NYPD Blue Season 2 Episode 17 Dirty Socks
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00:00His wallet was on the floor next to his pants and jacket.
00:17No money, some credit cards, licenses, Jay Markowitz.
00:22Markowitz for men?
00:24I've seen this guy on TV.
00:26We got portleys, we got longs.
00:28He did his own commercials.
00:30Oh yeah?
00:32Now we know what he did for breakfast.
00:34He probably took it first.
00:36She's got three in the upper torso, two in the side for him probably when he was heading for cover.
00:40Jeez, how could people screw on that kind of racket?
00:44Super said she'd been here two months.
00:47She just got divorced.
00:48She asked for an extra deadbolt.
00:50Said her ex was pissed off, didn't want him busting through her door.
00:54I guess it was still on the Super's to-do list.
00:56I can't hear a damn thing here.
00:58Let's see what I find.
01:01You got a ladder down on the fire escape.
01:03Where's Metaboy?
01:04He started the canvas.
01:06He's talking to one of the neighbors.
01:10Give me the list of names for the re-canvas.
01:12I'm going to check the alley.
01:16Yeah.
01:17Yeah.
01:24You see, Miss Novak, most of the other tenants were out.
01:27That's why it's important that we talk to you.
01:30Yes, but I doubt that I can help you.
01:32Oh, boy.
01:34These plant allergies I got are really kicking in.
01:37You didn't see anything out in your alley earlier?
01:41I didn't know.
01:43Here's our detective Simone.
01:44Hey, Bobby.
01:50I'm having quite an allergic reaction here.
01:52You think you could finish up?
01:54Yeah.
01:54Go ahead, go ahead.
01:55You're okay?
01:55I think my throat's closing down.
01:57I'm Degra Simone.
02:07Joyce Novak.
02:08Were you acquainted with the female victim?
02:10She lived across there in the alley.
02:11Alicia Glover.
02:12No, I told the detective.
02:13I don't think I knew her.
02:18Jay Markowitz.
02:19That name sound familiar to you?
02:21He was visiting Miss Glover.
02:25No.
02:27You know, her apartment had fresh flowers in it.
02:31Kind of like these right here.
02:33Hyacinth.
02:35Huh.
02:36She could have bought them here.
02:39I just didn't know her by name.
02:46Could I ask you a favor, detective?
02:50Would you mind checking the security of my back door?
02:53I live here alone.
02:55Well, we really don't think it was an intruder that did these crimes.
02:59Looks like there was a personal motive.
03:01But, excuse me, I'll check it for you.
03:04I think you're fine here.
03:19Uh, if you're worried, maybe a dog might not be a bad idea.
03:28Perfectly one that barks.
03:30Yeah.
03:31So did detective Medivoy ask you if you've seen any unusual activity out there in the alley?
03:36Anyone moving quickly?
03:38Yeah.
03:38Yeah, he asked.
03:39Uh-huh.
03:42But you didn't see anything.
03:46No.
03:50All right, Miss, uh, Novak.
03:53If you can remember anything that relates to the homicides or, uh, you hear anything that
04:00you think might be helpful.
04:02Well, I'll call you.
04:06That'd be great.
04:07Can I offer you some flowers for your home security advice?
04:14No, they just kind of sit around in the squad room all day.
04:19Thanks.
04:19Thanks.
04:19Thanks.
04:37Thanks.
04:38Thanks.
06:07Jay Markowitz, that guy that sold men's clothes on TV.
06:10We got portly's, we got long's?
06:12Yeah, that's the guy.
06:14Female was Alicia Glover.
06:17It was her place.
06:19Super said she'd had a rough divorce.
06:21She was afraid of her ex.
06:23We got a line on him?
06:25Arnold Glover, he's on vacation. Be back tomorrow.
06:27It's Markowitz, had two Master Cards, an American Express, and a Visa Gold.
06:33We got calls out on them.
06:34Anything off canvas?
06:35Six workmen outside. Nobody saw anything.
06:38You know, I interviewed this woman that seemed a little hanky.
06:41She had a pretty good view of the alley behind the building.
06:44I'm going to try her again on re-canvas.
06:46All right.
06:50Hey, James.
06:52Yeah?
06:53I see you signed up to represent the precinct in the boxing tournament.
06:56Yeah, I boxed in tomorrow in school.
06:59I thought I might give it a shot.
07:00Yeah, I boxed a little Golden Gloves.
07:02Is that right?
07:03Yeah.
07:03You going to enter?
07:04Nah, I don't need a bar of trouble.
07:06We ought to work out some, you know, spar a little bit.
07:10Let me know when.
07:15I'll remember that.
07:25Detective!
07:27Hello!
07:29John, how's it going?
