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In Love & Toxic Episode 2 - Blue Therapy
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00:00 # Long hair, scary eyes, have the body shot
00:02 # Do it, something, I'm falling... #
00:04 If he doesn't come to his senses quick, I'm gone.
00:09 I'm not signing no papers. End of.
00:11 I love Laura and I adore her.
00:12 I'm not happy in our relationship. That's why I'm here.
00:14 It's his time to let me know that I'm the woman he wants to be with.
00:17 # Long hair, scary eyes, have the body shot
00:21 # Do it, something, I'm falling... #
00:23 I'll bring you to the therapy. I want you to show respect to my dad.
00:25 I will not bow down to anybody.
00:26 Michael, what the floor? Why are you avoiding the question?
00:28 Just take it down, just take a breather for a second.
00:30 I love her. I'm crazy in love with this girl.
00:32 You're my king. You know I love you, right?
00:34 Love you.
00:35 You can't see any way back from this.
00:38 It's not what you think it is.
00:39 What do you mean it's not fucking what I think it is?
00:40 Are you fucking stupid? Yeah, move away from me, I'm not joking.
00:42 I don't want no parts of this anymore. I'm done.
00:44 I'll bring you to the therapy.
00:57 Right now, I'm mad pissed off with Ray.
00:59 Sean needs to wake up and change.
01:00 I'm not special enough. Are you fucking stupid?
01:02 Bring your sister, bring your mum, bring your friends.
01:03 They'll all be happy to take a position with Ray.
01:05 You are a dickhead.
01:06 So, me and Michael met on Tinder.
01:08 I love Laura and I thought, "I'm not happy in our relationship."
01:10 Music is my priority.
01:12 I've got a dream to chase and nothing's going to stop that.
01:14 I feel like there's a wedge being driven between us.
01:17 It's not your show, it's not about you.
01:19 Like most relationships, we've had our fair share of ups and downs.
01:24 You won't find a better guy than me. I'm the best you're ever going to have.
01:26 My ideal man doesn't even have kids.
01:28 You know how I feel about this, you know I don't trust her.
01:31 What's your issue with me? You're a gookie.
01:33 How am I a gookie? You're fucking stupid, mate.
01:34 You're actually a fucking waste of my time, you stupid fucking bitch.
01:37 The gang's telling you, bro. You don't want to hear it.
01:39 Nobody wants you here.
01:40 I know you're dying to tell Denise what happened.
01:55 You're only saying this cos you know you fucked up.
01:57 You're a stout.
01:58 I'm a street fighter, you know.
01:59 Tunde's been going on like I shot souls in the head or something.
02:02 I just know he can't wait to rush off and go tell Denise about it.
02:05 Denise is ready for you.
02:06 Time to go and tell your story.
02:10 Hello.
02:13 Hello, Denise.
02:15 Welcome back.
02:16 Thank you.
02:17 Make yourself comfortable.
02:20 Sure.
02:21 Hello, Tunde.
02:22 All right. I see we've got the glasses on again.
02:24 Can we lose them?
02:25 Oh, yeah, listen, Denise, man...
02:26 Come on, you know me now.
02:27 I'm not going to go back and forth with you today.
02:30 Thank you. I do appreciate it.
02:31 Thank you.
02:33 Thank you very much.
02:34 So, since we last saw each other, how have things been?
02:36 They're all right.
02:38 Except for Madam Street Fighter over here.
02:41 Don't be shy now. Tell her.
02:43 He's calling me a street fighter because I got into an altercation
02:46 with his friend. Altercation?
02:47 She basically assaulted my friend.
02:48 I didn't assault his friend, Denise.
02:49 His friend always had something to say about our relationship.
02:52 I had to let him know, stay out of my business, and, yeah,
02:55 like, I mean, it could have resulted to me...
02:57 What exactly was happening, then? ..throwing a drink at him.
02:59 A what at him? A glass of water.
03:01 OK, so it's quite major, then?
03:02 I wouldn't say it's major, I would just say I was provoked.
03:04 No, I hear you on that, but it's like, at the same time,
03:06 there was no need for it to get physical.
03:08 So, what exactly happened?
03:09 Well, T runs back to his friends, feels like he has to go and report
03:12 every single detail about me and mine and his relationship,
03:14 and now it gives his friends the right to feel like they can talk
03:17 on me or have an input in mine and his relationship.
03:20 So, obviously, I thought, yeah, I've seen souls,
03:22 he's right in front of me, so I thought, yeah, let me ask him,
03:24 "What's your issue with me?"
03:25 You know what, my friends, they all have their reservations about Maria.
03:28 They just think that she's up to no good a lot of the time.
03:30 Up to no good? She portrays herself in a certain way, and obviously...
03:33 As what? A girl who gave her life to his man?
03:34 They feel like I basically can do better or something like that,
03:37 or maybe she's a new 100%...
03:38 But do you ever defend Maria against your friends?
03:41 Funny. I mean, yeah, I do. Yeah, I do, sometimes.
03:43 But it's like, it's not even about...
03:44 Maria's a strong woman, and she can hold her own.
03:46 If she wants to throw water at a grown-ass...
03:48 ..man... What are you trying to say?
03:50 It's not even about that. It's like...
03:52 ..shouldn't get, you know, physical with a guy.
03:55 If he had punched you in retaliation, what would you expect me to do?
03:58 This guy's a boxer, you know, he's a trained boxer.
04:00 You think I'm going to fight? It'll beat me and you up together.
04:02 See, it's hard, like, trying to maintain a relationship with Maria
04:05 when she don't get along with my friends.
04:07 It's just very, very childish when I don't understand
04:09 why they can't just get along.
04:11 What would you have liked him to have done in this situation?
04:13 Defended me, put his boy in his place.
04:15 "You can't talk to my girl like that.
04:16 "You were in the wrong. Know your place."
04:18 Like, simple. Why can't you ever seem to defend me?
04:21 What man goes around all the time just listening to everything
04:24 his friends have to say?
04:25 Do you think his friends are trying to divide you?
