Kent On Climate - Wednesday 11th October
Catch up on the latest environmental news from across the county with Abby Hook.
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00:02 - Hello and welcome to Kent on Climate live on KMTV.
00:18 I'm Abbey Hook and in this show we discuss
00:20 all things related to environmental issues in the county.
00:23 We ask how climate change is impacting Kent,
00:26 what communities are doing in the county to tackle it,
00:28 and how you can help at home.
00:30 Each week I take a deep dive into a new environmental issue
00:33 and I'm joined by expert guests.
00:36 Well in today's show we're talking about
00:37 sustainable mushrooms, kids on climate,
00:40 and how our busy bees are under threat
00:43 from an invasive hornet species.
00:45 But first tonight, a Whitstable business
00:48 is trying to change the game by teaching people
00:50 how to grow pink, gray, or even gold mushrooms
00:54 in a way that's sustainable.
00:55 Urban Pharmit is urging people across the country
00:58 to turn to urban farming, which they say
01:00 is an ecological way of having control over your diet.
01:04 But as thousands struggle with the cost of living crisis,
01:07 will they opt for these grow your own kits
01:09 or look for a possibly cheaper alternative?
01:12 Mahima Abedin has been finding out.
01:13 We've all heard of growing your own vegetables,
01:17 but have you ever thought of growing your own mushrooms?
01:20 Urban Pharmit in Whitstable looks to introduce people
01:23 not only in Kent, but across the country
01:25 to the world of urban farming.
01:27 The company's grow your own mushroom kits
01:29 hopes to encourage a move towards a sustainable society.
01:33 But as the country struggles with the cost of living,
01:36 is this something people can afford?
01:38 So from one of the mushroom kits,
01:39 you're looking at like 1.2 kilos of actual fruit mushrooms.
01:44 So for 20 quid, that is actually very reasonable.
01:48 You would struggle to get 1.2 kilos
01:52 from the supermarket for the same price.
01:53 Once you've had your first harvest,
01:55 you'd be looking at like another second harvest
01:58 or third harvest every like 10 to 14 days.
02:02 It's such a quick turnaround.
02:04 So yeah, I think people do have time to grow mushrooms.
02:09 Yeah, it's like I said,
02:11 it's one of the quickest things to grow.
02:13 Once you've done the kit,
02:14 you will be able to grow mushrooms
02:18 in the same kind of manner, using the same methods,
02:21 but like, you know,
02:22 it kind of gives you the skills to grow your own.
02:25 I think what's sustainable about it
02:26 is kind of educating people to grow their own food,
02:30 reclaim their like food sovereignty
02:32 and like being in control of what it is that you're eating
02:34 and not importing it in from a sea, from abroad.
02:38 Such a rapid growing thing.
02:41 So it's like fascinating to watch,
02:42 whereas usually you have to like wait all summer
02:45 to grow some veg, whereas mushrooms are just really quick,
02:49 really quick and efficient growers,
02:51 given the right circumstances.
02:53 So how do you grow your own mushroom using the mushroom kit?
02:57 Well, there's five different stages.
02:59 You start off with pasteurizing,
03:01 you then mix and incubate for up to three weeks
03:04 and you'll start to see mycelium grow like this
03:07 and eventually it will be ready to fruit and harvest,
03:10 but the kit does cost 19.99.
03:13 Most mushrooms are beige or white,
03:15 but did you know you can grow pink, blue
03:17 or even gold ones too?
03:19 The blue, brown and pink,
03:20 they've got like a real meaty kind of texture.
03:23 They're really good substitutes for meat
03:26 in like vegan and vegetarian dishes.
03:28 Golden oysters have got really delicate caps,
03:32 but you can like fry them up and get them like really crispy
03:36 and then like the white arm oysters
03:38 got like a bit more of a woody, woody flavor to it.
03:41 But it's not just mushrooms for Urban Farmit.
03:43 They hope to expand to other fruit and veg going forward
03:46 in a way that's accessible for all.
03:49 Mahima Abedin for KMTV in Whitstable.