07:31Is this the PAA's test?
07:33That's it right there.
07:35John Irvin, Andy Sibowitz.
07:38Good to meet you.
07:40Yeah.
07:41How's it going?
07:42Detective Simone and I know each other from one police plaza.
07:45Who's that, sir?
07:46I'm temping until your Miss Abondando returns.
07:50John, you know, you look like you got a little sun here.
07:55It went right through the sunscreen.
07:57The Gay Officers Action League is open to civilian assistance.
08:02We were on a junket in Puerto Rico.
08:0515th detective squad.
08:07One moment.
08:09Detective, it's for you.
08:11Thanks so much.
08:14John, I never got to tell you how much I appreciated you sending that card when my wife died.
08:19I know what it's like to lose people who are close.
08:23How are you doing?
08:24I'm okay.
08:25Thanks.
08:28I'm always unsettled the first day in a new job situation.
08:32It's good to see a familiar face.
08:33You'll be all right.
08:34You okay?
08:35You okay?
08:36Yeah.
08:42What's going on, Andy?
08:45Some people on the candy store in Brooklyn.
08:49I worked there when I was a kid.
08:51Went to school with their sons.
08:54Someone stuck them up.
08:56Mo wasn't there, but Sonia got killed.
09:0076-year-old woman.
09:01They shoot her in the chest.
09:03Where was this?
09:05Park Slope.
09:07The 6-4.
09:09I knew this family since I was a kid.
09:12You want to go over there?
09:13Yeah, because we're coming on this.
09:14Yeah, I'd like to.
09:15The family's pretty upset.
09:23Lou, that's the woman I wanted to re-interview on those homicides.
09:30Hey.
09:30Detective Simone.
09:33How's it going, Miss Novak?
09:35Do you have a moment for us to talk?
09:37Sure.
09:38Come on in, let's see.
09:43I'm not proud of what I had to tell you, Detective.
09:46What's that?
09:47I wasn't honest at my apartment.
09:50I did see something that could help with your case.
09:54I'd like to know what that is.
09:57I hope you understand.
09:59I was frightened.
10:02Sure I do.
10:03I'm glad you had second thoughts about coming in.
10:05I was in the yard about 9.15.
10:11I gather that's just after the murders happened.
10:13That's right.
10:14I heard someone running down the alley.
10:16I looked up and I saw a man.
10:18Did you get a good look at him?
10:19I think I got a pretty good look.
10:21He was about 5'11", thick eyebrows, clean shaven, a wide nose, like it might have been broken
10:31sometime.
10:32That's an excellent description.
10:34Did you get a chance to see what he was wearing?
10:37No jacket, a white shirt that wasn't tucked in, and he was carrying something in his hand,
10:47like a small brown paper bag, which he threw into the trash can.
10:54So, do you think that this might be helpful?
10:56I think it'll be very helpful, Miss Novak.
10:59And again, I'm really glad you came in.
11:07I'm really glad you came in.
11:37She's gone, Andy.
11:45I'm sorry, Dad.
11:49Yeah, it's over here.
11:51It's Andy Sipowicz, Dad.
11:55Andy.
11:57I'm sorry for your loss, Mo.
11:59What did I tell you when you were a boy, Andy, if someone came in with a gun?
12:04Empty the register.
12:05If they can carry the register out on the back, that's fine, too.
12:10When I would leave you working in the store, didn't I tell you that?
12:13I guess Sonia wouldn't give it to him.
12:17She wouldn't give him the money.
12:19That's what must have happened.
12:22What do you got?
12:22I was supposed to be working.
12:24I had shortness of breath.
12:27Here's what we got so far.
12:29I'm going to go talk to this detective a second, Mo.
12:32It's 41 years.
12:33We were never held up.
12:35We know these kids, since they were able to walk, we give them an extra scoop, let them
12:39read the comics and nothing.
12:40Later on, they looked out for us.
12:42I mean, every other place got hit, but not us.
12:45Dad, let Andy go talk to this detective.
12:48Excuse me just a second.
12:55Where's Ernie?
12:57He's lying down.
12:58You'll see him later.
12:59All right, let me know.
13:00How's it going, detective?
13:05What do you got?
13:06No witnesses in the store.
13:08One guy in the street saw a male come out in a ski mask.
13:11You got in the car?
13:12Yeah, I ran around the corner.
13:14Guy thought he was around 5'10".
13:16The crime scene lifted some prints off the counter.
13:18We might get a hit off of those.
13:19There's a methadone clinic.
13:21A block and a half down might have some candidates.
13:23Yeah, I know.
13:24I'm going to check it out.
13:25I spoke to the one son, David.
13:27I guess the other one's on the station.
13:29Ernie, yeah.