04:28 100%. It doesn't even make sense how they're seeing this.
04:31 They think he deserves better, but they're clearly blind,
04:34 because they're just lying to him.
04:35 I'm the best thing he could ever get.
04:38 Facts.
04:39 MUSIC PLAYS
04:40 What you saying, man?
04:58 Good, bro. It's been a while.
05:00 So, Ray and I haven't spoken since our last session.
05:02 Don't feel great. The session didn't go as planned.
05:04 Right now, I'm going to link up with my boy, Stedge.
05:06 Like, he's a very level-headed person,
05:08 and I need some of his advice, man.
05:09 You're looking good still.
05:11 I am. Trying to be like you, man.
05:12 Come on, man. Look like the drip.
05:14 Looking fresh.
05:15 How's the business and all that?
05:16 Yeah, it's good, man. It's good. Ups and downs, usual.
05:18 What about your side? How's therapy?
05:20 That was a crazy experience.
05:21 Like, Ray...
05:23 ..acted up.
05:25 She came in there, all guns blazing,
05:26 not letting me speak, shouting.
05:28 There was just a lot of words that I didn't expect her to say.
05:31 Like, just degrading me as a man, stuff like that.
05:33 Like, bro, I don't need to be taking all that type of shit,
05:35 because I'm in a relationship. That's stressful.
05:37 Like, who is this person?
05:38 That was one of the sweet, nice, caring Ray
05:40 that I met at the beginning.
05:41 Since then, I've just been down, bro.
05:42 What is it about Ray that, you know, you're fighting for?
05:44 I mean, at the beginning, when I first met Ray,
05:46 I saw potential. Like, she was very caring.
05:49 She was easy to get along with.
05:51 Like, we had, like, such a close bond
05:53 from the first time we started speaking.
05:54 So I think I'm kind of, like, chasing that.
05:56 Plus, I mean, she looked good.
05:58 I mean, she didn't look too bad. She looked good. She looked great.
06:00 Yeah, but is it worth the headache?
06:02 That's what I'm trying to figure out.
06:03 Like, is it really worth all the stress and all of it?
06:06 I can't do it without her, so...
06:08 I think, yeah, obviously, I do care, but I still want to be with her.
06:10 But I think it could probably be more beneficial
06:12 if I sort this all out behind closed doors, to be honest.
06:14 Bro, can't lie. If it's me, I'm not going back there.
06:17 You're the only one who really knows what's right for you.
06:19 So I say you just go with your gut, man.
06:21 Bye, bro. Best of luck. Keep posting.
06:23 No, no, keep posting.
06:24 No hard goals.
06:25 Tell the missus I said hello.
06:27 Bye. Love you.
06:28 After talking to Sedge,
06:30 I don't think I'm actually going to go into the next session.
06:33 # You can fuck with me if you wanted to... #
06:35 I think it's probably best that I call Ray
06:37 and let him know how I feel about the session.
06:39 # I can get them both
06:40 # I don't want to choose
06:42 # And I'm quick, cut a n***a off
06:43 # So don't get comfortable, look
06:45 # I don't dance now, I make money move... #
06:49 Yo, listen, I've been thinking, I can't lie,
06:51 the way you were speaking to me during that session, yeah,
06:53 I'm not having it. I'm not doing this any more.
06:55 I don't like the way you're speaking to me.
06:57 We're not on the same page. I'm done with these sessions.
06:59 It's not working for us.
07:01 We're going to find another way to sort this shit out.
07:03 I'm not here for this no more.
07:04 I'm really finding it hard to understand why you're upset.
07:06 Are you upset because you didn't get your way this time?
07:09 My way? It's not about getting my way,
07:11 it's about you talking to me with respect.
07:13 You can't come in here and not talk to me with respect.
07:15 I was expressing myself to you because you...
07:17 You were talking over me. You didn't let me speak.
07:20 You were being aggressive, trying to walk out.
07:22 I don't want to do all this stupid shit. You can't do that.
07:24 OK, so because of that, you now want to quit.
07:28 Something that you told me to come to, you now want to quit.
07:30 Look, there's no other option because you're not coming to it
07:32 with a respectful mind, an open mind.
07:34 You're basically what enemies know, because we're not on the same team.
07:38 It's either we can fit this by ourselves or we don't do it at all.
07:40 OK, that's fine, that's fine.
07:41 I'm just telling you now, if you don't want to do therapy, I'm done.
07:45 I'm done.
07:46 You're the one that dragged me to that place in the first place
07:48 and then I'm letting you know how I feel
07:49 and now you're calling me to tell me that you're not feeling it anymore.
07:52 I'm telling you now, if we don't go to the other sessions, I'm done.
07:57 I'm done.
07:58 I might dick him. How can this girl give me an ultimatum?
08:01 It's my suggestion anyways.
08:03 I'm the one who brought you here, right?
08:04 And if I think it's not conducive for us to be here anymore,
08:06 then you just agree to it.
08:07 You don't threaten people with ultimatums,
08:08 because that usually doesn't run well.
08:10 Of what?
08:15 I like to travel a lot, T knows this.
08:16 I travel, like, travelling is my thing.
08:18 But for some reason, him and his dumb-ass friends
08:21 always have something to say.
08:22 This girl, she goes on holiday more than me.
08:24 I don't mind, like, but it's just how she moves
08:25 when she's out there that I don't like.
08:26 Do you ever worry about what he's up to when he's away?
08:29 She wouldn't be worried because she can always get through to me.
08:31 She calls me, I answer, you know what I'm saying?
08:32 When she's out of the country and she's got a dumb friend, Amy...
08:35 There's no need, like... It's a myth.
08:37 Get through to her, it's not happening.
08:39 So, if the communication was better, that might help?
08:41 Possibly, yeah.
08:42 I'm on holiday for a reason. I want some me time.
08:44 What the fuck do you mean, "me time"?
08:45 There is no "me time".
08:46 We're together, I call you, they're sopping it out,
08:48 you'd better run to that fucking phone and pick it up.
