Colin Post joins Nick Girimonte and Davis Wilson to talk about what could be an all-time TCU season, Jamie Dixon's program-building and the trajectory of the program.
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00:00 Okay, now on the frog fever pod we have a special guest recurring guest now, Colin post
00:08 the former writer for TC 360 247 all that jazz, he sued grad.
00:13 I'm calling we thank you for having on and last time we had you on was I think right
00:18 before the Clemson game, when we were talking about you know don't panic if the scene loses
00:23 all the transfers we didn't really know what this team had brought but how have you thought
00:27 the seasons gone since that game and are you pleased with what the frogs brought to the
00:32 table.
00:33 I am I was talking first of all Nick Davis thanks for having me on guys always love joining
00:39 you guys and got to meet Nick in person for the first time on Saturday at the sense.
00:45 Yeah, that was good.
00:47 Good little win but do I've been pleased I was talking to somebody about this earlier
00:51 today, Oklahoma State grad actually so big 12 hoops fan and just, it has felt different
00:57 because TC doesn't have a national star necessarily, or someone who is just maybe even a big 12
01:04 player of the year contender which you could maybe even argue that for a manual but they
01:08 just don't have the same pop maybe they did last year, but they're going to finish better
01:14 and the big 12.
01:16 And unless something bad happens this team will finish as the best team that's ever come
01:21 through TCU when it comes to how they've performed in a really tough conference and I.
01:26 One thing I really love about TCU is they do not allow other teams to control games
01:32 against them other than maybe I was stayed on the road, TCU has been in every game for
01:39 pretty much the whole game even once they've lost.
01:42 And that's really encouraging to me we've seen in the last two years, a TCU team that
01:46 would win big games and then struggle at other times with some some double digit losses,
01:53 and this team has remained steady and consistent.
01:56 I think there are a lot of factors that but overall, I've been pleased and really excited
02:00 about this team.
02:02 I'm curious to know like, obviously you've you watch a lot of TCU you know a lot about
02:07 this team.
02:08 I'm curious to know what what the biggest surprise for you about this team has been
02:11 this year.
02:12 Absolutely, I think the easy answer there is the offense I mean, you think about Jamie
02:18 Dixon, ever since he's been coaching basketball, defense has been the main priority for him
02:25 to think about a team and we I think he said it last year, we want to be the best defensive
02:30 team in the country.
02:31 We've got guys like Micah Peavy who are some of the better on ball defenders that we see
02:36 in the big 12.
02:37 And Dixon just strives to be great defensively, and then tries to just be quick and efficient
02:45 offensively obviously Damian ball was a huge leader, Mike miles of the fast break offense
02:50 and they're still very fast.
02:53 But for TCU and Kim palm to be a number 26 offense in the country, and to be better offensively
02:59 scoring over 80 points a game than they are defensively is not something I saw coming.
03:06 And especially not once again, without a team that has necessarily a an elite bucket getter,
03:12 or a guy that could score at will, I was expecting it for it to be the opposite.
03:17 And if anything, this team has, when it's lost, it has been because of defense, not
03:23 offense.
03:24 And so that has really been surprising to me.
03:26 And I think what's good is when you go into March, you either want to have two things,
03:31 one of two things, a great offense, or a dude who in big moments can get big buckets for
03:36 you.
03:37 And so TCU is TBD on the second one, it's come and it's gone this year.
03:41 But the first one is for sure there.
03:44 He's got a really good offense.
03:46 And so I'm encouraged by that.
03:48 And honestly, they shot free throws really well on Saturday, too, which since I've been
03:51 at TCU has never been true of a Jamie Dixon squad.
03:54 So yeah, I think that's probably on offensive and the biggest thing I've been surprised
03:58 by.
03:59 Yeah, you mentioned the guards to obviously losing Mike and dB, who are obviously are
04:04 arguably your best players last year.
04:06 How have you what have been your thoughts of Avery Anderson, Tennyson and Jameer because
04:11 they've had bright spots and they also have this year.
04:13 So how do you think they progress, especially heading into March here?
04:17 Yeah, it's been interesting early on you saw Avery.
04:22 Well, you saw Jameer be the start the starting guy.
04:26 And then over over time, it seems like man, maybe Jameer needs a little time to develop.
04:30 And so he kind of moved to the bench, which made sense and was really helpful for him,
04:35 I think to kind of just get adjusted.
