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Patriots Daily's Taylor Kyles and Mike Kadlick team up with Patriots Beat's Alex Barth and Brian Hines for a Day 9 recap of Patriots training camp!  0:00 - Training camp recap 2:30 - KJ Osborne's impact 5:11 - Tyquan Thornton update 8:34 - Juju's struggles continue 11:06 - Drake Maye's performance 12:55 - Drake Maye's struggles 14:55 - Jacobi Brissett's performance 19:03 - Offensive line developments 22:12 - Left tackle situation 24:10 - Running back performance 25:53 - Defensive front analysis 28:41 - Judon's energy return 30:20 - Jaylen Hawkins interception 32:11 - Jaylen Hawkins role 34:50 - Oshane Ximines pronunciation 36:53 - Week one kicker 38:50 - Quarterback expectations 41:11 - Offensive line review 43:29 - Key players to watch  *********************************************** Patriots Content Brought to you by....  Prize Picks - PrizePicks.com/CLNS Download the app today and use code CLNS for a first deposit match up to $100!  Gametime - https://gametime.co Take the guesswork out of buying NBA tickets with Gametime. Download the Gametime app, create an account, and use code CLNS for $20 off your first purchase. Download Gametime today. Last minute tickets. Lowest Price. Guaranteed. Terms apply.  Merch Store - https://shop.clnsmedia.com  Social Media!!!!  Patriots Twitter- https://twitter.com/patriotsclns  Patriots Instagram-  https://www.instagram.com/patriotsclns/  Facebook- https://facebook.com/clnsmedia  LinkedIn- https://www.linkedin.com/company/clnsmedia/about/  Tik Tok - https://www.tiktok.com/@clnsmedia *********************************************************  ABOUT PATRIOTS COVERAGE ON CLNS:   Welcome to the CLNS Media Network’s YouTube channel for New England Patriots  football.  CLNS Media is the leading online provider of audio/video coverage for the 6X Super Bowl Champions.  Get complete inside access to the New England Patriots at Gillette Stadium in Foxboro and everywhere on the road. CLNS Patriots credentialed insiders Greg Bedard, Andrew Callahan, Tayler Kyles, John Zannis, Alex Barth and Mike Kadlick provide instantaneous news and analysis all in real time, as well as full access to complete videos from the players, coaches, ownership and everyone else inside Patriots Place.  If you enjoy CLNS’ Celtics  All Access and are craving more Boston sports content, you head over to CLNS’ Patriots  Press Pass at   https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqX7G3pEDTseNxtoDU27PEg?sub_confirmations=1   __________________________________________________________________________  For Celtics Content:    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmp3kivpOg3lzoJC7yV7VjQ?sub_confirmations=1   https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmp3kivpOg3lzoJC7yV7VjQ?sub_confirmations=1    Celtics Twitter - https://twitter.com/CelticsCLNS   Celtics Instagram - https://instagram.com/celticsCLNS  Twitter Main- - https://twitter.com/clnsmediaCLNS  Main Instagram - https://instagram.com/clnsmedia

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00:30It's the end of a block of Patriots practices, which means it's crossover time.

00:40Patriots beat Patriots daily, taking you through the last three days of training camp.

00:44Alex Barth, Brian Hines, Taylor Kiles with you on this Saturday afternoon as Patriots

00:49wrapped up training camp nine, block three of the summer.

00:53Big folks on the passing game today, over 45 passes thrown in team drills, most of them

00:58from Jacoby Brissett and Drake May, but before we get to the quarterbacks, guys, I actually

01:02want to start with the wide receivers.

01:03I thought today was a wide receiver dominant day, and for the week, too, or at least for

01:07these three days, we got to talk about Pop Douglas, because he got back into team drills

01:12this week, and Taylor, the difference is immediately apparent when he's on the field.

01:16Yeah, this is one of Pop Douglas' more quiet days, but I think it's just because passes

01:19went to other people, but he absolutely looks different.

01:22We've been saying it, the way him and Javon Baker move is very different, but Pop specifically,

01:27you know, Jacoby Brissett mentioned and kind of joked about how it's different thrown to

01:30a guy who's that short, but once they get that chemistry, it's going to pay off, because

01:34when there's one-on-one situations, Mario Douglas looks like he's pretty much in his

01:37own world, because there usually aren't defenders very close to him, so you've got to give a

01:41tip of the cap to Mario Douglas, finally got to really get involved in team drills, and

01:45he looked excellent.

01:46Brian?

01:47It's different out there with him, and they had three of their best days of the summer

01:50when Pop Douglas comes back for team drills.

01:52Shocker.

01:53In three days, right?

01:54Yeah, shocking.

01:55And yeah, as Taylor said, he seemed quieter today, but as I was just, you know, writing

01:59my notebook, I went back, because I didn't mention Pop Douglas, and I'm like, oh, he

02:03still caught three or four passes, which ranked at the top of the receiver, so the skill set

02:07is different, and the offense, surprisingly, looks much better with Pop Douglas out there.

02:10Well, the other thing, and Pop talked about this when he spoke the other day, and Jerron

02:15Mayo spoke about this today, asked, well, do you expect Pop to get more attention this

02:19year?

02:20And just to paraphrase here, they said yes, but if he does, it's going to create opportunities

02:24for the other guys, and you're seeing some of that, and one guy who's made the most of

02:27the opportunity, especially today, I thought today was his best practice, he had a couple

02:30good ones, but today was his best practice, and that's KJ Osborne, and maybe, Taylor,

02:35you grind the film more than anybody, so I'll ask this to you, I'm not saying he was a bad

02:40red zone receiver in Minnesota, but I don't remember him being this red zone weapon, Osborne

02:44in Minnesota, but boy, did he turn it on when they got into the red zone in the last few

02:48days, and it's multiple ways, he's getting open on the goal line, some of these shorter

02:52shiftier routes, contested catches in the back of the end zone, like, one, do you remember

02:58him, what do you remember of him, of the red zone in Minnesota, and is this something you

03:02think translates, because they haven't really had a red zone threat at wide receiver here

03:05for a while.

03:06Yeah, he definitely wasn't much of a red zone presence at all with the Minnesota, at least

03:09last year from what I saw.

03:10And they had some other good red zone threats there, so.

