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00:00:14 Can you, do you have this angle?

00:00:15 I think you could pull it off.

00:00:16 This is the best NBA preview finals preview of all time.

00:00:20 Just saying that right now, we're going to have her solo on next week.

00:00:22 Yeah, yeah.

00:00:23 There he is.

00:00:24 There's Deuce Griffin.

00:00:25 Deuce Griffin.

00:00:26 He's adorable.

00:00:27 He gets to go to every finals game, Deuce.

00:00:29 On today's part of my take, we have a very special guest, Mike Breen, legend of the game.

00:00:39 Awesome combo with him.

00:00:41 Trying to get him to do a triple bang at some point in the future.

00:00:45 And speaking of Mike Breen, the NBA finals are set.

00:00:48 We're going to talk about our first impressions, Mavs versus Celtics.

00:00:54 Also say goodbye to the Timberwolves and hell of a run, but fall short in five.

00:01:00 We got some hockey talk.

00:01:02 I have some, I have some baseball topics for you, PFT.

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00:01:07 I want your takes.

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00:03:28 Today is Friday, May 31st and we have an NBA finals, the Dallas Mavericks versus the Boston

00:03:37 Celtics.

00:03:39 Hank is wearing his Boston remembers shirt with lucky stomping on Kyrie.

00:03:44 It's a JFK revenge series.

00:03:46 It is.

00:03:47 And we're ready to go.

00:03:48 The NBA finals are set.

00:03:50 We had a moment.

00:03:51 So we obviously had a week with Memorial Day.

00:03:53 We had a show on Tuesday.

00:03:55 The Timberwolves won on Tuesday night and then tonight they got eliminated.

00:04:01 Credit to the Timberwolves for not getting swept.

00:04:03 Anthony Edwards says he's never been swept in his career.

00:04:06 He did also say I've only been in three playoff series or four playoff series.

00:04:10 So he was kind of talking like a 20 year old, 20 year vet in the NBA.

00:04:16 But never been swept.

00:04:17 Never been swept.

00:04:18 That's important.

00:04:19 It's important to keep a clean sheet on the sweeps.

00:04:20 Adam Silver, very happy that we at least got one more game.

00:04:24 Little closer.

00:04:25 It would have been weird if the series just ended on Tuesday night.

00:04:27 Then we had to wait a very long time for the NBA finals to start.

00:04:30 So still do.

00:04:31 We still do.

00:04:32 Still do.

00:04:33 It could have been worse.

00:04:34 They called him Scott Foster.

00:04:35 Everyone was like, oh, Scott Foster, the extender.

00:04:38 He tried to give that game to the Mavericks on Tuesday.

00:04:41 Tried his very best.

00:04:42 Yes.

00:04:43 His very damnedest.

00:04:44 But yeah, went five games.

00:04:45 Timberwolves fans, Minnesota fans, I don't know if you're listening to this show.

00:04:48 My guess is you probably are.

00:04:50 I think Timberwolves fans are probably, they're very happy with how this season went.

00:04:54 Obviously not happy with the series.

00:04:56 Yeah, I'd say they're not happy right now.

00:04:57 But getting to a Western Conference final, if you look at perspective in the Giannis

00:05:01 terms, it was a good season for you.

00:05:03 It was a good year.

00:05:05 They lost to a team that couldn't beat them.

00:05:07 Yeah, that's true.

00:05:08 And also, if you're a Timberwolves fan, God bless you because you have to root for Carl

00:05:15 Anthony Townsend.

00:05:16 He must be so infuriating to root for.

00:05:17 He threw in some stat padding tonight.

00:05:19 I'm just saying, he is probably the hardest player to fully delude yourself into getting

00:05:25 behind in the NFL.

00:05:26 Rudy Gobert's pretty fire.

00:05:27 But also, you have-

00:05:28 Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

00:05:29 They're on the same team.

00:05:30 I know.

00:05:31 But I feel like you can be like, Rudy, we don't expect anything from him on offense.

00:05:33 Which was a weird strategy when they were like, let's run the offense through Rudy in

00:05:37 the first quarter.

00:05:38 I think he had like six or seven shots.

00:05:39 They'll never see it coming.

00:05:40 Yeah.

00:05:41 But yeah, Carl Anthony Townsend.

00:05:42 To his credit, he played really, really well in game four.

00:05:45 He did.

00:05:46 He had a great game four.

00:05:47 Bounce back game.

00:05:48 He could not be as bad as he's been in the past.

00:05:50 And yeah, he had that blip.

00:05:51 That was his legacy game.

00:05:52 Yep.

00:05:53 It was game four.

00:05:54 And then it's just so infuriating to see a guy who's that big be so passive.

00:05:59 And also, cannot wipe a smile off his face.

00:06:04 Yeah.

00:06:05 I was saying this, I can't remember.

00:06:06 I didn't remember when I was saying this because it feels like all these weeks have just blend

00:06:10 together.

00:06:11 But when they show like going into break and they do the bumps and it's like Luca like

00:06:18 staring at someone Kyrie like crossover and yelling in the crowd and then they show Carl

00:06:25 Anthony Townsend.

00:06:26 It always looks like he's been practicing whatever he's doing for 20 minutes in the mirror right

00:06:30 before they came out.

00:06:31 Yeah.

00:06:32 This is my pumped up.

00:06:33 This is my three point Dougie.

00:06:35 He's kind of smiling and you're like, God damn it.

00:06:37 Yeah.

00:06:38 They were stat padding tonight.

00:06:39 Those are the timberwolves.

00:06:41 You lost the game the minute you went with those jerseys.

00:06:43 Terrible jerseys.

00:06:44 Terrible.

00:06:45 You got the good classic.

00:06:46 Well, it's two things.

00:06:47 Max, I saw your face.

00:06:49 After I looked at him a little more, Max can't speak.

00:06:53 So when I sat down next to him to watch the game, he's like, I was like, yeah, the jerseys.

00:06:58 Yeah.

00:06:59 Jerseys are terrible.

00:07:01 That's exactly how it happened.

00:07:02 He couldn't get it out, but I knew his brain so well that when we flipped on the game,

00:07:07 he just started making grunts.

00:07:08 I was like, Max down boy.

00:07:09 I know the jerseys are different.

00:07:11 Those are okay.

00:07:12 They're not back against the wall.

00:07:13 Jersey.

00:07:14 No, those are game two jerseys.

00:07:15 Yeah.

00:07:16 Bring those out.

00:07:17 Game.

00:07:18 Preferably a game two on the road where those uniforms really a game two of the season.

00:07:21 Yes.

00:07:22 In October.

00:07:23 That's a, that's a in season tournament jersey.

00:07:25 Yes.

00:07:26 That's what you should be wearing that for.

00:07:27 And then they made their half court logo bigger, which is stupid.

00:07:30 I like it when it's the only small logo in the league.

00:07:33 Yeah.

00:07:34 I like it.

00:07:35 I like it when the logo is so small and they're falling into the trap that everybody else

00:07:38 has been doing.

00:07:39 I think we've talked about it on this show.

00:07:41 The half court logos are getting bigger so that the announcers can be like another logo

00:07:45 three, another logo three.

00:07:47 Uh, Hank, you want to just be, you want to, I was saying before we should maybe get some

00:07:53 headphones for you for the Luca glazing so you can put them on so you don't have to hear

00:07:56 it.

00:07:57 It's going to be one of your last, last couple.

00:07:59 This game was over.

00:08:00 Get them in.

00:08:01 This game was over when Luca Donchic outscored the Timberwolves in the first quarter by himself.

00:08:07 He could not miss.

00:08:08 He was hitting shots and the net wasn't moving.

00:08:11 He hit a stat hole.

00:08:12 Our guy stat hole, uh, text me.

00:08:15 He said that he had 165 feet worth of shots in the first quarter.

00:08:19 That's so many feet.

00:08:21 Yeah.

00:08:22 So that's, it ties, uh, Steph Curry for most feet on shots made in first quarter playoff

00:08:27 game.

00:08:28 Huge.

00:08:29 I agree.

00:08:30 Curry did it versus Boston in 2020.

00:08:31 I mean, those are, that's incredible.

00:08:33 Those are the two better 65 feet of shots.

00:08:35 It's a lot of shots.

00:08:36 Hank has a lot of feet.

00:08:37 It's so many feet.

00:08:38 You know how many schools that you know how many feet the court is?

00:08:40 99 I think it's 94 right?

00:08:43 Yeah.

00:08:44 94 feet.

00:08:45 I know ball.

00:08:46 Uh, yeah, that's, that's like, that's a court and a half worth of feet.

00:08:51 It's pretty impressive.

00:08:52 That's a pretty impressive set.

00:08:53 Also are you okay with the glazing?

00:08:55 No.

00:08:56 Again, like you're not going to have many left.

00:08:58 I want you to get them in while you can.

00:09:00 The Tuesday, Tuesday night scheme.

00:09:02 I know the Mavs lost and it was, I do like put a little, what are you gonna say?

00:09:08 I'm just, I don't know how you're going to glaze Luca from, from Tuesday, but yeah, I

00:09:13 am.

00:09:14 Don't worry.

00:09:15 I'm gonna land the plane.

00:09:16 Um, and I, I made fun of the, the pro, that's a pro glazer.

00:09:18 That's a, what?

00:09:19 No, I don't know.

00:09:20 What?

00:09:21 Go ahead.

00:09:22 Go ahead.

00:09:23 You're not getting upset.

00:09:24 Go ahead.

00:09:25 Jay Glazer.

00:09:26 Yeah.

00:09:27 Jay Glazer.

00:09:28 Okay.

00:09:29 Uh, I do give the Timberwolves a little bit of credit for not giving up because they gave

00:09:32 up tonight, but they didn't get swept.

00:09:34 And I made fun of the Anthony Edwards quote, but I like, I like, I love Anthony Edwards

00:09:38 and I like how he's wired.

00:09:40 And I actually think in a weird way, he probably at halftime was in game five being like, they

00:09:45 still can't beat us down 30 or whatever.

00:09:48 Um, the Luca lob to Derek Jones was one of the coolest lobs I've ever seen.

00:09:53 He threw an alley oop when Derek Jones was still past the three point line and it was

00:09:59 like the most, his lobs are just so precise.

00:10:03 They lost the game, Hank.

00:10:05 Um, but you, did you, do you know what lob I'm talking about?

00:10:08 And he had that kick out drive pass.

00:10:11 Oh, the kick out drive pass.

00:10:13 That's going to go down as one of the best assists that will never show up.

00:10:16 Yeah.

00:10:17 Because it was one of the best passes I've ever seen.

00:10:19 Hit it off the back rim.

00:10:22 He threw a lob that Derek Jones was behind the three point line.

00:10:25 Uh, when he, when it released his hands or yeah, when Luca threw the ball and it was

00:10:30 just a perfect, perfect pass.