04:37 You know, it's underrated how hard it is to start a game at this level, even for a guy
04:41 that's been in college basketball for five years.
04:44 And Avery had just done it in this conference for so long, that was really helpful.
04:48 But from Avery, we saw flashes of greatness, but just some inefficiency, and even some
04:53 turnover issues.
04:55 And then some really cool poise from Jameer and the Baylor game, which I think is one
04:59 of the biggest wins of the whole season for any team in the country this year.
05:05 And so that was a really, in my opinion, that was a cool turning point for Jameer of like,
05:09 man, some real confidence gained.
05:12 And so when it comes to strictly the point guards, I lean Jameer over Avery, but they
05:17 both have inefficiency issues.
05:20 And we haven't seen this year any of the Avery Anderson that cooked Baylor in the 2021 Big
05:26 12 tournament.
05:27 We haven't seen in every game that Jameer Nelson that was unstoppable down the stretch
05:32 in Foster Pavilion.
05:34 Even the game winner they had against Kansas State, he had a pretty poor shooting day that
05:38 day.
05:39 And it's kind of hard to trust a dude that is shooting 27% from three to take a big time
05:43 shot.
05:44 You know, thank goodness he hit it, which is awesome.
05:47 But and then when you talk about Trey, you know, he's part of the guards, but more of
05:52 obviously that like three roll.
05:54 And I love what he brings.
05:56 He's an elite shooter.
05:58 What we have seen in the last four games only has had double digit threes.
06:03 And one of those games obviously was 0 for 4 against Tech.
06:06 And so it seems like he too has lapses where his confidence dips.
06:11 And it's one of those things where man, he sometimes needs the shots to come to him,
06:15 which early in Big 12 play felt like that was not characteristic of him that he was
06:19 seeking hunting shots.
06:21 And so I'm not exactly sure where that is coming from, because the Trey that was playing
06:26 in early January was just, it seemed like he had all the confidence in the world when
06:30 it came to a green light.
06:31 In the last couple of games, he's kind of slowed down that area.
06:33 So to summarize all of this, I love what all three of them bring.
06:38 And I'm excited about each of them.
06:39 And I think their their experience, each of them have been experienced at the college
06:43 level Trey and Avery have played in the NCAA tournament is helpful, but their inefficiency
06:49 is an issue.
06:50 And you do need to have great guard play to win in March.
06:53 And so hoping that the of these next four games and the Big 12 tournament can really
06:57 kind of hammer that out when it comes to that rotation.
07:00 Yeah.
07:01 Yeah, another guy, when we had you on last, I think we talked a little bit about Jacobi
07:06 Coles, because at the time he had been playing really well.
07:09 But a couple of games after that, he got hurt.
07:12 And he missed a couple games came back and really wasn't the same guy at all.
07:18 And in the last couple weeks, he's kind of returned to form.
07:21 He's coming off the bench.
07:23 He's scored in double digits, I think six of the last seven games, something like that.
07:29 How important is he, especially when he's coming off the bench?
07:32 How important is it that, you know, he's playing well, and he's he's able to give TCU some
07:37 bucket getting off the bench?
07:39 Yeah, what I love about Jacobi Coles is his game is so smooth.
07:45 And almost always he is going to be a mismatch for whoever you're playing.
07:51 And so you you saw on Saturday against since the I forget exactly how to say his name,
07:57 but Ben Ben Dago Ben Dogo from since he just did not know what to do a seven footer, who
08:04 isn't necessarily super fluid in his movement against a six age of Kobe Coles, and we often
08:10 saw Jacobi would just turn around and be open.
08:12 And so obviously, not every team has a big like that.
08:15 And that's not necessarily always going to be the case.
08:18 But I what I like about his game is it's so fluid, and he can score on all three levels.
08:23 And because of his size, he's not a true big, but he's also not a guard.
08:28 It really, really helps create mismatches for TCU.
08:32 And we saw early during his injury, his movement just wasn't there.
08:37 I think his knee slash leg was just really not allowing him to move the ball well.
08:42 And I mean, we saw a stretch of I think it was 10 games where he was in single single
08:47 digits.
08:48 And then kind of like you said, Davis, he's turned it on since and Saturday, he was just
08:52 phenomenal.
08:53 Six for 1018 points, and almost didn't miss.
08:57 And so I really liked that.
08:58 Obviously, we saw in the last since the game, he kind of missed that potential game winner,
09:02 or maybe it was a game tire, but I love his game when he shoots confidently.
