Sports Talk with Aldi Bawazier: Indonesia 2024 U-23 Asian Cup Review
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00:02 Hi, everyone.
00:03 Welcome back.
00:03 It is time for another signature segment of ours, a sports talk.
00:07 And prior to that, we're going to recap what happened last night
00:09 as Indonesia lost 2-0 to Uzbekistan in the semifinal round of the 2024
00:15 AFC Under-23 Qatar Asian Cup at the Abdullah bin Khalifa Stadium
00:19 in Doha, Qatar yesterday.
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00:31 With only one win left until the Olympics,
00:34 Indonesia faced a bitter defeat with the main defender's exit variable.
00:39 And the additional goal immediately followed
00:42 after giving up the first goal in Uzbekistan's offensive.
00:46 Indonesia, which could not easily attack until the middle of the second half,
00:50 took a blow to Uzbekistan but cried offside.
00:54 And during the 16th minute of the second half,
00:57 the ball that flowed after Arhan's long throw on the left side
01:01 headed back to Arhan.
01:03 And Ferrari, who received the pass after Sananta's aerial ball contest
01:08 on the cross again, shook the back of the net.
01:11 Indonesian players and fans roared.
01:14 But the referee went on.
01:15 An on-field monitor review in Sananta's right foot
01:19 was confirmed to be one step ahead of the Uzbek defense
01:23 at the time of Arhan's cross declaring offside.
01:26 Head coach, Chintayong, who now still has a possibility to win his team
01:31 a ticket to the Olympics, will be competing for the chance
01:35 through a third place match against Iraq.
01:38 Third place match will be held on May the 2nd.
01:41 Meanwhile, after the match ended, PSSE chairman, Eric Tohir,
01:48 went inside the locker room to give players words of encouragement.
01:52 And via Eric Tohir's Instagram account, he mentioned that,
01:56 "In football, we have not succeeded in beating Uzbekistan,
02:00 but we win in togetherness.
02:02 And this victory is priceless.
02:04 We will all continue to work hard again to achieve third place
02:08 and to be able to compete in the Olympics.
02:10 There is still a chance for Geruda Mendunia."
02:17 Now, obviously, Indonesia has to acknowledge Uzbekistan's superiority
02:21 at the 2024 AFC Under-23 Asian Cup,
02:25 which ended 2-0 in favor of the White Wolves.
02:28 Yes, however, the chance for the Geruda Muda
02:31 to qualify for the Paris Olympics is still open,
02:34 either by securing the third place in the Under-23 Asian Cup
02:38 or through a playoff against Africa's representative, Guinea.
02:42 That's right. So, we're going to review a little bit about Indonesia's performance
02:45 so far in the tournament, as well as their prospects for the Summer Olympics.
02:50 Joining us here on Sports Talk is Aldi Bawazir,
02:53 who is a football analyst and a pundit as well.
02:56 Mas Aldi, thank you for being here today.
02:57 Thanks for having us.
02:58 Thank you.
02:59 Great to have you here.
03:00 So, let's talk a little bit about last night's performance.
03:03 We know that the young Geruda squad had been riding a lot of momentum
03:07 coming into this match as well.
03:08 How would you rate last night's performance here in the semifinals?
03:11 Well, I'm not going to say Indonesia played well last night.
03:15 I'm not going to say Indonesia played dynamic football.
03:17 I'm not Eric Denhak.
03:20 Yeah, Indonesia scrambled last night, you're right.
03:22 Especially because the story of the game is how we coped with Uzbekistan's physical approach
03:28 and then how we coped without Rafael's strike.
03:32 And the story is, we changed it with Rahman and Sananta.
03:38 So, the target of the game is we want to start early
03:43 because against Australia, we're really good at the early stage of the game.
03:50 So, Uzbekistan didn't play their best player, Jelunidov, the number 10,
03:54 which is not played also against Saudi and against Vietnam.
03:58 So, he saved their breath until the second half, which is great for Uzbekistan
04:04 because Indonesia, from the start of the game,
04:08 Uzbekistan forced us to make an error in 13 minutes, 20 minutes, and 18 minutes.
04:15 A lot of errors in our area.
04:18 And then we made a corner, like you said before,
04:22 our goalkeeper not having his best day.
