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00:23 I'm your host, Kelly Crichton,
00:24 and I'm joined today by National World TV critics,
00:27 Benjamin Jackson and Philip Cunnington,
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00:56 each week we'll be chatting about what we've been watching
00:58 as well as looking more closely at a new program
01:00 or something making the headlines on the deep dive.
01:03 This week, Phil has been binging
01:06 the underdog Josh Must Win, which is available on E4.
01:10 I think we just call it, it's all four, isn't it now?
01:12 - Yeah, it's changed its name many times,
01:15 but I think all of them are streaming on there.
01:18 - It'll probably have a different name
01:20 before the end of this episode.
01:21 And then finally, we go back to the future
01:24 to tell you about a program
01:25 you may have missed when it first aired or streamed.
01:28 And this week, Benji is reviewing "Man Down,"
01:31 starring none other than Rick Mayle,
01:33 who we talked about a few weeks ago
01:34 when Stephen was covering "The Young Ones,"
01:37 and Greg Davies, who is currently starring in "Everything"
01:42 and hosting everything. - Yeah, frigging hell.
01:44 - So first we like to talk about
01:46 what everyone has been watching recently.
01:47 And Benji, I think I was hoping things
01:49 had kind of calmed down in your life a little bit.
01:51 Have you been watching a bit more TV recently or no?
01:55 - (sighs) Yes, I have,
01:57 but not the television you want me to be watching, Kelly.
01:59 - Oh. - I don't know
02:01 if anyone realizes, but I've made no shame whatsoever
02:06 in admitting that I'm a big professional wrestling fan.
02:10 And this week happens to be the week of WrestleMania,
02:14 which is effectively the Super Bowl.
02:16 - 40? Is it WrestleMania 40?
02:18 Is this when you're that great? - Yeah, but I don't like
02:20 using kind of like, you know, numbers now,
02:22 'cause he who will not be named,
02:24 that used to own that company,
02:25 used to think that putting a number next to WrestleMania
02:30 made it feel old instead of like prestigious.
02:33 But yeah, we're on the 40th iteration now,
02:35 so I've been rewatched.
02:37 And again, Kelly, it's just been fantastic.
02:40 The storytelling has been incredible.
02:43 We're all leading up to this big crescendo of finale
02:46 between Roman Reigns, who's the current champion,
02:49 who's held the title for about two years,
02:51 and Cody Rhodes, who is much like Philip
02:54 is gonna be talking about with the show
02:56 that he's doing a deep dive in,
02:57 the underdog battling against anything and everything.
03:00 You know, we've had Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson
03:03 return as well, and he's just gone into flow.
03:05 - Oh, I didn't know that.
03:07 - No, no, so the surprise that he will be wrestling
03:09 at WrestleMania in a tag team match.
03:11 - No way. - Yeah way.
03:13 You know, years, years, years after the fact
03:16 that he was told he couldn't wrestle anymore
03:18 because the insurance on him doing Jumanji 2
03:20 would be far, far, far, far more expensive
03:24 than people would like to do.
03:25 And yet it's just been incredible.
03:28 I hate to say it, and Philip, I'll apologize in advance,
03:31 but it's got real Game of Thrones
03:34 kind of long-term storytelling.
03:36 I'm enjoying it, I'm enjoying it.
03:39 And then I'll add- - I love it.
03:40 - I just- - I love it as well.
03:42 - Oh, I mean, you know, if your idea of a Saturday
03:46 and Sunday night WrestleMania is,
03:48 if your idea of the weekend is watching big, meaty men
03:53 slapping each other in big, meaty fashion,
03:55 then it's for you.
03:57 But if you like a more nuanced form of storytelling,
04:00 which has different kind of branches
04:02 coming off the one solitary storyline
04:05 that is the hunt for the world championship,
04:07 then you can also like it as well.
04:09 So TNT Sports, you can catch up on Raw, SmackDown,
04:14 the whole gamut of wrestling programming
04:17 ahead of WrestleMania, which kicks off at 1 a.m.
04:21 on TNT Sport, Peacock if you're in America,
04:24 or the WWE Network on Sunday morning, 1 a.m.,
04:28 and Monday morning, 1 a.m.