13:30If he's up to it, I'd like to bring the old man in.
13:36You know, whatever background I can get.
13:38I'd like to be there for the interview.
13:40Yeah, absolutely.
13:41Whatever you want.
13:47Used to work in that store, huh?
13:51Yeah, when I was a kid.
13:53Yeah, that's what the son said.
13:56Listen, I'm going to follow them to the station house.
13:59All right.
13:59This woman could turn it for us, Lou.
14:14We found out from his office that the victim's ex-husband left for Atlantic City two days ago.
14:19So maybe he slips back today with a clean piece, pops the exit and a new boyfriend,
14:24heads back to the beach, comes back here in time for work tomorrow morning.
14:30Description the woman gave fits her ex-husband.
14:32Got his photo from the DMV.
14:34Description's on the money.
14:35D.A.'s coming in.
14:37D.A.'s coming in.
14:37I'm with a formal statement while it's fresh.
14:39It should look good to it, Jerry.
14:41Mm-hmm.
14:42Detective Simone seems very nice.
14:54Detective Simone is a gentleman.
14:57We worked in the same building several years ago, and he was going through a very difficult time.
15:02His wife was very ill, but he still always had a friendly word whenever we crossed paths.
15:07Is his wife better now?
15:09I don't know.
15:10She passed about a year ago.
15:15D.A. Costas, I'm here to take a statement.
15:19How's it going?
15:20Good.
15:21This is Ms. Joyce Novak.
15:23Sylvie Costas, how do you do?
15:25If you don't mind, I'd like D.A. Costas to hear what you saw.
15:28All right.
15:28My office likes to interview important witnesses as early in the process as possible.
15:33I understand.
15:34That way your memory is fresh, and we keep continuity with the police.
15:39There's something I didn't tell you, Detective.
15:43Mm-hmm.
15:46That's fine.
15:47We'll get all the information down.
15:50In terms of what is on your statement, Ms. Novak, the man was 5'10", thick eyebrows, clean-shaven, with a crooked nose.
15:58A white shirt, no jacket, and a brown paper bag in his right hand.
16:03You have a very specific memory.
16:05That's good.
16:06How far away from him would you say you were?
16:09About 40 feet.
16:11Do you ever wear glasses?
16:13No, I don't.
16:14That's the A answer.
16:17Excuse me.
16:18What's the additional information, Ms. Novak?
16:21I think the man saw me.
16:26Hmm.
16:27What makes you think that?
16:28Well, I should say I know he saw me.
16:31He looked me right in the eye as he ran past.
16:34I just wouldn't let myself admit it because it scares me.
16:37Well, how did he react when your eyes met him?
16:39Did he stop?
16:40Did he say anything?
16:41No, he just kept running.
16:44Is there anything else that could be pertinent that you haven't told us, Ms. Novak?
16:50No, that's everything.
16:52I know I should have said this before.
16:57Do you think I'm in danger?
16:59I want to talk to ADA Costas for a minute, okay?
17:02And I'll break back.
17:05Thank you for your cooperation, Ms. Novak.
17:08As the case develops, I'm sure we'll see each other again.
17:11All right, babe.
17:20You said on the phone that she didn't originally come forward?
17:23Yeah.
17:24You think that when she did come in, saying she was seen would be the first thing that she'd talk about?
17:29Yeah.
17:30Well, that doesn't discredit her, but it does worry me a little.
17:33Her description of the bag fits how you found the gun?
17:36Yeah.
17:37Paper bag and the trash can.
17:39Look, I, uh, I think she's probably reliable.
17:44Saying she was seen, she may be looking for a police guard.
17:49Think she's got someone in mind?
17:54All right, keep me posted.
17:55Okay.
17:55All right, Ms. Novak, uh, you're finished for now.
18:09We appreciate you taking the time.
18:11I thought you wanted to talk to me about whether I was in danger.
18:14When did I say that?
18:16Just before that woman left.
18:18Oh, you mean the ADA.
18:20Oh, yeah, that's right.
18:21I believe that you're safe in your apartment.
18:23But if you have a friend or a relative that you'd rather stay with, that'll be fine.
18:29I thought the police might give me protection.
18:34Is that what you want?
18:36I'd prefer it, yes.
18:38I really have no one to stay with.
18:40Fine, we'll, uh, get you a motel room.
18:43If that's what you think is necessary.
18:45We'll get you a room, we'll get you a female detective to stay with you, all right?
18:51And do you think that's sufficient precaution?
18:54Oh, yeah, absolutely.
18:55They do a lot of this.
18:59It was absolutely, absolutely.
19:00We were doing more on lottery tickets than on the ice cream.
19:17I mean, sometimes there was a line, you'd think it was Radio City.