03:12Right, of course, but his production really came on those intermediate in breakers, like

03:16the crossers or the deep in cuts, but I think if he had gotten consistently accurate passes

03:20from his quarterbacks over the past, like, four or five practices, we'd be talking about

03:23him more, because there have been reps where he was open, and a lot of the times, guys

03:27were just over or under throwing him, so nothing came of it, but we've seen the past couple

03:31days, he's had some of the most impressive catches we've seen.

03:33Yesterday, it was against Christian Gonzalez, he wins on a corner route, I think Jacoby

03:37Bercet threw an anticipation throw, which ended up a little behind him, but he still

03:40comes down through contact and makes the grab, and then today, they kick off an end of half

03:44situation with a throw to K.J. Osborne, deep down the sideline, another one that was under

03:49thrown, he comes back and makes a catch through Alex Austin, and even when you don't talk

03:53about the receptions, there are still moments where you see him getting open in some of

03:57those iso situations, so he's been a kind of pleasant surprise, very quiet guy whose

04:01stock is rising.

04:02So, Brian, let me ask you this, K.J. Osborne could end up being a sneaky important player

04:05for this team, because we don't know if Kendrick Moran's going to be able to start the season,

04:09the two rookies have looked good, but they're rookies, you'd like them to be able to ease

04:12in, that kind of leaves K.J. Osborne as the guy, at least early on in the season while

04:17you wait for some other things to flush themselves out, Pop too, dealing with the injury, how

04:21do you feel about him maybe playing a significant role in September?

04:24Yeah, like, it's been very easy out there to get excited about the rookies, right, like

04:28Polk's looked good, Baker's looked good, but they're rookies, and you would prefer a veteran,

04:33a steady veteran presence in that room, and if Kendrick Moran isn't ready for the start

04:37of the regular season, K.J. Osborne's that guy, and, you know, there's some veterans

04:41in the tight end room who we'll talk about, but that's your veteran receiver, and he's

04:46a guy leading into camp, we were kind of talking about like, it's only a one year deal,

04:51they could get out of it if they really wanted to, kind of a quiet spring, but no, he was

04:55very good today, best practice of the summer, and yeah, with the situation and the young

05:00guys in the room, like, he's on the roster.

05:02Yeah, we were chatting with Mike Reese during practice today, and Mike, I think he tweeted

05:05this out, called him a lock, I completely agree, alright, those are the upset wide receiver,

05:10we do need to talk about some of the, I don't want to say, well, partially downs, but let's

05:14get, let's do Taekwon Thornton first.

05:17Didn't practice today, was on the field for a little bit, not in uniform, well, in a jersey,

05:21but not in pads, Andrew Callahan of the Boston Herald tweeting out a little bit ago that

05:25it's not expected to be anything serious or long term, which, okay, but it is Taekwon

05:31Thornton, you never know with him, I still think, if he continued to have the camp that

05:36he was having, he was going to make the team.

05:38He had been one of their better receivers, but, where's your concern level at now, even

05:44with the Callahan report, with him missing time, Brian?

05:47High.

05:48Fair, fair.

05:49That's the story, can he stay healthy, and sure, it's not considered long term or serious,

05:56but, that's right now, yeah, is it a soft, like, we don't know what it is, like, it could

06:00be a soft tissue that could linger, or, you know, who knows, so just the fact that this

06:05is popping up right now, kind of early, that he's missing a day, with the past history,

06:10that's a concern for me.

06:12And this is now the second practice that Taekwon Thornton is missing the offseason, he missed

06:15the last session in the spring, which we all talked about, kind of, you know, had to go

06:18into that break with a bad taste in your mouth, because it's, again, Taekwon missing practice,

06:23and missing today, even if it's not a long term thing, it's just he hasn't been able

06:26to maintain that momentum, and that's what we want to see from Taekwon, now, obviously,

06:30hopefully he gets back soon, and can have some strong preseason games, so, you know,

06:33he can get some of that back, but, it's got to be concerning, I will say, though, Jalen

06:37Rager didn't do much, as the top X receiver, to kind of, you know, push Taekwon Thornton

06:41further, or anything like that, so, for Taekwon, it wasn't the worst thing missing today, because

06:46the guy who replaced him didn't do a whole lot, I don't think any of the X receivers

06:49did a whole lot today, but still, you want to see Taekwon Thornton out there.

06:52I think it's more, even if this ends up being a short term thing, right, like he misses

06:55today, has an off day tomorrow, he's back out there, it's just a reminder of, even if

07:00he is having this good camp, how much, how big of a role can you really pencil this guy

07:05in for, you don't want to start planning things around him, if he's going to be in and out

07:10of the lineup, and it's just kind of a reminder that, as good as it looks at times, I wouldn't

07:15consider him a consistent option, because.

07:19And Adrian Caneliano also mentioned that the team is very aware of his health status, and

07:22the fact that he has missed time, that was another part of that, yeah.

07:23No, the team knows that too, I think.

07:25Alright, I mentioned the ups and downs, I feel bad doing this every day, because I feel

07:30like we're kicking a guy when he's down, I don't want him to come across like we're taking

07:33shots, I don't mean it to be that way, but we have to talk about what we see, this was

07:38another rough day for Juju Smith-Schuster, he had a bad drop in the end zone on a throw

07:43from Joe Milton, during Drake May's one minute drill, there was a player, I thought it was

07:48a fine throw, it was maybe a little bit outside, but Juju just did not get, he couldn't get

07:52out of the route, he couldn't get out of the break, the ball ends up falling incomplete,

07:56it just, it's not there, and he doesn't look like a player that they can give any playing

08:00time to, Brian.

08:01And even the body language, at times, kind of looks like a guy who knows, like, he might

08:07not have it anymore, there was one, you know, in that Drake May period, he's walking back

08:10to the huddle, like, very slowly, his head kind of looked down, so, yeah, he's done nothing

08:15to justify a roster spot at this point, and, like, they're at a point where they just have

08:19to eat the money, and just end kind of the Juju experiment here.

08:23It's been hard to watch, and to a point you wonder, is he going to finish the summer?

08:27It's a fair question.

08:28And I'm not trying to be condescending or rude, but truly, at times, I'm just like,

08:32he should retire, because it's tough to watch out there, you got all these athletics, especially

08:37young receivers, and even the veterans, when they're out there making plays, Juju isn't

08:41getting a lot of separation, and then on a play like the Joe Milton throw, where Joe

08:44Milton threw him open, he's kind of going downfield over the middle, and Joe Milton

08:48puts it out in front of him to beat the defender.

08:50But right on his hands.

