Kendrick Bourne on Patriots free agency, ACL recovery and next season | Pats Interference
Patriots wide receiver Kendrick Bourne makes his show debut in a tell-all interview covering his free agency, the Patriots' new regime, when he expects to be fully recovered from his torn ACL and his goals for next season. Later, Andrew welcomes another listener for a two-person mailbag segment.
TIMELINE:
0:00 Intro
0:30 Thoughts on Free Agency
2:20 Patriots need to add WRs
6:07 Kendrick Bourne joins show
6:22 Bourne on working out w/ Tyquan, Pop & Zappe
7:50 Bourne's new deal
9:30 Bourne inspired by The Dynasty
11:20 ACL recovery, injury timeline
15:15 Kendrick Bourne on new offense
16:48 Bourne on Alex Van Pelt
19:25 Bourne: OTAs is important
20:50 Bourne reacts to Mac Jones being traded
22:20 Bourne on Pats QB situation: Rookie, Jacoby & Zappe
24:11 Kendrick on Eliot Wolf, negotiations
30:08 Bourne's goals
34:58 Fan Segment
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TIMELINE:
0:00 Intro
0:30 Thoughts on Free Agency
2:20 Patriots need to add WRs
6:07 Kendrick Bourne joins show
6:22 Bourne on working out w/ Tyquan, Pop & Zappe
7:50 Bourne's new deal
9:30 Bourne inspired by The Dynasty
11:20 ACL recovery, injury timeline
15:15 Kendrick Bourne on new offense
16:48 Bourne on Alex Van Pelt
19:25 Bourne: OTAs is important
20:50 Bourne reacts to Mac Jones being traded
22:20 Bourne on Pats QB situation: Rookie, Jacoby & Zappe
24:11 Kendrick on Eliot Wolf, negotiations
30:08 Bourne's goals
34:58 Fan Segment
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Transcript
00:00 [MUSIC]
00:10 Fantastic episode here for you today.
00:16 Kendrick Bourne on a variety of topics for almost 30 minutes.
00:20 If you're listening, I'm just gonna tell you made a great choice.
00:22 We're gonna get to him in a second though, because as happy and
00:25 optimistic as you'll hear Kendrick about next season and his recovery,
00:29 is he gonna be at minicamp in June?
00:32 And the Patriots and his free agency and everything that went on.
00:35 I know a lot of you listening to this are not as optimistic about the New England
00:38 Patriots have treated free agency largely, as Mike Shearer already last put it,
00:42 a way to run it back with a core from a 4-13 team.
00:46 I don't think that's an entirely fair way to characterize what the Patriots have
00:50 done, but if you were hung up on Calvin Ridley,
00:53 who signed with the Titans for four years, 92 million, 50 million of which
00:58 was guaranteed, I absolutely get it.
01:00 I asked for mailbag questions this morning and yesterday.
01:04 I'd say 90% of them were just venting about the state of the Patriots,
01:08 totally fair.
01:09 I wanna make clear, I wanted the Patriots to sign Calvin Ridley.
01:13 I thought it was good business.
01:14 They at that price tag, which let's be clear,
01:17 23 million puts him per year in the top 10, all receivers.
01:22 Total value, top 10 for all receivers, guarantees puts him in the top 10.
01:26 So he's being paid like a receiver, he is not the marketable change.
01:29 But if the Patriots wanted him, they could not have merely matched that
01:33 contract based on everyone's favorite topic around free agency, income tax, okay?
01:38 As well as cost of living.
01:39 Now, that would mean going to 25 million a year.
01:43 Let's just say roughly, generally.
01:46 If you're comfortable with paying $25 million per year for Calvin Ridley and
01:49 going upwards of 50, maybe more million in guarantees as Mike Shearer was last
01:53 episode, great, that's where it ends, this stinks.
01:57 I'm not gonna argue with you, okay?
01:59 It's totally fair to feel that way, given the history of the Patriots,
02:02 their needs, etc.
02:02 I understand why they didn't make that offer, okay?
02:07 And I outlined a lot of this in the last episode.
02:09 Again, it's in the first, I think, 15, 20 minutes, which you already.
02:13 If you wanna listen to the reasons why you would be hesitant for that,
02:15 I would just go back there.
02:16 We're not gonna spend too much time here.
02:18 What I will say though, that is new, is this.
02:21 The Patriots cannot whatsoever unequivocally stand pat with this
02:26 receiving core, because just as they did with DeAndre Hopkins eight months ago,
02:31 when the Titans also outbid the red borderline number one receiver,
02:35 they have one of the worst receiving cores in the league.
02:37 And yes, they can add to this in the draft, where famously, everyone,
02:40 whenever you tweet about the draft, we'll remind you, there's no guarantees.
02:43 Yes, folks, that's the draft.
02:45 But even though Hollywood Brown, even though Tyler Boyd,
02:50 even Odell Beckham Jr. is not Calvin Ridley, Calvin Ridley also,
02:54 not Mike Evans or Michael Pittman or T.H. Higgins, are actual number one receivers.
02:57 They will improve, one of them could, the current receiving core,
03:02 which you cannot win in the modern NFL with.
03:05 That being said, and the Patriots need to add infrangercy in the draft,
03:09 that is my full take, full stop, period, end of story.
03:11 I think everyone needs to take a deep breath and
03:14 reset expectations will be for next season.
03:17 Because frankly, I just assumed we were all on the same page,
03:21 that this Patriots team coming up in 2024 is only gonna win about six,
03:26 maybe seven games, and probably less.
03:29 We'll see what the Vegas over under is set at, which nailed the Patriots last year,
03:32 by the way, at about six and a half, and they came in at four.
03:35 Disaster of a season, some bad luck, sure, but as the folks say, Vegas knows.
03:41 So what I'm saying here is, the goal is not to win immediately and
03:46 as much as possible in 2024.
03:48 This is a long term vision, which is what rebuilds are about.
03:52 Rebuilding is a long term plan, two, three, four years down the road.
03:58 If you have a great rebuild, it'll be like the Lions, who did this in three years,
04:01 made the NFC Championship game, okay?
04:03 They were smartly not all in, and I get they have a ton of cap space.