19:21Somebody went out of the store last year with $25,000 ticket.
19:25So after that, it became the lucky place.
19:28Mr. Nyberg, would there have been checks on money orders in the register?
19:31I don't know.
19:32There's always a few money orders.
19:34We wouldn't have checks till Friday.
19:37So you're looking for something to trace?
19:39What about a gun?
19:40Did you keep a gun in the store?
19:42Just a bat behind the counter.
19:45She must have tried to take that to him.
19:47Next to bat, they fell in line next door.
19:49Savino, you've had that bat since you swept the floors.
19:55Excuse me a second, Mr. Nyberg.
19:58Detective, can I talk to you?
20:00No sprints or for the countertop.
20:09Four hits from BCI.
20:11Three guys with narcotics collars.
20:13I'll check those against that methadone clinic.
20:16I know who this other guy is.
20:17This James Mantlo.
20:19Used to call him Jimmy Sox because his feet stay.
20:23Take it, you can read it.
20:24Don't really fit, does it?
20:26Bad checks.
20:26Ernie.
20:31Hey, Andy.
20:32I should have figured you'd be here.
20:34I'm so sorry about your mother.
20:36I know.
20:37Ernie Nyberg, Detective Savino.
20:40I'm sorry about your mother.
20:41I appreciate you coming in.
20:46She's gone, Ernie.
20:48Yeah.
20:51What are we going to do?
20:52What are we going to do?
20:53I don't know, Pop.
20:54Why didn't you give them the money?
20:57I don't know, right?
20:58Are you done with my father?
21:00Yeah.
21:01Mr. Nyberg, you're going to try and think for me.
21:04None of those kids were mad at us.
21:07Just if anyone comes to mind.
21:10When was the last time either of you saw Jimmy Matlow, Jimmy Sox?
21:15When he moved out of the neighborhood.
21:16God.
21:18You remember Jimmy Matlow, Moe?
21:21No.
21:22Jimmy Sox, Dad.
21:23I don't remember him.
21:25The kid with the stinky feet.
21:27Well, he doesn't remember.
21:28What difference does it make?
21:30They found his prints on the counter.
21:33Thank you so much.
21:33Jimmy Matlow.
21:35Jimmy Sox?
21:36Yeah.
21:37He was in the store three nights ago.
21:40Remember I was watching the store for your pop?
21:43Jimmy Sox came in.
21:45He was in the neighborhood.
21:46He stopped in to say hello.
21:47Hello.
21:48I got to get back.
21:51I'll keep in touch with this through Detective Sabino.
21:55We're going to keep Detective Sipowicz posted right along.
21:58Thanks for seeing us through this, Andy.
22:00Yeah, I'm sorry.
22:01I'll call you.
22:03Moe.
22:05You'd be strong for Sonia, all right?
22:07That's what she would have wanted.
22:10She was talking about you the other day, Andy.
22:13She said she cut your name out of the paper.
22:24Take care of your dad.
22:25Yeah, he'll be all right.
22:30Excuse me a second.
22:36She's going to reach out to this Jimmy Matlow before these people leave the station house.
22:41You didn't like the younger brother's answer?
22:43It's probably okay, but I'd like to talk to Matlow before him and Ernie get a chance to get their heads together.
22:51All right, I'll call you when we pick him up.
22:53Yeah.
22:53You want to hit the gym low?
23:06Yeah, no, I got to get home.
23:08I'm going to get those gloves back on you.
23:10Yeah, all right.
23:11Good night, Bob.
23:12Hey, James.
23:16So, Lesniak is sitting on your witness?
23:20We'll look to grab up this Arnold Glover tomorrow morning.
23:23When he gets back from Atlantic City.
23:25What do you make her change in her story?
23:28Well, the only thing was the guy seeing her.
23:30She stayed straight on everything else.
23:32Changing her story and the guy seeing her is pretty big.
23:35Yeah.
23:36I don't want to get down the road with this woman and have her wind up telling her she knows where Jimmy Hoffa is.
23:41Well, I don't know.
23:42Well, that would be a nice case to clear.
23:45Good night.
23:46Good night, Lieutenant.
23:50So how did it go today?
23:52Oh, and fine, Detective.
23:53I feel very settled in.
23:55Yeah, that's good.
23:57Good night, guys.
23:57Yeah.
23:58Good night, Detective.
23:58Good night, Bobby.
24:01Of course, you don't want to get too settled in.
24:05No, I understand Miss Abandono is expected back.
24:08You probably don't want to be using her clerical materials or so forth.
24:16No, we're all very particular about that kind of thing.
24:20Yeah, because she's definitely expected back.
24:23Okay, I'll be meeting you.
24:25I don't want to get down.
24:28I don't want to get down.