08:51Yeah, and Juju had it, and couldn't come down with it, and that's what we've seen, where

08:54even the quarterbacks are giving him opportunities, basically saying, hey, 50-50 ball, be a winner

08:59here, because that's how it feels like he's going to survive in the league, and we haven't

09:02seen that.

09:03So again, it's not easy to watch out here, we're not trying to dog on the guy, but it

09:07feels like, it just feels like Juju may not even finish the summer out here.

09:10All right, before we move on to the quarterbacks, one of you said something about the tight

09:13ends, Brian, I think it was you.

09:14Do you have a thought on the tight ends?

09:15I mean, Hunter Henry was awesome today, he had a really good day, very good day.

09:19He had, the Patriot Social posted it, he had a one-handed catch on the end zone, along

09:23the sideline.

09:24Thank you.

09:25Unfortunately, it got called back, there was a sack on the play, so they brought it back.

09:30I don't know about that, nobody was that close to Jacoby Reset.

09:33I was, Phil Perry, credit to him, he said Tristan Hill was in his face, and had a sock.

09:39Tristan Hill was-

09:40The guy who had a good day.

09:41Yeah, he had a good day today, but all right, fine, we'll give it to Tristan Hill.

09:43But I mean, they brought the offense back, so something happened where they didn't count

09:47it, but it was an incredible catch.

09:49He got two feet in, it wasn't Hunter Henry's fault, and then in the one-minute drive to

09:53end practice, he caught a touchdown.

09:55So we know he can play in the red zone, he can catch touchdowns.

09:59So Hunter Henry, again, going back to those veterans in the room, having a reliable guy

10:02like that, a really good day from him today.

10:04And to add on to that, Jacoby Reset, or Hunter Henry said after practice that he does feel

10:07like he and Jacoby Reset are actually building some real chemistry.

10:10It's clear, you can see it.

10:11And you saw it on the touchdown, where Jacoby Reset threw it, like got the ball and just

10:15put it up there.

10:16He threw it to his spot.

10:17It was not close to being out of his break, and then he just ran under it, and then dove

10:20and made the catch.

10:21Hunter Henry and Austin Hooper do not sleep on the veterans.

10:25Hooper has been a little less consistent, but Hunter Henry's been a monster.

10:28Very difficult to cover in the red zone.

10:30Actually, Del Pettis had a rep where he was all over Hunter Henry and broke it up.

10:34And so now, it's like, well, people don't usually do that because the connection's been

10:37so good.

10:38And I think today was the first time in the open field, we really saw Jacoby push the

10:41ball downfield to Hunter Henry, did it on back-to-back plays for a two-minute drive.

10:45A couple of lesser days for Austin Hooper.

10:46He had a bad drop yesterday.

10:48He had one today.

10:49I think it was a miscommunication or something that led to an interception by Jacoby Reset

10:53in the red zone.

10:54But overall, yes, as much as we've kind of hyped up guys like Taequann and the rookies,

10:58the most consistent options in the passing game for Jacoby Reset have been the two tight

11:02ends.

11:03So they deserve credit.

11:04Let's talk about the quarterbacks.

11:05Let's start with Drake May, because there's something very interesting happening with

11:09Drake May right now.

11:11Usually with rookie quarterbacks, I remember this was a big talking point in Matt Jones'

11:14rookie camp.

11:15Red zone work is the last thing to come along, because it's a smaller space, everything's

11:20happening quicker, you have less room to operate.

11:23For whatever reason, when they get in a red zone here, Drake May is just dotting it.

11:28And then they go to the full field, and it's not there.

11:31Now maybe some of that is less time to think is good, because he can't overthink things.

11:36But another really good red zone period today, he had a great throw to Jalen Polk in the

11:40back of the end zone.

11:41He had a ton of zips splitting two defenders, but he was 3 of 11 overall in 11 on 11s.

11:46His one minute drill goes throw away, overthrow, the miss to Juju on the timing, and then he

11:52had a ball batted down the line of scrimmage.

11:54I think that was Tristan Hill again.

11:58It's been weird to see, because it's the opposite of what you would expect.

12:01I do think the processing is some of it, and the read and react of it all.

12:05But Taylor, what's been your read on kind of the two sides we've seen of Drake May in

12:10this camp?

12:12The red zone stuff wasn't a shock.

12:13Because if you look at his college tape, Drake, I remember looking at it being like, you really

12:16see how good Drake May is in the red zone, because you see the ball placement, the accuracy.

12:21We haven't seen the running ability, but that flashed as well in college.

12:23Well, he's been trying.

12:24He hasn't been afraid to scramble in this camp.

12:26That's true.

12:27But then when you talk about the open field stuff, honestly, I know there was that situational

12:30drill where they actually had a down count, and like you mentioned, he got the batted

12:33pass and everything.

12:34I didn't put that against him.

12:35He actually tried to air it out for the first time that we've seen in those drills.

12:38He did overthrow it to Javon Baker.

12:40With the throwaway, I thought nobody was open, or it looked like there maybe had been

12:43a miscommunication.

12:44He was like, I'm not throwing into a bad window.

12:47Then he had the drop, and I don't really count that against him.

12:50I do think that the defense, Evan Lazar mentioned this, I thought it was a great point, where

12:54they're rotating coverages.

12:55They're going into cover two, so he can't really throw downfield.

12:58They're blitzing him, which is speeding up his process.

13:00It looked like there was a play where he dumps it off to Mitchell Wilcox in the flat to beat

13:04the blitz.

13:05So it's really hard to say, when we can't see the film, when we can't rewatch these

13:08plays, why he isn't going downfield as often, especially because I know it's his nature.

13:12I did think he took a step forward today.

13:14I think he still looks more comfortable, by far, than he did in the first couple of padded

13:18practices.

13:19You want to see continued growth, but I would call this a positive day for him overall.

13:22Okay.

13:23Brian?

13:24Yeah, I think, you know, the numbers, the passing numbers, they're going all around

13:27Twitter, right?

13:28And it's 3 of 11, it's 0 for 4 in the last minute drill, and it doesn't look great.

13:33But then you start adding context to that, and it's drops, it's Juju falling on routes,

13:38it's throwaways.

13:39That's a lot of where these incompletions are coming from, quick pressures.

13:42I think we can talk about the tackle situation, which was bad today, and he had 3 or 4 would-be

13:48sacks in there as well.

13:51But I think the positive is the process looks better, right?