04:30 So guess who's not coming in to work on Monday morning?
04:33 - Do you know what?
04:36 I grew up, when we first got Sky TV,
04:39 like that was when WWF was really taking off
04:41 back in the day.
04:42 And I have five brothers,
04:44 so literally it was wall-to-wall wrestling.
04:47 And I was for years, you know, so I'm with you.
04:51 I have been a fan.
04:52 I kind of love the story, the stories,
04:57 the spinning of the stories.
05:01 It's great.
05:01 I mean, it all started back then, didn't it?
05:03 Well, look Benji, more power to you.
05:05 Enjoy it, enjoy it.
05:06 Right, over to you, Phil.
05:08 What have you been watching of late?
05:10 - I've been watching a few,
05:11 I've been watching a couple of new things
05:12 and a couple of old things.
05:14 I've watched "Passenger", it's a new ITV drama
05:18 which started last week,
05:21 which I can't quite make out.
05:24 It seems to be a lot of different things
05:26 all at the same time.
05:28 There's a supernatural thriller going on.
05:30 There's a police procedural, there's domestic drama.
05:33 There's sort of North-South divide type thing.
05:37 There's a lot going on in it.
05:39 And I'm sort of, I've watched three episodes now
05:44 and I'm not sure if I just give up on it
05:47 or if I'm too invested to give up on it.
05:50 - How many episodes in total do you know?
05:52 - There's six, I believe.
05:53 - Oh sure, you're halfway there now,
05:54 you might as well keep going.
05:55 - Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.
05:57 It is intriguing.
05:59 - Yeah.
06:00 - There's a sort of atmosphere to it
06:01 that kind of keeps you watching.
06:03 - Okay, okay.
06:04 - It is quite difficult to work out where it's going to go.
06:07 - You might be pleasantly surprised by the end,
06:09 you know, if it's kept this far.
06:10 - Yeah, yeah.
06:11 - Okay, cool.
06:12 - It's written by an actor called Andrew Buchan
06:14 who's been in Broadchurch, one of the things he was in.
06:17 - Oh, okay, okay.
06:19 - I think he was Olivia Colman's husband in Broadchurch.
06:22 - Ah, right, okay.
06:24 And then anything else worth mentioning?
06:26 Anything?
06:27 - Well, there's ER I've been watching.
06:30 - Oh my God, my sister just finished
06:32 re-watching the whole thing.
06:33 - Oh yeah, I'm a fan of it.
06:34 - What a rollercoaster.
06:35 - Back in the day.
06:36 - What a rollercoaster.
06:37 - It's all on Channel 4's online platform, whatever it is.
06:42 And it's just, I love it.
06:45 - Oh, it's the best.
06:46 Isn't it the best?
06:47 Oh, I can actually so clearly remember scenes from ER.
06:50 - Yeah, I was gonna say.
06:51 - To see where Carter gets stabbed and oh my God.
06:54 - Not to give too many spoilers away,
06:55 but the scene, Dr. Carter reading that letter
06:59 is just one of the most, I mean, bits every single time.
07:04 - Did you have a favorite episode by chance, Philip?
07:08 - Oh, favorite episode.
07:11 I know, it's like asking you to name
07:12 your favorite firstborn child, but.
07:14 - Well, I can tell you, I think I can tell you roughly
07:19 when I started falling out of love with it.
07:22 - Okay.
07:23 - Is when a helicopter fell on Dr. Romano.
07:26 - Oh, and he got his hand chopped off.
07:27 - I mean, like it was basically
07:29 a shark jump moment, wasn't it?
07:30 - It was, yeah.
07:31 - Yeah.
07:32 - But wasn't it kind of poetic justice?
07:34 'Cause we all kind of hated him, you know what I mean?
07:37 - Yes, well, initially he got his hand chopped off.
07:41 Well, we're giving away a few too many spoilers here,
07:44 but I think initially he got his hand chopped off.
07:46 - Yeah.
07:47 - But then a few series later,
07:48 a helicopter did fall on him from what I can remember.
07:50 - Okay, right, fair enough.
07:51 - I haven't gone back to that.
07:52 I'm only on series four in my watch through
07:56 and there's, I think another 11 series to go.
08:00 - Oh God, yeah.
