"Mujhe yeh statement maqool nahi laga," Ather Kazmi's reaction on Bani PTI's decision
"Mujhe yeh statement maqool nahi laga," Ather Kazmi's reaction on Bani PTI's decision
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00:00 How do you see this PTI statement?
00:07 I have just heard the entire statement.
00:11 I have heard the clips and he said he will write an open letter.
00:14 I was recording a program with Mansoor.
00:17 I don't think this statement is reasonable.
00:22 I don't think it was necessary to make this statement on this occasion.
00:27 You could have done many other things.
00:29 If you have an international watchdog who watches the elections,
00:33 you could have told him about the situation.
00:38 The international media is already talking about the elections.
00:44 You can't say that we should not give money to Pakistan and that will cause losses.
00:50 But the other side of the issue is that this is all related to politics.
00:54 When IMF was supposed to give money, what did they do?
00:58 They went to the world park and met with the opposition.
01:03 Although their government was over, they were in the assembly.
01:08 So that the program does not get interrupted.
01:12 So you said that there is a political aspect to this.
01:15 But I think the PTI statement is very inappropriate.
01:20 Why would you make such a statement?
01:22 Any politician will first look at the two sides of the issue.
01:28 You will get your own answer.
01:31 You will not benefit from this.
01:33 Whatever they want to do, they will do it according to their politics and preferences.
01:37 If they want to do it, they will do it without your letter.
01:40 If they don't want to do it, and they have to give a program, then your letter will not help.
01:45 Where was politics in all this?
01:47 Why don't they understand what has been discussed?
01:50 What does this have to do with the IMF?
01:52 If this statement is described in one word, then it is highly irresponsible.
01:59 Very irresponsible.
02:01 Let's suppose that we all know that our $3 billion facility is ending in March.
02:10 And after March, Pakistan needs a new program.
02:13 Analysts and financial experts are saying that Pakistan needs a program worth $6 billion.
02:20 And they need it not only to stabilize their economy,
02:27 but also to help the 25 crore people in this country,
02:30 whose lives have been ruined by us,
02:33 to help them spend their days, weeks and months.
02:40 So we are not paying attention to rectifying our mistakes.
02:45 Until we do that, we will not be able to manage the economy.
02:48 25 crore people will keep paying the price.
02:51 And to give such a statement, as a result of which you know that the lives of those 25 crore people will become more difficult.
02:58 If they believe you, and they say that we don't give programs, then what will happen?
03:04 Let's understand the consequences of this.
03:06 The default? Yes.
03:10 How much will the dollar go? It can go up to 1000.
03:13 And the election that we are talking about should be a fair election.
03:17 Look, no one has any objection to this.
03:20 No one should run their campaign thinking that there is a fraud in the election.
03:24 Fairness should be there. Research should be done.
03:27 But what are the consequences of this?
03:30 I think that disregarding the lives of 25 crore people,
03:35 and not bringing this into consideration,
03:38 that what will happen to them if the country defaults and does not get money.
03:42 We will do our politics within the given environment of Pakistan.
03:47 And if we have been wronged, we will fight for it in this given environment.
03:52 And here we have forums.
03:54 I think that all those forums are seriously compromised.
03:57 The Election Commission is compromised.
04:00 The Supreme Court does not expect justice.
04:02 Our judicial system has failed to give justice.
04:05 And especially in the case of elections, the repressive environment,
04:08 there is no relief in that repression.
04:11 And we don't have a good history of people going to the tribunals and getting justice.
04:16 5-5 year cases, although there is a 120-day condition.
04:20 But they themselves decide whether to accept or not.
04:24 And the way it has been blatantly manipulated,
04:27 that I myself was hopeful of two sides, Islamabad and the other side,
04:31 and the Form 45, as evidence, is available to all of us.
04:35 Not just me.
04:37 It is also available to the candidates of Tariq-e-Labbaik,
04:40 to the candidates of the Islamic Jamaat,
04:43 to the candidates of the People's Party.
04:45 So the request is that what we are doing is based on evidence.
04:49 So everyone can see it, but the Chief Election Commissioner cannot.