09:07 It's really effective for TCU creates mismatches.
09:09 And to me, on the offensive end, he's one of the two or three most important guys on
09:14 this team, kind of going down the stretch.
09:17 Yeah, I want to talk a little bit to about more of the broader look of the big 12.
09:22 As we get down the stretch here.
09:24 TCU is currently ranked fourth, I believe in the big 12 standings.
09:27 And where do you see them lie with the rest of, you know, the best conference in the world?
09:33 And what big 12 teams do you see going the farthest in March?
09:36 Yeah, no, it's a great question.
09:40 Obviously, the big 12 is interesting, because it's one of those things where it is the best
09:46 team in the country because of how well every team does on any given night.
09:52 I mean, West Virginia really is the only team that I would say is an easy win at this point.
09:58 And we even see them compete at times.
10:01 But what is interesting about this conference right now is it does not have a clear standout
10:09 from the from the core group.
10:12 Houston right now is obviously king.
10:15 And if that metric were a top 20 offensive and defensive team wins an addy, which has
10:21 been true since 2002.
10:23 Houston is the only team from this conference that has a chance to win an addy.
10:26 So obviously, any year could break that.
10:28 But first off, my thought is obviously Houston matters a ton.
10:31 They're the best defense in the country.
10:33 And they have a real leader with real experience and Jamal shed.
10:37 What's interesting about them is they had go through scoring lapses, and we saw it on
10:41 Saturday.
10:42 And that's really, really hard for you in March to win if you go through a lot of scoring
10:47 lapses like that.
10:48 Iowa State obviously has been dominant, and they've just done well at winning games, especially
10:54 close ones.
10:55 Obviously, besides that Baylor game, where Jaden Nunn had that game winner, I will say
11:00 has done a really good job of finishing games well.
11:04 But what's interesting to me is not a lot of experience there, and not also not a true
11:08 leader.
11:09 And once again, I think that's really important in March.
11:11 And so to me, I don't consider them one of the top contenders to go far and even see
11:16 the late tournament.
11:17 To me, it really is Houston.
11:19 Baylor as well.
11:20 I love Jacoby Walter.
11:22 And I think what he brings to Baylor is a killer who is not afraid to take big time
11:26 shots, not afraid to miss big time shots.
11:29 And his confidence as it grows, would just turn him into what they were really hoping
11:35 they would get last year and just maybe didn't.
11:38 And so I'm really interested to see what Baylor does down the stretch, especially if Yves
11:42 Meissi doesn't have an inefficient game like he did yesterday.
11:46 And then Kansas is super interesting as well, because they do have two dudes who are all
11:50 American level players, but their depth and ability to guard at all five positions is
11:55 pretty low.
11:56 And that's pretty uncharacteristic of a Bill Self's team.
11:59 So to me, the two contenders to go deep in this tournament from the Big 12 are Baylor
12:03 and Yves H. And then I see, you know, a couple teams, including the ones I've mentioned,
12:08 but also a Texas Tech to do really well in the tournament.
12:13 And the last team, I think, which is kind of something that is an unpopular opinion,
12:17 I think Texas has the dudes on their roster to absolutely make a run.
12:22 Two years ago, we saw them go through a really interesting season where it seemed like they
12:27 were discombobulated during the season.
12:29 It was the last year of Marcus or Timmy Allen and Marcus Carr was in his his first year
12:34 with the program.
12:35 And then once they got to the tournament, they had a really nice win and a really nice
12:39 performance in the tournament, because they just had dudes and they guard well.
12:43 And I think that's the same of this team.
12:45 Max Acemas has been at the tournament many times.
12:48 He's experienced Dylan Dessau is unguardable and when he's hot, he is unstoppable.
12:54 And so I think Texas is kind of my dark horse here to make maybe a sweet 16 or a lead eight
12:58 run, even though they've been people have been pretty down on them.
13:02 Teams like Oklahoma, BYU, I'm not super high on Kansas State since it'll be interesting
13:08 if they get in.
13:09 I kind of feel like since he is probably an NIT team and Kansas State could potentially
13:13 float in if they get some wins on the stretch.
13:16 And then I won't talk about necessarily TCU specifically, but I do like TCU, obviously.
13:21 So that's a lot.
13:22 There's so much to say.
13:23 This conference is huge.
13:25 But those are kind of general thoughts when it comes to the conference.
13:29 Yeah.