08:50 Or I'm telling you.
08:51 But do you feel uneasy when you can't get through to her?
08:53 Yeah. And what goes through your mind then?
08:55 Lots of things, like, you know, what she could be getting up to.
08:57 So, OK, you can't get through to me.
08:59 I've already explained to you that I don't have Wi-Fi.
09:01 That's bullshit. There's no way you're not going to have Wi-Fi
09:03 in your hotel. There's no way... I speak to you when I'm in the hotel.
09:06 There's no way there's not going to be Wi-Fi in a restaurant.
09:08 There's no way there's not going to be...
09:09 There are times when the Wi-Fi is slow in restaurants,
09:11 like, I'm not going to lie. These are the things...
09:13 She's going on like I am, she's in America before.
09:15 America's not a third world country.
09:17 Yeah, but he makes it seem like I'm always lying.
09:18 Nothing I can say is good enough to him, you know?
09:20 Have you ever given him reason to be concerned?
09:22 No, I don't even know where this is coming from.
09:24 You know, I've seen people throw it around in Ferraris and Lambos.
09:27 Yeah. Who are they? A chauffeur.
09:29 A chauffeur and a two-seater car? Yeah. A two-seater car?
09:31 HE CHUCKLES
09:33 I can't drive on the left-hand side of the road,
09:35 so when I'm on holiday, I get a chauffeur to drive me
09:37 whatever car of my choice.
09:39 If it's a Ferrari, if it's a Lamborghini, if it's a Rolls,
09:41 I will get a chauffeur. Like, what's the issue?
09:43 For some reason, what do you think it is, then?
09:45 Oh, so if it's not a chauffeur, who is it, then? What are you telling me?
09:47 I've told you it's a chauffeur, so are you happy with that?
09:50 Tunde's trust issues definitely make him misjudge
09:52 a lot of innocent situations.
09:53 Like, the fact that you have your trust issues doesn't mean
09:57 that you should always keep blaming me for stuff every single time.
10:00 Like, I'm actually not doing anything.
10:02 So, what is your understanding of what's going on?
10:04 She's probably seeing another guy.
10:06 Have you ever had any reason to not believe her?
10:08 The excuses she gives me make me not believe her.
10:10 Like, there's no way you're going to tell me
10:11 you're getting a chauffeur and a two-seater car.
10:13 Denise, like, what can I say? You're here with me, we're sitting here,
10:15 I'm saying to him, "It's a chauffeur, he's saying no, can I say any more?"
10:18 He wants me to just say, "Oh, it was a guy."
10:20 I'm not trying to be inconsiderate, I'm not trying to make it seem
10:22 like I'm trying to figure out, you know, why he has these thoughts
10:25 or stuff like that. Like, I can get it,
10:27 but I believe that there should be trust in this relationship.
10:29 I don't believe I've done anything in this relationship
10:31 for T to ever think I'm stepping out on him.
10:34 He knows my reasons for going on holiday.
10:36 It's simply just to get space. Space for what?
10:38 Cos sometimes it gets too much.
10:40 And in the day, like, me not picking up my phone,
10:42 it's literally just part of me just relaxing.
10:44 Like, what is the issue? So, it's a conscious effort?
10:47 To not pick up his phone calls. Obviously it is.
10:49 So, you see me calling your phone... To be honest...
10:51 I'm actually... I'm allowed to answer?
10:53 I want to understand this properly.
10:54 So, you see me call your phone, you see T on your phone,
10:57 and you just ignore it. Is that what you're telling us?
10:59 Anyways... Have you ever done that? No.
11:01 Well... No. Obviously she has.
11:03 How would you feel if Tondé did the same thing as you're doing
11:06 when you're taking me time and disconnected from you
11:09 when he was on holiday?
11:11 # Tell me your fears... #
11:14 Silence.
11:15 # I'll be your friendly shadow... #
11:19 MUSIC PLAYS
11:22 Lauren, what's your thoughts on where Michael stands on your career?
11:30 What brings you to therapy?
11:31 There's one main reason being Lauren's career.
11:33 Lauren's a singer. We're complete opposite ends of the spectrum.
11:35 I feel like there's a wedge being driven between us.
11:37 If I'm not going to everyone, "Oh, by the way, this is my boyfriend,
11:40 "this is my boyfriend," you know, it's like, it's not your show,
11:42 it's not about you, you've come to support me.
11:44 So, either do that or...
11:45 Probably better if you didn't, if you're going to bring, like,
11:48 the vibe down.
11:50 For me, it's, like, quite hard, really,
11:52 because my career's getting, like, better,
11:53 and then to hear, like, just from his side, it's, like, negative.
11:56 Do you know what I mean? Like, it's the only place
11:58 where I'm getting negative from.
11:59 It makes me feel like now your career's taken off
12:01 that you haven't got the time for me.
12:02 But when we're at home, am I not, like, the most loving,
12:04 like, affectionate, like, girlfriend that you've ever had?
12:07 I only get to see you once in a blue moon.
12:08 But I feel like, like, in the past, I have, like, stopped,
12:11 like, put my career on hold,
12:12 cos I've had, like, crazy jealous boyfriends and stuff,
12:14 and I feel like I'm just over that.
12:15 Where it's, like, listen, I am focusing on my career,
12:17 like, I'm a hopeless romantic, I'm always choosing love, you know?
12:19 I love love so much.
12:20 So a lot of the time, I've, like, locked off things, but for what?
12:23 So I'm just not willing to do that again.
12:24 Have you guys spoken about this? Not particularly.
12:26 As you can see, Lauren's got a very big personality.
12:28 She likes to talk a lot.
12:29 So when I try and bring up shit, she over-talks and she cuts in
12:33 and she just shuts off the conversation.
12:35 Where did this energy come from?
12:36 Like, where was this before the therapist was in the room?
12:38 Like, who put 20p in you, mate?
12:39 Like, you're chilled, you're being a Libra,
12:41 then all of a sudden, now sit in therapy,
12:42 and it's like, oh, boom, boom, boom, like, we're ops.
