Sheffield Wednesday’s dreadful Middlesbrough defeat discussed
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00:00 Joe Crown and Alex Vela outside the Riverside Stadium where we've watched one of the worst performances, if not the worst performance of the season.
00:10 I don't think it's hyperbole to say that. We're generally pretty positive guys, Joe, but difficult to pick out positives from that one.
00:21 Yes, and I think it says a lot, the reaction from the manager afterwards. He's been very defensive of his players, even after the Huddersfield game, he was trying to look for positives.
00:34 He used that phrase 'protect them'.
00:36 Yes, he tried to protect them and he did not do that today. The first words he came out with was 'we were nothing'.
00:45 He said the fans were Premier League and the team was just not. We've not seen that angry before, have we?
00:51 Not even close. I don't know about you, it sort of took me aback because he has been so measured in a lot of the stuff that he's said, even after a 6-0 defeat and this, that and the other.
01:02 He's come in for criticism as well. In the last couple of weeks after that he'd switched defeat and it just felt like there was a bit of a line drawn in the sand in that post-match press conference.
01:11 We gather he was very similar in his radio interview as well as us in the press. It was clearly a message that he wanted to get across.
01:19 Obviously, the results elsewhere today, I don't bear much thinking about.
01:25 I suppose the positive is, because so many people are in that mix or have been in that mix, that even when some teams win, Huddersfield didn't, Plymouth didn't, so you're still clinging on. That's the only solace we can really take from this at the moment.
01:43 We've been clinging on for months and weeks past. We've both written and I think everyone's aware of the magnitude of getting Wednesday even to where they are.
01:51 It's been a monumental achievement but there are six matches remaining now. It's sort of wheedling away.
01:58 What are opportunities to get out? The fact is that Wednesday just needs to do that. They haven't been out of the bottom three for 227 days, I think.
02:06 They were out for 20 minutes, as we did for today.
02:08 On a Saturday night, a Tuesday night. It's a concern now and the trip down to QPR on Saturday, obviously QPR are one of the teams down there.
02:19 My days, what a big game that is.
02:21 Yes, and they obviously got a good result today. They've been talking about Cup finals for about 10 or 11 games now.
02:32 Now you get into the stage when, I mean, could have got out of the bottom three in the last game, could have got out of it today. Didn't on either occasion.
02:39 Obviously Swansea came out of that game with some positives. Their performance was strong, even if the result wasn't what they wanted.
02:46 Today, the result nor the performance was what they were after.
02:49 So, got to go to QPR away, obviously, which makes it that little bit more difficult than if you're taking them at home.
02:55 I thought it was interesting with Danny's post-match, usually they keep things behind closed doors when you ask them what has been said.
03:02 Danny just said he showed them one clip.
03:05 He showed them one clip of them not tracking back after something happened and that was all he said he needed to show them.
03:13 He said that they didn't invest enough, was his words, wasn't it?
03:17 A seismic moment, I think, that post-match. We'll see how the players respond. We'll see how Danny and the coaching staff respond.
03:23 Yeah, Sheffield Wednesday as an entity as Loftus Road becomes a place where things might not necessarily live or die, but as I said, it feels like a very weak weekend indeed coming up next.
03:38 Keep you locked, as ever, to the start at Coda UK. We'll have all the reaction from this miserable afternoon and looking ahead to that big, big game at the Capital next week.