13:30 And for TCU specifically, obviously, the last two years, they've gotten to that round of
13:35 32 and have fallen just short kind of both times.
13:39 And so this year, I'm wondering what is it that gets them to the next level?
13:45 What what is what needs to happen?
13:47 And obviously, this has a lot to do with, you know, who they who they play, the seeding,
13:52 all that.
13:53 But, you know, what is it that's going to push this team into like the sweet 16 for
14:00 the first time in a long time if that does happen?
14:03 Yeah, absolutely.
14:05 I mean, the easiest thing answer is when three of these last four win a big 12 tournament
14:11 game and don't get on that eight nine line again, like you're just asking to have to
14:18 play someone that is an impossible task.
14:21 Like who who wants to play Benedict Macaron, who wants to play Drew Timmy in the second
14:28 round?
14:29 Like that's just an impossible task.
14:30 And what's funny is that I really think I think I said this on this podcast before,
14:34 if Eddie Lampkin plays for TCU last year, I think TCU makes a sweet 16 because someone
14:39 can guard your Timmy.
14:40 So what's cool is you don't want to continue to be that team who's just almost there anymore.
14:47 And that requires sometimes work in the regular season.
14:50 And TCU is doing it for the first time.
14:53 They're putting in the work.
14:55 TCU, I said this, like they've never finished above 500 in big 12 play.
15:00 And so to do that, you give yourself an opportunity to be a succeed and get to play an 11 and
15:05 then a three and then, you know, even a two and sweet 16 instead of having to face that
15:10 one.
15:11 But then beyond that, and it's something they've shown that they can do this season.
15:15 It's playing complete basketball, something that they did not do against Gonzaga last
15:20 year was play complete basketball.
15:21 We saw Mike Miles played super, super well.
15:24 But other guys had tough nights and they were able to exploit that.
15:29 And especially down low with Drew Timmy.
15:31 And it just wasn't enough.
15:33 And so what's interesting about TCU is they're much more well rounded.
15:37 And that is the key to making a big run.
15:40 However, what I said in the fall with you guys still stands.
15:43 They need someone who's leading offensively.
15:48 And it hasn't been at the guard level somewhere I trust for sure at this point.
15:53 And then Emmanuel Miller is probably the best candidate, but still isn't always willing
15:59 to with conviction, get buckets on the regular.
16:03 And so he's scoring well, especially when the game comes to him.
16:07 But in March, like I said, typically, you need great guard play, especially leadership
16:11 at that level.
16:12 So yeah, I think TCU is the best boys they've ever been to make a sweet 16.
16:18 And I don't want to say this year is a failure if they don't, but it's absolutely would not
16:23 be a year of like, heck, yes, we made the tournament and anything we do is a win where
16:29 it was two years ago.
16:30 And in some ways last year, this year, it was expected, and you earned it and now go
16:36 do something with it.
16:38 I think that's really interesting.
16:39 Yeah.
16:40 Yeah, I want to talk a little bit about Mike Miles.
16:43 Because I know you've had a chance to come close to them and cover him for so many years.
16:48 He had an interesting quote today on Mickey Miles podcast, you know, the new one started
16:51 up where he talked about his journey.
16:53 And he said, if you're not first round, my advice definitely would be to go back, you
16:57 would much rather enjoy that last year in college than be in the G League, which I thought
17:01 was a super interesting quote based on his decision to go pro last year.
17:06 What did you think of that decision?
17:08 Because he was obviously one of the best players in college basketball.
17:12 And how do you think it's it's fair for him?
17:14 And also for TCU sake, what would TCU's team look like this year, if he had stayed?
17:21 Yeah, that's a really good question.
17:24 I two years ago, and 2022, I really thought that Mike was going to be done.
17:33 And so I was, I was surprised and excited when he decided to come back.
17:40 And then this year, I knew he was gonna go, he had just told me and made it clear that
17:46 he was kind of done.
17:47 And so I think it's easy to hear that and be like, well, Mike, you didn't do that last
17:52 year.
17:53 And I think he just felt like his time and legacy had been cemented at TCU, it was, it
18:00 was time for them to bring in some new dudes, Damian Ball was leaving, it was just one of
18:04 those things where he just felt good about leaving.
18:08 And I also think Mike, probably based on what he did at TCU, did deserve to get drafted.
18:16 And so I think he thought that he and in some ways, people had told him not that he would
18:21 go in the first round, but he had first round level talent, and would find that success.
