13:58We will pursue them to the ends of the earth.
14:09India's spirit will never be broken by terrorism.
14:15Terrorism will not go unpunished.
14:19Every effort will be made to ensure that justice is done.
14:28The entire nation is formed in this resolve.
14:34Everyone who believes in humanity is with us.
14:39The home minister, defence minister, held an all-party meet to apprise the opposition of developments.
15:03The opposition, though, with government on actions taken, raised questions of accountability and what was also a massive intelligence failure.
15:13The
15:43Revenge and retribution, but also internal accountability on intelligence failure.
16:06Let there be no mercy.
16:07Let there be no mercy.
16:37Aadil, you know, there has been certain apprehensions the Congress has raised, but one thing I would
16:53reckon this time around is different because the Congress was very vocal the last time
16:58we had faced the terror attack of Pulwama that you were never taken into confidence.
17:03The opposition was never taken into confidence.
17:06The government this time very sensitively has handled the situation.
17:10The opposition has been briefed, is being briefed as I speak.
17:14There is a sense of, you know, togetherness in this, Aadil, and I hope the Congress understands
17:21that.
17:21We are all distraught.
17:27Twenty-eight precious lives have been lost, and these voids can never be filled for the
17:33families.
17:34On behalf of the Congress Party, we send our heartfelt condolences to the bereaved families,
17:41and we stand with them in this hour of grief.
17:46Coming to your question, today we stand with the victims of this reprehensible act, and we
17:53stand with the Indian state.
17:55The perpetrators must be brought to justice.
17:59Use the might of the Indian state.
18:02Track them and bring them to justice.
18:04This is the demand of the Congress Party.
18:07Number two, it is evident that there has been a monumental intelligence failure.
18:15Otherwise, during the tourist season, these attackers, these terrorists come, they carry
18:22out this murderous plot, and they get away.
18:25So, therefore, the government of the day, since this is a union territory, the police,
18:30the intelligence agencies, come under the union home ministry, obviously must course-correct
18:36and analyze this, that where did they go wrong, and how did this failure happen?
18:41But on the larger issue, I think it is time.
18:44This is an attack on the soul of India, and we stand with the government.
18:49We expect that justice needs to be done.
18:52But just one caveat, and I say this, I say this with responsibility, and I say this as a
18:58citizen of this country, we urge the BJP not to use this extremely unfortunate tragedy for
19:06political gains.
19:07This is a moment of national solidarity.
19:11This is a moment of national mourning.
19:14Please do not use this unfortunate tragedy to advance political interests, and kindly rein
19:21in your trolls, your proxy trolls on social media, who are using this incident to further inflame
19:29passions, who are using this to further widen trust deficits.
19:33I urge them to rein these people, because they are doing a disservice to India.
19:38Okay.
19:39All right.
19:40I want to bring in Saeed Zafir Islam, and, you know, Adil, I'm going to circle back to you.
19:44And the question I'd ask you is, because there has been a certain amount of retaliation measures
19:47that have already taken place, is the Congress happy with that?
19:51What is the Congress looking to add in that all-party meeting today?
19:55I'll circle back to you on that, but I want to bring in Dr. Saeed Zafir Islam.
19:58Dr. Islam, you know, the government's approach this time, especially to the opposition, is
20:03very, very different.
20:05There were charges that the government worked on its own without taking the opposition into
20:09confidence during Pulwama.
20:11You're not doing any of that.
20:12This time around, you know, which is heartening to see, this is a rare sight in Indian democracy,
20:17sadly so, where the opposition, as well as the government, are coming together on the
20:21same page discussing something which is of utmost national importance in favor of the
20:27people and without politicizing it.
20:29So in that sense, I would reckon, you know, India's looking at it with a lot of heart at
20:34a time where India's plunged into grief.
20:36But Saeed Zafir Islam, is the government willing at some level to also answer the questions which
20:42will be raised today, where it comes down to intelligence failure, where it comes down
20:46to security lapses, where it comes down to basic accountability, sir?
20:50Well, first of all, I will definitely appreciate the responsible behavior of the opposition
21:00parties because they are behaving responsibly.
21:04They are not making a statement which is totally unwarranted statement under the circumstances.
21:08And all the, whether it's CWC or whether individually, the comments which has been made, with the
21:13exception of Robert Wadra, all of them, and one more gentleman from the Congress party
21:18in Maharashtra.
21:20With the exception of these two, I'm sure I can make a statement with conviction that everyone
21:26away from these two people have made a statement which is in line with all the political parties
21:32have made, and in line with the situation which all the political parties should have been
21:36made, making the kind of statement which was warranted from them.
