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00:00Assalam-o-Alaikum viewers, you are watching the program with Kashif Abbasi.
00:03Today, in the Supreme Court, Imran Khan was presented in the case of Naib Tarameem.
00:10But the last case, which was shown live, this time it was decided that this case will not be shown live.
00:17Why? Why was it decided that this case will not be shown live?
00:22Is it because Bani Chairman, Imran Khan of Tehreek-e-Insaf was a part of this case?
00:29So, we will talk about this as well.
00:35On the other hand, Suomoto has also been taken today.
00:38Faisal Wada did a press conference.
00:40He made the judges the target of criticism.
00:43Because of that press conference, one of the three cases will be closed.
00:48We have with us Sheikh Waqas Akram.
00:50Thank you very much, Sheikh Sahib.
00:52Mohsin Ijaz, our reporter.
00:53Thank you very much.
00:54Hasnath Malik.
00:55Thank you very much.
00:56He is a reporter.
00:57We will also talk to Mohsin Raja.
00:58He will be from Lahore.
00:59Your leader was not seen today.
01:01Were you surprised?
01:03He must have been sitting on the TV.
01:05That Imran Khan's speech will be held today.
01:07We were both surprised and hurt.
01:10And then we were very happy about the fact that
01:14with a snap of our leader, the whole system is so scared
01:19that the case, which was being live-streamed,
01:24when our leader was supposed to come,
01:27he got scared, ran away, got scared.
01:30Why?
01:31He should be given an answer to this.
01:33We were very excited.
01:35After such a long time,
01:37the voice of the people,
01:39from the jail,
01:40to the non-existent people,
01:42for a glimpse of that,
01:44you see, when that picture came out,
01:46If the picture was not tolerated,
01:48then how could the whole speech be tolerated?
01:50How did that picture go viral?
01:53And where did it go?
01:55And people were kissing it,
01:57and distributing sweets,
01:59just for a glimpse of the leader.
02:01I think that if he had been seen,
02:04then I don't know what fear he had,
02:06and what Mr. Khan had to do,
02:08because of which he got scared.
02:10Let's ask him.
02:11Yes, let's ask him.
02:12What was the fear?
02:13Tell us, what was the fear,
02:14because of which Mr. Khan was not seen?
02:16Look, it is very unfortunate that
02:18either the bench would have decided,
02:20or the judges would have consulted,
02:22on such a case.
02:24Now, there is a narrative of our executive,
02:26that the picture of a person,
02:28or the voice should not come out.
02:30So, if the same narrative is being followed,
02:32by the apex court of the country,
02:34our Chief Justice Qazi Faisal,
02:36in some things,
02:38he has the same thinking.
02:40On 9th May, that day,
02:42in the Faizabad case,
02:44he did it about 6 times,
02:46and again and again,
02:48if this judgment had been implemented,
02:50then our executive would have consulted,
02:52Qazi Faisal.
02:54Today, this narrative,
02:56that the picture should not be shown,
02:58or the voice should not come out,
03:00is being followed by the Supreme Court.
03:02I think, the Supreme Court,
03:04has more empathy.
03:06Listen to me, Mr. Sashnath,
03:08what are you saying?
03:10Until his government was not there,
03:12Mr. Mian was not on TV.
03:14When this government came,
03:16Mr. Mian Nawaz Sharif used to come on TV,
03:18What kind of argument is this?
03:20Mr. Nawaz Sharif's case,
03:22should have been shown to him,
03:26he would have gone to the Islamabad court himself.
03:28There, some people from the civil society,
03:30from their side,
03:32he went as a proxy petitioner.
03:34In this way, there is no relief in 199.
03:36Mr. Nawaz Sharif would have gone himself,
03:38and would have said,
03:40my ban should be ended on TV.
03:42When we saw,
03:44that Mr. Imran Khan came to the Islamabad court,
03:46and the ban on the camera,
03:48was ended.
03:50And it was said,
03:52that his press conferences should be shown.
03:54So, this is the matter.
03:56But there will be pressure,
03:58to show Khan.
04:00No, this is absolutely right,
04:02that the Supreme Court should not have done this,
04:04if you have given a person,
04:06the right of audience.
04:08They are listening themselves,
04:10the court is listening,
04:12let the people listen.
04:14So, this is the matter,
04:16that you are following,
04:18the narrative of our executive,
04:20the Supreme Court.
04:22Even yesterday, the same debate was going on,
04:24on every TV channel.
04:26I also said,
04:28what will happen,
04:30what will be seen.
04:32I thought,
04:34there will be a lot of pressure,
04:36on the Chief Justice of Pakistan.
04:38First, that no system should be set up,
04:40which they do.
04:42What was the reason?
04:44It was very surprising.