04:06 I get they have a lot of draft capital.
04:08 But the Patriots also retained a lot of their young core players,
04:11 which Elliott Wolfe told you he would do.
04:13 So again, this is not to dismiss your frustration.
04:17 I feel a little bit annoyed that they've not done any kind of big splash, and
04:20 it's been very quiet.
04:21 But all of the deals they've done make business sense in terms of value,
04:25 in terms of positionally.
04:26 Now they should add a receiver or left tackle here in for agency.
04:30 Again, go sign Tyler Boyd, go get Marquise Hollywood Brown.
04:35 Even if it's not ideal, that ship has sailed and that ship was Calvin Ridley.
04:38 You still need to add.
04:40 I expect that they will.
04:41 Hopefully it's one of those names or someone of the same caliber.
04:45 We will see.
04:46 In the meantime, that's my unofficial answer to all the questions, by the way.
04:50 Sorry, we'll get to more of them next week.
04:52 Kendrick Bourne is coming up.
04:54 And on the back end, a new guest, Jordan Voss, our third fan guest,
04:59 where you get a five, seven, sometimes eight minute segment of your own
05:03 in this podcast if you A, ask a mailbag question, and B,
05:06 show proof of donation to Boston Children's Hospital.
05:09 It can be as little as $1.
05:10 You heard me say a million times, every single dollar counts.
05:13 So if you want to be on this show, reply to my mimic tweets with a question
05:18 and a screenshot of your donation to Boston Children's,
05:21 or email me with the same information, your question, and then proof of receipt.
05:26 Now I might open this up to some other charities
05:30 because we've got a couple people backlogged,
05:32 but we might run out of them in a couple of weeks
05:34 for things to slow down.
05:35 That's fine.
05:35 All money going to charity is good money.
05:38 But for now, we have Kendrick Bourne.
05:40 We have Jordan Voss.
05:41 I would just say, everyone, it's going to be a long road and a long rebuild.
05:47 Might be underwhelming, totally fine.
05:48 But I promise you, you will feel better at the end of this conversation
05:51 with Kendrick Bourne, which, heads up, his audio cuts a little bit in and out,
05:56 never for a long period of time.
05:58 That's annoying to me.
05:59 It's a pet peeve.
05:59 But just, again, through it, the rest of free agency, in this interview,
06:03 Kendrick was great.
06:04 And we're not going to wait any more.
06:06 Here he comes.
06:06 All right, one of the people's favorite patriots
06:08 on the podcast for the first time, Kendrick Bourne making his Pats
06:11 Interference debut.
06:13 He's back in his native Portland.
06:14 He's got a fresh three-year contract to stay in New England.
06:17 He told everyone that he wanted to stay, and he did.
06:19 But Kendrick, I want to start in the obvious place
06:21 here because you are not alone in Portland.
06:23 You're working out at Nike headquarters, Bailey Zappi,
06:25 Taekwon Thornton, Pop Douglas.
06:27 There's a video that you posted that made me wonder,
06:30 what are you feeding Taekwon that he could stay in Portland
06:34 and have a career as a bouncer?
06:35 The man looks massive.
06:38 He's just eating, man, eating, lifting weights.
06:42 He's trying to get to, like, 200 pounds, just build his durability,
06:48 something we've been working on.
06:49 He signed with the same agency as me.
06:53 And so it's been dope to just get closer with him,
06:58 just give him advice on how to have longevity in certain things
07:03 as a leader, trying to be a leader, a better leader for young guys,
07:06 and just being a leader for my team, you know what I mean?
07:08 Being an example.
07:10 And also being a vocal leader, working on being more vocal,
07:13 and just telling him those little things, you know, that'll be good for him.
07:16 So he's been lifting, man.
07:17 He was lifting before he actually got here.
07:20 And so he came in looking really big, and I was just proud of him.
07:22 I'm like, bro, this tells me that you're locked in, bro,
07:25 and you want something out of this year.
07:27 So just proud of that guy and the progress he's made so far.
07:30 So we've just been working, and I just got to keep it going.
07:34 Yeah, I like it.
07:34 All right, we got a lot to get to, setting aside Taekwon's weight gain,
07:37 which, look, good for him.
07:38 I think everyone sees the talent.
07:40 You want to see it flourish.
07:41 And you're a guy who understood what it took to thrive in the NFL a little bit
07:45 later in your career.
07:45 So that sounds like a good situation for him to be in.
07:48 But you are staying in New England because you agreed, last Sunday,
07:51 three years, $19.5 million contract.
07:54 Take us through what you were thinking earlier that day about whether a deal
07:58 would get done or not when you got the call that it was done,
08:02 and then what you do next.
08:03 So me and Henry, obviously my agent, he just
08:09 keep me up to date about what's going on and where the numbers are at,
08:13 what we're looking for, what makes sense.
08:16 And so kind of just in the unknowing, in a sense, but at the same time,
08:22 just kind of in the loop.
08:23 So not really stressing, knowing what I'm worth,
08:27 but also knowing that that's somewhere I wanted to be.
08:30 So if that's what the Patriots felt was worth what I was worth,
08:36 then I was OK with that.
08:37 Just negotiating.
08:38 And so I was really in the unknown, not really calling and stressing,
08:41 Henry, what is going on?
08:43 I'm just being calm and just going through my normal day.
08:46 And then later on that day when he called me and gave me the final numbers
08:50 that they kind of agreed on and Henry thought was fair on our side
08:54 and their side, he ran it down to me.
08:57 And I was just like, nah, I like the deal.
08:59 I'm not really chasing a billion dollars.
09:00 I'm really chasing the legacy.
09:03 And I've been watching Dynasty lately and just love the story
09:06 the Patriots have, obviously, and want to build something like that,
09:09 be a part of something like that.
09:10 So when he told me the numbers and we agreed,
09:15 it was definitely heartwarming, man.
09:17 And it's just time now.
09:19 The path is set, and it's time to get to work.
09:21 So it's funny you mentioned the Dynasty, because I talked about that
09:24 with Dev last week.
09:26 And you think it's for the former players, right?
09:28 Like they lived it.
09:29 They were in it.
09:30 But I never thought of it as this indirect recruiting pitch.