21:39So, and they are standing with the government, government is standing with them.
21:43Since they are not making any political statement, it is important for you to also understand,
21:48and the people by and large will understand that we have always, we have always attempted
21:52to engage the opposition party so that constructive discussion, deliberations, and debate can
21:58take place, and a decisive action can be taken with the support and the coordination and with
22:03the consent of the opposition parties as well.
22:06Today, it's very heartening to see that all the political parties have come together.
22:11They are united because it is not individually a political party or a government has to take action.
22:23It is the country which has to take action.
22:25140 crore people are watching all the political parties, including the government.
22:30We are a responsible government.
22:31We want to engage every political party, irrespective of whether they have one member or two members
22:35or many members.
22:36But we want to tell them that you please ask any question you have, irrespective of whether
22:45it is sensitive or insensitive.
22:46But you ask within the forum, because this is a forum to discuss, instead of discussing
22:51outside making a statement to the media, this is a forum to discuss every single thing, whether
22:56it's related to security or whether it's related to anything you want to ask, because they have
23:01been told, all the members who are attending from the political parties, they have been told
23:06to please ask as many questions as difficult questions, because government is willing to respond
23:11to every single question they will pose.
23:13But what is more important, that instead of making a statement in the media, you have
23:17to understand that the government of the day have made it very clear under the leadership
23:22of the Honourable Prime Minister that we will take a decisive action, this action which has
23:27never been taken, unprecedented action which will be taken by the government.
23:33And we will teach a lesson to the preparators of terrorism and the people who are harboring
23:41terrorism in the country, and people who are including handlers and slipper sales will
23:45be punished, will not go and punish something with the Honourable Prime Minister.
23:48You know, I'm glad, because for the first time, like I said, even in this debate, it's not
23:52that the opposition and the BJP spokesperson are going after each other.
23:55It's heartening to note, sadly, it's come under the circumstances it has.
23:59But if there has been a certain amount of responsibility that the opposition is functioning under, which
24:04it is, there's also a certain amount of responsibility that the government is doing so, which we haven't
24:09seen, at least with the interaction between each other in the recent past.
24:13And I gave you that example of Pulwama, where the opposition felt belittled that they were
24:17not even taken into confidence on the measures that would have been taken.
24:20You know, I'm going to circle back to the both of you.
24:22I want to bring in our other two guests into this conversation.
24:24Shine IMC leader Shiv Sena, who's part of the ND Alliance, standing firmly with the BJP.
24:29Anish Gawande spokesperson, NCP Sharad Pawar faction.
24:32The NCP Sharad Pawar faction, Anish Gawande, has also raised certain issues that they want
24:38addressed in this particular meeting.
24:40But all in all, does the Sharad Pawar faction feel content with the kind of retaliatory measures
24:48that were announced yesterday, where it comes, you know, one of them, which is the Indus Water
24:54Treaty in abeyance, and there are other very strict measures.
24:57What is it that today the NCP, because your party is being represented by Supriya Suleim,
25:03this meeting would add?
25:04Preeti, I want to start off by saying that this was an attack on Hindus, but in response
25:10we must unite as Indians.
25:12Supriya Thai has been categorical in saying that our response to this tragedy must be as
25:18a country, and we stand with the government.
25:20I respect the Prime Minister for taking the front foot and making the statement that he did
25:25today.
25:26Supriya Thai was the first to call for an all party meeting, which will happen this evening,
25:29and she was also the first to call for a special parliament session on this issue.
25:34We must treat it with the utmost urgency, and we must leave aside differences that we have
25:39today to unite as a country across religion, caste, class, and every other division that the terrorists
25:46who attacked Fehlgaam want to sort of incite and divide us on.
25:53All right, okay.
25:55I want to bring in Shaina NC into this conversation.
25:57Shaina NC, you know, and I want to say for the benefit of our viewers as well, because why
26:01this is very different than what we've seen, you know, in the past.
26:04Because usually to find space on the table, every political party would have needed a certain
26:09amount of percentage in terms of vote share across the country to even represent their party.
26:14True.
26:15But that hasn't happened.
26:16And that is also, you know, in a way, you know, great, where you've had the Home Minister
26:21who picked up the phone, because we know the likes of Asadi Novesi wanted space on the table,
26:25wanted to give their input, and he's invited them, even though, you know, traditionally as per
26:30protocol it would not have happened.
26:31So there's a lot of, with what we are seeing, the kind of solidarity is great.
26:36But on the other side, Shaina NC, the government should be prepared to openly not just speak
26:42with the opposition and give their input, but also publicly come out and fix accountability.