04:46The reason is that,
04:48when this Naib Tarameem case was heard on Tuesday,
04:50all the proceedings were published,
04:52directly.
04:54But surprisingly,
04:56when this case went on,
04:58all the preparations were complete.
05:00For a long time,
05:02from Adiala Jail,
05:04the Supreme Court,
05:06Courtroom 1,
05:08was testing it,
05:10on the last hearing,
05:12that there should be no distortion,
05:14there should be no technical fault.
05:16The government of loyalty,
05:18and the government of police,
05:20will make sure that,
05:22this is not telecasted live.
05:24They have stopped that,
05:26who will stop this?
05:28At one point,
05:30Advocate General KPK,
05:32came to Hiroshima,
05:34he said,
05:36that it is not being shown directly.
05:38The Supreme Court,
05:40will not follow their SOPs.
05:42The SOPs are,
05:44that every case of 1843,
05:46will be live streamed,
05:48and the other cases,
05:50will be available,
05:52after 4 pm,
05:54on the Supreme Court website.
05:56Now, discretion is being used,
05:58pick and choose,
06:00some cases,
06:02there is a matter of protection of journalists,
06:04we have seen that,
06:06this has happened even today.
06:08In the same way,
06:10the SOPs of the Supreme Court,
06:12are not following,
06:14the SOPs of the two judges,
06:16then how can you ask others,
06:18to follow the law?
06:20We have seen many such things,
06:22recently.
06:24We have seen many such things,
06:26recently,
06:28like Malik sir is saying,
06:30that all the policies,
06:32should be the same for everyone.
06:34We have also seen that,
06:36the judges of the Supreme Court,
06:38keep asking for justice,
06:40they keep saying that,
06:42the law that was for you,
06:44should be the same for us,
06:46just follow this example,
06:48but it did not happen.
06:50Then, the live stream that was not done today,
06:52you can call it discrimination,
06:54whatever you want to call it.
06:56In any case, if the PTI,
06:58makes a formal request to the Supreme Court,
07:00and the bench,
07:02then there will be a pressure,
07:04that if Imran Khan makes a speech,
07:06then the person,
07:08who has not been shown the channel,
07:10for 8-10 months,
07:12there will be a pressure.
07:14This is going to go on for a long time,
07:16this is going to go on for a long time,
07:18today was the first hearing,
07:20there were arguments of the government lawyer,
07:22they have to take 5-6 hearings more,
07:24and Mr. Khan must have been in every hearing.
07:26He must have been in every hearing,
07:28because Mr. Khan in this case,
07:30the Supreme Court has declared him as a traitor.
07:32In fact, I remember,
07:34when he himself,
07:36it was visible that,
07:38PTI or Bani Chairman PTI,
07:40can be the target of these new laws,
07:42so in the last hearing,
07:44or the second last hearing,
07:46Khawaja Harris,
07:48who was the lawyer of PTI,
07:50was asked again,
07:52he said that this is his position,
07:54that we have declared him a traitor,
07:56that our prayers are on him.
07:58It was visible that he himself
08:00will be the target of all these.
08:02Many people still have hope,
08:04that when he himself will speak,
08:06he will see the decision.
08:08Today, before you both,
08:10I want to ask another question to Mr. Sheikh,
08:12then I want to come to your contempt.
08:14Were you surprised that it was not shown,
08:16or did you know that it would not be shown?
08:18Give a quick answer.
08:20I was not surprised personally.
08:22I was a little surprised,
08:24because once the right of audience was given,
08:26the judges who wanted to be called,
08:28to be heard,
08:30they will not say that they should be stopped.
08:32But it is very surprising,
08:34that one side,
08:36without consultation,
08:38was banned.
08:40But the judge did not even agitate.
08:42Whatever the administration decides,
08:44whatever the government decides,
08:46the court should have its own decision.
08:48Mr. Minala's statement,
08:50a strong parliament,
08:52a free court and fearless leaders.
08:54In the same way, a free court,
08:56cannot be formed with compromises.
08:58This is right.
09:00One thing that goes to Mr. Qari's credit,
09:02that he also started the live streaming.
09:04He did.
09:06And many rules will be decided slowly,
09:08to give to the convict.
09:10Because it is also possible that you will be told,
09:12because the punishment is not given.
09:14Then write in the SOPs,
09:16that this is happening because of this.
09:18But there are also proceedings of contempt.
09:20Even today, there was a series of press conferences,
09:22where letters were written,
09:24that pressure is being put on us.
09:26That pressure is of those cases,
09:28which are the special cases of your party.
09:30Your party is being given a lot of relief.
09:32I have been hearing a lot of press conferences since yesterday.
09:34What is this?
09:36Relief is being given to Tariq-e-Insaaf.
09:38And now contempt has been issued.
09:40Contempt notices have been issued,
09:42before going to the Supreme Court.
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