Story of sub-postmistress Karen Jolliffe brings 5 Live host Nicky Campbell to tears
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00:00 As soon as this all started coming up again, I know there's been little bits of it, and I just didn't want to go back there.
00:07 I never had a clue that it was Horizon. It never entered my head it would be a computer.
00:12 And I felt so stupid when I look at Mr Bates and how he'd worked it out. Why didn't I? I'm not a stupid person, really.
00:21 What happened to you, Karen, as a result of all this?
00:26 I was pleaded for theft and I pleaded guilty at Magistrates Court. And so I was in sentence for a year.
00:34 You went to prison?
00:36 I went to prison, yes. I went to prison for three months. And three months with the tag.
00:43 But I wasn't brave like that Jo. If I'd done what Jo had done, I had such a lot of loyal customers, I should have done what she did.
00:52 And now, on reflection, I realise all of you, all you Postmasters were wonderful.
00:57 And I've only just watched it last night because I couldn't bring myself to watch it. I watched all of it last night.
01:03 And if it wasn't for you, people like me couldn't be saying that now. You're very brave and I wish I'd been braver.
01:10 Well, you are being brave already. You've made that first step and that's brave.
01:14 soon.