26:47Because, yes, we need to look outwards.
26:49We need to be united in solidarity in a befitting response with no mercy where Pakistan is concerned.
26:55But we also need to fix what's within.
26:57And that is and has been a massive security lapse and intelligence failure.
27:02Firstly, Preeti, let me please say that my heart goes out to the 28 families.
27:08And as we all pay Shraddhanjali, I'm glad that India is united.
27:13The political class is united.
27:15And at the all party meeting, there hasn't been any kind of petty politics.
27:19If at all, the government briefs all the opposition parties on the befitting reply that the NDA government, under the leadership of Prime Minister Modi, will give.
27:30And I'm so glad that today, when he spoke on the soil of Bihar, he also addressed the international world community, saying that revenge is only part of India's befitting answer.
27:44This is a moment of national solidarity, and we won't spare any terrorists, irrespective of them being insulated by Pakistan or being given any kind of international funding.
27:56Them and their counterparts will all be finished.
27:59And when the Prime Minister says it, he does it.
28:02I think that everyone who believes in a sense of humanity and believes that their people have been wronged.
28:10If you take a state like Maharashtra, we have lost five citizens of our state.
28:15Our Deputy Chief Minister, Eknanji Shinde, did go to Srinagar.
28:1965 people were brought back on the first special plane, then 184 on the second and on the third continue.
28:27So I think every single leader in every party and every part of India is as proactive.
28:33And this is a great, great trajectory in the days to come.
28:37You have statesmen like Prime Minister Modi and Amit Shahji that lead from the front going to find out exactly who plotted how these perpetrators entered and what is going to be an all-time solution.
28:52I only want to make a limited point.
28:54You know, there are certain people who are leading from the front.
28:58Let's have faith in them because this is the elected government of the day who have obviously done an exemplary job and oppose abrogation of 370.
29:08Unfortunately, this is the only, only incident.
29:12But let's not forget Pulwama and let's believe, Preeti, that in the days to come, the befitting answer that India gives will make every Indian proud.
29:21And that can only be the true Shraddhanjali to the 28 lives.
29:25And this is not about Hindu versus Muslim.
29:28This is not about petty politics that certain parties are playing.
29:32Certain leaders have chosen European holidays over being here on ground.
29:36That's their prerogative.
29:38We are here to just say, whether it was Dr. Srikant Shinde who was present at the all-party meeting today
29:44or Eknat Ji Shinde who had personally gone to Srinagar, our party is committed to stand with Prime Minister Modi and to be with him in every sense.
29:53Ms. Sinti, I don't know, you know, who's that swipe on and who's taken a European holiday.
29:57You know, I really don't know.
29:58But we'll maybe come back to you on that.
30:00But I want to go back right now to the Congress spokesperson in all of this.
30:05Because Adil, you will remember during Pulwama, the Congress had openly come out and said that nothing has been shared with the opposition.
30:11So that's changed this time.
30:13You are being taken into confidence.
30:15Your opinion really matters.
30:16But what is that opinion, Adil?
30:18Along with what the measures that were announced yesterday, what is it that the Congress hopes to contribute and would like the government to retaliate?
30:27Because till now, there is no tactical measure that has been taken in terms of military intervention.
30:32Well, really, firstly, before I respond to your question, this is not the time for political rhetoric.
30:42This is not a time to pat back or to make your political leader look larger than life.
30:49This is not the time.
30:50This is the time for national solidarity, for national mourning, and to come up with a coherent plan to teach these perpetrators of terror a lesson that they never forget.
31:04I was not, in my previous piece, exalting my leader.
31:09So I would urge the other panelists, this is not a time for a false sense of bravado or to sound more loyal than the king vis-a-vis your own leader.
31:18This is the time when all of us must come together.
31:21As far as the responses are concerned, there are, I'm sure, a bookie of options which are available to the government.
31:28I'm not privy to all that.
31:30Mr. Chidambaram, today, in fact, in the Indian Express, has said that you must pursue an effective option which teaches and teaches them a lesson
31:40so that we can dismantle this terror industry which exists and which continues to bleed India.
31:47Coming to the larger point, I think nobody can run away.
31:51Even the most ardent supporter of the current dispensation also cannot run away that there has been a major security and intelligence failure.
32:03And somebody needs to look into this.
32:06Okay.
32:07I heard the families, the bereaved families, in fact, one of the bereaved family members was saying for 30 minutes nobody came to attend to the person who has shed his life.
32:19There have been glaring loopholes and, you know, I will.