24:58I don't know, Glover.
25:04What's up?
25:06Uh, there's been an accident involving your ex-wife.
25:09So go down to the station house.
25:10We'll fill you know what we know.
25:12I'm not interested in what you know.
25:14And I don't care what happened to my ex-wife.
25:16Well, let's go to the station house anyway.
25:19I was in Atlantic City.
25:21I got nothing to say to you guys.
25:22Look, I don't know.
25:24What do you want to do?
25:25You want to go like a gentleman or a scout?
25:27Huh?
25:29You want me to cuff you out here and throw your ass in the back of the car?
25:32My lawyer is Doris Kaplan.
25:34A Kaplan, Moser, and Garth.
25:35Yeah, we know Doris.
25:36Come on, let's go.
25:38Come on.
25:38How'd we do on this junkies?
25:52I'm just going to talk to the last one, the F2 alibi it out.
25:57Guy knows an interview, too.
25:59Jimmy Matlow.
26:01There's no warrant.
26:02We couldn't grab him up till he left his house this morning.
26:05But I doubt he's talked to this Ernie, because his phone's been disconnected for two months.
26:09What's he think it's about?
26:11We told him his plates got reported in a car accident.
26:14Hey, D.
26:23How's it going, Jimmy?
26:25I don't know what's going on.
26:26They got me in here for some traffic accident I don't know nothing about.
26:29Well, you're in this precinct now.
26:32Why don't you talk with James, Detective?
26:34Maybe you can clear this up.
26:36Yeah, okay.
26:38All right.
26:43How's it going, Andy?
26:44How you been?
26:46Okay, Saks.
26:48Socks.
26:50The only person still calls me Socks.
26:54I've been okay recently.
26:55I had a few speed bumps with the law four or five years ago.
27:00This here, I don't know anything with this about.
27:03Jimmy, when did you see the Nybergs last?
27:06The Kennedy saw people?
27:10I'll tell you, it's been a while.
27:12How long?
27:15What's going on, Andy?
27:16What's this about?
27:17Answer my question.
27:20I'm going to guess in two years.
27:23Nobody in here for a traffic accident?
27:27What the hell am I in here for, Andy?
27:30Sonya Nyberg got shot in a stick-up, Saks.
27:35You're kidding me.
27:37She's dead.
27:40Who have you spoke to?
27:42More and the boys, they must be sick.
27:45Your fingerprints are on a counter in that store.
27:49Hey, Andy, your fingerprints are probably on a counter from when we was kids.
27:53Mm-mm.
27:53Those prints aren't from when we were kids.
27:57Sonya wiped that counter down every night.
28:00Oh, come on, Andy.
28:01You're talking about Sonya and Moe.
28:03You're talking about David and Ernie.
28:05It's the people I know, people I care about.
28:07I don't like how this is going, Jimmy.
28:09I'm going to tell you the absolute truth and explain why I didn't previously.
28:20I was in there three nights ago.
28:24Now, listen to me.
28:25Listen to me.
28:25This is exactly why I was reluctant to say, I got a record, Andy.
28:29You can't before to get in trouble on things.
28:32Why would you get in trouble for saying you were in that store?
28:42Hmm?
28:42All right, all right.
28:55This is the absolute truth.
28:58I did stop by there three nights ago to say hello to Ernie.
29:03That's how my prints probably got on a counter.
29:05Why'd you stop?
29:06I saw his car out front.
29:09How do you know what kind of car he drives?
29:17Oh, my God.
29:23Oh, my God.
29:30Did you go meet him three nights ago and come back yesterday, Sachs?
29:35Can't be in my mother's eyes.
29:37I swear, I'd never do anything like this.
29:41You remember my catcher's mitt, Sachs?
29:43You're the catcher's mitt.
29:44What are you talking about?
29:46I don't remember my new catcher's mitt showing up in your locker at school.
29:51Eddie, what are you bringing that up here for now?
29:53I never knew what I got in there.
29:55You swore on your mother's eyes then, too, hmm?
29:58Something happened in that store and you were involved in it.
30:02Look in my eyes.
30:05Now, you tell me.
30:07You are gonna tell me.
30:09Let's get it over with.
30:19Good morning.
30:22Good morning.
30:23Where's Detective Simone?
30:24In the locker room.
30:27The locker's unit's safe.
30:28Good morning.
30:32Good morning.
30:37Is she going to a party afterwards?
30:39She's kind of a strange broad.
30:41Yeah?
30:42She seems pleasant enough.
30:43And then you get a big Leona Helmsley hat.
30:47Hmm.
30:47Well, we brought the suspect in.
30:49James and Greg are setting the lineup now.
30:52We'll see how it goes.
30:53Thanks for sitting with her agent.
30:55No problem.