00:10:33 Luca's really good.

00:10:34 Max.

00:10:35 I mean, uh, Hank, I just said, Max, he has a good player.

00:10:37 They're a good team.

00:10:38 He did have really good play.

00:10:39 He did have a heat check of a lob tonight though.

00:10:41 He was feeling himself in the labs a little bit and he threw one that went, I think it

00:10:45 went over the backboard.

00:10:46 Yeah, it's a great lob.

00:10:48 It's a great lob.

00:10:49 Great.

00:10:50 All right.

00:10:51 So that was my glazing of Luca.

00:10:52 I'm really fucking good.

00:10:54 Most feet in lob.

00:10:55 We had 20 feet worth of lobs.

00:10:58 Hank's acting all cocky right now.

00:10:59 He was watching that game on the, I wanted to keep watching basketball.

00:11:05 I don't want to wait.

00:11:06 And I was like, this is pathetic.

00:11:07 What the T-Balls are doing.

00:11:09 It was, you're afraid of Luca though.

00:11:11 I'm not.

00:11:12 I knew we're playing the maps.

00:11:13 There was no doubt in my mind we were playing the maps.

00:11:14 Yeah.

00:11:15 But you saw what Luca did in the first quarter.

00:11:16 Back to fiction.

00:11:17 That was an embarrassing, disgusting performance in a elimination game from the Timberwolves.

00:11:22 Yeah, no, especially the second half when they're stat padding.

00:11:24 I agree.

00:11:25 But it was also, the game was over because Luca.

00:11:27 That's just unbiased.

00:11:28 Observer.

00:11:29 Luca outscored, but you agree that the game was over when Luca came out and said, I'm

00:11:32 going to beat the Timberwolves by myself in the first quarter.

00:11:35 Yeah.

00:11:36 I mean, the series was over when they went up 3-0.

00:11:37 Right.

00:11:38 But that was, when you go up 3-0 and then you lose game four and then you go back to

00:11:42 the other guy's gym and it's like, okay, if the T-Balls come out hot here, we could have

00:11:47 a interesting scenario.

00:11:49 Luca basically shut that all down by himself.

00:11:51 It was like, there's no, I'm giving you no hope.

00:11:54 I'm giving you no chance.

00:11:55 I'm going to hit 165 feet of shots.

00:11:59 That's a lot of feet, Hank.

00:12:01 Just say it's a lot of feet.

00:12:02 It's a lot of feet.

00:12:03 A lot of feet.

00:12:04 Who the fuck tracks feet?

00:12:05 Jerry.

00:12:06 Who?

00:12:07 But it's a lot of feet.

00:12:08 It's a lot of feet.

00:12:09 If there was, I will say that there.

00:12:12 I love that Hank's getting triggered by a foot.

00:12:15 You have the opposite of a foot fetish.

00:12:17 165 feet.

00:12:18 You're disgusted by feet.

00:12:19 It's just, you're mad about that.

00:12:21 The Celtics almost did it last year and obviously it's never happened in the NBA, but when it

00:12:25 does happen in the NBA, it will happen almost like it did last year.

00:12:28 And I thought potentially maybe this year where it's going to be the home team.

00:12:32 If the Timberwolves win tonight, they somehow win game six.

00:12:34 They have home game seven.

00:12:36 Hank's very selective in his opinion.

00:12:38 He's very selective in his opinions about feet because he does not like the feet stat,

00:12:44 but all he thinks about is Kyrie Irving's feet on Lucky's face.

00:12:48 You can't count one foot and then not count the other.

00:12:51 Do you not like feet?

00:12:52 Is that why it didn't work out with Tim?

00:12:53 I've never been a foot guy.

00:12:54 I don't really understand the appeal.

00:12:55 But 165 feet, that's a lot of feet.

00:12:58 It's a lot of feet.

00:12:59 Uh, Hank, you bring up a good point that the, the three Oh coming back.

00:13:03 Uh, it's very, very hard to do.

00:13:05 Never been done in the NBA.

00:13:06 The only solace that I think Minnesota fans should have tonight.

00:13:10 Well, one is that you have Anthony Edwards and I don't know what.

00:13:14 Carl Anthony towns, like PFT said, is maddening to root for.

00:13:18 I don't think there's a word to describe.

00:13:20 We need to figure out like we need you to might maybe invent a word like the Germans

00:13:24 would do to describe Carl Anthony towns and how frustrating it is to watch him if you're

00:13:28 a fan of his and to see how aloof he is in the biggest moments.

00:13:32 Well, I also, Carl Anthony towns is a self-proclaimed best, a big man shooter of all time.

00:13:38 I feel like you have to have post moves like really good post moves to be able to say that

00:13:43 to claim that, right?

00:13:45 You're just a tall shooter.

00:13:47 Otherwise he's just kind of like a chubby KD, right?

00:13:50 You're a tall shooter.

00:13:51 Yeah, that's it.

00:13:52 But you're not a big man.

00:13:53 No, there's a difference between being tall and being a big man.

00:13:57 Back someone down in the post.

00:13:58 Um, but the solace for the, for the timber rolls fans, because this was a very fun season

00:14:03 and it got a little crazy with the Anthony Edwards, uh, hype, which was not Anthony Edwards

00:14:08 fault, not timber rolls fans fault media.

00:14:12 I took some blame for it as well.

00:14:14 I fell in love with watching Anthony Edwards play basketball.

00:14:18 This actually in a weird way, you didn't have a classic Minnesota, uh, loss.

00:14:24 A classic Minnesota loss would have been winning game five and then like losing game six in

00:14:31 a buzzer beater or something.

00:14:33 So like not like, yeah, cause it wouldn't be classic Minnesota loss to get all the way

00:14:36 to game seven.

00:14:37 You can't get all the way there, but getting like a play away from being a game away.

00:14:42 I think if you get to game seven and you get blown out like you did tonight, that's a Minnesota

00:14:46 law.

00:14:47 Yeah.

00:14:48 But this was not a Minnesota law because it was like, you know, you had the moment like,

00:14:51 Oh, we won one game.

00:14:52 Who knows what's going to happen.

00:14:53 And then it was just over.

00:14:54 It's just the better team one.

00:14:55 Yeah.

00:14:56 It was just over.

00:14:57 Well, that's it.

00:14:58 If the air was still doesn't know if they can beat them.

00:14:59 That's it.

00:15:00 Didn't get swept.

00:15:01 Didn't get swept.

00:15:02 Kyrie also is playing insane basketball right now.

00:15:04 Kyrie is a great player.

00:15:06 Derek Lively is back, which is very important.

00:15:09 I think he's their leader in plus minus.

00:15:11 He's very important to their team.

00:15:14 Chris stops back.

00:15:15 He posted today.

00:15:16 I said, see you in the finals.

00:15:18 All right.

00:15:19 I love that.

00:15:20 All right.

00:15:21 So let's talk about the finals.

00:15:22 Let's talk about it.

00:15:23 Let's talk about the final.

00:15:24 Can I glaze lucky real quick?

00:15:25 Yeah.

00:15:26 Yes.

00:15:27 Let me glaze lucky.

00:15:28 Please.

00:15:29 All right.

00:15:30 Kyrie Irving has lost his last 10 games against lucky and the sage.

00:15:31 Remember he saved, he saved it.

00:15:33 Yeah.

00:15:34 But that Sage didn't take Sage didn't take.

00:15:35 Do you think you'll resage?

00:15:36 I think he should resage.

00:15:37 Oh man.

00:15:38 You think he's going to resage?

00:15:40 What will you do if he resages?

00:15:42 I mean, staging is whatever spiritual.

00:15:44 I don't really have a problem with that.

00:15:46 But what would you do if he resages?

00:15:47 Because that might be the Sage that takes.

00:15:49 No, I mean, that's it.

00:15:52 I think you believe in that.

00:15:54 That's all for you.

00:15:55 Like that.

00:15:56 This could be a mistake.

00:15:57 The only way to defeat Sage is with crystals.

00:15:59 Yep.

00:16:00 You got to get the jerk off crystals.

00:16:01 You got to get some.

00:16:02 We could resage right back.

00:16:03 Oh yeah.

00:16:04 How about a few stages for the gambling cave?

00:16:07 A few stages.

00:16:08 I will.

00:16:09 Hank, are you going to be on the wood at any point in this series?

00:16:13 I don't think so.

00:16:15 Well, I don't think Dave is inviting me, but even going to the game to schedule does not

00:16:19 line up great for anything.

00:16:22 So you couldn't even Sage if you wanted to.

00:16:25 We'll see.

00:16:26 I mean, we'll see.

00:16:27 I got to.

00:16:28 The schedule sucks for me being able to go to a game, which I'm sure everyone was wondering.

00:16:35 The number one.

00:16:36 Yeah, I'm sure everyone was curious how that was going to factor in.

00:16:39 And that's the answer.

00:16:41 What about in a week?

00:16:43 It's not good for that either until like game six.

00:16:46 With Miss Gomez.

00:16:47 And game three, I guess Dave said it.

00:16:51 We're going to the Brady.

00:16:53 We got invited by the Patriots to Brady's retirement ceremony.

00:16:56 It's fucking in the middle of game four.

00:17:00 What or game three?

00:17:01 Why would they do that?

00:17:03 Wednesday, June 12th is game three.

00:17:05 Friday, the 14th.

00:17:06 Yeah.

00:17:07 So why would they do that?

00:17:08 Because they try to do 612 for Brady, I guess, and weren't thinking about the schedule.

00:17:11 In the middle of the day.

00:17:12 That's what I thought it was until today.

00:17:14 It's at night.

00:17:15 According to.

00:17:16 Yeah, I was listening to Kirk and Dave on the name show.

00:17:18 Kirk was like, it's at night.

00:17:20 It's supposed to end at 930.

00:17:21 I guess we'll be like, is it in?

00:17:23 It's at Foxboro.

00:17:24 So you're going to be with the lighthouse.

00:17:26 Yeah.

00:17:27 Oh, that's nice.

00:17:28 Yeah, that's nice.

00:17:29 Good consolation prize.

00:17:30 Yeah, that's huge.

00:17:31 Tom Brady, bad sports town.

00:17:32 Brady's up on the Jumbotron.

00:17:33 You should move it.

00:17:34 Yeah, I don't know what they're.

00:17:36 I'm curious what they're going to do.

00:17:37 I thought it was just like a day.

00:17:39 So you'll be in a suite.

00:17:41 I don't know if you're in a suite, then you're fine.

00:17:42 I don't know what Mr. Crafts got in store for us.

00:17:45 You said a lot of bad things about the dynasty.

00:17:47 Yeah, I'd be ashamed if Mr. Craft got a hold of that before you were his personal guest.

00:17:54 Were you saying about him getting jerked off?