08:00 - It's quite a long way to go.
08:02 - I mean, I'm-
08:03 - Yeah, my sister was on maternity leave,
08:04 so she managed to watch all of it.
08:06 Like literally, she sent me a message
08:07 in the middle of the day saying,
08:08 "Crying Dr. Green," or whatever.
08:10 I feel like, okay.
08:12 - My memory of the hour will forever be that episode
08:15 where George Clooney was trying to rescue that kid
08:18 out of the storm drain.
08:19 I remember watching that back in the '90s
08:21 and just going, "I don't know why I'm too young for this.
08:24 "This is an adult show, but I'm really into George Clooney."
08:29 And then he went and did "From Dust to Unborn,"
08:31 which ticked that kind of bloodlust you have
08:32 when you're a young male, so.
08:35 - Yeah, yeah, yeah.
08:36 Oh gosh.
08:37 Good times, good program.
08:39 Yeah, miss it, big time, miss it.
08:41 I still watch Grey's Anatomy,
08:42 but there's nothing quite like ER
08:46 in terms of a hospital drama.
08:47 But yeah, so, no, that's cool, that's good.
08:50 Oh God, well done, Phil, that's a lot.
08:52 I have two things to mention this week.
08:54 I watched the "Long Good Friday,"
08:57 which I'd never seen before.
08:58 I started it on for, "Long Good," on Friday,
09:01 on Good Friday.
09:03 I'll try that again.
09:04 I started it on Good Friday and I fell asleep.
09:07 So the "Long Good Friday"
09:09 turned into the "Long Saturday" as well.
09:11 But my God, what a film.
09:14 I just, I was just like, "Oh my God,
09:17 this I'm sure was really good at the time,
09:19 but it's so bad in bits now."
09:21 But it was also, like I enjoyed it,
09:24 but I was kind of surprised that it's gone,
09:26 it's such a big part of British movie iconography
09:31 and history and everything.
09:33 I'm a bit like, "Really?"
09:34 But I guess when you look at it of the time,
09:37 you can see kind of why it was.
09:38 And it was pre a lot of the mafia movies in America,
09:42 besides like "The Godfather."
09:43 So it was probably pre "Goodfellas"
09:45 and things like that, you know?
09:46 So it was funny 'cause he's a sort of
09:50 a different type of mobster.
09:51 There's a bit more emotion than we see nowadays, you know?
09:54 So someone gets killed and they're actually kind of sad
09:58 or kind of disturbed by it.
10:00 Whereas nowadays it's like they kill someone and that's it.
10:02 They don't bat an eyelid, you know?
10:04 But I enjoyed it.
10:06 Bob Hoskins was great and Helen Mirren
10:07 and the guy who plays Charlie in "Casualty."
10:09 Don't know what his name is.
10:10 But yeah, it was interesting.
10:13 But I read up about it afterwards
10:15 and a very young Pierce Brosnan was in it
10:16 with really bad teeth before he obviously was
10:20 Californianized or whatever.
10:22 And yeah, it's worth a watch.
10:25 It's on, you can get it on Channel 4 as well at the moment
10:28 if anybody's interested in doing that.
10:30 And the other thing I watched was,
10:32 I've watched loads of things,
10:33 but I wanted to mention there's a new series on BBC
10:35 called "This Town" based in Birmingham.
10:38 And I just watched the first episode of it last night
10:41 but I really enjoyed it.
10:42 It's actually written by Stephen Knight of Peaky Blinders.
10:46 Funny enough, set in the same part of the world.
10:50 And basically it's about a kind of an extended family
10:52 that kind of, couple of them teenagers that come together
10:55 to form a band with some other people.
10:57 And then the kind of backdrop of the sort of obviously
11:01 hard times of the '80s, riots in Birmingham,
11:04 that kind of thing.
11:05 And then also there's an Irish,
11:09 Northern Irish element to it as well
11:10 where some of the family are involved with the IRA.
11:12 And yeah, so it's interesting.
11:15 It's, I like it so far.
11:16 And there's a musical element to it, they form a band.
11:18 So there's really nice musical references
11:21 and it's tinged with music.
11:23 And Kate Tempest was involved in Dan Carey
11:26 in writing the music.