13:55The mental side may be slowing down a little.

13:57This is his third padded practice, so maybe things are slowing down a little bit for him,

14:04and the results aren't there completely, and it's not all his fault, which is why I would

14:07still love to see him get some opportunities with the starters.

14:10But I think the process is looking a little bit better and cleaner for Drake Mayweather.

14:14And I just want to go back to the point you made that Evan brought up, and I did a show

14:16with Evan earlier on the Sports Hub YouTube page, which you can check out, where we got

14:20into this a little deeper.

14:21Good plug.

14:22Thank you.

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14:31They're not, there seems to be, I don't know that it's on purpose, but if it is, it makes

14:37sense.

14:38There seems to be a point of not allowing Drake May to do what he wants to do, and not

14:42let him do what he does best, which is create off-structure, get outside of the pocket,

14:46extend plays, which, good!

14:48He said that was his game yesterday.

14:49Right.

14:50He's like, I'm going to keep playing my style.

14:51I'd rather them force him to play in-structure here and learn how to do that, than just let

14:57him play playground football, and you get out there week one, and he sees a cover three

15:01or cover two for the first time, and doesn't know what to do.

15:04It'll be really interesting to watch him in the first preseason game, and Gerard Mayo

15:08didn't commit to playing him, but you'd imagine he's going to play in the first preseason.

15:11He should play.

15:12I'll say that.

15:13But Mayo also said the first game, it's very vanilla, right, like you don't game plan,

15:16so seeing maybe a less complex defense, and I mean, the Panthers defense isn't as talented

15:23as the Patriots defense, so not as good as a defense, like it'll be interesting to see

15:26him in game action, maybe gets a little more aggressive, gets more of those chances to

15:30push the ball downfield.

15:32I hope so.

15:34Alright, let's move on to Jacoby, or do you have one more point, or we can get to Jacoby

15:37Bursette?

15:38Yeah, we can.

15:39Alright, so let's move on to Jacoby Bursette.

15:40He continues to be, in terms of where players are playing, compared to the expectations

15:45coming in.

15:47Has any player in this camp exceeded expectations, Brian, more than Jacoby Bursette, after another

15:53strong day today?

15:55Exceeded expectations more, I'll go no, I'll go no, I think Taylor might, Taylor had high

16:01expectations for Jacoby Bursette.

16:03Yeah, for me it's true, yeah.

16:05He's looked pretty much like what I thought he was going to look like out here, which

16:07is consistency, he knows what he's doing.

16:10I think we kind of just have to live with, sometimes the ball placement's going to be

16:12off.

16:13One thing that we talked about was, when he's going deep, the ball hangs up.

16:17I think we have to just be prepared for something, like these receivers are going to have to

16:20make plays on contested passes, because I just don't think his arm is where it was,

16:24maybe earlier on in his career, but for the most part, yeah, he looks like the starter.

16:29As much as I wanted to see Drake maybe push him a little bit, I don't think it's particularly

16:32close.

16:33What I've liked is, and you mentioned that the ball's hung up a little bit, which they

16:36have a bunch of contested catch receivers, it's the team they've built, it does feel

16:40like the defense is forced to defend multiple levels, and I know that sounds basic, that

16:44hasn't been the case here for a while.

16:46Like, he can access all the different parts of the field you want him to access, and he's

16:50done it to good success so far in his camp, Ryan.

16:54Yeah, and that was like his interception today, it was one of those deep shots, kind of hung

16:59up, tipped by Azizi Hearn, intercepted by Jalen Hawkins, so, but he's not, he's aggressive

17:06still, right?

17:07Like, it doesn't waver his confidence, he'll still throw it downfield, and if he's connecting

17:10on these at, you know, a 50% clip, like, you're still generating a good amount of explosive

17:15plays and that's worth it, so, yeah, there's going to be some misses, he's going to overthrow

17:19some guys, especially if he's throwing to a short pop Douglas, right, but hopefully

17:23he gets that, you know, fixed away, but yeah, for every miss it seems like there's one make,

17:28so that's a good clip to throw.

17:29The other thing I think that's been great is the energy is real, it's there, and after

17:35the, I think it was the deep ball to Rager, one of those deep balls, I mean, fist bump,

17:40he's screaming, he's, you know, smacking offensive linemen on the back of the head, things like

17:44that, and even when it's not, when he's not the one making the play, Drake May on that

17:48good throw on the red zone, he goes right up to Drake May, he's, you know, hitting him,

17:51good job, good play, things like that, like, he, there's a level of energy there that you

17:56can tell is contagious with the rest of the offense.

17:59Yeah, I love both of those points, because one thing I've been thinking about is, any

18:03time there is a positive play, I think Drake May, just, there's so much going on for him

18:06in his head, I think when he's comfortable, you'll see the leadership in him come out,

18:10you'll see him be that raw, raw guy, but you notice, even when he makes a good play, it's

18:14not a really, it's a very subtle, just like, yeah, right, and I think that Jacoby bringing

18:19that, kind of just some levity, and just like, hey, it's not that serious, he's even said

18:22it himself, when we make big plays, we should celebrate, it's the NFL, it's not going to

18:25come easy, so I love that, and also the aggressiveness, where with Mac Jones, you know, Bailey's happy

18:30was better about it, but last year, you really saw Mac Jones with everything going on, the

18:34aggressiveness was gone, like, where he's checking into plays, not taking those shots,

18:38Jacoby Brissett is trying to see what he can and can't get away with, that's a big reason

18:42we keep mentioning the tight ends, because those big bodies, he's like, I'm just going

18:45to put it on a back shoulder or somewhere, I'm going to give you a chance to make plays,

18:49and with this passing offense, where there aren't a lot of, you know, proven guys when

18:53it comes to those explosive plays, they're going to get them, because I think Jacoby

18:56Brissett is going to try his best to capitalize on those opportunities, which should give

19:00them a better chance to be, you know, a competent offense, whereas in the previous years, or

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20:45So we saw Caden Wallace, he's now back at right tackle.

20:49Vidarian Lowe staying at left tackle on that top group.

20:52Look, they got a game in five days, and these game reps are so, so valuable when it comes

20:59to determining who your offensive line is going to be.

21:03I kind of feel like we're going to see a group with Vidarian Lowe in there for the game.