12:45 I feel like I'm this, like, little tag-along,
12:48 and, like, I'm just sort of following her about.
12:50 I just want my girlfriend back.
12:51 So would you like it if I was less successful?
12:53 Obviously, I don't want that. Like I said, I want you to...
12:54 But you'd like that, wouldn't you, when we can chill more
12:55 and watch Netflix and stuff? No, I don't want that.
12:57 I just want a bit more time with you.
12:58 He doesn't get it, cos he's in a 9-5, yeah?
13:00 So you've got your job, fantastic.
13:01 You've even been promoted, amazing.
13:03 I'm not where I want to be yet, and I need to work to get it.
13:06 I feel like I'm being punished for trying to do what I want to do.
13:08 Do you know, like, I'm so sorry I don't have a 9-5,
13:10 like your little exes.
13:11 I'm so sorry that I'm trying to, like, actually, like,
13:14 become a superstar.
13:15 You don't just get there, it's not overnight,
13:17 and it's a constant effort.
13:19 At the start of the relationship,
13:20 and all the things that he's now using against me,
13:22 like, they was amazing, you know?
13:22 He was like, "Oh, my gosh, yeah, my girlfriend's superstar,
13:24 like, showing me off, placing all my, like,
13:26 music videos and stuff."
13:27 But now, all of a sudden, now that we're together,
13:29 it's a bad thing.
13:31 I want to move on with our relationship.
13:32 I want us to keep going, but I don't know how it's possible
13:35 with how things are at the moment.
13:36 I can't offer her all the same things that her career can,
13:39 do you know what I mean?
13:40 An average day for Lauren is, like, hanging out in the studio
13:42 with all these famous rappers and artists,
13:44 and my average day is scooping dog shit all day.
13:48 Do you make time for Michael?
13:49 Yeah, of course I do.
13:50 I feel like she makes as much time as she could.
13:52 I don't. I don't think you do.
13:53 I think she cares about her career, and that's it.
13:56 She's focused on being a superstar,
13:57 she's focused on Lauren.
13:58 And, look, see, she's not saying anything
14:02 because she knows it's true.
14:03 I do not give a shit about you.
14:03 You don't, you literally, you want to be a superstar,
14:05 and that is it.
14:06 I don't want to be a superstar.
14:06 Exactly.
14:07 Like, what's the point of being with you?
14:08 If you could handle it and you could be supportive,
14:10 then you'd be at the cost of nothing to not be.
14:10 I am supportive.
14:11 Have I not supported you, like, the whole way through?
14:13 No, you've come with a bait on, and it's just, yeah.
14:14 Just because I'm not 100...
14:15 You're jealous, you're jealous.
14:16 What do you expect Michael to do as far as supporting you?
14:18 I just feel like, if you're going to be around,
14:20 like, be a vibe, do you know what I mean?
14:21 You know, I'll get a good opportunity,
14:22 and I'll be gassed off the phone,
14:23 and he'll be like, "Oh, does that mean
14:24 "we can't do that thing then?"
14:25 Every opportunity she gets is, like,
14:26 the cost of our relationship, I feel like.
14:27 You want me to turn down some things, right, and choose you?
14:29 Yeah.
14:30 I turn them down, and the next minute we split up,
14:31 and I never made it, 'cause I was just sat with you.
14:33 So, how should he book time with you?
14:35 Or how does he get to do that if you want him to show up?
14:36 Like, he can say, "Put it in the diary."
14:38 Oh, okay. You know what I mean?
14:39 And I will put it in the diary.
14:40 So, Michael needs to put it in the diary.
14:40 You know, I will forget things anyway.
14:41 I just want, like, a normal...
14:43 Normal girlfriend.
14:43 So, go back to your fucking little exes, then.
14:45 Why didn't they work out?
14:46 If my career is the only problem.
14:48 Because I love you.
14:48 Are you jealous?
14:49 You're my ex, completely.
14:50 Would you like this with your exes?
14:51 For me, conflict is like a worst nightmare.
14:53 I hate it.
14:54 It brings me out of my comfort zone.
14:55 There has to be some compromise here, right?
14:57 It's only going to work if there's compromise.
14:58 You know, you have to be willing to compromise
14:59 and understand her lifestyle, what she's doing.
15:01 Lauren, for you, are you willing to compromise?
15:03 There has to be some sort of middle ground
15:04 where you say, "You know what?
15:05 "I'm working, I'm vibing, I'm doing my thing,
15:07 "but when he's around, I want him to feel safe and secure."
15:09 I'm not willing to, like, cancel opportunities,
15:11 but I will try and be like, you know, communicate.
15:13 But you have to let me know there's problems,
15:15 and then I will try and, you know, work with you.
15:17 I know you shy away from confrontation,
15:19 but instead of seeing it as a confrontation,
15:21 why don't you see it as an opportunity to connect?
15:23 OK, yeah, there is actually one other issue.
15:26 I think that Lauren is in love with my friend.
15:29 What?
15:32 MUSIC PLAYS
15:33 Even though the last time I spoke to Sean, I gave him an ultimatum,
15:55 I do hope that he does turn up today.
15:58 He just made me so mad, saying he was going to give up
16:00 on the session so easily.
16:02 I feel like we could have something great here,
16:05 but it's going to take a lot of work.
16:06 MUSIC CONTINUES
16:07 Hello, Ray. Hi, Joe.
16:29 Is Sean going to be joining us? I don't know.
16:32 Did something happen?
16:33 After the session, we had a conversation.
16:36 He just basically said that I was disrespectful,
16:38 so I did give him an ultimatum.
16:40 I said to him that, you know, if he doesn't make it to this session
16:44 and to the end, then him and I were done.
16:47 I can't lie, it doesn't feel good sitting here by myself,
16:49 but at the end of the day, I felt like I had to give him that ultimatum,
16:53 because it just makes me feel like, like, what are we doing?
16:55 You know, let's just get through this. Let's do this.