09:33 Like, stay here.
09:34 Watch the doc in the meantime while negotiations are going on.
09:37 It seems like it had an imprint on you.
09:38 What do you think of it so far?
09:40 It does, bro.
09:41 It's just impressive.
09:42 It gives you the insights.
09:43 You know, it's just-- it goes deeper.
09:45 There's a lot that goes on within the organization.
09:47 I feel like they've given an insight of what people haven't really seen
09:53 or known.
09:53 It's kind of a deeper insight.
09:54 You know, we all know how Bill is of being secretive and not
09:58 wanting people to be let in.
10:00 And I think it was good for what's about to happen.
10:03 I think it's going to be more open with Gerard, you know.
10:06 And I'm excited.
10:07 And it's just crazy timing for me to be on Bill's last team
10:12 and now to be coming back and to just be a part of the new culture,
10:17 whatever may happen.
10:18 We don't know.
10:18 I don't know.
10:19 No one knows.
10:19 We have to see, obviously.
10:21 But it's exciting to be a part.
10:23 And that was one of the biggest triggers for me to come back
10:28 was because I believe that it's going to be very fruitful being
10:32 a patriot in this new era.
10:34 So love Bill to death, as we all know.
10:36 I definitely do.
10:37 But it was time, man.
10:39 And I want to be a part of Gerard's legacy
10:42 and to see what's to flourish.
10:45 All right, we're going to get to a lot of that,
10:47 because you are open from the get-go.
10:49 If we were co-hosts right now, you would
10:50 think we were teammates for a year, because you're
10:51 setting me up left and right.
10:52 But I got to ask you the questions about your ACL,
10:55 because before you can contribute to whatever
10:57 that culture is going to be, before you have your eyes set
10:59 on more championships or whatever,
11:01 you have to get on the field.
11:02 And I've been reporting--
11:03 Yes.
11:03 --talking to people close to you,
11:05 that you're ahead of schedule.
11:06 This is all very good news.
11:07 What do the next couple of months look like for you?
11:10 Because you'll have mini camp in June.
11:12 What are your next checkpoints?
11:13 Like, when are you running?
11:14 When do you expect to be 100%?
11:16 What are you looking at?
11:17 That's a good question.
11:18 So this month, next month, I'll be running.
11:21 So right now, I'm just building up strength,
11:23 building my quads back up, building
11:25 the muscles around my knee, glutes, to all help my knee,
11:29 you know, just get the stress off.
11:32 Thank God it wasn't a contact injury--
11:34 I mean, non-contact injury.
11:35 So it wasn't my running mechanics, which
11:37 is a blessing.
11:38 It was contact.
11:39 So it wasn't nothing I was doing wrong mechanically.
11:42 So those steps that I'm taking are good.
11:44 Everything is kind of back to normal, in a sense.
11:47 It's just relearning how to break down.
11:49 So my biggest thing is I can run right now.
11:53 I can run full speed.
11:53 I can jump.
11:54 It's just the landing, it's the stopping that I'm really
11:57 focusing on right now.
11:59 So this first four months was really good for me.
12:01 I really attacked it head on with my guy Alex
12:04 from Dr. Andrews.
12:06 He came out here from Florida, and he's been helping me.
12:09 And so this first four months, I really
12:11 attacked, and I can tell that I am ahead of schedule.
12:14 Like, I would honestly say, I thought,
12:16 was it like if it sucked, but it's been very positive.
12:20 And so my plan is to be ready, just to be rehabbing
12:24 all through mini camp.
12:27 You know, the Patriots are going to have me on a routine,
12:29 and I trust their process.
12:31 I trust what they're going to do.
12:32 So this first four months was all up to me
12:35 and how I attacked rehab.
12:36 And then going to a team, being around the guys
12:39 is going to help me so much for competing,
12:42 just getting motivated, being around the energy.
12:45 I feel like it's going to take me to pass
12:47 that next step of recovery.
12:50 So mini camp, I probably won't be a part of mini camp.
12:52 OTAs, I probably would not be a part of.
12:54 I'll be on the side doing my own thing.
12:57 Mini camp, I'm saying mini camp.
12:58 OTAs, I won't be.
12:59 But mini camp, I'll be primed and pretty much ready.
13:02 And then real camp, I'll be ready to go.
13:05 So Dr. gave me the full go, which is exciting.
13:08 So that is the plan, and I'm looking to be out there.
13:11 So I'm really excited, man.
13:14 I'm trying to get comeback player of the year, baby.
13:16 Comeback player of the year, I love it.
13:18 So just to be clear, mini camp and junior,
13:21 aiming to run and be a full participant,
13:23 I know the team's going to have some sort of say,
13:25 and training camp is the bigger deal.
13:26 But that's your goal right now?
13:28 Exactly.
13:28 So I was-- yeah, I was sorry to confuse you guys.
13:30 OTAs, I will not be really out there, obviously.
13:34 But then mini camp, I'm priming.
13:35 That's when I should be most primed up, getting ready,
13:38 kind of re-changing the oil, getting it going.
13:41 And then training camp, I should be full go.
13:44 So I'm excited for that.
13:46 All right, we're being real for a second.
13:47 You missing OTAs, it's not that bad, right?
13:52 Oh, no.
13:52 Yeah, not that bad.
13:54 And so that's a good point.
13:56 So getting close with Alex, trying to get the playbook,
13:59 knowing what I'm doing, kind of being around.
14:02 I'm not going to not be present.
14:04 I want to be there because it's a new offense,
14:06 our fourth new offense in four years for me.
14:09 So it's kind of crazy, but just attacking head on,
14:12 it's a challenge.
14:13 And just staying close to the coaches, the players,
14:17 and knowing my role once I'm able to get back out there
14:20 so I'm not behind or anything like that.
14:22 So more mental thing for me right now.
14:25 And then when I'm ready to go, putting it all together.
14:28 So yeah, not too bad.
14:29 Yeah, mental reps is what I was getting at.
14:30 It's not so bad.
14:31 You guys want to run and work out and go nuts in April and May?
14:34 Like, yeah, that's cool by me.
14:35 I got to stay here, doctor's orders.
14:38 Exactly.