21:06Now, if Druk's core force hurt, you can't put him out there, that is what it is, but

21:10Gerard Mayo's been pretty insistent by the end of the second preseason game, they want

21:13to know who their offensive line is, but it certainly feels like Vidarian Lowe's going

21:17to get the first crack at this left tackle job.

21:19Who saw that coming back in January?

21:21Me and John.

21:22Yeah, I mean, it's a position we were worried about since, what, four years ago, you always

21:31say?

21:32You haven't done a show since they had a left tackle?

21:33This is my seventh year on the beat, and I mean, there was a couple years with Trent

21:37Brown being like year to year, that's as close as I've gotten to any left tackle security.

21:42And then you lose Chooks Acorafor, and then your depth takes a hit with Calvin Anderson

21:46not out there today.

21:48So there was a lot of pressure on the quarterbacks today.

21:52It wasn't great.

21:53You know, Drake May was running with Kellen Deich, who they signed yesterday, and UDFA's

21:57Zuri Henry, who we all love, but you know, he's Zuri Henry.

22:00So it's going to be really interesting to see that starting five on Thursday night.

22:05And they have two practices before, so maybe we'll, hopefully Chooks is OK, he's back.

22:12That's the biggest question mark still right now.

22:13Taylor, Vardarian Lowe, Kellen Deich, you've been high on this offensive line.

22:17Can Scott Peters save this?

22:19I think so.

22:20Can the strike system save this?

22:22Like, look, I don't think we think that Vardarian Lowe is a starter necessarily.

22:26That's definitely not on the table.

22:27But I will say, I don't think he's been as bad.

22:29Like at right tackle, I think any time he was out there, it was noticeably bad.

22:33I think at left tackle, he's definitely looked more comfortable.

22:37But yeah, the offensive line situation was not good today.

22:39Caden Wallace didn't look great at right tackle with the ones.

22:42And then like you guys mentioned, Kellen Deich and Zuri Henry.

22:45If you're at home, I doubt you're very familiar with either of those players, and there's

22:47a reason for it.

22:48They know Zuri Henry.

22:49They know Zuri Henry.

22:50I'm sorry.

22:51But an undrafted rookie and then an undrafted guy who's been in the league but has never

22:55been on an active roster.

22:56It was exactly what you'd expect.

22:57So you kind of hope that at least one of Chooks or Calvin Anderson can play in the game, because

23:02especially because they like to send lines for the Lions in those games, it can get rough.

23:07We also had a development with the second group.

23:10After a few rough days for Antonio Maffia at center trying to make that switch, we're

23:13now seeing Charles Turner.

23:15I think we, Brian, we talked about this, or were you on the show with us last night?

23:18Charles Turner.

23:19After all I'm saying, yeah, I'm sure there's a reason they're not giving him center reps.

23:22He got center reps.

23:23He, solid, fine, nothing spectacular.

23:25He had one, it wasn't a bad snap, but Drake May had to go a little outside his frame to

23:29get it.

23:30But you didn't get like the one bad snap a day you've been getting from Antonio Maffia.

23:33He got the ball to Drake May every snap, which is improvement.

23:37Shout out Scott Peters.

23:38I know you watch the show and you listened to us last night putting Charles Turner at

23:42center.

23:43Yeah, I mean, there's not a whole lot to add.

23:45Yeah.

23:46Yay, Charles Turner.

23:47Anything else on the offense?

23:48Offense?

23:49Not really.

23:50I think running backs, we didn't touch on the running backs.

23:52The offensive line, it was another day they didn't generate much on the ground game, where

23:57the first day in pads on Monday, they had a lot of open rushing, like big rushing lanes.

24:02Each back felt like it ripped off a big run, and now it's been two, three days.

24:07One of you mentioned that maybe Devon Godshaw's presence changed that, but it's been two or

24:11three days now where they haven't generated much movement in the run game.

24:14Yeah.

24:15I think they've gotten, like, past two days, it's been a couple nice runs, and then the

24:17rest is just nothing.

24:19I was going to kind of get into that as we touch on the defensive line, because I think

24:22it had more to do with the personnel they had on the defensive front, because Daniel

24:26Equality touched on it.

24:27I asked him after practice.

24:28There was a certain front they had out there where I saw it and was like, oh yeah, no,

24:31this is a run day.

24:32They are not giving you anything.

24:33I want to get to that in a second.

24:35I will say, you know I like to randomly insert UDFAs into the conversation.

24:39That's how we got here with Zuri Henry.

24:41Terrell Jennings, that dude runs hard.

24:45He doesn't go down.

24:46He also had a little wiggle out there.

24:47And Andy, we saw the wiggle today on top of the lower in the shoulder.

24:51He's going to be a ton of fun in the preseason to watch.

24:53I think he's going to get a ton of work in the preseason.

24:55I don't know that he's going to outpace Kevin Harris or even Michael Hasty, but that's a

25:00guy you keep on the practice squad, and maybe next year we revisit.

25:03They might have found a little something there.

25:05I'm not saying Adrian Peterson, but they might have found a little something there.

25:09On the defensive side of the ball, we can start here, Taylor.

25:11You mentioned that front.

25:13We should have a name for this because it's, I think it's just under 1,000 pounds of defensive

25:18linemen in a three down front with Devon Gottschall.

25:21He's playing five tech at one point.

25:23Did you see that?

25:25You had Mike Purcell in the middle, and then you had Daniel Kauai out there with them.

25:29They're going to need to rework things without Christian Barmer.

25:31We know that.

25:33It's not going to look the same.

25:34I don't even mean plug a player in.

25:35I mean schematically there's going to be differences.

25:37Christian Barmer did things, was able to do things that other players just simply put

25:41aren't able to do.

25:44Maybe this is a new look, and it is interesting to me.

25:46Mike Purcell was signed, what, on Thursday?

25:48He's out there running with the top unit.

25:51They had five down fronts.

25:53We know that's a very common front for the Patriots.

25:55Typically it's Devon Gottschall inside with a Christian Barmer, Lawrence guy type, and

25:59then like a Dietrich Weiser, a Keon White, that gets you your pass rush.

26:03Today they went significantly heavier.

26:05First, Mike Purcell, somebody that I think we all thought was going to contribute and

26:08help make up for lost Christian Barmer, well, he was a nose tackle with the Broncos and

26:12continued to be a nose tackle today.

26:14He was the man in the middle for the Patriots defense.

26:16330 pounds.

26:17Yeah, with Devon Gottschall at defensive tackle slash defensive end, we've seen that with

26:21Carl Davis, where Carl Davis would sub in as the nose sometimes.