16:58 Ultimatums don't always show good faith,
17:00 so there might be something in there that might have triggered him
17:03 to not show up, because he might feel that you're controlling the narrative.
17:06 He should be here to control his own narrative.
17:07 He makes me feel like I'm the only one with a problem.
17:09 Do you get what I'm saying? But at the same time,
17:11 where do you think maybe you could have presented it
17:13 in a different way, maybe?
17:15 Probably I could have...
17:18 Oh. Oh, wow. Nice of you to join us, Sean. How are you?
17:21 Yeah, great, great. We...
17:23 I didn't think you were coming, but happy to see you.
17:25 At least he made it.
17:27 Consider yourself lucky, that, mate.
17:28 If you ever give me an ultimatum like that again in your life,
17:31 that'll be the last time you see me.
17:32 So you can't, that's the first thing you go on?
17:34 I'm just letting you know from the job. You're coming in.
17:35 After yesterday, you're already on the team.
17:37 That'll be the last time you hear from me.
17:39 OK. What finally made you come in?
17:43 I mean, I came because I feel like I respect what we have.
17:47 I mean, I respect our relationship.
17:49 I wasn't happy about the ultimatum, but I consider the feelings.
17:51 Do you know what I mean?
17:53 He's here now, so we have to progress that into a place
17:56 where he can understand what you're feeling
17:58 and you can understand what he's feeling.
18:00 Yes, I admit I was a bit, you know, over the top last session,
18:04 but at the end of the day, I'm here now, I'm willing to hear,
18:06 I'm willing to give you the chance to express yourself
18:09 and I'm open to receiving.
18:10 Sean, do you agree that it takes two?
18:12 Do you feel like you're in this together?
18:14 I don't know. I don't even know if I believe it, to be honest.
18:15 Do you understand what he means? No.
18:18 Let me talk to you now. It's a man-to-man now.
18:19 OK, pal, please.
18:21 She went to Paris with her friends.
18:23 And you know what? On social media, she didn't post.
18:26 That's really interesting that he doesn't follow me on socials,
18:29 but somehow he's here banging on about he didn't see nothing
18:31 on my socials when I went to Paris.
18:33 So were you checking up on me, Sean?
18:34 There's a reason I don't follow her on socials.
18:35 Were you checking up on me on what I was getting up to?
18:37 I didn't hear from you, so that was the only other way
18:38 for me to know what you were doing.
18:39 But she didn't even post.
18:41 So, like I said, God knows where she was.
18:42 So let's go back to the fact that you guys don't follow each other.
18:45 Is there a reason for that? It's quite odd.
18:47 There's a clear reason why I don't follow her.
18:48 What's your reason?
18:50 Have you seen her Instagram? No.
18:53 Ray takes a lot of, like, half-naked pictures,
18:57 should I call it, on Instagram.
18:59 It's a bit of an issue for me,
19:00 because I think that's a reflection of me.
19:02 My confidence, my self-esteem was nothing about,
19:08 let's say, three, four years ago.
19:09 So when I started doing my Instagram,
19:12 I started taking my pictures,
19:12 it was my way of taking that control back.
19:15 I think that because of the level of attention that I get,
19:22 Sean feels as if...
19:24 Almost like she's for the streets, right?
19:25 And that doesn't feel nice. It really doesn't.
19:28 So if you're showing, like, minimal amounts of clothing,
19:34 then you're clearly trying to get a certain type of attention.
19:37 Right? So, for me, I don't understand how you can have a page like that
19:41 and still want a guy to take you serious.
19:43 When you met her, was she already in that space?
19:45 I didn't know her Instagram account.
19:47 Oh, you met her face-to-face?
19:48 Met her face-to-face, if you ask me.
19:49 Oh. Did you ask her her Instagram account?
19:50 I asked her, and she showed me. She showed me.
19:52 Once we got together, I thought, "I will just change up."
19:55 OK, so you met her with the Instagram,
19:56 but you thought things would change after you guys became an item.
19:59 Yeah. If anybody gets married, for example, right,
20:01 you're not going to act how you act when you're single.
20:03 Things are going to change.
20:04 OK, so you pretty much went in with the idea
20:06 that things would possibly change.
20:07 Because no-one's going to act the same way when you're single.
20:09 You're not still going to be selling yourself, right,
20:10 for the... for the... for the highest bidder.
20:12 Who's selling themselves?
20:13 To go and pick you. I'm selling myself.
20:15 That's basically what you're doing on Instagram.
20:16 What I do on Instagram, it's called modelling.
20:18 It's work. It's work.
20:20 I'm not just doing it just for attention.
20:22 That's what they call it now. All right, Ray. Modelling. Really?
20:24 Ray, tell us... Wow. So, in your words, then, tell us about...
20:26 What a dickhead. You're saying it's modelling, right?
20:29 It's work. Yes, OK, it's sexy. I can't help that, right?
20:32 When him and I met, I'd been doing that long before that.
20:35 Long before that. I was very...
20:36 Oh, get this, transparent about it from the beginning.
20:40 You're expected to dumb it down a little bit
20:41 if you're going to get into an agency.
20:42 So you're coming from more of a tone it down? Tone it down.
20:44 Says the same person who does modelling in his boxes.
20:46 Tomato... Tomato. I don't get it.
20:49 # When he's speaking on my drip, I'll be playing with that... #
20:50 My Instagram is very, like, fashion-orientated.
20:52 Ray's Instagram is a bit more lingerie-ish/sexy/only fans looking.
21:00 It's kind of the same industry, but it just looks completely different.
21:03 Well, are you opening to tone it down for the sake of the relationship?
21:05 Um... Let's see how all this session goes first.
21:09 If Sean wants me to tone down my socials,
21:15 how about we start with him showing me commitment,
21:19 showing me consistency?
21:20 He can't just rock up and be like, "Oh, you need to do this,
21:22 "you need to do that." No.
21:24 I don't even know what he wants from me.
21:25 I don't even know if he's even going to commit to me.
21:27 So how do you expect me now to change my life,
21:29 to tone down what I've been doing, what brings me money for you?