30:56How's it going today, Miss Novak?
30:58So you brought in the suspect.
31:00We're gonna run a lineup, see if you recognize him.
31:02Come on in here and have a seat.
31:05I'll explain to you how it goes.
31:06If you're wrong about flowers, they'd brighten up your desk.
31:11I'll bring you in some.
31:15So, um, there'll be six people sitting in a room.
31:21You'll be looking for a one-way mirror.
31:23They won't be able to see you, so you can get as close to the window as you need to.
31:26I'll be in there with you.
31:27Good.
31:27So, my boss, the ADA, and a defense attorney.
31:32Now, I'm not looking to coach you here, Miss Novak, but I need...
31:34You don't start calling me Joyce.
31:36I'm out of here.
31:39Okay.
31:41I'm not looking to coach you, Joyce.
31:43But I do need you to understand the legalities, where if a witness says something like, uh,
31:48this might be the person, or maybe that was him, legally, that's as good as saying I didn't recognize anybody.
31:55Are we fans or buts?
31:56No, we're fans or buts.
31:57That's right.
31:59We should be set up to go in a little while, uh...
32:02Can I get something to drink?
32:04Is the coffee here as yummy as that instant in my motel room?
32:09Yeah, those places really aren't the red sun.
32:13How do you think it?
32:14I'll come with you.
32:16I'll fix it myself.
32:18You, uh, sleep all right last night?
32:20First pajama party in a while.
32:22Hmm.
32:22Take the lesionics more?
32:24I thought maybe you'd know.
32:29No, uh, we've never guarded a material witness together.
32:37So am I the only person who saw your suspect?
32:40I'm not allowed to answer that.
32:41I know these people were shot.
32:47Would it be better if instead of seeing him carry a bag, I saw him carrying a gun?
32:58Did you see him carrying a gun?
33:00You know, I might have seen a gun if it might make it easier for you.
33:04Joyce, the only thing that's going to make my job easier here is you saying the absolute truth.
33:09Lying could jeopardize this whole case.
33:11Don't be angry with me.
33:12I'm not angry.
33:13I'm just trying to help.
33:14Well, that doesn't help you making things up.
33:16You know, I put myself to considerable trouble here.
33:23I know you have, and I appreciate that.
33:25It might be considerable trouble and risk continuing to cooperate.
33:34Yeah.
33:39Well, that's why I want to keep this as straightforward as possible here, Joyce.
33:42Joyce, okay?
33:44No embellishing on anything.
33:46Here.
33:49Oh, uh, we got kafilos, Bobby.
33:51Uh, we're ready when you are.
33:52Well, I'm not sure I'm ready.
33:54Just give us a second here, Greg.
33:57Sure.
33:59What's up?
34:00You want to take them in?
34:03I'm not sure I want to do this at all.
34:05First, let's try and calm down, okay?
34:07I'm perfectly calm.
34:08I'm just not sure I want to put myself through all this.
34:12All right, I'll tell you what.
34:21Let's, uh, put the lineup off for a little while.
34:25Why don't you and me go and, uh, have a little lunch?
34:30Try to sort all this out.
34:33And then if you feel up to it afterwards, we can run the lineup.
34:40All right.
34:40Let's sort it out.
34:46Okay.
34:48Let me just talk to my boss, and then we're out of here.
34:57Okay.
34:58Here we go.
35:00Drew, can I talk to you for a second?
35:02I'll be in the coffee room.
35:11We got more problems with this woman.
35:13She changed the story again?
35:16She offered to.
35:18Now, look, I know she saw this guy.
35:20I know she can pick him out.
35:21I've just got to hold her together.
35:25All right, so I want to stall the lineup.
35:27Uh, you know, take her for some food.
35:28If she's psycho, I don't want you positioned where she can lie about what you did or said.
35:33I've got to take her myself.
35:36That's what she's looking for?
35:38I can handle it.
35:39She's not that bad.
35:42Drew.
35:42She's our only witness.
35:58Miss Novak was saying this lineup has been postponed.
36:00Yeah, we're having a little trouble finding the Phillips.
36:04So I, uh, I thought I'd take Joyce out for a quick lunch, you ready?
36:07Mm-hmm.
36:16Yeah.
36:18Thanks.
36:21Ernie Nyberg's on his way up.
36:26Hey, sure you want to do this?
36:29I look like I want to do it.
36:32I'm just saying, maybe I should take the interview.
36:35No, I gotta do it.
36:40Hey, Andy.
36:42Detectives.
36:43How's it going, Mr. Nyberg?
36:46What do you need to talk to me about?
36:50Let's go in there.
36:59My dad's lousy.
37:00I want to get back as soon as I can.
37:04Yeah?