04:52 And I am also saddened by the fact that
04:54 under the nose of the Supreme Court,
04:56 in the circle of the Supreme Court judges,
04:58 there are colonies of judges who have their own residences.
05:01 If this can happen in that circle, then what can happen in the rest of the country?
05:05 And there is a dare that someone's ear is pierced.
05:09 So we are fine, all these are our grievances.
05:12 But for these grievances, we will use the forums,
05:15 and we will not think that if our words are not being heard,
05:19 then we will put the financial security of the whole country at stake.
05:26 So I think this is a very irresponsible statement he has given.
05:30 If he makes a wrong statement, then it may not be wrong.
05:33 You were talking about elections.
05:36 The Inter-Party elections have been decided correctly.
05:39 There is no difference in small elections.
05:41 Sir, tell me one thing.
05:43 This politician has been a politician for 25-30 years.
05:49 I am saying this again and again because when I saw this statement,
05:53 I said that this is not right.
05:56 This cannot be. How can they make a statement?
05:59 And especially when you have already been pressurized,
06:04 like the phone call that was made to the two finance ministers.
06:08 In the last program, this is what I did when I took the name without asking.
06:11 When the Taimur of the country's economy was talking,
06:14 I said that there is audio, so the country's economy was sitting there.
06:17 He did not say that till the end.
06:19 So now what you are talking about, and you have also made it wrong.
06:22 I would like to take Ali Zafar on the line.
06:24 It was surprising for me that Ali Zafar came out and conveyed this.
06:28 It is surprising for me that I am sitting here.
06:31 Please, please.
06:34 No, no, you tell me.
06:36 No, no, no, I am talking.
06:38 You have declared this statement wrong.
06:42 You have declared it irresponsible.
06:44 And it is surprising for them.
06:46 It is not appropriate.
06:48 It is not appropriate.
06:50 The work that Mr. Khan has done is not appropriate.
06:52 Whatever work he wanted, according to that, he is getting the result.
06:55 So he will do the same work ten times.
06:57 If he does not want to understand, then the name you took,
07:00 I was in a show with him yesterday.
07:02 I said that until such people are present in this party,
07:04 the roads are being built.
07:06 Who are you talking about?
07:08 Ali Zafar.
07:10 He is becoming the chairman of the party.
07:12 No, no, I am saying that until such people are present,
07:14 You know that the party is becoming the chairman.
07:16 Now he is resigning from the senatorship.
07:18 No, no, he is the senator of PTI.
07:20 Keep this in mind.
07:22 He is in one party and in the other party.
07:24 That is why on the 3rd, the election was also announced.
07:26 Yes, yes, Barrister Gauhar and Mr. Omar Ayub.
07:28 You are also the same.
07:30 Why did they follow so many laws that they are still here?
07:32 No, no, I am telling you,
07:34 the brother who spoke to us,
07:36 his anger is also fine, whatever has happened.
07:38 But not under this nose,
07:40 those nose people had ordered to stop Imran Khan's counting in 2018.
07:44 They only gave a stay on Kasim Suri.
07:48 Leave the rest, what happened below.
07:50 This was the election of 2018.
07:52 I have been on this for many days,
07:54 today is the fifth day,
07:56 but after Khan's statement,
07:58 I have a rare opportunity of IMF,
08:00 to say to my Gandapur,
08:02 that these are our conditions in the parliament,
08:04 to say ok to this,
08:06 first you fix the election for the future,
08:08 cover it with a meme like this,
08:10 that we want the election to be right.
08:12 No matter how much debate there is in the parliament,
08:14 they are also sitting, they are doing everything.
08:16 From 2013 to 2018, everyone was talking about themselves.
08:18 What are you doing?
08:20 You are getting a way, you first put a condition.
08:22 Why do you go?
08:24 He kept giving the board to the IMF,
08:26 he kept giving money, whose board is he sitting on?
08:28 He is deciding his political life.
08:30 They want their money back, everyone.
08:32 We don't have the money of an IMF alone,
08:34 we have to give it to the whole world.