" Mein Ne Zindagi Mein Kabhi Jhoot Nahi Bola, London Mein Kisi Se Mulaqaat Nahi Hui." Tahir-ul-Qadri
" Mein Ne Zindagi Mein Kabhi Jhoot Nahi Bola, London Mein Kisi Se Mulaqaat Nahi Hui." Tahir-ul-Qadri
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00:00 You mentioned the London Plan, a certain allegation was put on you. What will you say about this from your sessions with General Zaheer-ul-Islam and political leaders?
00:11 Nawaz Sharif put this allegation a few days ago, which I refuted in very clear words.
00:21 And yesterday or today, I have repeated the same thing again. I think either they have become ill with delusion,
00:34 or a person is constantly lying to them, or they are in pain and cannot be patient.
00:46 I refute this allegation again and categorically say that I have not met General Zaheer-ul-Islam,
00:56 or any of the generals of the Pakistan Army or ISI in London, Canada or any other foreign country.
01:10 Neither in 2004, nor before that, nor after that, till today.
01:16 Now, what is the London Plan? I cannot talk about my others.
01:21 Whether General Zaheer-ul-Islam meets someone else or not, I am not responsible for anyone else.
01:27 I have categorically refuted it to the extent of my own self, and I am doing it again.
01:33 And I want to tell Nawaz Sharif to correct himself. If someone lies to him, or makes him lie,
01:41 or if someone has put him in delusion, I have not met General Zaheer-ul-Islam or any other general in London or any other foreign country.
01:52 Not even in Pakistan?
01:54 Not even in Pakistan, absolutely, except for that night during the protest, which took place in front of all of you,
02:04 with General Raheel Sharif.
02:06 When we were present at the protest, when the Moral Town's death warrant was to be filed, and it was not being done,
02:13 and all this was being broadcast on your TV channels, General Raheel Sharif had met,
02:19 Imran Khan Sahib and I had met, and when I met General Raheel Sharif in Islamabad,
02:27 a Sikh was standing with him, and I did not know him.
02:32 He raised his hand, and greeted me in front of General Raheel Sharif, and took his name,
02:39 that I am Zaheer-ul-Islam. I saw his face for the first time in my life, and met him for the first time.
02:45 It was being broadcast in front of the whole world, in front of the TV channels, during the 2014 protests,
02:52 in which the issue of filing the death warrant for the Moral Town protest was being discussed.
02:58 Apart from that, I had never met him in my life before that.
03:03 I had not even seen his face, I did not even know him.
03:06 So I repeated the matter to correct the record, so that he can be reformed.
03:13 I am repeating it again and again, so that he can know that this is a lie.
03:17 So, Tahirul Qadri Sahib, did you meet any other establishment or army man in London?
03:23 Yes, I have never met any other establishment or army man in London.
03:30 I am answering your second question categorically.
03:33 Look, I have never lied in my life. I do not believe in lies.
03:38 If I have met, I have no objection to say that I have met.
03:42 I have never met any general or officer of the Pakistan establishment.
03:47 I have never met anyone, nor have I met anyone.
03:50 Yes, political leaders keep coming.
03:52 Which political leaders did you talk to in London?
03:55 Parvez Ilahi Sahib?
03:56 Yes, they keep coming.
03:57 They came at that time too.
03:59 What is his name?
04:03 Chaudhary Shuja Husain Sahib came, Chaudhary Parvez Ilahi Sahib came.
04:06 He met 12-14 leaders.
04:08 Imran Khan Sahib came, he met.
04:10 Jahangir Karim Sahib met.
04:12 But there was no general in any meeting.
04:15 I am saying this categorically.
04:17 Were you given any assurances that if you come and protest, the government's throne will be taken?
04:21 Neither any other general, nor any other officer.
04:23 Were you given any assurances that if you come to Pakistan and protest, the government's throne will be taken?
04:28 No, no, look, you have asked a good question.
04:31 Who gave you the assurance?
04:33 I am telling you again that I have never met any officer of the establishment of Pakistan.
04:40 Neither individually nor collectively.
04:43 There was no need to give assurance.
04:46 When I did not meet, these are political leaders,
04:49 discussions and discussions with each other, whatever it is.
04:51 And the whole world does it.
04:53 And what kind of discussion was it at that time, sir?
04:55 Did anyone make those leaders believe what they conveyed to you?
05:00 No, I have no knowledge of this.
05:03 They did not convey any assurance to me.
05:06 I am saying this.
05:08 Now, whether they met or not, what did they talk about?
05:12 Allah knows better.
05:14 This can only be asked from them.
05:16 They did not make me believe anything.
05:18 And they did not convey anything to me.
05:20 So you reached Pakistan without any assurance or assurance and sat for more than 60 days.
05:26 Because many reporters are talking today, on the record,
05:31 that when you used to meet and have discussions,
05:35 then your disappointment and disappointment was that I was given assurance.
05:40 It was told for days, then your phone calls were not being answered,
05:43 you were not in contact with a brigadier and General Zaheel-ul-Islam.
05:49 And when those contacts were not happening, then you were even more disappointed.
05:52 And then because financially…
05:54 Look, these are your political views, these are their own estimates,
05:59 these are their own assessments, these are their own analysis.
06:02 I do not agree with this.
06:04 I have told you as much as you have asked for the factual information.
06:08 We had our own lifelong struggle after the awakening of consciousness,
06:13 of systemic change,
06:15 during which a lot of workers were martyred and about 100 were injured.
06:20 We protested against that.
06:22 Then we protested against the failure of the FIR,
06:25 which led to the protest.
06:27 The rest are people's own estimates, their own analysis.
06:30 Whether it is right or wrong, I have no objection to it.
06:32 So why did you leave?
06:34 What?
06:36 Why did you leave? Why did you wrap up the protest?
06:38 Now, this is a very long question of yours.
06:41 There is no end to it.
06:42 There is no end to it.
06:43 Our FIR was cut.
06:45 After that, we saw that there is nothing further that can be delivered here.
06:50 and we will go and fight for ourselves.
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