14:39 So when we talked to your new offensive coordinator,
14:41 Alex Van Pelt, a couple of months ago--
14:44 maybe it was last month--
14:45 he said, it'll be mostly the Browns offense,
14:48 but I need to wait and see what offensive linemen I have,
14:50 what receivers I have, to kind of build the rest of it out.
14:53 And I'm curious what you think the offseason has
14:55 been like so far.
14:56 Because most of the moves have just
14:58 been to retain guys like Mike on Wenu, you're back,
15:01 Hunter Henry's back, on defense Kyle Duggar, Josh Huche.
15:05 DP gets cut, team misses out on Calvin Ridley.
15:08 What do you make of the roster that will obviously
15:10 set up the offense in whatever the season's going to be at?
15:13 I think we have the pieces.
15:16 I feel like we've had the pieces for the last four years.
15:18 And I think Alex is going to put it together a way
15:22 obviously nobody has.
15:25 So I'm excited to see how he operates.
15:28 I love Cleveland's offense.
15:29 I loved how they did things.
15:32 Elijah Mitchell-- not Eli-- what's his name?
15:34 The receiver--
15:35 Moore, Elijah Moore.
15:36 Elijah Moore, OK, Mitchell.
15:37 Yeah, so he kind of went for the Jets over there
15:40 and kind of had a better role.
15:43 Alex knew how to use them, unlike the Jets did.
15:45 Not to make it about him, but that shows me that Alex
15:49 knows how to use strengths.
15:50 He knows how to use traits that we carry as players.
15:53 So I like what he's saying.
15:55 He has to wait to evaluate.
15:56 He's not just going in there saying,
15:58 I'm going to put Bourne here and Tycone here.
16:01 He knows.
16:01 He has to see.
16:02 He has to evaluate.
16:03 He has to see us in person, see how we run,
16:06 see what we're good at, the skill sets.
16:09 Pop has a special skill set that I
16:11 feel like he's going to show the world more
16:14 than we saw last year.
16:15 So just those different tools that he'll put together
16:19 for us to be a good offense.
16:21 And obviously, the draft and stuff is different, too.
16:23 So it all has to come together.
16:25 And I like how he answered that question,
16:26 because he doesn't know until we all can come together.
16:29 So that's a pretty good answer.
16:31 And it sounds like a logical answer.
16:35 Logical.
16:36 It's good.
16:36 Sometimes we haven't had a whole lot of logical
16:38 the last couple of years while doing a KPS offense, which
16:41 I will say-- and you can stay silent.
16:43 Have you talked with ABP, though?
16:45 Have you talked with Alex?
16:46 So I met him.
16:47 So when I came out there recently,
16:48 I ran into him in the hotel.
16:51 So I stayed at the Renaissance.
16:53 And I ran into him, TC, and I think it was the O-line coach.
16:59 One of them.
16:59 I didn't know who the O-line coach was.
17:01 Scott, yeah.
17:02 So I ran into all of them.
17:04 Scott Peters is not like your accountant.
17:06 This dude played offensive line.
17:07 He has his own gym.
17:09 Massive dude.
17:10 He was massive.
17:11 I shook his hand.
17:12 I was like, yo, yo, who are you?
17:14 But it was cool.
17:15 So yeah, I met him all.
17:16 Ran into him.
17:17 It was kind of God-ordained, man, how I ran into him.
17:21 And I was just excited to see him.
17:22 And just chopped it up with him, introduced myself.
17:25 And that was my first time meeting him.
17:26 And then when I went in the next day, I went to his office,
17:30 chopped it up with him.
17:31 And he just was excited, too.
17:32 All the guys were excited.
17:34 Just bringing my energy in there, man.
17:35 They could feel my energy, as a lot of people do,
17:37 which is a blessing and a trait I carry.
17:40 And so it was dope to get-- to break the ice early
17:43 before just coming out there.
17:45 And so kind of get-- so now I'm trying to--
17:47 I'm going to connect with him again,
17:48 now that I'm on the team officially.
17:50 So I'm excited.
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19:02 All right, so talent, obviously, is the number one driver
19:08 of winning in the NFL, right?
19:09 But other things contribute.
19:10 You talk about player usage on the coaching side,
19:13 energy in the locker room, leadership, work ethic,
19:15 all those different things.
19:17 We don't know what the talent level is going to be like,
19:18 because we're still in free agency.
19:20 The draft is yet to come.
19:21 Front office might even make a couple of trades.
19:23 Setting that aside, though, what do
19:25 you think the 2024 Patriots need to learn
19:28 and take from last year to fix that
19:31 will help you maximize whatever that talent is next season?
19:36 I think-- I like when you brought up OTAs.
19:38 I think OTAs is going to be important for us.
19:42 And we got a new coach, so I think
19:44 we're starting earlier, right?
19:46 Yes.
19:47 So yeah, so those little things, people being present,
19:50 us building that camaraderie off the field.
19:52 So you talk about Taekwon and Pop, Zappi being here.
19:55 I love that those guys came out here.
19:57 That's just a little piece of our puzzle,
19:59 but we're getting closer.
20:01 I think us just hanging out, man,
20:03 and being brothers off the field.
20:06 The cliche answer is really that having handshakes,
20:10 all these things that are going to make us play for each other.
20:13 Because talent can only go so far.
20:15 It is a talent league, but if you
20:17 got people that are closer to each other that
20:19 will play for each other and play with a purpose,
20:23 I think that's what we need.
20:24 I think that's what we were missing last year.
20:25 There's more guys just coming out there for themselves.
20:28 And I think it's going to be a different organization.
20:31 And so Mayo, he has that younger attitude
20:35 and that friendship kind of attitude to him.
20:39 So just being close as brothers, hanging out and doing
20:42 those little things that some teams might not do, that'll
20:45 make the difference in a few of these games.
20:48 Right.
20:49 Now, one of the guys who's not going
20:50 to be with you building those bonds, because he just
20:52 got traded, was Mack.
20:53 And I would be remiss if I didn't ask you what
20:56 you thought when it happened.
20:57 Did you know it was going to happen?
20:59 And have you spoken with him recently
21:00 sometime around the trade?
21:02 Yeah, so I definitely didn't know it was going to happen.