11:27 So Kate Tempest is fabulous.
11:29 So it's gonna, I think be really good.
11:30 And poetry and, so it's cool.
11:32 It's nice, it's a nice mishmash of things.
11:34 I think it's gonna be really good.
11:35 So I would recommend that just on the first episode.
11:38 Right, we better move along.
11:41 Come back in part two where we will be talking to Benji
11:45 about Man Down.
11:47 And we'll be talking to Phil about The Underdog,
11:49 Josh Must Win.
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11:56 Moving along, Phil, you have been inhaling
12:08 The Underdog, Josh Must Win.
12:11 Now available on that Channel 4 channel.
12:14 Right Phil, tell us, tell us about it.
12:16 I like the idea of this, I have to say.
12:18 So tell us what it's about.
12:20 Less inhaling, more choking.
12:22 But it's, so the basic premise is that it's a reality show
12:27 like we've seen countless times before.
12:29 There's nine contestants go into a fancy pants house.
12:33 They're competing against each other in a show
12:35 that they think is called The Favourite.
12:38 And at the end of the sort of, the run of the series,
12:43 one of them will win a prize of 10,000 pounds.
12:46 Okay.
12:47 They compete in various tasks.
12:48 They have to name their most favourite
12:50 and least favourite person in the house each day.
12:53 Okay, okay.
12:54 It's a bit like Big Brother, so.
12:56 Yeah, so there's an eviction at the end.
12:57 So the least favourite, the person voted the least favourite
13:01 plus one other person nominated by the most favourite person
13:05 is up for eviction.
13:07 And one person gets evicted at the end of each day.
13:10 Okay.
13:11 So it's very much like the sort of thing we've seen
13:14 many, many times before.
13:16 There is a twist, however, in that next door
13:19 to this mansion are four celebrity panellists
13:21 and they are manipulating everything.
13:23 Okay.
13:25 Because of the nine contestants,
13:27 eight are your normal archetypal,
13:30 stereotypical reality contestants.
13:33 Okay.
13:33 All turkey teeth and Botox and neon and over loudness.
13:38 Okay.
13:40 And one is Josh, the underdog.
13:43 Okay.
13:43 He is a normal person, I suppose you'd say.
13:47 And the idea is that the four celebrities
13:50 manipulate the events in the house
13:51 to make sure that Josh wins.
13:53 Each time he's not-
13:55 Oh, okay.
13:56 Hence the title.
13:58 Yes.
13:58 And each time Josh is not in the bottom two,
14:01 then 10,000 pounds is added to a prize fund.
14:04 And at the end of it, if Josh wins,
14:07 the whole house shares the prize fund.
14:09 Ah, okay.
14:11 It is, the whole premise is that it's supposed to subvert
14:16 the reality format, but you sort of get the feeling
14:19 that they're kind of having their cake and eating it
14:21 in that it's very much a reality show, as we all know.
14:26 And they put in the contestants through the sort of tasks
14:31 that rely on, to a degree on public humiliation,
14:36 getting slapped in the face by a fish, for example.
14:39 And they've set Josh up as the underdog
14:44 and on initial impressions,
14:46 then you would say that that's what he looks like.
14:48 He's quite short, he's got sort of tight curly hair,
14:52 he wears big bottle bottom glasses, he's very quiet,
14:56 he doesn't push himself forward.
14:58 But he's a man that producers obviously realize
15:01 with hidden depths, because, and Benji will like this,
15:03 he's a professional wrestler.
15:05 (laughing)
15:07 The Spitfire.
15:13 They're rising up.
15:14 Yeah, happy at subverting reality television
15:19 and you've kept me with wrestling,
15:20 please, Philip, continue.
15:22 And he's obviously, all the men in the house,
15:27 in fact, all the women as well, they're incredibly buff,
15:30 I think is the word these days.
15:32 To use a technical word.
15:35 To be fair, so is Josh.
15:36 And by the time he's been in the house a couple of days,
15:39 his confidence is growing,
15:40 partly because it's been manipulated
15:42 so that he's winning things
15:44 and he's ingratiating himself with the other housemates.
15:47 So he starts walking around with his top off,
15:50 all these kinds of things.