03:51 Well, something that may help the growth of those mushrooms
03:55 is some warmer weather,
03:57 but perhaps it's not so great for our climate.
04:00 Recently, we've seen some particularly unseasonably hot
04:04 weather with high 20s in October
04:05 and it follows of course that sunny September spell
04:08 hitting the 30s.
04:09 But why is this happening
04:10 and what does it mean for our planet?
04:12 Well, we've been asking people
04:13 on the Medway University campus
04:15 what they think of the recent warm weather.
04:18 It's nice having sunny weather,
04:19 but I think it's kind of alarming
04:20 'cause obviously global warming
04:21 and climate change is causing a lot of this.
04:24 So I think it's quite worrying.
04:26 You know, if it keeps getting any hotter
04:27 and the sea levels keep rising,
04:28 then we're not gonna have a planet left.
04:30 For certain, the climate is changing.
04:33 I mean, they said something about the 1.5 degrees Celsius.
04:37 We go above that, then chaos.
04:39 Yeah, I think we definitely need to start doing something.
04:42 But then it's not just our country, is it, either.
04:45 It's our countries.
04:47 Yeah, it's nice.
04:48 It is nice.
04:48 It's unnatural, really, to have it this time of year.
04:51 But yeah, gotta make the most of it while it's out.
04:52 Yeah, definitely got a bit of cause for concern
04:54 'cause we had 40 degree heat in the summer last year.
04:57 We don't really want a repeat of that
04:58 and we don't really want to move the seasons around.
05:01 So I quite like having Christmas indoors with the snow
05:03 rather than being outside with the Australians
05:06 in the barbecue season.
05:07 I suppose that's up for debate, really,
05:08 but I think it's climate change.
05:10 I think it definitely is a cause for concern
05:11 because obviously it's life-threatening
05:14 in terms of the polar bears
05:15 and the polar ice caps melting.
05:18 I think it definitely is a cause for concern
05:19 and action as well
05:21 because at this point it's getting a bit worrying,
05:24 especially when we look at our impact on wildlife as well,
05:26 especially with polar bears and the icebergs.
05:30 And I think it's worrying
05:31 and I think people should be doing things,
05:32 but there's only so much we can do.
05:34 It's nice to have some warm weather,
05:35 but I feel in October it's not that great so far.
05:38 I'm ready for spooky season
05:40 and to be in warm jumpers
05:41 and having hot chocolate right now.
05:44 Well, now a yellow weather warning for rain
05:46 has been issued for Kent.
05:48 The Met Office alert begins at 9pm tomorrow,
05:50 lasts until 11.59 on Friday,
05:53 a warning that travel may be disrupted as a result too.
05:56 Well, joining me on the line now to discuss all this
05:58 in a bit more detail is our Kent weather expert,
06:01 Stephen Wall.
06:02 Stephen, thank you so much for joining me.
06:04 Now, we'll start back with that hot weather.
06:06 What do you make of some of those answers
06:08 some of the people gave us there?
06:09 Yeah, we've been here a few times, haven't we,
06:14 in the last year or so,
06:15 and it just seems every time we get a warm spell of weather
06:20 or a hot spell of weather,
06:22 we're always pushing those near record temperatures.
06:26 And September, an incredible month.
06:28 I think we had something like seven days recorded
06:31 where the temperature was over 30 degrees,
06:33 and that's pretty much continued into October.
06:37 Yeah, 26 degrees again at the weekend.
06:39 It's a very, very high temperature.
06:41 So yeah, I do echo what a lot of people are saying,
06:44 things are really warming up,
06:45 and every time we do, it just gets closer to the records.
06:49 Do you think it could be the same this Christmas?
06:52 I mean, could we be at the beach,
06:54 as we heard in the piece there with the Australians,
06:56 a Barbie on the beach, as you can see here,
06:58 some of the shots at Kent Coast.
07:00 Could that be our 25th of December?
07:02 What do you think?
07:03 Well, you never know.
07:05 I think what year was it?
07:06 I think it was 2015.
07:07 We had a really, really warm December,
07:10 which was something like two degrees warmer
07:13 than the highest ever December recorded prior to that.