21:05 But there's truth in every rumor they say.
21:06 So it was just how it was going.
21:09 And I'm happy for him that he's going
21:12 to get a fresh start, which is awesome for him.
21:15 And that being back home, it might
21:16 be a good environment for him, someplace he's familiar with.
21:20 And so it was funny, because on the same day,
21:23 our transactions happened.
21:25 And I texted him.
21:26 I was like, bro, I'm going to miss you, bro.
21:28 I love you, bro, and hope you do well.
21:29 And he just was like, thank you, bro.
21:32 And he was just happy to be home.
21:33 And then he texted me a few hours later
21:36 and was just congratulating me.
21:38 And we're really close.
21:40 And I'm going to miss him for sure.
21:42 But everything happens for a reason.
21:44 So I think the Patriots did well by him,
21:47 with letting him go back home.
21:49 I don't know if they talked about that or anything,
21:52 but that was cool for him to go back to his hometown,
21:54 maybe around his family.
21:56 After all he's been through, that'll probably help him.
21:59 And you never know.
22:00 Injuries happen all the time.
22:01 He could be the next man up, and everything can change.
22:04 So just understand his ear and tell him things like that.
22:07 Don't ever doubt it, bro.
22:09 It's for a reason.
22:10 And everything you've been through is for a reason.
22:13 If you take it with the right perspective,
22:16 it can change around.
22:17 So I think he's going to do well.
22:19 All right.
22:20 His successor, the next guy, looks like, as far as we know,
22:23 going to be a rookie.
22:24 You don't have the third pick for no reason, right?
22:26 Season was bad last year.
22:27 They just traded their starting quarterback,
22:29 looking at a rookie.
22:30 Or maybe Jacoby Brissett.
22:31 What do you make of catching passes, perhaps,
22:33 from a guy who could go top three in the draft?
22:35 Or is someone who--
22:37 everyone I've talked to says the same things about Jacoby.
22:39 They're like, I love him.
22:40 He works incredibly hard.
22:41 He's good in the locker room.
22:42 Like, it's almost boring.
22:43 These are good things.
22:44 You want to hear about a teammate.
22:45 What do you make about catching passes from him and/or a rookie?
22:49 So I'm just excited.
22:50 And also, I don't want people to forget about Zappi.
22:53 Zappi is a special guy to me.
22:55 You know what I mean?
22:56 I believe in him.
22:57 I think he's a sleeper that people are really looking over.
23:01 But I'm excited.
23:03 I'm really with wherever the team wants to do.
23:08 And whoever comes in and Brissett,
23:11 I'm going to get close to him.
23:12 I want to get his number, talk to him,
23:14 vibe, be a good teammate to all my teammates.
23:16 And whoever we pick, if that's going to be the leader,
23:20 then just having his back.
23:21 You know what I mean?
23:22 Getting close with him, too, and treating everybody equally,
23:25 man, it's awesome that we have this opportunity
23:28 as an organization.
23:31 It could be make or break.
23:33 So hopefully, we get the right guy with the tangibles.
23:37 And it's just an exciting time.
23:40 Everybody loves the draft, even the players.
23:41 We want to see--
23:43 have y'all seen?
23:43 I got a YouTube video where we watch the draft
23:46 at Mac's house.
23:47 But hopefully, I might do something else like that
23:49 and just get the guys together.
23:51 Because we care.
23:52 We want the organization to pick the right guy.
23:55 The players care.
23:56 And I know they know that.
23:57 So I believe in Elliott and Gerard.
24:00 I believe they know what they're doing.
24:04 I love what Elliott's done so far.
24:05 And he's going to do well in the draft, too.
24:07 All right, let's talk about Elliott.
24:09 We don't know him particularly well.
24:11 I will, spoiler alert, have a story on his full background
24:14 where he's come up, the way he thinks,
24:16 everything coming out next month.
24:17 Until then, what can you tell us about the new de facto GM?
24:21 He's awesome.
24:22 So I had a conversation with him a couple of times
24:24 before negotiating.
24:26 Just hanging out as friends, really, more than anything.
24:30 And he's someone that I'd never--
24:33 when he wasn't the GM yet, I would always see him in office.
24:36 And I didn't know who he was.
24:37 I'm like, bro, who is this guy?
24:38 And he was always walking around with his head held high,
24:41 though, in New England in the building.
24:43 And I look at people's demeanor.
24:45 I look how they walk, how they talk, how confident they are.
24:47 Just everyone.
24:48 And he was somebody that was just--
24:50 I could tell he carried weight around the building.
24:52 He had a say-so.
24:54 I didn't know exactly in what.
24:56 But every day, I was just like, I'm
24:57 about to start talking to this guy.
24:58 I'm about to start saying what's up to him.
25:00 And eventually, every day, last year, I would just always
25:04 walk by him and be like, what's up?
25:05 And I had to figure out his name and stuff.
25:07 And then I learned who he was.
25:09 Yeah, and then our relationship just
25:11 started to grow at that point.
25:13 And it just came full circle, how he became one of the leaders.
25:16 And we had a good relationship.
25:18 So anybody out there, any player, any young player,
25:21 if you see somebody in a building that may be important,
25:24 say hi to him.
25:26 Get to know him.
25:27 Build a relationship.
25:28 Because now, Elliot, he believes in me.
25:30 And it's awesome for me and him, because now negotiating
25:33 is easier, because we're open.
25:35 I'm not holding grudges or anything.
25:37 There's no ice there.
25:39 The ice is broken, because I introduced myself to him way
25:42 before negotiations happened.
25:43 And it turned out well.
25:45 So he's a good guy.
25:46 But I think it went further for me because the relationship.
25:49 And I'm just blessed to say that.
25:51 And so that would be my advice to anyone.
25:53 But me and Elliot, man, his mindset is awesome.
25:57 The way he's going to go about things is awesome.
25:59 The opportunities he's giving the players
26:01 is awesome in how he thinks.
26:03 So just getting to know him more now,
26:05 now that we negotiated and even talked more than we ever have,
26:09 I feel like I know him more.
26:10 So I'm excited to even help.
26:11 I'm trying to be GM assistant, bro.