26:24They'd have Gottschall as more of a defensive tackle, Barmer type, obviously without the

26:27pass rush.

26:28Yeah, Lawrence guy too back in the day.

26:29Yep, exactly.

26:30And then where you'd see Dietrich Weiser or Keon White, they had Daniel Aquale, so you

26:34do get some of that pass rush juice, but still he's a bigger guy who you're expecting more

26:38to stop the run.

26:39I asked Daniel Aquale, like, what's the mentality when you have that much beef in the middle?

26:43He's like, yeah, no, we're building the wall.

26:45You are not going to run on us.

26:46So a little preview of what we could see maybe on some early downs and a reason why I think

26:50they weren't getting anything on the ground.

26:52Also Anthony Jennings, I saw he had to run stuff and got really fired up.

26:55Yeah, I mean, a lot of beef.

26:57So maybe that explains some of the run issues for the Patriots offense.

27:00But one other guy who wasn't in that trio, and we mentioned him a little earlier, Tristan

27:05Hill, like, continues to get a lot of run in Christian Barmore's absence.

27:10And he had the sack that we thought on the Hunter-Henry play.

27:15He also had to run stuff and the batted pass.

27:17So he's getting a lot of opportunities and he's kind of taking it and running with it

27:21here too.

27:22All right.

27:23So we mentioned, and let me say for Gerard Mayo said before practice that he challenged

27:26the defense to have a better day after the offense had a few good days.

27:28They rose to that.

27:30Tough to rise to that without your best player.

27:32And we somehow went through the whole defensive front without mentioning Matthew Judon.

27:35He had a great day today.

27:37Twofold.

27:38One, just football.

27:39X and O's.

27:40He had a couple of run stops early on.

27:41I wouldn't call them run stops.

27:42It was more he was on the edge and forced the run back inside for somebody to clean

27:46up.

27:47And I mean, he's going up against tackles on that.

27:48He had at least one pressure in that two minute as well.

27:51There might have been another one or two.

27:52He beat Kayden Wallace bad.

27:53Like clean.

27:54Yeah.

27:56It'll happen.

27:57It's Matthew Judon versus Kayden Wallace.

27:58It's Matthew Judon.

27:59Right.

28:00Yeah.

28:01The other thing, he looked like he was having fun out there.

28:03He at one point chased Antonio Gibson like 45 yards up the sideline on the one big run

28:09the offense got on the play with Hunter Henry that was brought back.

28:12He starts doing a dance kind of taunting the offense on the side.

28:16He did not look like a guy that was forced to be out there, that was begrudgingly out

28:20there that was, oh, all right, this is what I got to do to get my money.

28:24And it doesn't mean he doesn't want the contract anymore.

28:26I still think he does.

28:27I said this the other night.

28:28Something's going to happen there.

28:29I don't know what, but I would be shocked if we get to week one and it's just Matthew

28:33Judon playing on six and a half million dollars in incentives and that's it.

28:37But the way they've pulled the 180 with him and I still think there's more coming.

28:42I don't think it's simply Gerard Mayo gave him such a meeting, such a conversation that

28:47he decided he's going to do.

28:49And that's it's not to pick on Gerard Mayo like that's an unfair expectation.

28:54The fact that they've gotten him back this far without a deal getting done, it would

28:57be one thing to see this after Penn gets put to paper to see him out that light there today

29:01without a deal getting done, as far as we know, is a very, very encouraging sign.

29:05And I think Gerard Mayo in the coaching staff deserve and Ellie Wolf, who deserve a ton

29:08of credit for that.

29:09Yeah, I will say I was mentioning yesterday how he's coming in through the back.

29:13He's not really going through his routine with fans and he didn't really look like guy.

29:17I don't want to say he didn't want to be out there, but he didn't look like Judon.

29:20Yesterday felt like yesterday felt a lot more going through the motions than today did.

29:25Yeah, and today it was the same early on.

29:26He still came in through the back entrance, no catch with fans, but definitely more energy

29:30on the field.

29:31So maybe it's a process.

29:32I still don't want to overlook the early on early on because it just seems odd considering

29:37what his routine is.

29:39But it was nice to see a little bit of that Judon come out because I really think that

29:42the defense feeds off the energy that he provides.

29:44I think he hit it.

29:45So I'll just say we have an off day tomorrow.

29:48Are we back here Monday with the Matthew Judon situation finalized?

29:53Last off day, we got the Devon Godshaw contract.

29:55So I'll say this about not coming up and playing catch with the fans.

29:58I do want not a logistical thing, but the last thing they need because he'll chat with

30:02fans during that.

30:03The last thing they need is a fan asking him something.

30:05And even if he doesn't answering it, video of him not answering the question, that's

30:09a fair point.

30:10Becoming a thing like it is better.

30:12It sucks because that's such a great moment for fans.

30:14And I love that he does that.

30:16Cordero Patterson used to do that.

30:18Cordero Patterson is the first player I remember doing that.

30:20And I would go down on the sidelines.

30:21This was pre-COVID.

30:22And like parents telling me their kid's day was made.

30:26So first of all, shout out to Cordero Patterson.

30:28I'll always work that out.

30:29But I love that Matthew Judon does that.

30:32I do think it is better for both sides that until there's some sort of resolution here,

30:37it makes sense to maybe not go about that.

30:39I agree.

30:40That's a good perspective.

30:41I don't know for sure that that's why he's not doing it.

30:42Maybe he's just like, I don't want to do this right now.

30:45But in the social media era, you could walk into an unfortunate situation doing that with

30:53everything that's going on.

30:54There's still the oddity of him coming up through the back.

30:57Because the way that they come in, you're not going past.

30:59He's not the only one that comes up the back though.

31:02For sure.

31:03But still, it is different in routine.

31:04But that is a good perspective.

31:05I didn't really think about that.

31:06He maybe just doesn't want to put himself in a precarious situation where he could end

31:11up having a bunch of fans asking him that and whether or not he answers, he looks bad.

31:15Any other thoughts on the defense today, fellas, before we get a quick special teams

31:18moment in?

31:19Jalen Hawkins, second straight day, he was around the ball a lot.

31:23He had an interception on Jacoby Brissette that we talked about.

31:26And also a pass breakup.

31:28I think it was Mitchell Wilcox he was guarding, so a pass breakup.

31:31So he's been involved.

31:32You know, they're missing some guys in the secondary.