07:16 So yeah, every month it seems is at risk
07:20 of getting these records,
07:22 and yeah, you wouldn't rule out a cheeky 16 degrees
07:25 or something on Christmas Day, the way things are going.
07:29 And we're seeing this hot weather
07:30 and then spells of rain as well.
07:32 I mean, we've gone from talking about this hot weather
07:35 at the weekend unseasonably,
07:36 and now we've got a rain alert in place,
07:38 just on those rain alerts as well.
07:41 I mean, it's not scaremongering,
07:44 and we're used to rain here in England.
07:46 We expect it a lot.
07:47 But that alert, is it quite a serious response
07:50 to something that we would just usually expect?
07:53 Yeah, so the reason for this particular weather warning
07:57 is really due to the fact that we've had a lot
07:59 of very warm air over the south of the UK, as we know,
08:03 whereas to the north,
08:04 and if we look at Scandinavia at the weekend,
08:07 very, very cold air isn't that far away to the north.
08:10 Now you look at the calendar,
08:11 it is moving into October.
08:13 So there is a boundary between some really quite cold air
08:16 that's now to the north and the warm air that's over us.
08:19 And over the course of the next sort of couple of days,
08:22 that front's going to edge forward.
08:23 And because of the big temperature gradients
08:26 either side of the front,
08:26 that's where the heavy rain
08:28 and the risk of flooding comes in.
08:30 So a very valid warning.
08:33 And also something quite unpredictable
08:34 for farmers as well.
08:35 We know that sowing of seeds and planting
08:38 needs to be done at very particular times of the year.
08:40 But if these seasons start to merge,
08:42 I mean, will we keep seeing spring, summer, autumn,
08:45 or will they just all sort of come into one
08:47 and we will see this happening year after year?
08:49 Well, yeah, it's, you know, the seasons,
08:53 certainly this year they have merged.
08:55 Like there's a bit of a statistical quirk this year
08:59 is the fact that September was the warmest month this year.
09:03 And just slightly ahead of,
09:05 well, just fractionally ahead of June.
09:07 And so June, July, August, and September
09:10 have all been really, really similar.
09:13 And in fact, the first bit of October
09:16 is something like two degrees above May's temperature.
09:18 So yeah, it's still very, very warm.
09:20 And yeah, it's unprecedented at the moment.
09:24 As you said, we've been here multiple times.
09:26 We've been having these conversations quite often,
09:29 you know, this year in particular.
09:31 So how much of an actual concern and worry is this for us,
09:36 looking at that wider picture,
09:37 those questions on climate change and global warming?
09:41 How much of an indicator is this weird and wonderful weather?
09:45 So I think you're breaking up a little bit there.
09:52 Can you still hear me?
09:53 Yeah, well, I'll leave, you know, all that.
09:55 Can you still hear me?
09:57 Yeah, can you hear me?
09:58 Yeah, I just asked this weird and wonderful weather,
09:59 how much of an indicator is it
10:01 that we've got bigger issues in the county
10:04 in terms of global warming?
10:06 (whispering)
10:08 Yeah, so yeah, as we've seen that there are,
10:12 you know, there are factors at play.
10:15 Yeah, can you hear me?
10:17 Okay, we'll leave it there on the weather chat.
10:18 Some weather gods may be interfering with our chat there.
10:22 Maybe it's that rain warning.
10:24 Thank you so much for joining me, Stephen.
10:26 We'll be having you on the programme
10:28 as this weird and wonderful,
10:29 as I keep saying, that weather continues.
10:31 But thank you so much for your time tonight.
10:36 Now, just before we take a quick break,
10:38 it's time for Kent's Climate Conundrum of the Week.
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10:45 Well, the question today,
10:57 what was the hottest October temperature
10:59 for the UK on record?
11:01 The hottest October temperature on record for the UK.
11:06 I was gonna ask Stephen, but I think he's gone.
11:08 I think we've lost him on the line there.
11:09 Well, we'll find out the answer for that after the break.
11:13 Ask your friends, ask your parents,
11:15 see if anybody knows, no cheating, no searching for that.