32:23I just want to move on, Adil, and I'm going to, apologies, I'm cutting you short, but I want to move on to the BJP spokesperson, Dr. Islam, because most of the families, and it must be said out loud, because while we are looking at a befitting response and we must, while we are looking at security operations, what must be touched upon was, yes, you know, this valley was inaccessible.
32:43It was only accessible by foot or on a mule.
32:48It took over two hours for a medical ambulance to actually reach those who were shot.
32:54Some of them died hours later just because of loss of blood and something that has been echoed by the family members who sat besides them and actually saw life leave their loved one drop by drop because they were not attended to in time.
33:09All of this needs to be taken into consideration, Dr. Islam.
33:13Well, when an incident like this, which is terrible by all standards happens, then obviously every political party, and more importantly, the government will definitely examine and prospect and will definitely try to understand what went wrong.
33:34So that is, that is something which definitely every government does, and this government will also do, but making this kind of statement, this juncture is, I think, is totally unwarranted.
33:44Definitely, it is something which government will do, the army will do.
33:48The army will find out what is, why and how they have been able to reach and target those innocent civilians.
33:54That is something definitely will be answered to the political parties and all the people of India.
34:00But what is more important at this juncture, to teach a lesson to the terrorist organization, the terrorists, the handlers and the sleepers.
34:10And that is something which is a priority.
34:12Dr. Islam, you are bang on.
34:14Nobody is faltering from that.
34:16You know, you are bang on on that.
34:18But an incident like this, which we hope will never repeat, ever, also teaches us to be prepared.
34:26Air ambulances, protocols in that, all of that needs to be in place.
34:29One more quick question, Dr. Islam, before I go across to the others.
34:32In the midst of all of this, even yesterday, where we had, you know, the Cabinet Committee on Security meet, the missing person in all of that,
34:40usually it is the chief minister of the state in which this, you know, terror attack has occurred.
34:47There was no presence of Dr. Omar, of Mr. Omar Abdullah in that.
34:52And that in itself seems to suggest that the government didn't want the chief minister of a state in which this entire operation has actually taken place.
35:03I understand it's a union territory.
35:06One understands that security is in the hands of the government and the lieutenant governor.
35:10But, you know, the government could have included the CM.
35:13Well, the Honorable Home Minister visited immediately after the incident to Srinagar,
35:20had a very detailed discussion and chat with the incumbent chief minister.
35:26And whatever they needed to discuss, they have already been discussed between them.
35:31Whatever he had to brief, he had already briefed the Honorable Home Minister.
35:35And I think it was important for the Honorable Home Minister to meet him when he was in Srinagar.
35:43Whether attending or not attending meeting is not that important because his input was there with the Honorable Home Minister.
35:49And that is something which was important.
35:51It is important for him to be stationed in the state where his presence was more warranted than attending a meeting where his input was already given.
36:01Okay. But many would feel that, you know, maybe he should have also been apprised on what is the action, the retaliatory measures that were taken in place.
36:09And maybe he was informed of that later.
36:11Just ten seconds, sir.
36:13See, as far as he needs to be apprised, I must tell you, I convey through your channel to every citizen who is watching this program, that the government is briefing everyone.
36:26Everyone who needs to be briefed is being briefed.
36:28I mean, you only said that when the government had decided initially that those political parties who have at least four or five MPs will be invited for this meeting.
36:39But OSE, Sahab, made a statement that I also want to attend the Honorable Home Minister.
36:45No, you're right. Like I'm saying, there's a lot of rights that are taking place right now, but that doesn't mean that what went wrong should not also be broached.
36:54I'm running out of time, but I would like to give 20 or 30 seconds each, both to the NCP, Sharad Pawar faction and the Shiv Sena.
37:02Ma'am, China NC, ma'am, make your final comments.
37:06I just want to make two points. One is that every strategy need not be exposed.
37:13I mean, we have to have faith in the government of the day and our prime minister has always led with great exemplary courage in multiple situations.
37:21And let's not forget Pulwama.
37:23So I have absolute faith, as does every citizen of this country, that this is the elected government that we have reposed faith in, and they will make sure that things are on track.
37:34Punishment is given not just to the terrorists, but also those who are being insulated in our neighboring state, because this is a very strong government.
37:42So let's have faith and belief, and as we stand united, let's also understand united we stand, divided we fall.
37:49Fair point. So let's continue to have this viewpoint in the days to come.
37:53Haneesh Gavande, 30 seconds, sir, make your point. Final submission.
37:55Preeti, as we speak, unfortunately, Kashmiri students across the country are facing the brunt of the tide of sort of emotions that are flowing through the country right now.
38:07In Prayagraj, they are being asked to vacate homes. In Punjab, they are being sort of targeted at universities.