18:26 And so I think that to Mike Myles, who has had a couple months to kind of reflect on
18:30 how this is gone.
18:32 And I talked to him last fall.
18:34 And he told me man, the G League is not as hard as college basketball, like they don't
18:38 guard you the same way they do in the Big 12.
18:41 And so that's a really interesting thing.
18:43 And something I read is that second round picks only about a fifth of them stay in the
18:48 league for very long.
18:50 And so I think kind of his point there is, man, if you have the ability, where there
18:54 isn't things, there aren't things left on the table for you, or there are there still
18:58 are things left on the table for you at the school you're at, like do that and go back
19:03 and keep submitting your legacy.
19:05 Because if you're just chasing the bag in the NBA, the easiest way to say what he said
19:10 today is G League life is not it.
19:12 It just isn't.
19:13 And unless you're gonna you're gonna make your name in the NBA, like spend time in college
19:17 and enjoy it.
19:18 And so yeah, I think that's kind of what he meant by that.
19:22 And to answer your question about if he stayed.
19:25 It's interesting, Mike became a much better defender and learn like I think grew a lot
19:30 while he's at TCU.
19:32 But he the ball was just in his hands a lot.
19:34 And he did well with that his user was high.
19:37 But I think TCU offense may not be quite as efficient and effective as it is this year,
19:42 especially with a shooter like Trey, especially with an offense that gives a man a lot of
19:47 touches and things like that.
19:49 And so that is interesting.
19:51 I'm not sure if it would be better or worse.
19:53 But I do think just based on the way things ended up, it was good that Mike ended up end
19:59 up leaving and dude, I wish him the best.
20:01 And really hopeful as he's been growing in the G League that he gets a chance with the
20:04 Mavs or somewhere else.
20:07 So, yeah.
20:10 So we're kind of getting down here in the stretch.
20:13 March is right around the corner.
20:15 TCU has four regular season games left.
20:19 And we're recording this on Monday, the 26th.
20:21 We have Baylor tonight.
20:25 You said like when three out of these four win a tournament game, what is your what do
20:29 you think is going to happen with this team with the schedule they get Baylor at home,
20:33 BYU on the road, West Virginia on the road, UCF at home?
20:37 How do you see them faring in those four games?
20:41 And I guess, how do they take care of business in these last four games?
20:45 Yeah, that's a great question.
20:48 I think a lot of it hinges on tonight.
20:51 Whenever your seed kind of gets solidified, everything kind of goes out the window.
20:56 And so that last those last two games at BYU and UCF, I believe they are they are sorry
21:05 BYU first and then West Virginia, UCF, but even West Virginia on the road, those games
21:10 change in urgency for TCU based on where their seed is.
21:15 Like in 2022, TCU went on the road against West Virginia right for the Big 12 tournament.
21:22 West Virginia, besides Tash Sherman, was not good at all.
21:25 And they lost because they didn't care.
21:28 And so that'll be interesting.
21:29 But say TCU wins tonight, you get a chance for TCU to end up as high as a five if things
21:37 crazy happen as high as a four.
21:40 And that is really interesting.
21:42 So I think tonight really hinges on that.
21:45 I want to say they win tonight because I'm excited and I love TCU.
21:50 In reality, I think TCU probably wins two of these next four.
21:54 I feel really good about an Emmanuel Miller, Micah Peavy, Jacoby Cole senior night, March
22:00 9th win.
22:01 I know they've kind of celebrated them this week, but I feel good about that against UCF.
22:07 The two road games, they are up in the air.
22:10 And like I said, I think it depends on today.
22:12 The reason I said the two out of the two is just that would put you at above 500 on Big
22:17 12 play.
22:18 And routinely teams that do that have been higher than an eight or a nine seed and ended
22:22 up in that six, seven window.
22:25 And so I think that especially if you don't lose to an Oklahoma State or whoever in the
22:32 Big 12 championship, the Big 12 tournament, I think that would at least give them a really
22:39 good shot of getting out of that eight, nine line.
22:41 And so that's really interesting.
22:43 But yeah, what's cool is like, yeah, the verdict is not out on this team and the ceiling is
22:48 not.
22:49 So when the night very winnable game at home, you are putting an opportunity at TCU doing
22:54 something they haven't done since the tournament was made out of like 16 teams and that's be
22:59 a four, a four seed or around there.
23:02 And so that'd be a huge ceiling, but it's possible, especially given that TCU's last
23:07 three games are all super winnable.
23:09 So yeah.