11:17 But see if you can find the answer to that one,
11:19 the Kent Climate Conundrum.
11:21 Well, coming up.
11:23 Some love them, some not their biggest fans,
11:26 but we all definitely need them.
11:28 That's bees.
11:30 But they are under threat from an invasive species.
11:32 Now, the Asian hornets can destroy a whole species of bee
11:36 in just one day, according to the experts.
11:39 And they have destroyed 75% of the hives
11:42 in one apiary near Folkestone in Capel Lefebvre.
11:46 We'll hear from the owner of those hives
11:48 just after this short break.
11:50 And also, we'll get the answer
11:51 to that very interesting Kent Climate Conundrum.
11:54 I'll see you there.
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15:06 - Hello and welcome back to Kent on Climate live on KMTV.
15:11 Now just before the break,
15:13 I asked you Kent's climate conundrum of the week.
15:16 What was the hottest October temperature
15:18 for the UK on record?
15:20 Well, did you get it right?
15:21 The answer 29.9 degrees Celsius.
15:24 In 2011, the hottest October temperature for the UK
15:27 was recorded in Kent in Gravesend
15:29 with that scorching high of nearly 30 degrees.
15:32 Well, could that record be broken this month?
15:34 Maybe not this weekend, but getting close.
15:37 Well, that's this week's Kent climate conundrum.
15:39 (upbeat music)
15:42 Next tonight, Kent's most celebrated insect is under threat.
15:55 You may have heard that the invasive Asian hornet
15:58 is making its way across the county and country.
16:01 The honeybee predator is believed to have got to Europe
16:04 in packing material that's arrived in France.
16:06 Bug experts say they could wipe out
16:09 an entire species in one day.
16:11 And one beekeeper in Capel de Ferne
16:13 says he's lost more than 75% of his apiary.
16:17 - So we have a apiary up here in Capel de Ferne
16:21 and it's a fairly big size apiary.
16:25 We was pushing over 20 hives coming into the season.
16:29 And obviously we've had a massive reduction.
16:32 Counting today, it's looking between 14 and 16
16:35 that we've actually gonna have lost.
16:37 And watching this morning,
16:38 I've noticed a lot more hulking happening.
16:41 And they're actually picking on one of my stronger hives
16:44 this morning, so that may deplete over the next 48 hours.
16:48 We've got traps up.
16:49 We've got what we class as a kill trap that we use.
16:54 And we drill six mil holes into ours
16:57 to try and allow all other species out.
17:00 The National Bee Unit have done a destruction,
17:03 three destructions down in the bottom of the cliffs,
17:07 which means that we shouldn't now, five days later,
17:10 be seeing any signs of any Asian hornets on us at all.
17:13 But we clearly have Asian hornets.
17:17 Devastation for me is suffering with mental health.
17:21 My bees are my way out of my mental health.
17:24 They help me absolutely massively.
17:26 And people don't actually sometimes realise
17:28 the therapy that comes from them.
17:31 To actually watch, going from 20 odd hives
17:34 down to what I have now,
17:36 and physically watching Asian hornets coming in,
17:38 hulking my bees, grabbing them and flying off with them,
17:42 and leaving my bees in distress,
17:45 isn't for me something that I really wanna watch.
17:47 - Well now, Sheila Stunnell from Medway Beekeepers
17:52 joins me in the studio now,
17:54 because this isn't just an issue
17:55 affecting people all the way down
17:57 in Cable of Fern in Folkestone there,
17:59 it's actually impacting the whole of the county,
18:01 the country.
18:02 - Yes, we've had notifications of sightings
18:05 in Rochester, Maidstone, Canterbury, and all around.
18:10 We actually had a lady from Raynham phone us
18:14 because she thought she'd seen one.
18:16 And we just sent somebody out to put a trap out
18:21 and have a watch.
18:22 - How do those traps work?
18:24 We saw a little bit there,
18:25 but the traps, some of them can take in other insects
18:29 as well and trap them.
18:30 So how is it particular to just capturing the Asian hornet?