04:24 So, it's hard to develop our play because we play from the back.
04:29 But Uzbekistan made a full-court press, in basketball terms, a full-court press
04:36 that we cannot develop our build-up from the back.
04:39 And also, Eran Do'ari, his distribution is really well from the throw.
04:44 But during the game, his distribution also from the feet.
04:50 So, the distribution is not until the player.
04:52 So, yeah, we cannot develop our play from our third and until the final third.
04:57 And something's wrong.
05:00 I don't know, the chemistry between Ramadan and between with Salanta or with Strike,
05:06 it went off last night.
05:07 It seems a little bit different.
05:09 We talked a little bit on Sports Talk yesterday.
05:12 I mean, in regards to us and our build-up, we do some great build-ups with this squad.
05:16 But we mentioned yesterday with another analyst that part of the Uzbekistan's strength
05:21 is the fact that they play player positioning very well.
05:25 They're able to create gaps that other teams do not create.
05:29 How much of that was a factor yesterday in throwing off our team?
05:32 Interesting your point about the gap, because Indonesia gap between the players is so, so far.
05:37 Because previously, Indonesia very compact and they play really small gap and short passes.
05:45 They really went well.
05:46 But last night, the gap between the players, especially Nathan Chuaon and Ivar Jenner,
05:51 is so far.
05:54 And bad for us, Uzbekistan can sniff the blood and they play not only from the flank,
06:02 but through the middle.
06:03 Yes.
06:04 Through the middle pass.
06:05 And they're known for playing through the flanks, right?
06:06 Yes.
06:07 They're not expecting that as well.
06:08 Yes, because Uzbekistan thought Indonesia will play through the flank.
06:11 But no, Indonesia is hard to play on the flank.
06:14 And also, the gap in the midfield is so open.
06:18 Right, right.
06:19 Do you think this has anything to do with the newly acquired team such as Nathan Chuaon
06:25 that used to play for European, especially the ARDVC Dutch Football League, right?
06:31 Which has a different approach to football than maybe Asian, especially Indonesian parts.
06:36 Good point.
06:37 Yes, it is a young team.
06:38 It's a very young team, especially in under 23.
06:41 But what makes me happy with it is the under 23, but it's prepared for the longer term.
06:48 So what makes me happy is we prepare our future football with a very young team.
06:55 So Shintayong will make this team through every competition.
07:02 So it's different with other teams that rely on the player with 28 years old, 29 years
07:08 old.
07:09 This team relies on the player 22, 23.
07:11 So it's a really good story, yes.
07:13 But Nathan Chuaon still needs time.
07:15 But yes, his debut time, he played as a left back, not really well.
07:22 But as a central midfielder, his vision, his passing, his collaboration with Ivan Jenner,
07:27 how he sees the gap between the opponent is really good.
07:33 But yes, I'm happy with this team.
07:35 And what makes me happy is, like Mr. Eric Tohil said, "Unite the nation."
07:41 You say I'm a football enthusiast, football fan or everything, but I swear I've never watched
07:47 under 23 at 4 in the morning, but this team met me.
07:51 And I'm sure you too, right?
07:53 Well, we saw all the highlights of all the watch parties all across Indonesia, not just
07:58 in the main part of the city.
07:59 I've never seen anything like that before either.
08:01 It's a loss.
08:02 You can imagine.
08:03 In a loss, exactly.
08:04 It's a loss, yes.
08:05 Speaking of losses, let's look at the other side of the bracket, where Iraq lost to Japan.
08:10 Tell us what your thoughts are on this outcome.
08:12 For us, it's good to have Iraq.
08:15 Okay, better for us to face Iraq in the fans.
08:17 Yes, because Japan is...
08:19 People say, "Yes, in the group stage, they cannot win against Korea.
08:22 We still win against Korea, so it's a good chance for us."
08:25 It's not work like that, because Japan is more sophisticated in the youth development,
08:31 young rank.
08:33 Everything is ahead of us.
08:35 But Iraq, for us, Iraq is a pit of pit and pots with like a Jordan.
08:42 They pump the ball inside the box and waiting for the opening to make an error.
08:48 But Japan is more technical.
08:51 Very technical.
08:52 That's going to be a problem.
08:53 But Iraq, I'm confident we can finish against Iraq.