26:14 Whoever y'all want me to go try to recruit me.
26:17 I like it.
26:17 The lesson here, for the kids listening,
26:19 is butter up your boss so when you need to ask for a raise,
26:22 you can get it.
26:23 That's a long con by you.
26:24 Exactly.
26:25 Exactly.
26:27 You mentioned his mindset, though.
26:28 That's interesting.
26:29 What do you know about what his plan is for this team
26:32 and how he's going to build?
26:33 Like, he's told the media, but I'd
26:34 imagine his conversations with players are a bit different.
26:36 Yeah, so he's just treating everybody fairly,
26:39 giving everybody opportunity.
26:41 Bringing guys in, not just because you drop a pass,
26:45 you don't get an opportunity next week.
26:46 I think he's going to help Jarrod understand.
26:49 They have their own meetings, but I
26:51 think they're going to have people get the opportunities
26:54 they deserve.
26:55 Not having to prove it every single day, every single week.
26:58 But going with the-- we are going to struggle.
27:00 Everybody's up and down.
27:02 One week, you might have a great week.
27:03 One week, you might not.
27:04 But I think he's going to believe in us in a different way
27:07 than it has been in the past.
27:09 So I'm excited for that.
27:11 Some young guys struggle with--
27:14 they don't have the same opportunities
27:16 they did last week.
27:17 They start thinking too much.
27:19 Everybody don't have that gritty mindset to where,
27:23 like, just go get it.
27:24 I'm blessed to kind of have it.
27:25 I've been through the ups and downs and been able to--
27:27 Yeah, board blast, I heard.
27:29 Yeah, board blast, baby.
27:31 But some players don't have that.
27:32 I think Ely is going to balance that out.
27:35 You have to earn what you get, but at the same time,
27:38 we believe in you.
27:39 You're on this team for a reason.
27:40 And that's what I think the mindset is going to be.
27:43 The motto is that we always believe in you,
27:46 but you got to earn what you got, what you get.
27:48 And I think it's going to help a lot of our players.
27:52 So I got one more, but I want to stop there real quick
27:55 before we let you go.
27:56 That sounds like Pop Douglas, who you're spending
27:57 a lot of time with there.
27:58 I mean, we all saw him fumble week two.
28:00 He doesn't go back into that game against Miami.
28:02 You guys go to Owen too.
28:03 Maybe his return doesn't change the outcome,
28:05 but as a lesser role in week three against the Jets,
28:07 you win.
28:08 Is that an example of what you're talking about here?
28:10 Bro, that is a great example.
28:12 That is a prime example, because that's just
28:15 the nature of the game.
28:16 It's inevitable.
28:17 I fumbled in the Buffalo game at a crucial time,
28:22 as I remember.
28:23 And I had the ball high and tight,
28:25 tried to do all the technique, and I still fumbled.
28:28 So like you talk about with Pop, it's just inevitable.
28:30 He's trying to be an explosive player like he is, be himself.
28:33 But then when you don't put us back in the game,
28:36 I got back in the game, which was a blessing.
28:40 But that kills the confidence, what you're saying.
28:42 It's a great example.
28:43 And so I think that's going to be the difference.
28:45 It's like, no, bro, you just made a mistake.
28:48 That can happen to anyone.
28:49 And that mindset is just going to help a player take off.
28:52 So Pop still did great, but Pop has a good mindset.
28:56 But if you get a player that might not have such a good
28:58 mindset and a strong mental--
29:04 so it can affect him.
29:05 So I think that's where Elliott--
29:07 when we talked, he kind of made me understand that it's not
29:10 going to be like that.
29:11 It's going to be-- you're going to get another opportunity.
29:13 You can't just do it five times in a row.
29:15 But one time, yeah, learn from your mistakes,
29:19 and we'll still let you be great.
29:22 Yeah, growth mindset.
29:24 A little bit more patient, understanding.
29:25 His phrase-- I don't know if you caught this quote at the combine
29:28 was "less hard-ass type of vibe."
29:30 Did you hear him say that about the change?
29:33 I did.
29:34 That's awesome, though.
29:35 Yeah, yeah.
29:36 He-- I don't think the Patriots thought it was that awesome,
29:39 because we in the media have a tendency to really throw
29:42 everything in your face, and this is something that they
29:44 didn't want their nose rubbed in.
29:45 But he was being honest.
29:46 I could see the smile on your face,
29:48 or you don't mind it at all, because it sounds true.
29:51 Exactly.
29:51 And it's just making it-- don't make it harder than what it is.
29:55 Like, football's hard enough.
29:56 So if you can make players have it a little bit easier--
30:01 not easy, but to where we can work together,
30:04 then I think the success--
30:07 that breeds success.
30:09 All right.
30:09 Here's the last one, because you're turning 29 this summer,
30:12 and it made me think about three summers ago, when you and I meet
30:15 for the first time.
30:16 This is coming out of COVID.
30:17 You had just signed, then, your first three-year deal
30:20 with the Patriots.
30:21 We're at some golf course in Plymouth.
30:23 I'm talking to your brother.
30:24 I'm talking to your agent, some other people
30:25 around this big brother and big sister's event, right?
30:27 And this is how long ago that feels.
30:29 A, of course, we're just talking about vaccines.
30:31 B, Cam Newton was trying to get you into a wine.
30:35 You guys were vibing, building a relationship.
30:37 I think your brother Andrew was already into wine.
30:39 He was sold.
30:40 And you were unmarried.
30:41 You had one fewer kid.
30:43 Things have changed so much for you the last three years.
30:45 So when you think about the end of this contract,
30:48 or even just the next three years,
30:49 what does Kendrick Bourne, going from 29 to 31,
30:52 want most as someone who--
30:54 again, it was so different, I think, knowing you then
30:57 and knowing you now, in terms of your values
30:59 and what matters most to you.
31:01 What do you want out of your next three years in New England?
31:03 That is a great question.
31:04 So obviously, they've helped me grow mentally,
31:07 which you just said.
31:08 I've grown in that first three years,
31:10 like, rapidly and just in my personal life, football player.
31:17 And now I want to be a captain.
31:21 That is my biggest goal this year.
31:22 I want to be a leader.