00:17:56 I had nothing.

00:17:58 Do you think you think Joe Missoula's Jiu Jitsu instructor is just.

00:18:03 I said it, not you.

00:18:04 Hank.

00:18:05 Hank loves Mr. Craft.

00:18:06 What do you think?

00:18:07 Well, I'm not going to say it again.

00:18:08 All right.

00:18:09 I'll say it again.

00:18:12 You think Joe Missoula and Giselle had the same Jiu Jitsu person?

00:18:15 Oh, it's possible.

00:18:18 It is possible.

00:18:19 What are you going?

00:18:21 What is it?

00:18:22 612.

00:18:23 What is it?

00:18:24 It is Tom Brady's retirement ceremony.

00:18:28 Who invited you?

00:18:29 Induction into the Hall of Fame.

00:18:30 Well, not me personally.

00:18:33 He should have invited you personally.

00:18:34 The Brady four were invited.

00:18:35 Yeah, you went to prison for him.

00:18:37 Let's talk about the finals.

00:18:40 Did they drop those charges, by the way?

00:18:44 In Florida?

00:18:45 Yeah.

00:18:46 No, no.

00:18:47 For no, that one Hank when Hank got arrested.

00:18:48 Oh, oh yeah.

00:18:49 Drop those.

00:18:50 Yeah.

00:18:51 Six months.

00:18:52 Six months.

00:18:53 Six months.

00:18:54 That's nice.

00:18:55 Hank, how are you feeling?

00:18:56 I'll say this right now.

00:18:59 I have to look into this series some more.

00:19:01 I have to crunch.

00:19:02 You've been saying that for a month.

00:19:03 Well, the series hasn't started.

00:19:05 True.

00:19:06 I'm going to look into some series, but I'll give you my gut knee jerk prediction, which

00:19:11 I will not be held to because I'm going to give my final prediction when we have her

00:19:14 still on next week.

00:19:16 My gut knee jerk is Celtics and seven.

00:19:18 I'm thinking Celtics and six.

00:19:20 That's my gut knee jerk.

00:19:21 I think it's going to be a role player series.

00:19:25 I think it's going to come down to our demons will start, obviously stop Kyrie and Luke

00:19:30 as much as they can.

00:19:31 They're going to make them pass the ball.

00:19:33 Their guys have been hitting shots all playoffs, but it's going to be the same for us.

00:19:37 It's going to be.

00:19:38 I also think this weirdly.

00:19:40 We have a better.

00:19:41 We have a better.

00:19:42 The way we have better role play.

00:19:44 The way Luke has been playing, the way Kyrie's been playing.

00:19:46 I think this is a weirdly like Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown, like they are going to step

00:19:51 up to the challenge because this is the ultimate challenge of these two guys and Lucas, especially

00:19:57 being anointed the number one guy.

00:20:00 They know Kyrie.

00:20:01 They have Jalen Brown has played Kyrie.

00:20:04 He knows he knows his game.

00:20:05 He knows what he's got to do.

00:20:06 They match up in practice for years.

00:20:09 Wouldn't could you say the same though?

00:20:11 Oh, he didn't think about that.

00:20:13 Yeah, because Jalen doesn't.

00:20:15 Like sometimes it takes a while for people to realize you can't dribble left.

00:20:19 Yeah, but it's Jalen neutralizing Kyrie is better for the Celtics than Kyrie neutralizing

00:20:25 jail.

00:20:26 That's true.

00:20:27 Celtics have Celtics like that's if that's if they neutralize each other, then the Celtics

00:20:31 come out on top.

00:20:32 Yeah, I think the Celtics have a better like depth and and Drew Holliday is going to be

00:20:37 important in this series.

00:20:38 Drew Holliday and Porzingis.

00:20:39 That's the biggest difference.

00:20:41 That's what makes me feel much better about this series, even though I felt pretty good

00:20:44 against the Warriors.

00:20:45 But Drew Holliday and Porzingis just make, you know, are going to be the reason we win

00:20:50 the.

00:20:51 What's your knee jerk gut react?

00:20:52 My gut reaction is Celtics and five love.

00:20:55 Oh, love it.

00:20:56 I think so.

00:20:57 I'm a bigger Celtics fan than Hank is, I guess.

00:20:58 Yeah, he said because like I was thinking about our role players and I actually think

00:21:01 that there I would say that Jalen over cancels out Kyrie.

00:21:06 Max just put up a stand.

00:21:07 I disagree.

00:21:08 What do you disagree with Max?

00:21:10 What do you think?

00:21:11 I think that this is going to be a very close series.

00:21:13 It's going to come down to very tight games at the end.

00:21:17 And one team has two guys that have proven to be excellent closers against very good

00:21:23 teams in this playoffs.

00:21:25 And the Celtics have looked a little iffy.

00:21:27 I mean, that doesn't sound like Max.

00:21:29 It came back.

00:21:30 We were down in the fourth quarter and three games in the Eastern Conference finals.

00:21:33 I get them all against shit pacers.

00:21:35 They made it to the Eastern Conference finals, Max.

00:21:39 Yeah, playing against four teams who didn't have their best player.

00:21:44 You know what Celtics in four.

00:21:46 I mean, listen, the Mavericks, like you can't debate like did the Celtics.

00:21:52 You said that they did better closer to the Celtics close those games or not.

00:21:55 Fact or fiction.

00:21:56 One of the pacer just gave them the game.

00:21:58 They literally just gave them the game.

00:21:59 So it wasn't so like if a closer comes in and makes three outs.

00:22:02 But it's you can't watch those games and you watch the Mavericks and you see what Kyrie

00:22:07 and Luca did and hit incredible shots against like all odds to win those games.

00:22:12 What about when the Celtics were down three with and didn't have the ball with eight seconds

00:22:16 left and won the fucking game.

00:22:18 The pacer talk about it.

00:22:19 Got it.

00:22:20 Got it.

00:22:21 Nothing.

00:22:22 Nothing to do with Jalen Brown.

00:22:24 Nothing to do with the Celtics.

00:22:25 Just the pacer threw them the ball.

00:22:28 The pacers lost that game.

00:22:29 But if Jalen Brown misses the shot, you had to make the shot.

00:22:32 Correct.

00:22:33 That's a good that's a good shot.

00:22:34 I think the harder you work, the luckier you get.

00:22:36 How about that?

00:22:37 And one team has lucky on their side.

00:22:39 Yeah.

00:22:40 That's the fucking Boston Celtics.

00:22:42 To me, this is this is lucky legacy.

00:22:44 It's a lucky legacy series.

00:22:46 I said Tuesday, though, you can't.

00:22:49 You can't ding the Celtics for who they play when they've been.

00:22:53 They've lost two games.

00:22:55 They're the best team in the NBA.

00:22:56 What about the regular season, Max?

00:22:57 Does that matter?

00:22:58 Did they just play tomato cans then to you?

00:23:00 I mean, I've heard you say that you don't care about it.

00:23:02 But with that said, Hank, you have to say like when someone says who's been more tested

00:23:05 in these playoffs, the Mavericks have been more tested.

00:23:07 Sure.

00:23:08 So it's it's a fascinating series because it basically is like if you if you take who

00:23:13 the Celtics have played and you're like, will they be up for the Mavericks test?

00:23:17 There's a chance like, oh, shit, they're nowhere near the Mavericks.

00:23:20 I don't think that's what's going to happen.

00:23:22 But it's like the stakes for your happiness are so wild right now.

00:23:28 Yeah, because you can either win a championship or you could get absolutely clowned on the

00:23:33 Internet.

00:23:34 And that's something you'll never understand.

00:23:36 Like you just have to go all in.

00:23:37 I'm not I'm not going to be scared.

00:23:38 I'm not going to be worried about it.

00:23:39 I disagree with that.

00:23:40 Max, you know, every time he goes every time.

00:23:45 I will disagree with that.

00:23:46 He goes in all this.

00:23:47 He goes to all in.

00:23:48 Like, he needs to step back.

00:23:51 Like, bro, take a step back.

00:23:54 And he was look, he was he looked ridiculous.

00:23:57 I'm looking at game six right now.

00:23:59 Game six NBA finals, if necessary.

00:24:01 Thursday, June 20th in Dallas, Texas.

00:24:05 Hank, what do you think?

00:24:08 That could be a closeout game.

00:24:09 Yeah, well, that's they're all show recording days like that's where it's like, I don't

00:24:13 want to, you know, you don't want to ask for a vacation.

00:24:15 I appreciate that.

00:24:16 No, I'm not talking about vacation.

00:24:17 I don't say anything about vacation.

00:24:18 Where's game set?

00:24:19 When's game seven?

00:24:20 I don't have that in front of me right now, but I do know that game six, game seven, game

00:24:24 five is Monday.

00:24:25 Sunday, the 23rd.

00:24:26 Sunday, the tickets are fucking insane.

00:24:28 We'll be at the Beer Olympics.

00:24:30 You hell yes.

00:24:31 I'm so pumped.

00:24:32 You got one.

00:24:33 You could go to Dallas and do the show.

00:24:34 Oh, you're oh, that one.

00:24:36 You were going to go to game seven.

00:24:37 Well, I mean, beer.

00:24:38 No, I'm talking about game six.

00:24:40 Yeah.

00:24:41 Okay.

00:24:42 Down.

00:24:43 Under certain circumstances.

00:24:46 There's a certain person that's not going to like hearing this.

00:24:49 Well, I have a lot of confidence in your trivia team.

00:24:54 Oh my God.

00:24:57 Oh, that's that would be so fucked.

00:25:07 You guys are about to go on a magical run.

00:25:09 Yeah.

00:25:10 Yeah.

00:25:11 Game seven.

00:25:12 Yeah.

00:25:13 We're also not so Vegas.

00:25:15 You won't go to Vegas with us for Beer Olympics.

00:25:18 I'll come Monday.

00:25:19 You're backing out.

00:25:20 It sounds like we need you for the show.

00:25:23 You just said I could go to Dallas, but I can't go to Boston.

00:25:25 I think there's more content to be had in Dallas.

00:25:28 That's true.

00:25:29 Also, you could go.

00:25:30 That would be hilarious if you won the NBA finals while we were in Vegas and you could

00:25:35 just do like a one man like party.

00:25:38 Go to Hawkins on.

00:25:39 I'm like, I'm probably fly out.

00:25:42 That actually.

00:25:43 Yeah.

00:25:44 Ooh, they definitely would.

00:25:45 They'd probably be.

00:25:46 We're not getting ahead of ourselves.

00:25:47 We're not.

00:25:48 We're focused on game one.

00:25:49 We're focused on game one.

00:25:50 I think the subject of my directly to Vegas that night.

00:25:54 They might.

00:25:55 Maybe they do like they usually go after the parade.

00:25:57 You have to stay in Vegas.