21:33 Is your modelling bringing the money, basically?
21:35 Is that what's paying the bills or is it part-time?
21:36 I mean, it's not paying the bills, but it is my, you know,
21:38 my selling point, yes. OK, cool. Ah, selling point.
21:40 Right, right. Not her selling it to the house, but...
21:42 Oh, oh. See how he's trying to twist it and making it seem like
21:45 I'm doing something dirty?
21:46 You have to sell your body to make money.
21:48 My body... Other ways.
21:49 Getting paid to model is different.
21:51 You should know that because you do the same thing.
21:53 Your bikini and all of that in an office.
21:54 You do the same thing. Are you selling your body?
21:55 Are you selling your body when you're poisoned in front of the camera?
21:58 First of all, we know from man and woman it's different.
22:00 How so? Because, like I said, when I'm in my boxes and whatnot,
22:02 I'm not getting girls sending me news on my DMs and whatnot.
22:04 So I don't know if you want to just see an array of dicks in your DMs.
22:06 That's up to you, but you can't tell me someone's serious
22:08 and they want all of that.
22:09 Listen, if you go through any girls' DMs,
22:12 there's dick pics in there.
22:13 I'm not the first, I'm not the last.
22:15 I don't understand what the big do is.
22:16 Am I responding? No!
22:18 Of course not. Some of them, OK, yeah, but that's where it ends.
22:22 That's it.
22:23 She even jokingly mentioned about doing OnlyFans.
22:26 OnlyFans. I said I was thinking about it.
22:28 You will never... What's wrong with that?
22:30 You will never, ever in your life do OnlyFans and I'll be here.
22:31 There's no way in God's green earth that I'll be here
22:34 and you do OnlyFans.
22:35 He's making it sound like I'm just going to be out there
22:37 spreading my legs and showing my pussy to people.
22:38 That's what you're doing on the 'gram.
22:40 That's what I'm doing on the 'gram?
22:42 I'm sure if you zoom in... You know you can zoom on Instagram.
22:45 I'm sure if you zoom into the pictures... Oh, you son of a bitch.
22:47 ..you see print or you see cheeks... He's lying!
22:49 You can even see the hairs on my bum when you zoom in.
22:51 That's how close it is. Are you joking?
22:53 I'm literally just being real.
22:54 There is actually one other issue.
23:06 I think that Lauren is in love with her friend.
23:08 What? Yeah.
23:11 Who? Sasha.
23:13 You think I'm in love with Sasha?
23:15 Wait, so, Lauren, who's Sasha and who is Sasha to you?
23:19 Wait, focus. Yeah, Sasha is my friend.
23:22 I don't feel like men and women can be friends. Why?
23:24 I know what guys are like.
23:25 There's not always going to be just, like, friendship in their heads.
23:28 They go out to dinner dates together and shit like that.
23:30 I don't go on dinner dates.
23:32 Like, what has Sasha, please, got to do with this?
23:35 Me and Sasha are so close, literally.
23:37 Like, Sasha just really gets me and has been there for me
23:39 through so many things. Like, a true friend, honestly.
23:42 He's from Nottingham where I'm from. I'm from Nottingham.
23:44 So, like, if he's in London, you know, like, the other day,
23:46 like, he's just casually in town and I was in town,
23:48 so we went for coffee.
23:49 We sat there with a candle in the middle, do you know what I mean?
23:51 I'm not doing updates. That's what I'm picturing in my head.
23:53 I'm not doing updates. Everything gets related to Sasha.
23:55 If we have an argument, she goes right into Sasha.
23:57 Even from the very start, there was a whole issue around Sasha.
24:00 Why was there an issue around Sasha?
24:01 She told me that Sasha was gay when we first started.
24:03 No, I did not say that. You told me he was gay.
24:05 So, Lauren, what did you say?
24:06 Right, so, I might have just tried to, like, make out, you know,
24:08 I just wanted him to not think of him as a threat.
24:10 I mean, imagine these roles reversed, right,
24:12 and I told Lauren that I've got this friend called Tony, right,
24:16 could be a man or a woman's name.
24:17 She's expecting, you know, lad Tony from the pub,
24:19 drinks beer, watches football,
24:21 and then she sees some supermodel, like, skinny, beautiful,
24:24 big boobs, all of this. Like, how would that make her feel?
24:27 Well, Michael, have you met Sasha at any point?
24:28 We met at one of her gigs, actually.
24:30 And obviously, at this point, I still thought he was gay.
24:32 And I'm getting a drink and there's this big guy next to me.
24:34 Like, and he's like a big, muscly guy, like, quite good-looking.
24:37 And then, after the show, we're chatting, and he comes over
24:39 and he starts chatting to her, thinking, like, "Who's this?"
24:41 And obviously, it was sort of halfway through the conversation
24:44 when she told me that he's Sasha.
24:45 And then, next thing I know, I've got this six-foot-three,
24:48 massive, muscly, good-looking guy in front of me.
24:50 It made me, like, it made me feel small and, like, de-emasculated.
24:53 Michael has, like, a big issue with height.
24:54 I don't have a big issue with height.
24:56 The problem is, yeah, Sasha is tall, right,
24:58 and I think that is what the problem is.
24:59 How tall did you say he was on your Tinder profile?
25:01 How tall did you say he was?
25:02 I said I was, like, a little bit taller than him.
25:04 You said he was 5'11" on his Tinder profile.
25:05 Everyone fibs about their height on Tinder.
25:07 Like, it's, like, a common thing. Everyone does it.
25:09 It's obviously a big insecurity of yours.
25:11 I'm average height, you know, I'm not, like, five foot tall.
25:13 I lied about a couple of inches. Why is this a whole big issue?
25:15 I don't understand why this is getting brought up in the slightest.
25:18 How are you going to pretend you're 5'11" when you're 5'7"?
25:21 5'8".
25:22 Don't pretend I'm getting lobster
25:23 and bring me a fucking can of tuna or something, do you know what I mean?