37:06You're worried about your dad?
37:08You're worried about him?
37:09We got to figure how to take care of your dad, Ernie, because Sox gave it up.
37:19What are you saying?
37:20What do you mean, what am I saying?
37:23Sox gave it up.
37:25Him doing the stick-up and you putting him up to it.
37:28I don't know what you're talking about.
37:30You're going to stay in there and you're going to lie to me.
37:36I know you didn't want your mother to be hurt.
37:42You get ready to tell me the truth.
37:45Then we got to figure out how to keep your father alive when he hears about this.
37:50I don't know what you're talking about.
38:20You know, I would have sprang for a sit-down.
38:26I like hot dogs.
38:29The Umbrella Café.
38:32Hmm.
38:34Just sit over there.
38:37Thanks, Maureen.
38:38Okay.
38:40I'm glad we got out.
38:46You know, there's some things that I wanted to tell you today.
38:50I really couldn't say in a station house.
38:54In terms of some feelings that I may have.
39:00What kind of feelings?
39:06Joyce, when I'm in a case,
39:08no matter how I may begin to feel about somebody on a personal level,
39:11as hard as that may be for me,
39:15I've got to put those personal feelings to their side.
39:18In other words, they don't allow you to have a personal life?
39:21Well, you've got to understand that.
39:22If the defense, if they prove that there's a relationship between a witness and a detective,
39:26then your credibility's shot.
39:28So is mine.
39:28Well, they might suggest collusion.
39:32Collusion.
39:33Exactly.
39:36My boss, he's already uncomfortable about the two of us.
39:41When he senses something,
39:44he's thinking about taking me off the case.
39:46I don't want that.
39:47I don't want that either, Joyce.
39:51That's why we have to keep this on a professional level.
39:56You know, this whole thing,
39:57it'll be over inside of a year.
39:59So you do have feelings for me?
40:05I won't talk about my personal feelings at this point.
40:09Okay?
40:11I don't want to presume what yours are.
40:13While the case is going on.
40:14While the case is going on, that's right.
40:16But afterwards?
40:17Well, afterwards, that's a whole different ballgame.
40:20Then I can say how I really feel about you.
40:26All right.
40:28I understand.
40:30Do you?
40:31Yeah.
40:35How do you feel about the lineup?
40:39You ready to go back in here?
40:41You'll be with me?
40:43I'll be standing here right next to you.
40:59What am I going to do, Andy?
41:07What am I going to do?
41:10Maybe you should just put a bullet in my head.
41:13Ernie, let's get through this.
41:16Sit down.
41:16Look, my father was supposed to be there, all right?
41:28My father was supposed to be there.
41:31He always said he'd give it up.
41:34I don't know if you remember that.
41:36Yeah.
41:37If they could take the cash register on their back, let them take it, he says.
41:41But he had pains in his chest.
41:51So mom made him go home.
41:53And so it was her behind the counter.
41:57She was not supposed to be there.
42:01I don't know why Sox had a loaded gun.
42:05He said it was to back people off, and he slipped when she swung the bat.
42:08Well, that is not good enough, okay?
42:11That's no excuse.
42:13There was not supposed to be violence.
42:17They were going to take the store, Randy.
42:21I owed Shylocks.
42:24I couldn't go to my folks again.
42:27You could rob them?
42:28Four or five thousand would have backed them off.
42:32You've got to write it down, Ernie.
42:38So, is this some kind of a manslaughter type thing, and some kind of an involuntary type thing?
42:51Write up a statement, Ernie.
42:53They'll figure out a charge.
42:57Now, on your dad.
43:01You want to talk to him if they'll let me take you over there?
43:04I can't face him.
43:06I can't see him.
43:09You tell him what happened.
43:13Yeah.
43:14Yeah, all right.
43:20Put on the charge.
43:23They might go for something involuntary.
43:25Okay.
43:36Do you recognize any women, Snowback?
43:48Yes, number four.
43:50Where do you recognize number four from?
43:53I saw him yesterday at about 9.15 a.m. running through the alley outside my apartment.
43:58He had a brown paper bag in his right hand, and he threw the bag into a trash can.
44:03Everyone but number four can go.
44:08Everybody but number four.
44:11I'd like to see my client.
44:13Go ahead.
44:13Okay, thank you, everybody.
44:19Go now.
44:20Right this way.
44:24Has Detective Simone walked you through the next few days?
44:27Whether or not they deal, you'll have to testify before the grand jury within 72 hours.
44:31Do you think they might deal?
44:32No, it's possible.
44:34From my point of view, the more quickly this is resolved, the better.
44:37I can understand your feelings.
44:38You'll hold them in custody now?
44:41Yeah.
44:42Then I'd like to move back to my apartment.