08:57 It's more chances for us to finish and grab the Olympic spot in the final third, rather
09:05 than Gini in the...
09:06 I have to say against...
09:08 Playoff.
09:09 Yes, playoff.
09:10 So, are you saying that you're confident that we will get that spot to be at Olympics?
09:13 Yes.
09:14 We'll have a better chance, at least I think.
09:15 Me too.
09:16 I have the same thoughts as well than facing Japan.
09:18 Right.
09:19 So, we want to come back to the game again, because we've been seeing that on the game
09:26 that the dynamics of Indonesia, it shifted after the referee disallowed the Ferrari's
09:32 goal and issued Rizky Rido a red card.
09:37 And let's take a look first.
09:41 Okay, here we're seeing this.
09:46 Tell us your thoughts.
09:47 Take us through this.
09:48 I'm not going to sit here and blame the ref, no.
09:49 But yes, people said it's not active.
09:52 Ramadhan is inactive as a player, but it's active.
09:57 Because the rule is, people who stand between the last player of an opponent and affect
10:05 the movement and affect the sight of goalie, goalkeeper, is counted as active.
10:12 So even though Ramadhan Salahanta not in the process of the goal, but his presence there
10:19 is affected the opponent movement and opponent sight.
10:23 So yes, it's not a forced decision.
10:29 What makes me interesting in this competition is, as FC Under-23, why you don't draw the
10:35 line there?
10:36 Yeah, okay.
10:37 Why you don't draw the line there?
10:39 You should be drawing the line.
10:40 I have the same thing.
10:41 So at least there's less of an argument.
10:42 Yes, because in the previous game, the VAR in boot room, in the VAR booth, they haven't
10:48 drawn the line.
10:49 Right.
10:50 But not yesterday.
10:51 I don't know why.
10:52 We're seeing it this morning.
10:53 I don't know who in the VAR room.
10:54 I know who.
10:55 Okay.
10:56 And what about the red card?
10:57 Tell us a little bit about the red card.
11:01 Yes.
11:02 It's also debatable.
11:03 But football rules nowadays is different with 10 to 20 years ago.
11:07 Football now is more contact, about the contact.
11:11 If you watch the Arsenal against Tottenham last night, two days ago, you see the Declan
11:16 Rice giving Tottenham the penalty because he want to clear the ball and the swing of
11:21 his feet is affected other player.
11:24 So it's a foul.
11:25 Same with Rido last night.
11:28 He want to clear the ball, but the contact with the Djeladjinov is into upper body.
11:34 So it's a foul.
11:35 Because yes, as a player, he cannot pull back his feet.
11:39 That's the argument that he was already into his movement.
11:41 And Djeladjinov is smart enough to force his body into Rido's feet.
11:49 If you see the eye test, his movement, his feet is not into the ball.
11:55 Rido's feet is into the ball.
11:57 Rido is right.
11:58 He want to clear the ball.
11:59 He's right.
12:00 But the referee also right to call it a foul.
12:04 Because the effect of the contact, that's what's the matter.
12:07 The intention, maybe 10 or 20 years ago, the intention still matters.
12:13 But now what is count is the contact.
12:16 The actual contact.
12:17 The actual contact, not the intention.
12:19 It will affect the rest of the game for that player.
12:25 Since now we lost him because of this foul, so who do you think will best replace Rizky
12:32 Rido in an upcoming match against Iran?
12:34 Yes, it depends.
12:35 If Shin want to still play three at back, still option with Komang.
12:40 So Komang, Ferrari, and Hoepner.
12:43 Or if he want to switch with 4-3-3, we can Hoepner and Ferrari and Arhan with whoever
12:51 play on the right.
12:53 So it depends on Shin's tactic if he want to play four at the back or three at the back.
12:58 So if he still want to play three, Komang I think is a good option.
13:04 So looking ahead now to Iraq, it's never easy coming off of a loss.
13:08 You could see the guys in the locker room despite Mr. Erikto's speech, the heads were
13:11 a bit down.
13:13 What does Shin have to do to get the boys up again back to the level that they were
13:17 at?
13:18 And is he going to consider changing any of his strategic moves or do you think he's going
13:23 to just implement the same thing because the Garuda squad had been quite successful up
13:26 until the match against Uzbekistan?