18:33 - You will capture other things,
18:35 but you can set the trap up
18:38 so that other insects can get out.
18:41 And we advise our members to check them every day
18:47 so that if we do catch a European hornet,
18:52 we can let it go.
18:55 And that's the biggest problem, really.
18:59 Wasps, you can put a hole in that they can get out from,
19:03 but European hornets are bigger and they get stuck.
19:08 - And people might be thinking,
19:11 why is the European hornet safe
19:14 and we want to sort of save them,
19:15 and why not the Asian hornet?
19:18 So tell us about the difference
19:19 and why the Asian hornet poses such a danger
19:22 in compared to the European hornet.
19:24 - The European hornet will take bees and insects.
19:29 It's predatory, like wasps and Asian hornet,
19:34 but Asian hornet is very aggressive
19:36 and will wipe out, as you've seen,
19:40 colonies of bees in next to no time.
19:43 Because they're an invasive species,
19:47 I suppose they don't have a natural predator here.
19:51 Yeah, they're aggressive and they make huge nests.
19:56 And one nest might have 600 queens for next year.
20:04 That's 600 nests. - Wow, already?
20:07 - You know, that's the problem.
20:09 Every nest is a threat because it's so big.
20:13 - What are you doing to protect your bees?
20:15 How are you looking after them?
20:16 - Well, I put traps with bait in them, a lure in them.
20:21 Wasps and bees, wasps and Asian hornets
20:27 and European hornets like beer.
20:31 And bees don't.
20:33 - Time to team up with a brewery then.
20:36 (laughing)
20:37 - Bees don't like alcohol.
20:40 If you go to a bee colony to inspect it
20:43 and you've got alcohol on your breath,
20:45 you will get stung.
20:46 They're very sensitive to that.
20:49 So we put jam and beer into a lure
20:54 and hope that if there are Asian hornets around,
20:57 they will go into the lure.
21:02 - And Sheila, how worried are you?
21:03 What impact, sort of paint a picture
21:05 of the impact this could have.
21:06 If an Asian hornet was to get your bees, find your bees,
21:09 what impact would this have on what you do day to day?
21:14 - Well, it would be a problem
21:16 because they hawk in front of the colony.
21:18 And by hawk, I mean, they go back and forth
21:20 across the opening to catch the bees coming back
21:25 with a crop full of honey.
21:26 They're not really after the honey, they're after the bee.
21:29 And they rip the bees head off and its abdomen off
21:33 and eat the thorax because that's where the protein is.
21:36 That's where the muscle is.
21:38 And that's what they're looking for.
21:40 Now that will, the reaction of the bees will be
21:44 that they don't come out so much
21:46 because they're scared to come out.
21:48 And then the hive doesn't survive.
21:52 - And it's all to what we've got on the table here.
21:55 This is some of your honey that you create yourself.
21:57 - Well, the bees create it.
21:59 - The bees create it.
22:00 You look after the bees that create the honey.
22:02 Amazing.
22:03 Giving credit where credit's due, I like it.
22:05 - Absolutely.
22:06 - So what sort of, how many jars can you make?
22:09 I suppose, give me a timeframe
22:10 and how many jars you could make.
22:12 And then that could be under serious threat.
22:14 - Oh yes.
22:15 I mean, a healthy colony might produce 100 pounds of honey.
22:19 And we would leave 40 pounds of honey
22:26 on the beehive for the winter.
22:29 The bees need 20 kilos, 40 pounds of honey
22:33 to survive the winter.
22:35 And we can take off any amount.
22:38 I mean, 30 pounds or a hundred pounds, you know.
22:43 And if you're a commercial beekeeper, of course,
22:46 and you get Asian hornet, that's your livelihood gone.
22:49 I'm a hobby beekeeper.
22:50 So if I don't get honey one year, you know, I'm sad,
22:54 but, and all the people that know me are sad.
22:58 (both laughing)
22:59 - And when you bring it in for us too.
23:01 Well, thank you so much, Sheila,
23:03 for coming in and explaining
23:05 what a risk these Asian hornets pose.