25:26 Don't tell me you're something and then not be it.
25:28 Let's just confirm the fact that both of you have lied about something.
25:31 Obviously, Michael lied about his height on Tinder,
25:33 being gay. Now the lies are out.
25:34 We're trying to understand this dynamic between Sasha specifically.
25:37 Can you clear that out for me?
25:38 I generally feel like I cannot trust them together.
25:40 Like, when they're together and I'm not there,
25:42 I've got all this shit running through my head,
25:44 like, them rolling around naked on the floor...
25:46 Are you fucking kidding me right now? No, obviously not.
25:48 Look at her. She's beautiful. What guy would not find her attractive?
25:51 I think something must have happened as well.
25:53 Right, he's obviously got the problem with appearance, height
25:55 and stuff like that. I can get past the fact that Sasha looks all right.
25:58 Do you know what I mean? Like, it's...
25:59 Honestly, it's just a show. There's a whole human in there.
26:02 You can see someone like as a brother and stuff. Do you know what I mean?
26:04 Not everyone, like, fancies me and wants to be with me.
26:07 Do you know what I mean? It's not a relationship like that. It's really not.
26:10 Has Lauren given you any reason not to trust her?
26:12 I brought it up once before, asked them if they had ever done nothing,
26:14 and she just flew off the handle.
26:16 Like, she usually does with everything I ever bring up.
26:18 So, obviously, me being me, I just all let it lay.
26:21 Lauren, has anything happened between you and Sasha?
26:23 Oh, my gosh. Michael, what the fuck?
26:25 Why are you avoiding the question? Answer the fucking question.
26:27 Oh, my God, cos he's... What's happened with you and Sasha? I'm telling you.
26:30 Me and Sasha kissed, like, one time. What? No, listen...
26:33 Fucking army. You fucking kissed him? Ages ago, like, years ago.
26:36 So you've lied to me this whole fucking time? I've not lied.
26:39 You've lied to me. A little kiss.
26:40 That's something you bring up, though, to your partner. Oh, my gosh.
26:43 I fucking knew it. Honestly, I knew it from the fucking start.
26:46 I'm furious right now. I don't even know what to say.
26:49 Is there any reason you didn't share this information earlier,
26:52 that you had kissed Sasha? No, but, I mean, why am I going to sit
26:54 and tell him, like, every single mistake or every little tiny kiss
26:57 with a fucking friend? I don't need to know who you played
26:59 doctor and nurse with in fucking primary school,
27:01 but the guy that you see off the dinner tates and, like,
27:03 you're texting all the time, and I find out that you've kissed,
27:05 like, how's that supposed to make me feel? Oh, my gosh, a tiny little kiss.
27:08 Have you ever kissed someone, like, your friend, like, just randomly? No. Never.
27:11 Is there a particular reason why you hid it from Michael, or was it...?
27:14 The main thing is, you just need to know, it's just a friend,
27:16 we don't see each other like that, and that's all I wanted,
27:19 do you know what I mean? I just wanted you to not worry.
27:22 Michael, how do you feel now you know that Lauren has kissed Sasha?
27:24 I feel like everything that I have thought has now just been proven.
27:27 Is there anything else that happens? Of course not.
27:29 I promise you, like, I know her, I do not see him in that way at all.
27:32 Michael, how do you want to deal with this moving forward?
27:35 I want her to understand that I'm feeling uncomfortable
27:37 with their friendship and say, like, I won't see him again, then.
27:40 Or I'll make sure that there's... It's always, like, in a public place,
27:42 like, only at shows or something like that, at least,
27:44 like, making a little bit of effort to understand that I'm feeling
27:47 uncomfortable with this whole weird friendship that they've got going on.
27:50 Hi. Huh? Hi. Thank you.
27:57 So, for clarity, Lauren, you're going to compromise
27:59 for the sake of your relationship and minimise contact with Sasha,
28:02 is that correct? Yeah, because I shouldn't have lied about it.
28:05 I don't like lying, you know, and I didn't really lie,
28:07 like, I tried to make you think that you might be gay,
28:10 and obviously I didn't tell you that we kissed one time,
28:13 but I do feel bad, you know, if you did it to me, I know I'd be,
28:16 like, literally going crazy right now, like, smashing the windows and stuff.
28:19 But...
28:20 So what are you going to do for it? I feel like you've never expressed this.
28:23 Well, now I am, now I am. I'm sorry it's taken me a little while.
28:26 Like, you know what kind of person I am.
28:27 Well, we've had a lot of tough conversations today,
28:30 but I'm happy that we were able to be open, be direct.
28:32 It's all combined open now,
28:33 so you can actually move forward in a much more healthy way.
28:36 I want to give you guys a homework.
28:37 I want to give you guys something that I think is going to really help you
28:40 outside of this room, and I want you to spend more time with each other.
28:43 Do your best within your power, Lauren, to create those moments
28:45 so you guys can have a much more meaningful relationship.
28:47 Thank you for being open and having a great session,
28:49 and I'll see you in our next session. OK.
28:51 Thank you so much. Thank you so much.
28:53 I just felt quite attacked.
28:55 I can't believe there's all these things that Michael feels,
28:58 and it's just all of a sudden coming out now.
29:00 I've got out everything I wanted to say,
29:02 stuff that I would have held back on normally.
29:04 Overall, yeah, I'm happy.
29:06 I'm feeling very hopeful about our relationship.
29:09 So, what's pretty clear is that there are issues of trust on both sides.
29:13 No, cos I've not given her that many reasons to not trust me.
29:17 She, on the other hand, there's just always something,
29:20 there's always fucking another thing in it.
29:22 One of my friends flew into London from Atlanta.
29:24 We were in the UK, and I was in London, and I was in London, and I was like,
29:27 "I'm going to London, I'm going to London, I'm going to London."
29:30 And I was like, "I'm going to London, I'm going to London, I'm going to London."
29:32 And she was like, "I'm going to London, I'm going to London, I'm going to London."
29:35 And I was like, "I'm going to London, I'm going to London, I'm going to London."