38:16I encourage the government to also ensure that every single Indian across the country feels safe, and that they too are protected in the days leading up to any action that is taken.
38:27You know, fair point, and that's exactly the story that we're going to be on later, because all of this, viewers, if you're watching this and you're, you know, standing on the sidelines and sharing is misplaced anger.
38:37You know, let's let that be. I appreciate all three of you, four of you rather, who have taken the time out and joined us this evening.
38:42Thank you there, and the story is important, because if not all of us, even if it is a clutch of us who are venting their anger of what has really happened in Behlgam,
38:53in ways that they shouldn't be need to watch this. After the terror attacks on tourists in Behlgam, which has claimed 28 lives, the Jammu and Kashmir Student Association has now received a statement claiming Kashmiri students are being attacked all across the country.
39:11In Prayagraj, Uttar Pradesh, to even Chandigarh, Punjab and Haryana. Now, the Jammu and Kashmir Student Association alleges that Kashmiri students across India are being harassed, abused, assaulted.
39:24Students feel threatened, insecure in the aftermath of the attack. The situation, particularly grim in Uttarakhand, videos being circulated show Kashmiri Muslim students being given an ultimatum to leave their city.
39:38All of this because, you know, if Kashmir is ours, Kashmiri students, India is theirs and they can choose to study wherever and what has happened and transpired in Behlgam has absolutely nothing with them.
39:51Most of them standing in solidarity with us with the same amount of anger, agony and angst. Listen in to the reactions.
40:01Please do not punish our innocent Kashmiri students.
40:14So, they leave Kashmir, they leave the confines of their homes and they try to manage their education abroad.
40:27So, all of our country will appeal to them that you please keep them.
40:33So, I also appeal to the Prime Minister Modi sahab and I also appeal to the Home Minister that please take care of Kashmiri students, Kashmiri traders,
40:42which are all of our traders in India, students, please keep them.
40:48I want to cut across to Meir Farid because, Meir, you know, even the Chief Minister of Jammu and Kashmir had issued a statement to not attack Kashmiri students who are studying all across the country.
40:59You have the Chief Minister of Chandigarh who has also come back and says that he will safeguard their safety.
41:04But where all across the country are reports coming in from?
41:15Well, yes, in fact, reports are coming in from various parts.
41:18There were reports of an incident in Jammu also, in Chhattisgarh, Jharkhand and Haryana and several other places.
41:26You have a student, Jammu and Kashmir Students Association, which keeps speaking to students and bringing in their issues to the government.
41:35And I spoke to one of the members and he said that they're getting complaints, videos from various parts where Kashmiri students claim that they are being targeted.
41:44And, in fact, they warned that the government should intervene and at the highest level tell the governments of these states to intervene and ensure that safety of Kashmir students is ensured.
41:56But, Preeti, if you look at this incident, the way it has been orchestrated, the Pahlagam terror attack, the way they have planned it to ensure that they whip up communal passions, ensure it becomes Hindu and Muslim.
42:12It was not just a plain terror attack.
42:14They had come with a mission to have, the bigger mission was to ensure that there is a communal flare-up and Kashmiris who are there in different parts obviously will be targeted.
42:26So, whoever is planning to do this will obviously be playing in the hands of the people who planned this attack, the terrorists.
42:33And that's why Sena mines need to come in and they need to understand that this was not just a plain terror attack that was directed at killing tourists.
42:43But they wanted that the game plan was bigger to ensure two, three goals they achieved through this terror attack.
42:49And one of that was obviously to further ensure the communal divide and then also if Kashmiris are targeted, the alienation will increase here.
42:59So, people need to understand that and then act accordingly.
43:03Well, you're right there because of all the goals you said, this is at least in our hand that we don't self-goal.
43:10You know, anger vented on Kashmiri students is not going to get us absolutely anywhere.
43:15All you're doing is playing into the hands of the terrorists who want exactly this, a communal divide.
43:21We're going to let it be. Thank you, Mir, for joining us.
43:25A quick break, but we do leave you with visuals.
43:29Least we forget, India right now plunged into mourning and grief.
43:34Yesterday was a black day, not just for India, but for 28 families.
43:40Their lives changed forever as they knew it. We leave you with these.
43:44I've been doing this all day, but it was like a single generation of failures.
43:53It's like a family of merchants and 800 people in the entire world.
44:01They Catalan, who was at least 25,000 times in the military.
44:04They're all in the military. They're all fighting against civilians.
44:08They're all in the military. They're all in the military.
44:09They're all in the military. They're all in the military.
44:11Please...
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