00:25:59 You can stay in Vegas.

00:26:00 Are we getting ahead of ourselves?

00:26:02 No, I don't think so.

00:26:03 I think this is appropriate.

00:26:04 It's cocky.

00:26:05 I don't give a fuck.

00:26:06 Yeah.

00:26:07 If the Celtics, what you just said, the happiness thing is true of the Celtics lose this championship

00:26:11 like it's going to be embarrassing.

00:26:13 Just retire from the Internet for the summer.

00:26:15 Probably until the next basketball season.

00:26:17 Wait, so you'll just go silent when your team loses.

00:26:20 Oh, gotcha.

00:26:22 They're talking about the podcast, Max, which is my job.

00:26:25 Not just silent.

00:26:26 He's also talking about he's going deaf to.

00:26:29 He's not going to hear or say blind.

00:26:31 You can't.

00:26:32 You can't.

00:26:33 They're talking about actually speaking words.

00:26:35 You're talking about social media, which is not part of my job.

00:26:38 Yes, it is.

00:26:39 Not my personal.

00:26:40 Yes, it is.

00:26:41 100% is it 100% screaming back here.

00:26:46 They track that.

00:26:47 Yeah, they track that.

00:26:49 When you ask us to retweet the documentary, I didn't ask that.

00:26:54 I will if you don't.

00:26:55 I'm just so excited.

00:26:56 Okay, so I'm excited to see Hank with so much on the line.

00:27:01 That's going to be a really, it really is because if the Celtics had been tested along

00:27:05 the way in the Eastern Conference finals, again, not their fault and you get to the

00:27:09 finals like, oh man, they lost this.

00:27:13 Everyone there are so many people who are entrenched with like the Celtics are not good

00:27:17 and the Mavs are way better and like, so if that ends up being the case, you just have

00:27:22 to just sit there and be like, oh, well I'm embarrassed.

00:27:24 I'm pretty sure.

00:27:25 I mean, you tell me you guys are unbiased more than me, but it feels like the general

00:27:30 public, it's like 80, 20 maps or just not Celtics.

00:27:34 Yeah, because the Mavericks, I don't know.

00:27:36 No one wants the Celtics to win.

00:27:38 What do you think?

00:27:39 No, the first line will get whose line is it anyway?

00:27:41 I think Celtics minus three and a half is my like five.

00:27:44 See, I think there, I think, I think once we get to it, what is it?

00:27:47 Six.

00:27:48 See, I, I, I think the Celtics as weird as the Eastern conference playoffs have looked

00:27:54 because of all the injuries and all the teams going down, like Celtics are still a fucking

00:27:59 awesome team.

00:28:01 They, this is a very even series.

00:28:03 That's why I have it Celtics and seven with the Mavericks.

00:28:06 It's like Luca is so fucking good.

00:28:08 You can't deny how good he is.

00:28:10 He's just at the top of his game at the top of the league and he's also a dick.

00:28:15 So a lot of people, they appreciate him for how good he is, but they're also like, I wish

00:28:19 he didn't scream at everybody all the time.

00:28:21 Although it was awesome when he screamed at that fan tonight saying, yeah, who's crying

00:28:25 now motherfucker.

00:28:26 Yeah, it was great.

00:28:27 It was great, but it's great, but it's not like they're America's sweetheart.

00:28:32 No, but if you pulled the general public, who do you think they would choose?

00:28:36 I don't, I don't.

00:28:37 Pretty close.

00:28:38 Yeah, I don't think, I don't think you're right on that.

00:28:39 Oh yeah.

00:28:40 I mean, I'm biased.

00:28:41 I mean, no, but I'm saying as a fan, like a rooting interest, like a fan, just a rooting

00:28:46 interest.

00:28:47 Oh yeah.

00:28:48 And I'm not talking about like maybe they're going to win, but like they want to win.

00:28:50 I think it's probably close.

00:28:51 You were two and a half points off on that line.

00:28:53 Yeah, I have too much respect.

00:28:55 I've been listening to fucking these donuts over here.

00:28:58 I've been glazing.

00:28:59 One straight glazing.

00:29:00 Luca should be allowed.

00:29:01 No, I know, but I've been, the glazing has, has infiltrated, got in my hair and like it's

00:29:06 gotten my ear and it's made me think that the baths are maybe are better than they are.

00:29:11 You got Luca come in your ear.

00:29:13 Get you towel.

00:29:15 I also, it would be funny if the, if the Celtics win this, we said this a couple, maybe last

00:29:20 week, but the Lakers would have lost to the maximum amount of teams, which would be very

00:29:25 funny because they, all Lakers fans were like, the nuggets were, were the only team that

00:29:30 could beat us as a bad matchup.

00:29:32 Lost the nuggets, nuggets lost the wolves, wolves lost the Mavs, Mavs lose the Celtics.

00:29:36 It's just a domino.

00:29:37 They had so many teams better.

00:29:39 I have a very serious question about this.

00:29:41 If the Celtics win.

00:29:42 Yeah.

00:29:43 Does Vegas for sure.

00:29:45 If the Celtics win, does Blake Griffin get a ring?

00:29:48 No, I would say no.

00:29:50 You don't think so.

00:29:51 I have a very serious answer.

00:29:52 Why?

00:29:53 Because everybody wanted him on the team this year.

00:29:55 Right.

00:29:56 I will.

00:29:57 I would love for him to get a ring, but I don't think Blake would take it.

00:29:59 I think they should give him one.

00:30:00 I don't think that would be a pity ring.

00:30:02 Yeah, they should give him one.

00:30:04 Was he in preseason camp?

00:30:05 No, he should go to a game.

00:30:06 Yeah.

00:30:07 You should get him to a game.

00:30:13 If you can get Blake to a game and he allows you to sit on his lap during the game, you

00:30:18 can go.

00:30:19 All the games.

00:30:20 Okay.

00:30:21 Okay.

00:30:22 But you have to wear a Blake Griffin jersey and you have to have a pacifier and have the

00:30:26 announcers think that you're his son.

00:30:28 You have to be like Deuce Griffin.

00:30:30 Is that Jason Tatum's son's name?

00:30:32 Yeah.

00:30:33 Yeah.

00:30:34 Deuce Griffin.

00:30:35 Deuce Griffin.

00:30:36 Yeah.

00:30:37 High five and players get like headbands signed.

00:30:39 Yeah.

00:30:40 You get on the court before the game and shoot around running around.

00:30:43 You got to put, you got to put little, you got to put sneakers on your knees and walk

00:30:47 around on your knees the whole time and be like sprinting, but never dribbling the ball

00:30:51 on the court.

00:30:52 Do it right now.

00:30:53 Let me see you.

00:30:54 Good.

00:30:55 Take off your shoes and put, put, put your knees into your shoes.

00:30:58 Can you, do you have this angle?

00:30:59 I think you could pull it off.

00:31:00 This is the best NBA preview finals preview of all time.

00:31:04 Just saying that right now.

00:31:05 We're going to have her solo on next week.

00:31:07 Yeah.

00:31:08 Yeah.

00:31:09 There he is.

00:31:10 There's Deuce Griffin.

00:31:11 Deuce Griffin.

00:31:12 He's adorable.

00:31:13 He gets to go to every finals game, Deuce.

00:31:16 I just know that I like to ride with our guys on this show.

00:31:20 Blake is rooting for the Celtics.

00:31:22 He is a Celtic right now in spirit and we've got, we got white, we've got Pritchard and

00:31:31 I like Joe Mazzola a lot.

00:31:32 Joe Mazzola.

00:31:33 I'm basing this all off, although Jason Kidd has been on the show.

00:31:37 That's very true.

00:31:38 Yeah.

00:31:39 Uh, I'm basing this just all off of, there's no heart or like anything.

00:31:44 It's just brain.

00:31:45 I think the Celtics are the better team in a seven game series.

00:31:48 I just do.

00:31:49 Same.

00:31:50 Yeah.

00:31:51 All right.

00:31:52 Well, we'll find out.

00:31:53 I'm going to crunch more data though.

00:31:54 So that's again, and don't, that's my knee jerk.

00:31:55 It could even go, it goes Celtics in six.

00:31:58 I go Celtics in five.

00:32:01 I go Mavs in seven.

00:32:02 I gotta decide.

00:32:05 I'm not excited.

00:32:06 I'm excited.

00:32:07 I'm excited.

00:32:08 I'm not gonna say I'm nervous.

00:32:09 One strategy.

00:32:10 I actually, the one only betting strategy I think I have for this is I think I'm just

00:32:12 going to bet whoever loses game one because I do think it's going to go seven.

00:32:17 Yeah.

00:32:18 No matter who loses game one, I'm just going to bet that they're going to trade games back

00:32:22 and there are enough really good players on both sides where it's like, you can't count

00:32:25 either team out.

00:32:27 I'm just going on vibes right now.

00:32:28 I'm going with my heart, not my, not my head.

00:32:30 Yeah.

00:32:31 And also Joe Mozilla said that the Celtics are weaponizing time.

00:32:35 That's how they're spending this, this off week.

00:32:37 Football guy.

00:32:38 Weaponizing time.

00:32:39 You're on some DARPA shit right now.

00:32:40 It is crazy.

00:32:41 Dragon Ball Z.

00:32:42 What is that?

00:32:43 I was trying to think of what it meant to weapon.

00:32:44 I think it just means like practicing.

00:32:45 Vrabel did it to Belichick.

00:32:46 He did.

00:32:47 Yeah.

00:32:48 He stole time from him.

00:32:50 Stole time.

00:32:51 This is, yeah.

00:32:52 What's that, uh, what's that confusing move movie that Christopher Nolan made?

00:32:57 Tenet.

00:32:58 Interstellar.

00:32:59 Tenet.

00:33:00 Interstellar.

00:33:01 No.

00:33:02 It was, no.

00:33:03 It's Tenet.

00:33:04 The most, no.

00:33:05 Before that.

00:33:06 Tenet.

00:33:07 Nope.

00:33:08 Tenet was the weird one.

00:33:09 There was another one.

00:33:10 Tenet.

00:33:11 Not Interstellar.

00:33:12 Memento?

00:33:13 Nope.

00:33:14 That is also time.

00:33:15 Kind of.

00:33:16 Well, the guy had.

00:33:17 Tenet.

00:33:18 Interstellar.

00:33:19 Inception.

00:33:20 Inception.

00:33:21 Oh, that's dreams.

00:33:22 He's weaponizing dreams.

00:33:23 But Memento as well.

00:33:24 Mozilla definitely weaponizes dreams.

00:33:25 Tenet is weaponizing time.

00:33:26 I never saw it, so I can't speak to it.

00:33:28 Again, this is great NBA preview.

00:33:30 Which Christopher Nolan movie is most like the Boston Celtics?