15:52 He gets the chance to show off some of his wrestling prowess
15:56 which obviously impresses all the other housemates.
16:00 So there's a talent show task and his talent is wrestling.
16:05 And they send in what they call morphs,
16:08 which are men in these sort of all in one lycra body suits
16:11 with no faces, a bit sinister really.
16:15 But so he wrestles one of them
16:18 and sort of slams it onto a crash mat
16:20 and all this kind of thing.
16:22 And they learn in one episode
16:25 that he saved a little girl's life
16:28 by preventing her from going under the wheels
16:29 of a pickup truck on a busy road.
16:31 So the producers have very, very carefully selected
16:35 their underdog.
16:37 - Okay, okay.
16:38 - And eventually revealing these hidden depths to him.
16:40 - Is that real?
16:41 Is that real?
16:42 So he has saved somebody?
16:44 - Apparently so, apparently so.
16:47 - Wow, this is a little bit strange, okay.
16:49 - It is, it is.
16:50 - Yeah, it's Chantel and Big Brother, isn't it?
16:53 Chantel, do you remember that?
16:55 Chantel came in to Celebrity Big Brother
16:58 in, I don't know, it was late 2000s
17:01 and everybody else was famous.
17:03 But they told her to pretend she was famous
17:06 like a pop star or whatever.
17:08 And then she ended up winning, didn't she?
17:10 So in a way they have a format for it.
17:13 You can see where they got the format from.
17:14 - The final sort of twist, I suppose,
17:17 is that if any of the housemates twig
17:20 that something strange is happening
17:22 and sort of say that Josh is being manipulated into winning,
17:27 then that's the game over and no one wins.
17:30 So there's a little bit of a tension there
17:32 in the house in terms of them not wanting to reveal too much,
17:37 not wanting it to be too obvious.
17:39 - Good, good, thank you for that.
17:41 That was interesting.
17:43 I like some of the characters that you mentioned,
17:45 like Vicky Pattinson is good quality usually,
17:47 and Nick Grimshaw is usually good quality as well.
17:49 So they have some decent people there.
17:51 - These, this is the first time,
17:52 'cause I don't watch a lot of reality stuff.
17:55 The thing that drew me to this was the idea
17:56 that the subversive idea of it,
17:59 that they were gonna sort of upend the reality genre,
18:03 which hasn't quite for me anyway.
18:06 But the interesting about it is that
18:07 you're seeing more of the real people, I suppose,
18:12 rather than the reality show stereotype.
18:14 - Yeah, yeah, yeah.
18:15 - And that applies to Vicky.
18:16 I mean, Vicky Pattinson comes across
18:17 really, really well in it.
18:19 - Brilliant, thanks for that, Phil.
18:20 Right, Benji, we are going back to the future with "Man Down."
18:24 And as I said off air before we came out,
18:26 I've never, I don't think I've ever seen it.
18:29 And if I have, it was accidentally.
18:30 Tell us about it.
18:31 - I was gonna say, is there a reason why?
18:32 'Cause there was a reason why I didn't initially,
18:36 when it first came out, wanna watch it.
18:38 And for me, it was, I always thought Greg Davies,
18:40 because of "Taskmaster," seemed a bit like a mean person,
18:44 to be honest with you.
18:45 But I've returned back to it because evidently,
18:48 Greg Davies is back on our TV screens
18:50 with the latest season of "Taskmaster."
18:52 The man's, like Callie mentioned,
18:54 is just on tour as well across the UK,
18:57 and I think the United States,
18:59 which would explain why he appeared last week
19:02 on "Late Night" with Seth Meyers.
19:05 And I really enjoyed it.
19:06 I mean, for me, it's an archival show first and foremost,
19:10 because it is the last television appearance of Rick Mayall,
19:14 who died sadly shortly after the filming of,
19:17 was it the 2013 Christmas special that they did?
19:22 And I always loved the chemistry
19:24 between Rick Mayall and Greg Davies.
19:27 For a start, they looked like they could be related.
19:30 And I know Greg Davies always makes a joke
19:32 that people come up to me and ask me,
19:34 "Am I Rick Mayall's son?"
19:36 So, you know, there is a similarity.