23:10 Yeah.
23:11 And this has been awesome.
23:12 Again, we love having you on and time's kind of running out on us here.
23:15 But one last question, looking at a broader perspective of where TCU is at, barring disaster,
23:23 three straight years in the NCAA tournament for the first time ever.
23:26 Yeah.
23:27 How have you seen the growth of this team and senior night?
23:29 Like you said, like your Emmanuel Millers, your Micah Peavy, Jacoby, these core group
23:34 of guys who have been here all these years, how have you seen them develop and what has
23:38 it meant for the program?
23:39 Yeah, dude.
23:42 It's one of those things where TCU, after my freshman year, you saw just a massive exodus
23:48 of transfers.
23:49 And there were questions of like, what is, what is Jamie Dixon like?
23:53 Can he get people to commit?
23:54 Can he get people to, you know, be bought into his program?
23:59 And there are a couple factors that I think really, even the year they meant to the tournament,
24:04 it was like the first time, 2022, or at least first time since 2017, there were questions
24:10 of like, what is this?
24:11 Is this an anomaly?
24:12 Is Mike about to leave?
24:14 What's going on?
24:15 And so one, getting Mike to stay for three years when I'll tell you guys after a second
24:19 year, he could have gone a lot of places in the country, decided to come back for a third
24:25 year getting Emmanuel Miller to have been been one of the leading scorers in the SEC
24:31 to take a diminished role at TCU and then grow into who he is now getting Micah Peavy
24:37 to stay as long as he has, and really finally find the kind of pinnacle of his game.
24:44 It's just one of those things where Jamie Dixon has proven that he can get guys to buy
24:49 in that they like playing for him, and that he can build continued success, even without
24:56 dudes that are that are NBA talent.
25:00 And that is awesome.
25:02 And I think it's really cool for the state of the program.
25:04 You'll really help recruiting as you're going into a really awesome recruiting class for
25:09 TCU in this next year.
25:11 And I was told on Saturday that the guys on the bench right now that are redshirting Jace
25:19 Posey and why am I forgetting his the other name?
25:23 Isaiah Manning.
25:24 Isaiah Manning.
25:25 Yes, thank you.
25:27 That they're bought in.
25:28 They're excited.
25:29 They've loved the season and they really want to be here, especially Jace.
25:33 And so that's that's really hard to do in the in the basketball culture that we're in
25:38 right now.
25:39 And it's not easy.
25:40 And it's something I'm interested to see if Bruce Pearl has done with Aiden Holloway at
25:45 Auburn and if he can get him to stay this offseason and to get a guy to sit on the bench
25:50 the whole year is is not easy.
25:52 And so, yeah, Jamie Dixon has built a cool culture.
25:56 At some point does need to lead to more success in the tournament.
26:00 So hoping that happens this year.
26:02 But the trajectory is still up and it's really been cool to see.
26:08 Yeah, yeah.
26:09 Well, that's all the time we have here.
26:11 But you're the man.
26:13 I mean, getting to meet you at Cincy this Saturday was awesome.
26:16 Finally seeing you in person.
26:17 And it's it means a lot to us having having you on here.
26:21 And, you know, recurring guests front of the pod.
26:24 Another another great time talking.
26:25 So I just want to say thanks again.
26:27 Yeah, thank you so much, man.
26:28 It's always great talking to you with you.
26:30 And you're super generous to come back on and talk again.
26:35 Yeah, well, thank you guys for saying that.
26:38 I really respect what you guys are doing.
26:40 I love it.
26:41 I love the coverage.
26:42 And I'm just a dude who loves big 12 hoops, bro.
26:46 So I'm thankful to get to spend time with you all and don't feel like anything special
26:49 and love getting to talk about it.
26:51 So yeah, hope the game goes well tonight, Nick, and enjoy that environment, bro.
26:55 It's gonna be crazy.
26:56 So it should be.
26:57 It reminds me of like, I think it was two years ago today with that first tech rush,
27:02 you know, that type of environment.
27:04 It's one of those days on campus today.
27:05 So I'm stoked for it.
27:06 And hopefully we can pull out the win.
27:08 Yeah.
27:09 Good.
27:10 Love it, boys.
27:11 Well, dude, thanks for having me on.
27:12 Hope y'all are doing well.
27:13 And let me know if you ever need anything and appreciate you guys having me on.
27:16 Definitely.
27:17 Thanks again.
27:18 Have a good one.
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