31:24 Having the young guys out here has
31:26 shown me that I am impactful.
31:28 The energy I carry is very impactful.
31:30 My biggest goal is being a captain,
31:32 being out there front line, you know what I mean,
31:35 and just doing what the team needs.
31:37 I didn't really have that in 2021, what I had in 2020.
31:39 The ups and downs was for me to be my best in 2023.
31:42 So now that I've learned that, and even come off ACL,
31:45 the mental strength that I'm building
31:48 with working on my knee and these different things,
31:52 I believe that I'm going to carry a different weight
31:53 this year.
31:54 And I'm going to be an important player.
31:56 And I think of Elliott and Gerrard,
31:58 and they understand that.
31:59 And that was a big--
32:01 that was my value.
32:02 It wasn't so much physical.
32:04 It was the how much I work, the work you put in.
32:08 It doesn't go unnoticed.
32:09 So this year, these next three years, man,
32:12 I want to win a Super Bowl.
32:13 That is the biggest goal, of course, of course.
32:16 But that takes a team thing.
32:17 So me pulling my weight at another level,
32:22 just being a leader, being more vocal.
32:24 I do a good job leading by example,
32:26 but being more vocal, telling guys,
32:28 just keeping it real, like, bro, we have to hold ourselves
32:30 to a higher standard.
32:32 And so just this next three years,
32:34 Super Bowl is in there, captain, come back player of the year,
32:38 you know, different things personally.
32:41 But ultimately, just being the best teammate, man,
32:43 I can be, just working and helping others.
32:45 And more, I was just trying to help players off the field,
32:48 too.
32:49 Being that example on the field, doing right with money,
32:52 those things help you be a better football player.
32:54 When you have your finances right off the field,
32:56 you don't stress so much about just playing for money.
32:59 You do it for more to level the game,
33:01 and those little things that teach pop, Taekwon,
33:04 zappying those things when they're out here,
33:06 just building those relationships, man.
33:08 So I'm excited, man, to see--
33:10 because that three years went by fast,
33:11 so I know it's going to go by fast again.
33:14 And just taking advantage of the time.
33:16 Yeah.
33:18 Kendrick, I got to be honest.
33:19 I wish you would aim higher.
33:20 I feel like you can do more than Super Bowl champion,
33:22 come back player of the year, captain all at once,
33:25 get another ring, get another contract.
33:27 You are a man not short on dreams.
33:30 That's great stuff.
33:31 And look, you put it together in 2023.
33:33 I think a lot of people go, oh, contract year.
33:35 Of course.
33:36 Now he puts it together.
33:37 You had a lot going on in your personal life.
33:39 And I don't say that because you've come on the podcast.
33:41 I say it because I know you better
33:43 than a lot of other guys in the locker room.
33:44 And I think Vanessa deserves a shout out,
33:46 your new physical therapist.
33:48 Alex, living with you day to day just to hang out with you
33:51 and treat your knee, that's a big commitment.
33:53 That shows you what you value because, look,
33:55 just like any of us, look down our bank statements.
33:57 You're putting your money and your time
33:59 into what you prize most.
34:00 Right now for you, that's your health, that's your body,
34:02 that's your career, and everything else
34:04 we just talked about.
34:06 Man, bro, for sure.
34:07 Shout out Vanessa, baby.
34:09 Shout out to my guy Alex, for sure, bro.
34:11 All these people-- I just had actually a good dinner,
34:15 celebration dinner.
34:16 They surprised me.
34:17 I was very surprised.
34:18 But I had all the people that have helped me, Henry,
34:21 my agent.
34:21 And it was heartwarming, man.
34:23 And it shows me that I'm taking the correct steps.
34:27 It's big.
34:27 It's big.
34:28 And people talk about the money.
34:30 Everybody wants $100 million, but $5 million
34:33 is a blessing, bro.
34:34 And if you look at it the right way
34:37 and have the right perspective, you can do it again and again.
34:39 But it's all about what you do off the field that can make
34:43 it fruitful for a lifetime.
34:46 Right, right.
34:47 All right, I appreciate you.
34:48 We will let you go.
34:49 I'm just going to assume my invite to that party
34:51 was lost in the mail.
34:52 It's not a big deal.
34:53 But thank you for coming on, my guy.
34:54 And we will chat soon, all right?
34:56 Yes, sir.
34:56 Thank you, Andrew.
34:58 All right, our Fran segment continues with Jordan Boss
35:00 out of Dorchester.
35:01 Thank you very much, Jordan, for donating, asking a question,
35:04 and generally keeping our viewership up.
35:06 I know you've been listening from the get-go.
35:08 Pets Interference, how are you, pal?
35:10 I'm doing good.
35:10 Happy to be on the show.
35:12 It feels weird not listening to you while walking the dog.
35:14 But no, I'm happy to be on and happy for what
35:17 you're doing with the Boston Children's Hospital
35:19 and for Doug and his family.
35:20 So happy to be on, but also happy to donate.
35:22 Awesome.
35:23 All right, well, first we have to talk about the dog.
35:25 What kind is it?
35:26 What's its name?
35:27 How long have you had it?
35:28 Golden Retriever, named Captain.
35:31 He's five years old.
35:32 He's going to be the happiest, most energetic dog
35:34 that you're going to run into if you're
35:35 roaming the streets of Dorchester or Southie
35:37 or wherever you're going to be.
35:38 So yeah, he's on fan club, I feel like.
35:41 But no, he's the best.
35:43 Beautiful.
35:44 All right, so if you are in Dorchester or Southie,
35:46 please say hello to Captain.
35:47 I had even money that that dog's name was Brady,
35:49 just based on your background for the folks who
35:50 are not on YouTube.
35:51 We have a Brady jersey and Gronk framed behind Jordan.
35:55 Yeah, I mean, Brady's is too easy.
35:57 I almost went Jules, but I figured, boy,
35:59 Jules might not work.
36:00 Maybe the next dog.
36:02 Yeah, do you share that with a partner or anything, the dog?
36:05 Nope, it's all mine.
36:06 Single dog dad life over here.
36:07 Nice, single dog dad life.
36:08 Love it.
36:09 All right, let's get to your question here.