31:34So he's been involved the past few days.

31:36And Jerron Mayo said he was a big part of what they want to do.

31:39So that's...

31:40Let's pay attention to that.

31:41I remembered, if Mike Catlick's watching...

31:43I thought of you when you said that.

31:44If Mike Catlick's watching, it was two years ago, three years ago, when Jelani Tavia was

31:48first here.

31:49He signed that first year during the season, had a rough year.

31:52Bill Belichick does a SiriusXM interview, and none of us thought Jelani was going to

31:55make the team.

31:56And Bill Belichick does a SiriusXM interview and says, yeah, Jelani Tavia is going to play

32:00a big role for us.

32:01And Mike Catlick doesn't put him on the roster projection, even though the head coach told

32:05him that.

32:06And I like to say, they'll give us the answers.

32:08We just have to know where to look.

32:10Jalen Hawkins is making this team.

32:11I take Gerard May with face value, and he says Jalen Hawkins is going to play a big

32:15role because it makes sense.

32:17He's going to be here, and he's going to be a factor, Taylor.

32:20And we saw it in the spring, where I started noticing, I'm like, he's repping with that

32:23first defense a lot.

32:24And it was specifically their three safety package in nickel, where they're usually trying

32:28to stop the run.

32:29That's where, you know, everybody who wants Kyle Duggar and Jabril Peppers to be near

32:32the line, I agree in those big nickel fronts, because you can put Peppers in the slot, you

32:36can put Duggar at linebacker, and that's where they thrive, because they're obviously really

32:40exceptional run defenders.

32:41And then Jalen Hawkins was consistently that safety that used to be Marte Mappu last season.

32:46So it was already like, all right, Jalen Hawkins, they clearly like him.

32:50And then after the spring, in the summer, we find out, you know, Jabril Peppers has

32:53all this praise for him, tells us that he was an offseason award winner.

32:59We already found that out.

33:00He had the most points.

33:01That was it.

33:02He had the most points on defense for his effort and all the plays he made.

33:04And then even today, Kyle Duggar mentions the communication, which as that deep safety

33:08is very important.

33:09He said he's always talking, trying to communicate, get on the same page with all the guys in

33:13the secondary.

33:14So we've been getting the breadcrumbs, and now Gerard Mayo kind of gave us the confirmation

33:17that, yeah, no, they're not playing around.

33:19Jalen Hawkins has now jumped, I think, Marte Mappu on the safety depth chart.

33:22Can't make the club from the top.

33:23The other thing Peppers said about Jalen Hawkins, he called him a high energy guy.

33:28When Jabril Peppers calls you a high energy guy, that's a high, high bar to clear.

33:33So I'm excited for Jalen Hawkins this season.

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38:00I don't know if Joe said that just because I haven't seen him in a month.

38:01You've not been through his entire display.

38:02He's kind of anignon.

38:03Yeah, we've struggled.

38:04That's part of his ritual attempts.

38:05But we'll see, starting on Thursday night.

38:06Look, I'm not saying he's ahead of Drake May.

38:07He has looked good, though.

38:08He's

38:09I'm gonna actually say, we didn't really touch on him

38:10He made some good throws today.

38:11Yeah, like, in the red zone and stuff, he needs to get some touch.

38:14Like yesterday, I asked him what he was trying to

38:15welcome the Joe Milton experience

38:17I wanted to see if he's aware of it and would, like, say anything.

38:20I feel like it's one of those things

38:21he's not going to acknowledge.

38:22Like with Drake, everyone kept asking about his footwork,

38:24and he just got to a point where you could tell he was like,

38:26gee, shut up with my footwork.

38:28I don't know if Joe was just sick of talking about it,

38:30but I mean, there were some incompletions that

38:32could have been completions, I think,

38:34if he had taken, like, several RPMs off the ball.

38:36So he has looked good, but just, like,

38:38enough with the fireballs to guys

38:40who are, like, 10 yards away.

38:42That's just me.

38:43I wanted to give him his flowers.

38:44Like, he's looked good, but it's just too many heaters.

38:47Let's do this before we wrap it up real quick,

38:49because we're through nine practices.

38:51We have a good sample size.

38:52Whatever your expectations were, and we all

38:55came in with different expectations

38:56for all four quarterbacks.

38:58Jacoby Brissette, over or under expectations, Brian?

39:02Exceeded, over.

39:03Exceeded, over.

39:03Taylor?

39:04Can I just say flat?

39:05You can say flat.

39:06We acknowledge you had high expectations.

39:08Drake May, over, under, or flat?

39:11Flat.

39:12Flat.

39:13I would say over, just recently, though, I would say.

39:16Because I was starting to kind of worry about it.

39:18Yeah, but now that he's growing,

39:19that's what I wanted to see.

39:20I knew it wouldn't be perfect.

39:21But yeah, I'd say exceeding, because he

39:22started to scare me.

39:23I'm going to say under.

39:24I think there's context to that, that I'm not,

39:28he's just under my expectations.

39:30I understand why it's happened, and I'm not

39:32worried about him long term.

39:33But we'll call a spade a spade.

39:35Through nine practices, he's not exactly

39:36where I thought he would be at this point.

39:37Not jarring, but a little bit.

39:39If I were going on day one, I would also say under, too.

39:41So I get that.

39:41Bailey Zappi, over, under, level?

39:47Usage can factor into this.

39:49If he's just repping us, I'd say level, honestly.

39:51I would say flat.

39:52He's just kind of been Bailey Zappi, right?

39:55So flat.

39:56He's had one play that's caught my attention.

39:57It was yesterday.

39:58He stepped up a couple of hitches in Nick Cajon.

40:00Which you kind of saw last year, right?

40:01More of that improviser ability.

40:03But yeah, he's just kind of been Bailey Zappi.

40:05I would say kind of flat, especially the way

40:06his reps started to drop off in the spring.

40:08Joe Milton, over, under, flat?

40:10A little over, just because I thought

40:12that he was going to make some rookie mistakes,

40:14throw into some bad windows.

40:15It feels like he's consistently finding the right guy, which

40:18he's getting a lot of red zone opportunities.

40:20So kind of like Drake May, he's doing better

40:22than I would anticipate for a young guy.

40:24But it's also, I say slightly, because again, you

40:28don't have to kill the guy every time.

40:30We can be clear, the bar, we're setting our bars for where

40:33we thought these guys would be.