19:38 And Rick Mayall has gone back into a full-blown kind of,
19:43 how would I best describe this?
19:46 Obnoxious, ritzy, from bottom territory,
19:50 where he plays the father of Greg Davies,
19:53 who seems to more want to treat his son
19:55 like his best friend, pranking him ridiculously,
19:58 rather than being an attentive father.
20:02 Having said that, Greg Davies' character
20:04 always brings it on himself.
20:06 He plays a schoolteacher that kind of loathes
20:09 being a drama teacher,
20:11 but also has kind of like a little soft spot for,
20:14 I think it's one of the assistant principals.
20:19 But the cast that join Greg Davies,
20:22 it's kind of like a who's who of that,
20:24 as we've mentioned in previous Screen Babbles,
20:26 that new wave of alternative comedians.
20:28 So you've got Roycen Cointy,
20:32 who was brilliant, plays the kind of absent-minded friend
20:35 that keeps coming up with money-making ideas
20:38 that are ridiculous.
20:40 One of my favorite examples being that she'll go in
20:43 and do a job that no one's asked to do
20:45 and expect to be paid for it.
20:47 It's like part-time, part-time work,
20:48 and I think she pakes it as.
20:50 And with Rick Mayall's unfortunate death,
20:54 they did try to fill that position
20:55 with another luminary of, let's say, '90s television,
21:01 Stephanie Cole, who, if I remember correctly,
21:03 made a name with "Waiting for God,"
21:05 that BBC comedy series set in a nursing home.
21:09 - Okay. - She's good,
21:11 but I mean, for me, the MVP of the show,
21:15 and it's not a goose, I'm not spoiling it for anyone,
21:19 is Mike Wozniak, who plays the put-upon friend
21:22 that he's every bit the straight man
21:25 compared to everyone around him
21:27 who are having their own kind of issues,
21:30 including Greg Davies, who you'd think
21:32 would be the straight man
21:33 with all this wild stuff going on around him.
21:36 But I felt it might have tailed off a little bit
21:39 after Rick Mayall's death,
21:41 and it does kind of bit, - Okay.
21:42 - 'cause you lose that kind of energy
21:44 between him and Greg Davies,
21:46 but overall, it's a fantastic cast.
21:49 I enjoy Greg Davies,
21:50 especially when he's doing mean things on "Taskmaster,"
21:53 getting everything and anything thrown at him.
21:56 And it's a fantastic watch.
21:58 Definitely bingeable,
22:00 and it is available not only on Netflix,
22:03 but if you don't have a subscription to that,
22:05 it is also available on "At This Hour,"
22:07 the Channel 4 streaming service.
22:09 - How many series did you say, and how many episodes?
22:12 - Four seasons in total,
22:13 which would equate to about 38 to 40.
22:16 There was two Christmas specials as well,
22:18 the 2013, which was the last one Rick Mayall starred in,
22:22 and then the 2014 one,
22:23 which introduced the Stephanie Coles character
22:26 as a friend of the family,
22:28 who's every bit as ditzy as Rick Mayall's character was,
22:32 just maybe not as mean-spirited.
22:34 - So, sort of in that genre of many of this
22:39 are great British sitcoms,
22:41 considering the fact that there's-
22:41 - Yeah, it's kind of like if some mothers do have,
22:46 if some mothers do have them,
22:47 had a little bit of a more crass sensibility to it,
22:51 you could draw that comparison.
22:54 It's the great British kind of crossover
22:57 between that slapstick humor we expect
23:00 from like "Carry On" films, "Morgan Wise,"
23:02 and stuff like that,
23:04 along with the more kind of alternative takes
23:06 of the young ones that, you know,
23:08 edging towards gross-out humor,
23:10 but not egregariously gross-out.
23:13 So, yeah, it does have those hallmarks
23:18 that you would imagine of British comedy,
23:20 which would make sense,
23:22 'cause Rick Mayall being royalty
23:25 in terms of the alternative comedy scene,
23:27 but of course people still have a soft spot
23:29 for Eric and Ernie as well, so.
23:31 - All right, there you go.
23:34 That's a one-liner.
23:35 We can just chat that out.
23:35 - There you go.
23:36 Sexy some mothers do have them.
23:38 There we go.
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