29:38 He wasn't meant to go out that night, but I had the kids, so I couldn't go out.
29:41 And I met him the next day, I went to his hotel, just to chill.
29:44 And he was showing me the girls that he kind of met in the club.
29:47 He's like, "Ah, you lot are mutual friends with one of them."
29:49 So I'm like, "Mutuals? All right, cool, let me see this girl, innit?"
29:52 And then, lo and behold, is, you know, my girlfriend.
29:56 So I'm like, "Right, that's my girl, you know?"
29:58 He's showing me the conversations.
29:59 Nothing sexual in the conversations, I must admit,
30:01 but it was just the fact that he was able to get her contact details.
30:04 No, no, sorry. What?
30:06 He tells this story to anyone who cares to listen,
30:08 like, you already know on what basis I gave him my number.
30:11 And what was that basis?
30:12 It was on networking basis.
30:14 She's chatting shit.
30:15 Maybe on her love and boyfriend that I am,
30:16 I'm printing over, like, 200 business cards.
30:17 There's no reason why she should be exchanging social media
30:21 details with anybody.
30:22 Simply business card, hand it over, done.
30:24 If that was your so-called way of networking.
30:28 He was talking shit.
30:29 To me, her giving my friend, exchanging social media contacts,
30:32 is basically like her sucking his dick.
30:34 That's how I see it. She might as well suck his dick.
30:36 She was already halfway there.
30:37 How can he just compare me giving a number as me sucking dick?
30:41 Bro, you're basically moving like a whore,
30:43 because that's some whore-type shit.
30:44 That's not... A loyal girlfriend would not move like that.
30:46 Why did you make that correlation?
30:47 Are you really going to do this? Because that's how I see it.
30:49 You're exchanging contact details with another guy...
30:51 Are you really going to do this? ..knowing that you've got a man.
30:53 You basically suck his dick. Basically.
30:55 And that's what I'm saying.
30:56 She does things and now she wants to get pissed off.
30:58 He's like, "Bro, why are you getting pissed off?
31:00 "Where are you going? Where are you going?"
31:01 Now she's walking off because she can't take the heat.
31:03 She knows I'm telling the truth and she's walking off.
31:05 Do you want to go and see if she's OK?
31:10 I'm so fucking old.
31:12 We've got some homework and we're supposed to be spending time together.
31:30 I'm excited to see what happens.
31:31 # Oh, I live
31:34 # You don't let me down
31:37 # You don't let me down
31:40 # Oh, I live
31:43 # You don't let me down
31:46 # You don't let me... #
31:49 I don't know why I expect anything different from Lauren,
31:51 that she's done this to me once again, you know?
31:54 What's the point in me putting in the effort when she's not going to try?
31:56 We had one homework to do. We had one homework.
31:58 And she's fucked it up straight away.
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33:58 I actually can't believe we're talking about this.
34:01 Um...
34:02 There was actually a lot going on.
34:04 We were late to the shoot.
34:05 There was a lot going on. I was getting told, "Hair, dress."
34:08 Da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
34:09 Literally, my mind was so scattered,
34:10 I didn't see the men in the room.
34:12 I didn't know he was in the room.
34:13 That's how much my mind was all over the place.
34:15 That is literally all there is to it.
34:17 So please don't make me feel bad for that.
34:19 Like I said, she didn't apologise to me. She didn't say nothing.
34:21 It was awkward for me. What about me?
34:23 How are you the victim?
34:24 Because you're disrespecting me from everybody else.
34:28 It just makes me feel like shit.
34:30 Like, I know I didn't mean to.
34:33 It's OK. I just feel like this is just an example of why
34:36 I hesitate to even get into relationships,
34:38 because it always happens.
34:39 I've always been made to feel like, you know,
34:42 I don't know, I just feel bad about how I look
34:44 or how I carry myself.
34:46 And...
34:48 I'm tired of being controlled.
34:50 I'm tired of people telling me, you know,
34:52 just everything to do with how I carry myself.
34:54 Hence why, when I did the Instagram, that was my way of taking my power.
34:57 Because I've just gone through it throughout my whole life.
35:00 And if they sit there and then feel like I would do that on purpose...
35:04 I'm not having it. Like, if she carries on like this,
35:07 like, then we're going to have to re-evaluate this whole thing,
35:10 because if you keep banging on about the OnlyFans and, you know,
35:13 how you just want to do your thing, you don't want to consider
35:16 my feelings or care, like, I would never introduce her to my family.
35:19 I'm just keeping it real. I would never, ever, ever introduce her to my family.
35:22 How does that make you feel, Rui?
35:24 Um...
35:28 He knows what that means to me and he understands the fact
35:33 that I don't even have a great relationship with my family.
35:36 I don't have... I've been by myself since I was 18.
35:38 I've had to struggle on my own.
35:41 So for him to just say things like that, to just...
35:44 It's almost like a rejection.
35:45 God, I hate it.
35:49 I'm not here for disrespect, bro.
35:52 Like, cool, I hear the tears and all of that type of stuff,
35:55 but if there's no action to back it up, there's only so much I can deal with.
35:58 # I've been breaking down, breaking down
36:03 # Baby, I'm so easy, but I can't hold on
36:09 # Every time I look at you
36:12 # I see my little girl
36:15 # I see my little girl
36:18 # I see my mistake
36:20 # And though it really hurts
36:23 # When I know it's going to be OK. #
36:25 Relationship with a man is going to be difficult.
36:30 Yeah, I mean, it's not supposed to be that easy either.
36:32 No, no, we did. Obviously, I was just calling her a spoon.
36:35 You actually said, "Fuck off, my face."
36:37 You lied to me because everyone was bringing their white girlfriends.
36:40 You know, in the beginning, it was just like, "I'm taking you here, get ready, let's go."
36:43 That was big, big energy and I liked that.
36:45 Before the baby coming, we were at it like rabbits.
36:47 Once our baby came, it's just boom, gone.
36:49 Gone.
36:50 (explosion)

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