00:33:34 Okay, all right.

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00:36:08 Okay, should we talk some other sports?

00:36:11 Let's talk football.

00:36:12 Yeah.

00:36:14 Hard knocks.

00:36:15 Yeah.

00:36:16 Chicago Bears.

00:36:17 Yeah.

00:36:18 Windy City.

00:36:19 Yeah.

00:36:20 Caleb Williams.

00:36:21 Yeah.

00:36:22 Matt Dweeber.

00:36:23 Yes.

00:36:24 Lakeshore Drive.

00:36:25 Excited for that.

00:36:26 Yeah, the Lakeshore Drive in the opening montage is going to be great.

00:36:29 The shot of Lake Michigan.

00:36:30 Yep.

00:36:31 Sears Tower pan outs.

00:36:32 First time it's ever had it in the Bears franchise.

00:36:37 We all kind of assume this is going to be the case because hard knocks has these rules

00:36:40 where if you are a playoff team, you can't do it, which is like all the interesting teams.

00:36:46 I think it was originally if you're a playoff team, you can choose to not do it.

00:36:50 Right.

00:36:51 If they ask you, but then no team wants to do it.

00:36:53 If you have a new head coach, you can't do it.

00:36:55 So I think that the decision was basically like the Giants, the Saints, and the Bears.

00:37:01 I have a theory.

00:37:02 Do you think that the Bears didn't fire Matt Iberflues because they wanted hard knocks?

00:37:07 No.

00:37:08 You don't think so?

00:37:09 No, I do not.

00:37:10 I don't think any team wants hard knocks.

00:37:12 Maybe the Bears.

00:37:14 Listen, I'm excited to watch the hard knocks Bears.

00:37:19 Trying to get the new stadium.

00:37:21 Yeah.

00:37:22 By the way, I think the lawmakers in Illinois have gone on vacation for the rest of the

00:37:26 summer.

00:37:27 Shout out Hank.

00:37:28 So the stadium's like, they're like, oh, we'll figure it out later.

00:37:31 The stadium's never getting built.

00:37:33 There's a small, I'm very excited for hard knocks for the Bears.

00:37:36 I think it's gonna be awesome.

00:37:37 There's a small part of me that's worried that hard knocks might taint all the success

00:37:43 the Bears have had these last few years.

00:37:46 Yeah.

00:37:47 Like this could go south.

00:37:48 Yeah.

00:37:49 People are gonna get pumped for these Bears though.

00:37:51 Oh yeah.

00:37:52 It is.

00:37:53 I mean, I'm already, there's nothing hard knocks can do that I won't already be thinking

00:37:56 in my head.

00:37:57 I can't wait for the fashion episode with Caleb Williams.

00:38:00 They're definitely gonna go out to like some designer stores, follow him around for a day.

00:38:04 Him and Roma Dunze being best friends already.

00:38:06 Have him try some stuff on for the cameras.

00:38:08 Yeah, do a little catwalk.

00:38:09 Yep.

00:38:10 That's gonna be good.

00:38:11 I mean, Cole's getting to work at like four in the morning, which I respect.

00:38:14 Hardworking guy.

00:38:15 Genius.

00:38:16 Yeah, I'm excited.

00:38:17 You should be.

00:38:18 I'm very excited.

00:38:19 I should be, but you should also be very wary of the fact that hard knocks makes us amped

00:38:24 up for any team.

00:38:25 Oh no, PFT.

00:38:26 I'm so scared that I might be like way over hyping the Bears going into September and

00:38:32 then they don't do well.

00:38:33 When has that ever happened?

00:38:34 Not you.

00:38:35 Not you.

00:38:36 Everybody else having the expectation.

00:38:37 They already are.

00:38:38 They're already like over eight and a half win total.

00:38:40 In seasons past.

00:38:41 Damn.

00:38:42 With the Bears, you've been pumped up for the Bears, but everybody else has been like,

00:38:45 "Uh, maybe we'll pump the brakes a little bit."

00:38:48 This time, everyone's gonna be like, "Bears, Bears, Bears."

00:38:51 You do realize there's literally nothing that can happen in this course of hard knocks and

00:38:56 then the season that hasn't already happened to me.

00:38:59 Like, what's the worst thing that could happen?

00:39:01 I become a laughingstock of the internet?

00:39:04 Oh, welcome to every football season.

00:39:07 Yeah, I'm just saying.

00:39:08 Hard knocks.

00:39:09 Yeah, that's why I'm at the point where it's like, "I have nothing to lose.

00:39:13 The only thing I could lose is just going back to where I've been."

00:39:17 It does give your enemies more ammunition in terms of memes.

00:39:21 They have all of it.

00:39:22 In terms of things to bring up.

00:39:23 They have all the stats.

00:39:24 Things don't go wrong.

00:39:25 PFT, they have the stats.

00:39:26 I know.

00:39:27 They have a 3,000 yard passer.

00:39:28 Listen, I'm with you.

00:39:29 I think the Bears are gonna be good.

00:39:31 I'm excited for hard knocks.

00:39:32 They're a fun team.

00:39:33 Their offense seems like they're incredible.

00:39:35 Their defense seems like they're on definitely the right track on their way to being an elite defense.

00:39:41 So, I'm high on the Bears, but I also don't want to see you get crushed.

00:39:45 That's a lie.

00:39:47 That's a fucking lie.

00:39:49 One, everyone in this room wants to see me get crushed.

00:39:52 Everyone who's watching this wants to see me get crushed.

00:39:54 That's a lie.

00:39:55 Two, two.

00:39:56 I root way harder against everybody else's teams.

00:39:58 You're the team that I root the most for out of all the teams that I want to see lose.

00:40:02 I think that's right.

00:40:03 I reciprocate that.

00:40:04 I reciprocate that.

00:40:05 The two, there's nothing.

00:40:09 I mean, what's gonna happen?

00:40:11 People are like, "Oh, I'm gonna get crushed?"

00:40:14 I've been flattened so many times.

00:40:16 I'm in those compressor videos.

00:40:18 Which rock, by the way.

00:40:20 They are very satisfying.

00:40:21 Where they like squash a candle.

00:40:23 Yeah, we gotta get on some oddly satisfying stuff on this show.

00:40:26 Yeah.

00:40:27 On the socials.

00:40:28 Yeah, I watched one where they-

00:40:29 It's in my algorithm.

00:40:30 I'll start sending over.

00:40:31 It's in my algorithm's just tits and just tits.

00:40:35 I was thinking what else it is, but it's not even food.

00:40:38 No, it's not even food.

00:40:39 Any dogs?

00:40:40 I think I've just basically curated just tits.

00:40:42 They shave soap bars.

00:40:46 You ever watch that one?

00:40:47 Yeah.

00:40:48 That one rocks.

00:40:49 About cleaning rugs.

00:40:50 Yeah, I like that.

00:40:51 That's cleaning rugs.

00:40:52 Biggest waste of water I've ever seen.

00:40:53 Have you watched the-

00:40:54 I watch them all.

00:40:55 Have you watched the lawnmower guy who just shows up for random people's houses?

00:40:58 Yeah.

00:40:59 He is the best.

00:41:00 The guy on clogging drains.

00:41:02 Oh, the drains, dude.

00:41:04 I have two drains in my back patio, and I won't clean up the back patio just because every

00:41:13 time it rains, it gets clogged and I can just scoop it, and I'll put it right next to the

00:41:18 drain just so I can watch it.

00:41:20 Yeah, the leaves.

00:41:21 Yeah.

00:41:22 The leaves and all the gunk in there.

00:41:23 Yeah.

00:41:24 Yeah, the lawnmowing videos are very satisfying.

00:41:25 Are you talking about the dude that just shows up to people's houses that don't have lawnmowers

00:41:28 and does it for them?

00:41:29 That guy rocks.

00:41:30 Or it's like a person has passed away and so they'll go to the neighbor and be like,

00:41:34 "Hey, can I clean this up?"

00:41:35 Yeah.

00:41:36 This is a Hard Knocks preview.

00:41:37 We're on some good tangents right now.

00:41:39 We're having a great show.

00:41:40 There's definitely going to be a grass cutting scene at the beginning of Hard Knocks.

00:41:44 The smell, the sprinkler.

00:41:46 So many drone shots of the lake and the river.

00:41:48 Yeah.

00:41:49 Listen, I'm going to be excited to watch it, and again-

00:41:52 Team's going to go to the Sears Tower, 360 Tower.

00:41:56 What's the bonding?

00:41:57 Or whatever the fuck.

00:41:58 It's the Willis, but-

00:41:59 The Hancock.

00:42:00 The Hancock.

00:42:01 It's the Willis, but it's always the Sears Tower to me.

00:42:02 They're going to go out on that balcony overwards.

00:42:03 They might not be as...

00:42:05 The Bears, although they've...

00:42:07 No, I think they've been back at Bourbon Bay.

00:42:09 They don't do it at house anymore because of COVID.

00:42:12 They were doing it like everyone was doing it at their facilities.

00:42:15 Oh, slow-mo hot dog shots.

00:42:17 Yeah, I'm excited.

00:42:19 I'm very excited.

00:42:21 There's really nothing that could hurt me more than I've already been hurt.

00:42:25 I say that, and obviously I'm going to get way more hurt, but come on.

00:42:29 Save this.

00:42:30 You guys know.

00:42:31 You guys know how this works.

00:42:32 It is porn.

00:42:33 They're going to be awesome.

00:42:34 I would like to experience at some point, being a Commanders fan, getting to watch the full

00:42:39 documentary behind my own team.

00:42:40 Right.

00:42:41 Maybe you'll get the end season.

00:42:42 I might get the end season, yeah, but nobody watches the end season.

00:42:44 And they did the off-season with the Giants?

00:42:46 The Giants, yeah.

00:42:47 So we're going to see free agency and draft.

00:42:50 Why doesn't every team just do this now?

00:42:52 I think a lot of them do.

00:42:54 Also, we're going to get episode three where we stop watching.

00:42:57 I'll keep watching, but America will stop watching, because that's just what happens

00:43:00 now with hard knocks.

00:43:01 Yeah, after the preseason starts.

00:43:02 Yeah.

00:43:03 Okay.

00:43:04 I have-- oh, we should talk some hockey.

00:43:08 Oh, actually, wait.

00:43:09 One more football topic.

00:43:10 Memes.

00:43:11 He doesn't look old.

00:43:13 What are you talking about?

00:43:15 I know what you're going to say.

00:43:16 No.

00:43:17 I was not going to say that.

00:43:20 Who are you talking about?

00:43:22 You know who I'm talking about.

00:43:24 Who are you talking about?

00:43:25 Aaron Rodgers.

00:43:26 Oh, is there a video out?

00:43:28 There's a video.

00:43:29 It was blister maintenance prevention.

00:43:31 What?