36:11 Big offseason right now as we're recording this.
36:13 It's mid to late in free agency.
36:15 A lot of the big names are off the board.
36:16 So you're looking ahead of the draft.
36:17 And you ask, quote, "The Patriots' three biggest needs
36:20 are still QB1, wide receiver one, and left tackle.
36:22 Which do you address in the first two rounds of the draft?
36:24 And which do you address via trade or free agency?"
36:28 So before I give an answer, what's yours?
36:30 I think getting your left tackle is going to be much easier.
36:32 You're kind of kicking that future can down the road.
36:35 So give me Tyron Smith.
36:36 I know we might not win the Super Bowl next year,
36:38 which he might want.
36:39 But if you can get him, just back up the brink stride,
36:42 get him for a one or two year deal,
36:45 play left tackle for your next franchise quarterback, which
36:47 I think you take in the draft.
36:48 And that receiver class is loaded.
36:50 So I'd rather take a Golab Makonke at 34
36:53 than overpay for Ridley or give up a second round pick
36:56 for T. Higgins and then pay him.
36:58 So give me the left tackle in free agency,
37:00 meaning specifically Tyron Smith.
37:02 I don't want Chucks as my right him in left tackle day one.
37:06 If Tyron Smith gets hurt, then have Chucks at left tackle,
37:09 maybe.
37:10 But I think you go left tackle in free agency, quarterback
37:14 three, receiver at 34, or switch those.
37:17 And if you want to give me Marvin Harrison Jr. in Pennix,
37:19 I'm good with that.
37:21 And then take your left tackle in the third round
37:23 or the fourth round and develop him
37:24 so when Tyron Smith gets hurt or retires or just goes
37:28 and chases a Super Bowl ring, you
37:29 have that third round pick tackle to fill in for next year
37:33 or take a first round pick tackle in 2025.
37:36 I like the thought process.
37:37 I'm inclined to agree with you.
37:39 And honestly, I think I do.
37:40 Because I talked about this with Jardi earlier in the week.
37:43 The way the board falls right now with starters at left
37:46 tackle that you could conceivably plug and play.
37:48 And it's still mid-March.
37:49 No one really knows anything.
37:50 There are no guarantees, which I just
37:52 love hearing about the top of the quarterback conversation.
37:54 Oh, there's no guarantee that they'll work out number three.
37:56 That's the draft, man.
37:57 There's no guarantees anywhere.
37:59 But they need to take a quarterback.
38:03 That's my guarantee.
38:04 That's my number one guarantee.
38:05 They're going to draft one.
38:05 They need to.
38:06 So you're going receiver or offensive tackle.
38:08 And I think considering their picks in the board
38:11 and what's available, you need a younger pipeline of receivers.
38:14 And right now with Anwani back, you call him Chucks,
38:16 Chukumu Okorafor.
38:17 I'm probably going to go with Chucks.
38:19 That's his name.
38:19 If he doesn't take any offense, that's much easier,
38:21 much better.
38:22 I'm inclined to agree with you.
38:23 And it could be Tyron Smith.
38:24 It could be Mekhi Becton.
38:26 It could be Jonah Williams.
38:27 Like I said before, I think they're out on.
38:28 But there are more options there, even stopgap.
38:31 And within the next two years, if they start,
38:34 you get a developmental player who
38:36 might be in that third round territory.
38:38 So you go quarterback, receiver, offensive tackle.
38:39 I like it a lot.
38:40 Yeah, I feel like those three picks have
38:43 to be your first three picks.
38:44 I feel like last year, no offense to these players,
38:46 Keon White, Marte Maku.
38:47 I'm sure they're going to be good players.
38:49 I like what I saw from Keon White.
38:50 But you went defense three rounds, the first three rounds.
38:53 You cannot do that.
38:54 And now you have to go those three picks.
38:57 Luckily, you have the third pick.
38:59 And then you have great depth at tackle and receiver
39:02 in this draft.
39:02 So it kind of works out pretty perfectly.
39:04 But yeah, I agree.
39:05 And I'd rather get a stopgap tackle
39:07 than a stopgap receiver.
39:08 So you got to go those three.
39:10 And you pray your line holds up for a rookie quarterback,
39:15 because I do not want the Mack Jones situation again.
39:17 Like you mentioned with Giardi on the last podcast,
39:20 both of them screwed up.
39:21 But if you supported Mack, maybe you're not looking
39:23 for a quarterback at number three.
39:24 Maybe you're not even drafting at three right now.
39:26 So I think you got to go those three, first three
39:28 in the draft.
39:29 But I think get the stopgap tackle,
39:31 and then one, two rounds, receiver, quarterback,
39:35 or vice versa.
39:36 So you mentioned you love Lambek Conkey.
39:38 Do you have any other draft crushes
39:39 you want to share with us?
39:41 I'm definitely not a draft guy.
39:42 I'm a huge Michigan fan.
39:44 Go blue.
39:44 I love Roman Wilson.
39:45 I don't want to draft him in the second round.
39:47 I don't think he's going to be that number.
39:50 Because I feel like if you pick--
39:51 He had a good senior goal.
39:52 Him and Ricky Pearsall are now like quartercoach shooting
39:55 off the board as much as you can.
39:56 For me, Roman Wilson is definitely
39:58 going to be that--
40:01 almost like a Julian Edelman.
40:02 And I'm not saying they're physically the same,
40:03 but that you love this guy.
40:05 He's going to fight for you.
40:06 He's going to get that key third down, stuff like that.
40:09 But I want a true number one receiver.
40:11 I'm not sure-- I'm not a big draft guy.
40:13 I don't know if Lambek Conkey's that guy.
40:14 But go get that guy that's going to be your number one.
40:16 Because if you take a guy in the first or second round,
40:19 with the way our receiver room looks,
40:22 he's going to be your first--
40:23 he's going to be wide receiver number one.
40:25 At least that's what you're signing him to be.
40:27 Because Bourne is a number two at best.
40:29 Pop Douglas is a number two at best.
40:31 Taequann Thornton, I don't care if he got beefed up.
40:33 I don't think he's making this roster.
40:35 But I think he's going to be a number two.
40:37 I think he's going to be a number two.
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