23:07 And we'll be sure to keep up to date with you as well
23:09 and see how it develops,
23:10 because it's a worrying situation for our bee population.
23:13 We know how important they are for our whole system here.
23:15 - They are. - Thank you so much
23:16 for coming in, Sheila. - Thank you.
23:17 It's a pleasure.
23:18 - Now, next tonight, 12 child reporters
23:22 racing against the clock
23:23 to cover the biggest environmental stories of the day.
23:26 Well, that's the pitch which got KMTV to the final.
23:29 That's one of the most world's
23:31 prestigious children's TV events.
23:33 A team from KMTV will head to the MIP Junior Conference
23:36 next, this week actually, tomorrow,
23:38 which takes place in Cannes in France
23:40 as one of the five finalists in the pitch competitions.
23:44 They'll be hoping judges from the likes of Disney
23:46 and BBC Studios will be bowled over
23:48 by the brand new reality show called Kids on Climate,
23:51 which our very own Cameron Tucker told me about.
23:54 Cam, very exciting news.
23:56 So tell us all about the event.
23:58 - Well, every year in Cannes in the south of France,
24:01 the MIP Junior Conference takes place,
24:03 and it really brings together the great and good
24:05 from children's media all around the world.
24:08 There's gonna be 700 organisations there,
24:10 including the Disney company, Nickelodeon,
24:14 the Jim Henson company,
24:15 all organisations that are pretty ubiquitous
24:18 on our screens all around the world.
24:20 They're all gathering, studio execs, distributors,
24:23 producers, all to talk about the latest trends
24:26 in children's content.
24:27 So it's really the place to be for children's media.
24:31 - And what a stage for KMTV to be on.
24:33 - Yeah, a little old KMTV there with all, like I said,
24:36 the great and the good.
24:37 So we've actually made it to the MIP Junior pitching final.
24:41 So this is one of the main events at the conference.
24:45 It brings together five finalists from all around the world
24:48 to pitch high potential programmes.
24:51 So KMTV's there with organisations from Brazil
24:55 and from Canada, France, and it's amazing.
24:59 And we're there with the only non-animation pitch,
25:02 and our pitch that we're putting forward
25:04 is Kids on Climate.
25:05 It's gonna be a groundbreaking series
25:07 bringing together children between the ages of six to 12
25:10 to talk about issues around climate
25:12 and in our live newsroom as well.
25:15 So it'll be teaching them broadcasting skills,
25:18 but also teaching them to engage with environmental issues,
25:22 talk to people who are affected,
25:23 see the impact that's gonna be on them,
25:25 because as we know, the main people affected
25:27 by climate change are young people and underrepresented.
25:32 So this is our opportunity using our skills that we have here
25:35 and our track record of children's,
25:37 working in children's TV to help them make a difference.
25:41 - And as you say, Cam, this content is so important
25:44 for children to be involved in climate change
25:46 and to promote that message as well.
25:48 I suppose, why is that something so crucial to this project?
25:51 - I think the best person to quote is Attenborough,
25:53 and he said, "Young people, they care."
25:55 And this is our opportunity to really show that,
25:59 not only by teaching them broadcasting skills
26:02 and showing them how to navigate the world of news
26:05 and current affairs, which is so important,
26:07 but also to engage with the issues around them
26:11 and that it's bringing those massive global issues,
26:15 but to the local.
26:16 And so that is the model that we're gonna be wanting
26:19 to create with Kids on Climate.
26:21 What we do here, we'd love to see replicated
26:23 with other public service broadcasters around the world.
26:26 So that is the massive global mission
26:29 that we see with the series,
26:31 but we've got to start somewhere,
26:32 and that somewhere is gonna be Cannes next week.
26:35 - Well, Cameron will be on his way to Cannes bright
26:38 and early tomorrow morning to pitch Kids on Climate.
26:40 Best of luck to the KMTV team,
26:42 and we'll let you know here on Kent on Climate in particular
26:45 how we get on.
26:45 But that's all for this week's episode of Kent on Climate.
26:49 I'll be back again next Wednesday at the same time.
26:51 See you then.
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