00:43:33 That's what Pat McAfee said.

00:43:35 Okay.

00:43:36 And how did he look running around?

00:43:38 He looked fine.

00:43:40 Oh.

00:43:41 I thought he kind of was hobbling a little.

00:43:43 Yeah, he just got taped up.

00:43:45 So you're not worried?

00:43:46 Not worried.

00:43:47 Okay, great.

00:43:48 I mean, he looked really good last off-season.

00:43:50 We saw where that got him.

00:43:51 Yeah, that's true.

00:43:53 And he's also young.

00:43:55 Maybe the secret is to just not be able to run away from defensive linemen.

00:43:58 Just get hit.

00:44:00 This is mean.

00:44:01 This is mean.

00:44:02 Memes, this video, you watching, you got bothered.

00:44:08 I got a little bothered because people just kept tagging me.

00:44:10 Yeah.

00:44:11 But it was the non-Achilles foot, Del.

00:44:15 I don't think the blister maintenance means nothing to me.

00:44:19 It's him running around looking like he's 50 years old.

00:44:23 Like, he looks -- that little hobble, is that a blister?

00:44:28 All right, it's a blister.

00:44:30 It's just a blister, guys.

00:44:31 Might be COVID, though.

00:44:32 Might be COVID, though.

00:44:33 I don't know what that is, but --

00:44:35 He was also examining his feet a little bit.

00:44:38 We're talking about Aaron Rodgers.

00:44:40 No one has him picked up, but yeah.

00:44:42 He looked hobbled.

00:44:43 Oh, is that who that is?

00:44:44 Yeah, that is.

00:44:45 I guess that is Aaron Rodgers.

00:44:46 I don't know.

00:44:47 He's going to get some more maintenance, okay?

00:44:49 That's a horoscope chart.

00:44:50 He's going to drop back, pitch it, and then --

00:44:53 He's got a blister.

00:44:57 Okay.

00:44:58 Oh.

00:44:59 A little ginger.

00:45:00 A little ginger.

00:45:01 A little ginger.

00:45:02 Okay.

00:45:03 A little Andy Dalton.

00:45:04 Yeah, a little ginger.

00:45:05 We should talk hockey, though.

00:45:07 Let's talk hockey.

00:45:08 Memes, this is the nice part of the show for you.

00:45:10 The Panthers take a 3-2 lead, win at the Mecca.

00:45:14 You have to feel like it's over.

00:45:19 Don't feel like it's over yet.

00:45:21 I feel like it's going 7.

00:45:23 But --

00:45:24 Well, you literally just asked me before the show.

00:45:27 It's got to be over, right?

00:45:28 It's got to be over.

00:45:29 Yeah, memes is in incredible crisis mode with the Rangers being this close to a

00:45:33 Stanley Cup final.

00:45:35 I walked in, like, maybe at like 7, I don't know, 45, and the big TV was

00:45:43 hockey and there was no basketball.

00:45:45 And I was like, "Hey, can we put the basketball game on?"

00:45:47 He goes, "Oh, I totally forgot that there's a basketball game tonight."

00:45:50 He's so invested.

00:45:51 I think he roots harder for the Rangers to lose than he does for the Islanders

00:45:54 to win.

00:45:55 Correct.

00:45:56 Which I respect.

00:45:57 That's a pure hater move.

00:45:58 Absolutely.

00:45:59 Yeah.

00:46:00 So, memes, it's over.

00:46:01 I don't think it's over.

00:46:02 So what is your analysis for the Rangers' ability to come back here?

00:46:06 I would like the Rangers to win Game 6.

00:46:08 What?

00:46:09 And then lose in historic fashion at Game 7.

00:46:12 Oh, that's a really stupid strategy.

00:46:13 You got to make this a must lose.

00:46:16 Playing with fire.

00:46:17 It's a must lose.

00:46:18 You and Max are just two sides of the same coin.

00:46:20 You don't understand must wins, must loses.

00:46:22 Panthers must win Game 6.

00:46:23 There you go, Jake.

00:46:24 Jake gets it.

00:46:25 And then the Oilers, that was an incredible comeback.

00:46:28 I know it was only 2-0 lead, but it was more how fast they went from down 2-0

00:46:34 to 2-2 and then how fast they went 2-2 to 4-2.

00:46:37 And it was a gut check moment for the Oilers because they lost Game 3 at home.

00:46:43 Crowds amped up so loud.

00:46:45 Game 4, they come out flat.

00:46:47 It's like, "Uh-oh, this series is over."

00:46:49 And Conor McDavid, turns out he's really goddamn good,

00:46:52 even if he's not scoring goals.

00:46:53 Yeah, he is.

00:46:54 He might be injured.

00:46:55 He's a good facilitator.

00:46:56 You think he's got lower body?

00:46:57 No, people are saying I was reading some of my own Twitter replies

00:47:03 saying that Conor McDavid might have something going on with his wrist,

00:47:07 and that's why he's not shooting as much.

00:47:09 And a little Adam Banks situation.

00:47:12 Hold this stick and rotate.

00:47:14 Upper body.

00:47:15 And he got screwed with that shot that should have gone in.

00:47:18 The goalie stick was just sitting there.

00:47:20 Yeah, yeah, he did.

00:47:21 He did.

00:47:22 I'm rooting for Edmonton to get to the finals.

00:47:25 I would like to see Edmonton and Florida.

00:47:28 Yeah, people will say we're anti-Dallas.

00:47:30 I was--I've been--Hank, am I anti-Dallas?

00:47:35 God, no.

00:47:36 Yeah, glazing.

00:47:37 I've been glazing Luca.

00:47:38 Yeah, I want--

00:47:39 Glazed donut.

00:47:40 I want every Dallas team to win except the Cowboys.

00:47:43 Okay, we're going to have Whitney on, by the way, next week,

00:47:47 and possibly Yance.

00:47:49 Neither of them know it, so if they hear this, just hit me up.

00:47:53 Do you want to do my baseball topics?

00:47:55 Yeah, yeah, let's do it.

00:47:56 Okay, I've got four baseball topics.

00:47:58 I've got one, too.

00:47:59 I've got probably one of the same ones.

00:48:00 Okay, well, you want to pick one through four?

00:48:03 Three.

00:48:04 Three.

00:48:05 Jinx.

00:48:06 Oh, okay, three's good.

00:48:10 Ben Verlander's the weirdest tweeter of all time.

00:48:16 What is that?

00:48:18 He jinxed me.

00:48:19 Oh.

00:48:20 I can't talk.

00:48:21 Okay, thank you.

00:48:22 Yeah, no, I agree.

00:48:23 I concur.

00:48:24 Yeah, so he tweeted yesterday, "It's so wild to me that when a pitcher

00:48:28 throws up near Jose Altuve's head, fans loudly cheer.

00:48:32 I honestly think if he got hit in the head and died on the field,

00:48:36 people would cheer."

00:48:39 So here's the thing.

00:48:40 Short king to short king talking here.

00:48:44 It's hard not to throw near Altuve's head.

00:48:46 Yeah, they're all up and in.

00:48:48 Anything above the belt on a normal human is towards his head.

00:48:52 They would -- hold on.

00:48:54 "I honestly think if he got hit in the head and died on the field,

00:48:57 people would cheer."

00:48:58 I don't think that.

00:49:00 I don't think so.

00:49:01 I think it'd probably be pretty quiet.

00:49:03 Probably cancel baseball for a couple weeks, maybe a week, at least a day.

00:49:08 Yeah.

00:49:09 No, Ben's way off on this one.

00:49:11 Yeah, you know what?

00:49:12 We might have to have him on.

00:49:13 You know what?

00:49:14 He seems like a really nice guy, but he just -- remember he said that he was

00:49:18 literally throwing up from Shohei Otani getting hurt?

00:49:22 Yeah, I admire his passion.

00:49:24 I do, too.

00:49:25 He's very passionate.

00:49:26 I like that, but I just more want to be like -- it's kind of like when we had

00:49:30 John Rossine on.

00:49:32 Like, "Hey, explain some tweets."

00:49:33 It's not a mean thing.

00:49:34 There's going to be a lot of them.

00:49:35 Yeah, I'm not coming at you.

00:49:37 I would like to know what's going on through your head when you're like,

00:49:40 "If Jose Altuve died, people would cheer."

00:49:43 I would not.

00:49:44 No.

00:49:45 I would bang on a trash can.

00:49:46 Yeah.

00:49:47 At his funeral.

00:49:48 Like bagpipes.

00:49:50 Ben probably thinks that people would show up at his funeral like the

00:49:54 Westboro Baptist Church with a bunch of trash cans.

00:49:56 Yeah.

00:49:57 It's also not hard to understand.

00:49:58 We were robbed of making fun of the Astros because of the COVID year, so

00:50:02 people feel like we'll never get our full justice.

00:50:05 Yeah.

00:50:06 All right.

00:50:07 That was topic one -- or that was topic three.

00:50:09 Hank?

00:50:10 Two.

00:50:11 Two.

00:50:13 The Mets, Jorge Lopez.

00:50:15 Did you guys see this?

00:50:16 I did not see this one.

00:50:17 He came off the field, had a terrible relief outing, and through his

00:50:23 glove into the crowd in disgust.

00:50:26 And then afterwards, he was asked by reporters, "What's going on?"

00:50:31 And he said he's on the worst team in probably the whole fucking MLB.

00:50:37 Ooh.

00:50:38 Did you see his statement, though?

00:50:40 What?

00:50:41 He said because his efforts to address the media in English, he felt it made

00:50:48 him the worst teammate in the entire league.

00:50:50 Oh, that's a good spin zone.

00:50:51 Well, what about the -- was there a translation issue when he threw his

00:50:54 glove into the crowd?

00:50:55 No.

00:50:56 Oh, okay.

00:50:57 And then he got cut.

00:50:58 Yeah, he DFA'd him.

00:50:59 Yeah.

00:51:00 But he was saying he was the worst teammate, not the worst team.

00:51:02 Got it.

00:51:03 Got it.

00:51:04 I can buy that.

00:51:05 That's the show, huh?

00:51:06 So did he get DFA'd because of the quote or because of his play?

00:51:09 I think it was the throw.

00:51:10 I think both.

00:51:11 Yeah.

00:51:12 He threw his glove.

00:51:14 And a Yankees fan caught it, which is so perfect for the Mets.

00:51:17 Oh, that's tough.

00:51:18 Yeah.

00:51:19 That's really tough.

00:51:20 So if you throw his glove, they DFA him for throwing a glove?

00:51:23 You can lose your job for that?

00:51:24 He threw it in anger at the crowd.

00:51:27 Assuming he's also bad.

00:51:28 Yeah, that too.

00:51:30 And the Mets are bad.

00:51:31 Like, he's not totally wrong.