13:28 We have to remember that we came into this tournament as the debutant.
13:33 We don't know anything about this tournament.
13:35 We're very green about it, but through the tournament, the expectation grew.
13:42 We should have been just happy just to be here, but now we want to win.
13:45 Just like that, we're already good.
13:47 We're already brilliant, but we're just an inch away from greatness.
13:53 But against Iraq, we have to be fun again.
13:57 We have to be enjoying it.
13:59 We've got to play loose again.
14:01 Because against Australia, against Jordania, you can't win this because we play really
14:07 fun football.
14:08 There was no pressure because we already lost earlier, right?
14:11 And we have to play again like that because if we play like that, we play brilliant football.
14:19 We play really good football to watch.
14:22 So against Iraq, I can't say it's negative football, Iraq, because it's really held back
14:29 and pumped the ball inside the box and waiting for the opponent to make an error.
14:34 Indonesia is more proactive.
14:35 Indonesia is more tactical.
14:37 We have a really good player through the flank, through the midfield.
14:41 We have a good striker, Rafael Strijkovic, who plays again against Iraq.
14:46 So what Shintayu needs to do against Iraq, he needs to recall the player, "Hey, you're
14:53 very good at this.
14:55 Why don't you play again like that?"
14:57 Because yesterday, I don't know, mentally, we're tired.
15:01 And it's a lot of pressure.
15:03 I can imagine at this point, they're not playing loose because they feel all the pressure of
15:07 the entire nation on them.
15:08 Yes, especially playing in a very huge stadium like that, it's not easy.
15:14 So on that note then, how important is it for Indonesia?
15:18 What do you think it would mean for all of us here in Indonesia if Indonesia is able
15:22 to grab that final ticket to the Olympics?
15:24 Can you imagine, for the picture, can you imagine Hernando Ari, right?
15:29 Saved the penalty from Kylian Mbappe.
15:31 That's the story.
15:32 Oh my goodness.
15:33 That is indeed crazy.
15:34 I'm having goosebumps right now.
15:35 Just hearing you speak.
15:37 That's the story.
15:38 Hernando Ari, Hübner, Nathan, Rafael Streich, Marcelino, they have the ability, they have
15:46 the quality to go to the Olympics and do something.
15:50 So why don't we snitch our chance here against Iraq two days from now?
15:57 Because we can do that.
15:58 I don't know against Gini because a lot of his players play in the league, young youth.
16:04 And I've spent three years in the UK playing with the Ruda Selek.
16:08 They have against a play from Gini, Mali.
16:11 They're quick, they're strong.
16:13 I don't know if we can cope with that.
16:15 Why make things difficult?
16:16 We should just win it now.
16:19 Because we can.
16:20 There's a really good chance we can win against Iraq.
16:22 So what is your predicted score?
16:24 I hate this question actually.
16:25 I know, me too.
16:26 We gotta ask.
16:27 We gotta ask.
16:28 Just random thoughts.
16:30 We have to clinch it because somehow our mental is not as strong if we maintain to clinch
16:41 it.
16:42 For example, against Korea.
16:44 We can 2-0 in the first half and then somehow we make mistakes from the left area, 2-1,
16:50 2-2.
16:51 It's draining from the mental.
16:52 So if we can keep maintaining 1-0 early goal in the first half, maybe 2-0 in the first
16:57 half and play well in the second half, maybe in 90 minutes we can lock our place, our spot
17:06 in the Olympics.
17:07 So 2-0?
17:08 2-0 I think.
17:09 Let me get your prediction, Archie.
17:11 I would go with him.
17:12 I would go with 2-0.
17:13 2-0?
17:14 Okay.
17:15 I'm gonna go with the same prediction I had yesterday which was way off obviously but
17:18 I'm still gonna stick with my one goal difference but this time I'm going 1-0, Indonesia.
17:23 Great.
17:24 1-0.
17:25 Alright.
17:26 Thank you so much for coming on here.
17:27 Thank you.
17:28 Thank you.
17:29 Hope to have you on discussing our journey to the Olympics.
17:32 Sure.
17:33 Mexico journey.
17:34 Alright, we're gonna take a short break here on the program but we've got more sports coming
17:38 for you in our sports recap segment that's coming up next.
17:41 Stay tuned.
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