44:45I think that makes sense.
44:47I don't have a car.
44:48Can Detective Simone take me home?
44:51Yeah.
44:57Here we go.
44:58Here we go.
45:28Come to arrest me, Andy?
45:42Make me go to the funeral home?
45:44Mo, a few things have developed.
45:49With who killed her?
45:51Jimmy Matlow.
45:53We found his print on the counter.
45:55Jimmy Matlow.
45:58He did it.
46:06Ernie's talked to me, Mo.
46:09He said he'd put Jimmy up to it.
46:12We had to take Ernie into custody.
46:14Okay.
46:14It was the gambling.
46:27It was the bets.
46:30Mo.
46:31I want you to know that Ernie came to me.
46:38He came forward on his own.
46:43He did?
46:46He never wanted this to happen.
46:50What will they do to my son, Ernie?
46:52He's locked up.
46:57Forever?
46:58We'll never get out of jail?
47:00It's not settled yet, Mo.
47:02For all his life, people did for him.
47:05That's why this has happened.
47:06So it's not his fault, right, Dad?
47:09Because everyone did for him his whole life.
47:12This isn't his fault, either?
47:14He killed Ma.
47:16He didn't pull the trigger.
47:18Ma's dead.
47:20David.
47:22I know you want to take care of your dad now, right?
47:25And maybe, uh, help him lie down.
47:42Let's go home.
47:44Come on.
47:48Why don't you give me the keys?
47:51I'll close the store.
47:55I won't go to the funeral home yet.
48:07No one's asking you to go to the funeral home, Dad.
48:12I won't see Ernie yet.
48:15All right.
48:16All right.
48:17Whatever you decide.
48:20Or if I do see him,
48:21Don't ask me to forgive him yet.
48:25I won't.
48:38Yeah, this all looks okay, too.
49:03Thanks for the ride.
49:06Sure.
49:09So can I be your chauffeur at the grand jury, too?
49:14You're hired.
49:17I'm hired, huh?
49:19You know one of my best qualities?
49:22What's that?
49:24I know how to keep a secret.
49:32We're here alone.
49:35I won't tell if you won't.
49:36We can't do this, Joyce.
49:38Why?
49:39Don't you think you can trust me?
49:41No, it's not that.
49:42Well, do you think I'd get you into trouble?
49:45Accused you of something if you didn't do what I wanted?
49:47You think I'd blow your case?
49:50But we're not going to do anything here.
49:54All right?
49:56Nothing's going to happen.
49:57And I need for you to understand that.
50:04I need for you to work with me on this.
50:06I just...
50:07Look, I got to walk you over.
50:08Wait, wait, wait.
50:09No, no, I got to walk you over.
50:09I'll work with you.
50:15We'll find a way to work it out.
50:21Good.
50:22That's good.
50:24Don't go yet.
50:25No, I will.
50:26No, just a second.
50:27Can I put that on my desk?
50:41That's what it's for.
50:44Yeah, that's great.
50:50That's great.
50:51So I'll, uh, I'll talk to you later then, huh?
50:57Good.
51:00I'll let you know about the grand jury.
51:11Yeah, they have some TV.
51:14Are you speaking in?
51:16Oh, my God.
51:21What's going on?
51:28How's your, uh, Brooklyn situation?
51:32It's done.
51:33How's our Manhattan situation?
51:35Uh, Detective Simone's witness made an ID in that double homicide.
51:39I think he's in the locker room.
51:41Not yet.
51:45FBI is wrong.
51:51Hey, how's it going?
51:56I'm going to do a four-to-one makeup for the day.
52:01That case went down.
52:04That dead woman.
52:10These are your friends in Brooklyn.
52:12One of the boys set it up.
52:15One of her sons.
52:16He set up a stick up and it went bad.
52:21I'm sorry, man.
52:23That homo out there said you collared up.
52:28What a head case my witness is.
52:30Oh, yeah.
52:32Yeah.
52:33Horny, mean.
52:36Three quarters nuts.
52:38I tell you, you meet her on the outside, you think she was a kid's.
52:41Yeah, this is a great chap.
52:44Get to see people at their best.
52:46If this family had to deal with a cop, Andy, they're probably glad it was you.
52:57There are a few enough things you'd like to keep how they were.
53:01A candy store would have been one of them.
53:07Good night.
53:12Good night.
53:12Good night.
53:16Is Detective Simone gone?
53:31Yeah, I just woke you up.
53:33He's left.
53:34Can I have another detective help you?
53:38No, I can't give that information out.
53:41Uh, you can try him here tomorrow.
53:44He's being in 84.
53:47All right.
53:53Personal call.
53:54Good night.
54:06Yeah.
54:11Good night.
54:17Good night.
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