00:51:33 I mean, there's a couple teams worse.

00:51:35 But they're pretty bad.

00:51:36 White Sox, right?

00:51:37 White Sox, yeah.

00:51:38 Rockies are pretty bad.

00:51:40 Marlins are pretty bad.

00:51:41 Yeah.

00:51:42 Athletics, sneaky, not that bad.

00:51:44 Yeah, unfortunately, we're hovering around --

00:51:47 We're right below 500.

00:51:48 Yeah.

00:51:49 We're right below 500.

00:51:50 Okay.

00:51:51 That was topic number two, Hank.

00:51:53 One.

00:51:54 Okay, good, because it's four I didn't want to do until the end.

00:51:57 Did you guys see we have a knuckleballer again?

00:52:01 Yeah.

00:52:02 David Fletcher.

00:52:03 He was the Angels infielder.

00:52:06 He's now on the Braves AAA, and he's basically become a knuckleballer.

00:52:10 And it's a very cool story, because we've been saying for a long time --

00:52:14 We need one.

00:52:15 We need one.

00:52:16 The also cool part about David Fletcher, he's under investigation by the MLB

00:52:19 for the Shohei Otani gambling issue.

00:52:22 Yeah, that is very cool.

00:52:23 The fact that he's a knuckleballer is awesome, too.

00:52:25 We do need a knuckleballer in Major League Baseball.

00:52:27 Yeah.

00:52:28 It's so fun to watch, if for nothing else, than just to give everybody

00:52:31 that's, like, 30 or above just the chance to think to themselves, like,

00:52:35 "If I really put my mind to it, I could become a knuckleballer."

00:52:39 Yeah.

00:52:40 "I, too, could be a Major League Baseball pitcher."

00:52:41 Yeah, and that's what he's doing.

00:52:42 Yeah.

00:52:43 And he's also under investigation.

00:52:44 He was dubbed Shohei Otani's best friend, was gambling with the same bookie.

00:52:49 Also, another teammate of his was gambling on games of his,

00:52:54 allegedly with that bookie.

00:52:57 A little messy, but the knuckleball is cool.

00:52:59 Yeah, the knuckleball is really cool.

00:53:00 I'm willing to overlook all that stuff.

00:53:01 Yeah.

00:53:02 Just like Shohei, I'm willing to overlook it, because Shohei is so much fun

00:53:05 to watch.

00:53:06 Right.

00:53:07 If it's a knuckleball pitcher, absolutely.

00:53:08 Yeah.

00:53:09 Bring him in.

00:53:10 Yeah.

00:53:11 I have a question about my last one was the Negro League's records.

00:53:14 Was that yours or no?

00:53:15 Yeah, that was mine.

00:53:16 Okay.

00:53:17 I have a ... So, it's cool because guys that were kept out of the sport by the MLB

00:53:27 are being acknowledged.

00:53:29 Is it crazy to say, though, part of me feels weird?

00:53:33 There were a lot of people online, "This is bullshit.

00:53:36 We like our records."

00:53:37 I don't give a fuck about that.

00:53:39 The weird part to me is MLB segregated the black players, told them they cannot play

00:53:45 in the MLB, made them create their own leagues because you cannot play.

00:53:51 We're keeping you out.

00:53:53 Now, 80 years later, they're basically inheriting their statistics and putting them on the MLB

00:53:59 website and almost erasing it, like the Negro League's being like, "Oh, yeah.

00:54:05 It's all part of MLB."

00:54:06 That feels weird to me.

00:54:07 They're trying to make people forget the fact that it was the MLB that kept black players

00:54:12 out of professional baseball and made them start their own league for a long time.

00:54:16 By inheriting those stats and bringing those in, they're kind of saying, "These belong

00:54:21 to us now."

00:54:22 Right.

00:54:23 That's not at all what happened.

00:54:24 If you were to ask players who played at the time, you probably could.

00:54:27 I don't know what they'd say.

00:54:28 I don't want to speak for them, but thinking if I put myself in their shoes, I'd be like,

00:54:32 "Fuck you.

00:54:33 You wouldn't let me play baseball, and now you're trying to act like that era never happened."

00:54:39 It is very cool that people are going to get to see the records and the individual stats

00:54:43 are going to come more to light on a much bigger scale, which is good.

00:54:46 Yep.

00:54:47 That's the good part of it.

00:54:48 The bad part is MLB is essentially doing this to try to make themselves into a good guy

00:54:55 based on the fact that they were a very bad guy back in the day.

00:54:58 Our friend Ryan Spader had a good ... I don't know if it was a thread or if it was just

00:55:03 one tweet, but he kind of laid out the case for it because MLB will start to now say,

00:55:08 "These are MLB stats."

00:55:10 Right.

00:55:11 They're probably going to start to say, "NL/AL record," instead of, "MLB record," for certain

00:55:17 stats that were surpassed by players that played in the Negro Leagues that came over.

00:55:21 Yeah.

00:55:22 All right.

00:55:23 We had the same thought because it's one of those stories.

00:55:26 You're like, "All right.

00:55:28 It's good that the Negro Leagues are getting the acclaim right now, and I know that getting

00:55:32 some of these guys in the Hall of Fame was very important, but the MLB feels like they're

00:55:37 just kind of patting the Negro Leagues on the head, being like, "These are ours now."

00:55:41 In 50 years from now, when you look up who was the leader and you see Josh Gibson, you

00:55:48 don't get the full story that MLB kept Josh Gibson out of Major League Baseball.

00:55:53 Yeah.

00:55:54 And then also ended the Negro Leagues by not ... A lot of times when there's the ABA/NBA,

00:56:02 they inherit some of the teams, and some of the teams become part ... They bring them

00:56:06 in as expansion.

00:56:07 When the Negro Leagues, when they started integration, they brought in a couple players,

00:56:13 but they didn't bring any of the teams in, and basically that decimated the Negro Leagues.

00:56:18 Mm-hmm.

00:56:19 So it's like, "MLB, you kept them out, then you ruined the Negro Leagues, now you want

00:56:24 the records?"

00:56:25 I don't know.

00:56:26 And I could be way off.

00:56:27 People could be like, "This is the wrong take.

00:56:28 That's fine."

00:56:29 That was my initial ... This seems weird.

00:56:31 I think it would be better to be solved the way basketball does it, Professional Baseball

00:56:36 Hall of Fame, or just Baseball Hall of Fame, and have it not be ... Is that what it is

00:56:41 in Cooperstown, or is it MLB?

00:56:43 I think it might be Baseball Hall of Fame.

00:56:44 I think it's the National Baseball Hall of Fame.

00:56:45 Yeah, it's the Baseball Hall of Fame.

00:56:46 So I went to MLB.com today, and I looked up stats, like career leaders, and Josh Gibson

00:56:53 is leading in, I think it was batting average.

00:56:57 And you have to click on his name to see that he didn't play in the MLB, again, because

00:57:03 the MLB kept him out.

00:57:04 So it is the National Baseball Hall of Fame.

00:57:06 So that's good.

00:57:08 It tells the full story there.

00:57:09 But for Major League Baseball to say, "These are our records," when, no, in fact, you kept

00:57:14 them out of Major League Baseball, it's a little dicey.

00:57:17 And it's going to get, as years go by, it will get confusing that ... The story will

00:57:24 get confusing to future generations, and it won't get fully told that they kept all these

00:57:29 incredible players, which the Negro Leagues, by all accounts, and we've heard the stories.

00:57:35 Also when guys went from Negro Leagues to Major League Baseball, they flourished.

00:57:42 So the Negro Leagues was playing at a very high level, so the argument that, "Oh, they

00:57:45 didn't play enough games," or, "Oh, that wasn't as good as ... No, it was probably better

00:57:49 than a lot of baseball players in MLB," that argument doesn't hold any water.

00:57:53 I think the stars would have been the stars no matter what league they were playing in.

00:57:57 Some of these guys left, played in Negro Leagues, then after their prime went to MLB and still

00:58:03 dominated.

00:58:04 Yeah, they were also forced to do some barnstorming, so they had to play ... There were some games

00:58:07 that were against inferior opponents at the time, but you don't hold that against those

00:58:11 players because they were forced to do that because MLB would not let them play professional

00:58:16 baseball.

00:58:17 Right.

00:58:18 So I don't know.

00:58:19 That was just ... It felt ... And again, I could be way off, but it just feels like in

00:58:20 50 years, 100 years, the story will be so confusing that it won't be fully told that

00:58:29 Major League Baseball did not let black people play in Major League Baseball for a large

00:58:34 part of their history, which is very bad.

00:58:37 Yes.

00:58:38 And Ty Cobb was actually not a big racist.

00:58:42 So there's one author that fucking hated Ty Cobb that just completely sullied his name.

00:58:48 And I don't know if Ty Cobb had some bad streaks, and I'm probably not an angel, but I don't

00:58:55 think he was the bad guy that he's sometimes made out to be.

00:58:58 I read a long story about it last night.

00:59:01 He was a surly guy. He was quick-tempered, thin-skinned, but by all accounts, was not

00:59:10 the racist that everyone was taught he was when we were taught about Ty Cobb.

00:59:14 Whereas he's the most racist guy in the world.

00:59:16 Put the statue back up.

00:59:18 Yeah.

00:59:19 It really did look like it was one author basically wrote a book and that was just his

00:59:24 story.

00:59:25 Yeah.

00:59:26 It was one author that really, really did not like Ty Cobb.

00:59:27 Yeah.

00:59:28 So be nice to authors who might be writing your biography one day.

00:59:31 Yeah.

00:59:32 Josh Gibson's arms were fucking massive.

00:59:35 See pictures of those?

00:59:36 Yeah.

00:59:37 Yeah.

00:59:38 Satchel Paige-

00:59:39 He's a beast.

00:59:40 ... was a monster.

00:59:41 Yeah.

00:59:42 Satchel Paige is a perfect example.

00:59:43 I think Satchel Paige pitched in MLB at the end of his career when he was well past his

00:59:47 prime and was good.

00:59:49 Correct me on that, Jake, if you can.

00:59:51 No, I'm pretty sure he did.

00:59:53 I'm pretty sure in the early 50s he pitched in Major League Baseball.

00:59:58 But yeah, that was ... It's kind of a ... People were getting angry at each other online.

01:00:05 48 to 53 and then he came back to 65 for one year.

01:00:09 Yeah, on the internet.

01:00:10 Yeah, look at him.

01:00:11 He's 41 years old and he went to Major League Baseball.

01:00:12 You're not telling me Satchel Paige, if he was allowed to play in Major League Baseball

01:00:16 his entire career, wouldn't have been one of the best pitchers of all time?

01:00:19 Didn't he pitch nine innings every single game?

01:00:22 Yeah.

01:00:23 So, yeah, people were upset about their old stats.

01:00:27 Who the fuck cares?