40:35The bar for Drake May and the bar for Joe Milton

40:37are not the same.

40:37Of course, of course.

40:38So I'll go over for Joe Milton.

40:40But if his bar was where Drake May's was, I would say under.

40:44I'll say this with Joe Milton.

40:45I've liked the decision making.

40:46The decision making has been better than I thought.

40:48But like you said, he is still spraying it a little bit.

40:50And he does need some touch.

40:51Brian, over, under, flat Joe Milton?

40:53I'd probably go over.

40:55I'll go with the guys.

40:56Any other players you think it might be fun to do that for?

40:59I'm trying to think of who's been the most up and down

41:01contentious player in camp.

41:02It's probably been Taekwon.

41:03But Taekwon, I would say the rookie.

41:05I feel like it's been Drake May, but.

41:07Yeah, no, you're right, Drake May.

41:08All right, offensive line as a group.

41:11Over, under, flat, Taylor?

41:13Over, but they're also starting to take steps back.

41:16But the fact that they were competitive,

41:17and I think they still have been competitive for the most part.

41:19For nine days in a row.

41:20So I'd say after that second padded practice, where

41:22we had the same tackles for four straight sessions,

41:26it seemed like they were really building some momentum.

41:28Like, I was over.

41:30I was really kind of gaining some confidence in that group.

41:33And then we saw, like, Vardarian Lowe goes in.

41:36And now Chooks, Korafor, and Calvin Anderson are hurt.

41:38So as you said, like, kind of losing it a little bit.

41:41But I still think it's been relatively solid.

41:43I'm with Brian.

41:44I'll say flat.

41:45I don't think they could come in under where

41:47my expectations were.

41:48I was really worried about this offensive line.

41:50But here we, at one point it was over, like you said.

41:52But nine practices in, it still feels like it's

41:55all kind of up in the air.

41:56I don't love to see that.

41:57So I'm going to say flat.

41:58This one's just for Brian.

41:59Chad Ryland, over, under, flat.

42:01Over.

42:02All right, fair enough.

42:02What about their receiving core, though?

42:04I think that's a pretty interesting one.

42:05Because expectations were very, like, they're 3-2.

42:08It's interesting, though.

42:10Receivers, I'll say over.

42:12Because if you look at it, there's

42:14been positives for just about everybody.

42:16Everybody, like, notable.

42:17The one guy there hasn't been.

42:18I didn't have a ton of expectations

42:19for him coming in anyway.

42:21So I'll say over for the receivers.

42:23Yeah, I would go over.

42:24I mean, you're seeing some encouraging flashes

42:26from the rookie receivers.

42:28Even a guy like KJ Osborne, like, I was just kind of like,

42:31OK, like, he's a sturdy veteran in the room.

42:33Is he going to give you much on the field?

42:35Great day today.

42:36And then, you know, Pop coming back.

42:37We talked about him on the top.

42:38But, like, he's just been awesome.

42:40So yeah, I would go over.

42:41It's been pretty encouraging from that group.

42:43So first of all, let's remember to do this

42:45as a segment at the end of camp.

42:46Because it's a really good idea.

42:47But I do want to throw one more in before we wrap it up.

42:50Did you say receivers?

42:51You said receivers.

42:52You kind of started us off on that.

42:53I want to make sure we're not covering up for anything

42:56or anything like that.

42:58Cornerbacks over under flat.

43:00Under.

43:01Under.

43:01Yeah.

43:02Under.

43:02That's probably the biggest.

43:03Because the receivers have been doing pretty well.

43:04That's probably the biggest under.

43:05Well, you know how much chicken and the egg, right?

43:08Are the receivers overperforming?

43:09What we thought.

43:09Are the corners underperforming?

43:11Usually, it's somewhere in the middle.

43:12But we'll see.

43:13On Thursday, we'll get a much better idea

43:15with the first preseason game.

43:16Two more practices before that.

43:17But really, this all kind of bundles together

43:19into a game week.

43:19So final question before we get out of here, guys.

43:22We'll put Drake May to the side.

43:23Obviously, he's the biggest story of this camp.

43:27We're all watching him.

43:28Besides Drake May, what is the biggest

43:29thing you're tracking going into and through

43:31that first preseason game?

43:32Taylor.

43:32I'll say Caden Wallace.

43:33Because I think if he can be at least a functional starter

43:37for your offense, that's huge.

43:38So I'm going to be watching him, especially now

43:40that we actually get film and we can review things.

43:42I'll be watching him very closely.

43:43Ryan.

43:44Yeah, I mean, I was going to say the offensive line.

43:45Just who is out there?

43:46Like, who's the starting five out there?

43:49But I mean, we just talked about the cornerbacks.

43:51Like, is one of those young guys going

43:53to start maybe gaining some ground now

43:54that we get into actual football and they can tackle?

43:58So yeah, seeing if one of those guys,

44:00if they get a sturdy third option behind Christian

44:02Gonzalez and Jonathan Jones.

44:04So you guys hit on the big ones, offensive line, corners.

44:07I'm going to give you a kind of sneaky big one.

44:08Kicker.

44:09Besides that, it's not sneaky.

44:10Edge.

44:11Guys on the edge.

44:12Two main guys I'll point out.

44:13One, Keone White.

44:15I've been very high on his year two jump.

44:17We haven't talked about him as much the last couple of days.

44:19But remember, he was like the star of the preseason

44:22last year.

44:22He was the breakout rookie of the preseason last year.

44:25So looking forward to seeing what he can do in live action.

44:28And O'Shane Zemenez.

44:30Feels like a guy that might play a bigger role, Matthew Judon

44:32Arnault.

44:33Let's see what he does in some game action.

44:35And we'll have you covered up to and through the first

44:38preseason game for CLNS.

44:39Make sure you subscribe to that Patriots Press Pass YouTube

44:42feed.

44:42Taylor's got more coverage on CLNSmedia.com.

44:45Brian's got more coverage on patspulpit.com.

44:47You can read me on 98fivethesportshub.com.

44:51We got a day off, boys, so we'll enjoy that.

44:53I actually don't.

44:53I'll be on the radio 10 to 2 tomorrow on 98fivethesportshub

44:56with Joe Murray, so you can check that out.

44:57But you guys enjoy your day off.

44:59All some fun with Joe tomorrow.

45:00We'll be back on Monday for training camp 10 of this summer

45:04with the Patriots.

45:04Until then, have a good one, everybody.

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