01:00:28 I actually think you should just get rid of all old stats pre-integration because the

01:00:33 Major League stats are also tainted.

01:00:35 You kept out-

01:00:36 Because you kept out some of the best players.

01:00:38 You deliberately kept them out.

01:00:40 You shouldn't be able to count those as the number one stats.

01:00:43 I think that people in general should just not fall in love with numbers.

01:00:47 Numbers aren't everything.

01:00:48 "Oh, my stats.

01:00:49 Oh, the stats are different now.

01:00:50 Oh, no, when I look at these numbers, there's a different name next to some of the numbers."

01:00:54 It's a very Major League Baseball story because Major League Baseball is the number one, we

01:00:59 got to protect the stats.

01:01:00 Yeah, they are.

01:01:01 It's weird.

01:01:02 Yeah.

01:01:03 Imagine if the NFL acted that way.

01:01:05 All the passing stats are going to be broken 100 times over in the next 20 years.

01:01:09 There's 20 games now.

01:01:10 20 games in a season.

01:01:12 Right.

01:01:13 They're all going to be shattered.

01:01:14 I mean, the only thing that really, whenever they change the amount of games in a year,

01:01:19 it does make you go back and be like, "OJ was built different."

01:01:24 Every time they add another game.

01:01:25 2,000 yards.

01:01:26 Every time there's another game, OJ Simpson becomes .0001% more likable.

01:01:33 Well, he's very likable dead.

01:01:36 That's true.

01:01:37 Yeah.

01:01:38 Okay, anything else before we do our great Mike Breen interview?

01:01:41 We had the spelling bee.

01:01:42 Oh, yeah.

01:01:43 When did that happen?

01:01:44 Today.

01:01:45 The finals were tonight.

01:01:46 Who won?

01:01:47 A guy named Bruhat Soma.

01:01:49 He spelled 29 words and a spell off in 90 seconds.

01:01:52 There was a spell off.

01:01:53 There was a spell off?

01:01:54 There was a spell off.

01:01:55 Hank, I got a question for you.

01:01:57 His winning word was abseil, meaning a descent in mountaineering by means of a rope looped

01:02:04 over a projection above.

01:02:05 Can you use it in a sentence?

01:02:09 The mountaineer had a real great abseil.

01:02:14 It fucking rocked.

01:02:15 To the language of origin?

01:02:17 English.

01:02:18 It's an English word.

01:02:19 Is that really good?

01:02:20 Yes, Jake.

01:02:21 Yeah.

01:02:22 It's an English word.

01:02:23 Abseil.

01:02:24 Abseil.

01:02:25 Abseil.

01:02:26 Yes.

01:02:27 I'll use it in a sentence for you.

01:02:28 No, actually I won't.

01:02:29 No, you should do it.

01:02:30 No.

01:02:31 You should use it in a sentence.

01:02:32 No, no.

01:02:33 Hank, do you agree that Big Cat should use it in a sentence?

01:02:37 Yes.

01:02:38 I don't really have a sentence for it.

01:02:39 I was trying to figure out a way to do it.

01:02:43 Hank promises that he will have a six pack, but I'm abseiling on that one.

01:02:50 Abseil.

01:02:51 If it works.

01:02:52 If it didn't work.

01:02:53 If Hank is not able to dunk, he will abseil himself from the rim of the basketball court

01:02:58 in Barstool headquarters.

01:02:59 Yeah.

01:03:00 Hank can suck a mean abseil.

01:03:01 Abseil.

01:03:02 Abseil.

01:03:03 Abseil.

01:03:04 A descent in mountaineering.

01:03:05 I'll give it a try after.

01:03:06 A.

01:03:07 Yeah.

01:03:08 B.

01:03:09 Are you just saying the alphabet?

01:03:10 S.

01:03:11 Okay.

01:03:13 A.

01:03:14 I.

01:03:15 L.

01:03:16 Ding.

01:03:17 No, they do the ding when it's wrong.

01:03:19 Okay.

01:03:20 That was so confusing.

01:03:21 That's what they do.

01:03:22 Yeah.

01:03:23 We don't know.

01:03:24 We don't know that.

01:03:25 You know the bell.

01:03:26 I don't.

01:03:27 I have not watched spelling beat a very long time.

01:03:28 I do know the bell, but in the moment when you ding, I think correct.

01:03:31 Yeah, ding is correct.

01:03:32 No, the guy goes, "That is correct."

01:03:34 Hank Scott doesn't brain though.

01:03:35 He's so committed to trivia.

01:03:36 All right.

01:03:37 Abseil.

01:03:38 I'm going to give it a shot.

01:03:39 Abseil.

01:03:40 What did he say?

01:03:41 A, B, S, A, L.

01:03:42 He said A, B, S, A, I, L.

01:03:45 I'm a phonetic guy.

01:03:46 Abseil.

01:03:47 If there was a phonetic spelling bee, I would dominate.

01:03:49 Abseil.

01:03:50 Is that just spelling words wrong?

01:03:51 Spelling them phonetically.

01:03:52 Abseil.

01:03:53 What was the language of origin?

01:03:54 English.

01:03:55 It's an English word.

01:03:56 Abseil.

01:03:57 A, B, D, S, A, L, E.

01:03:58 No.

01:03:59 Abseil.

01:04:00 Ding.

01:04:01 Oh, shit.

01:04:02 I'm going to give it a shot.

01:04:03 I'm going to give it a shot.

01:04:04 Abseil.

01:04:05 I'm going to give it a shot.

01:04:06 Abseil.

01:04:07 Abseil.

01:04:08 Abseil.

01:04:09 Abseil.

01:04:10 Oh, shit.

01:04:11 There's got to be a U in there.

01:04:12 I somehow got a D in there.

01:04:13 Hank was very close.

01:04:14 Hank was really close.

01:04:15 Was it S, A, L, E?

01:04:16 No.

01:04:17 A, B, S, E, I, L.

01:04:18 He said A, I, L.

01:04:20 Very close, Hank.

01:04:21 S, E, I, L?

01:04:22 Yeah, he said S, A, I, L.

01:04:25 That doesn't sound like an English word.

01:04:27 I'm going to say it.

01:04:28 I think PFT banged me.

01:04:30 I have no idea what fucking country.

01:04:31 Well, that's a huge part of the spelling bee.

01:04:33 It's an English word.

01:04:34 I don't know where it came from.

01:04:35 I don't know the word's parents.

01:04:36 You can tell by the letters it's not England.

01:04:38 Hank, spell the word I cup.

01:04:41 Ooh.

01:04:42 I, K.

01:04:43 Oh, come on, Hank.

01:04:45 Oh, you know it.

01:04:48 He knows it.

01:04:49 All right, that was spelling.

01:04:51 Okay, let's get to our Mike Breen interview.

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01:06:24 And now, here's Mike Breen.

01:06:26 Okay, we now welcome on a very, very special guest.

01:06:30 It is the voice of the NBA, Mike Breen.

01:06:33 You're going to hear him for the NBA Finals, which is starting shortly, but not shortly

01:06:38 enough.

01:06:39 Mike, thank you so much for joining us.

01:06:42 I actually, this is a very dumb question to start.

01:06:45 We always like to do our dumb questions right off the jump.

01:06:49 But we talk about rest versus rust with the NBA Finals and the Celtics having all this

01:06:54 time off.

01:06:55 Is there rest versus rust for announcers?

01:06:58 Is there a certain point where you're like, "I'm kind of losing it.

01:07:01 I need to get back in the booth"?

01:07:02 Well, am I allowed to give a dumb answer to the dumb question?

01:07:06 Yes.

01:07:07 Of course.

01:07:08 Of course.

01:07:09 No, it's actually a good question.

01:07:10 You know what?

01:07:11 There's been a bug floating around the crew, so I've been battling a chest cold last couple

01:07:16 of days.

01:07:17 Rest is ideal right now, although we still prefer ... I mean, I want every series to

01:07:22 go seven games, but since this was a sweep, I'll take advantage of the rest.

01:07:28 Yeah.

01:07:29 Classic Tibbs announcer, getting drained by the end of the year, right?

01:07:32 Yeah.

01:07:33 Draining you too hard.

01:07:34 Yeah.

01:07:35 No, we love you.

01:07:36 You're obviously something that I think American sports fans can all point at and say, "We

01:07:41 like Mike Breen," which is rare because you have to find something to hate about everybody.

01:07:46 Do you have any haters?

01:07:47 Oh, of course.

01:07:48 I'm sure there must be many of them out there.

01:07:51 I mean, it's impossible.

01:07:53 This happens every playoffs, guys, where say I'm doing a Lakers-Celtics finals.

01:07:59 You go into Boston and the Celtic fans are yelling at you, "Man, it's clear you want

01:08:05 the Lakers to win."

01:08:06 So you do a couple of games there, then you go to LA and it's just the opposite.

01:08:11 The Laker fans are saying, "Oh, man, can you try and hide how badly you want the Celtics

01:08:15 to win?"

01:08:16 It happens every year.

01:08:18 It happens in every sport.

01:08:20 You can ask anybody who does the other ... Ask Joe Buck.

01:08:23 He's dealt with that.

01:08:24 The world ... The guys who do the Super Bowls, it's the same thing every year.

01:08:28 Yeah, we've actually talked to Joe Buck about that.

01:08:30 And we said, "I think every team has a part of their fan base that just hates you and

01:08:34 thinks that you're biased against their team."

01:08:36 And he told us which team he really hated and had a bias against.

01:08:39 So which team do you really hate?

01:08:41 I really don't.

01:08:43 I'll tell you what's an interesting thing that I wish fans would understand sometimes.

01:08:48 Most of them do.

01:08:50 But when you're doing an NBA game, and one of the complaints the fans will say, "Well,

01:08:55 you're getting so much more excited for them than you are for our team."

01:08:59 But often it has to do with where you're playing.

01:09:03 For example, last night in Indiana, the Pacers hit a shot.

01:09:08 The place is going crazy.

01:09:09 You've got to raise your intensity to overcome the crowd.

01:09:12 You don't have to do it as much when it's the road team because obviously the crowd

01:09:17 isn't going as crazy.

01:09:18 So that does come into play sometimes because there's been some games where, say I'm doing

01:09:25 Warriors-Cavs.

01:09:26 And the Warriors are getting beaten.

01:09:30 The Cavs hit a big shot, and it's in San Francisco.

01:09:34 And you're yelling at the top of your lungs what you should do on a big play in a big

01:09:37 playoff game.

01:09:39 But the people who are sitting around you are so quiet because the opponents are scored,

01:09:43 and they're looking at you like, "Can you please shut up?

01:09:45 Can you [inaudible] like that?"

01:09:47 So that does come into play in terms of sometimes you have to go a little higher on the home

01:09:52 team.

01:09:53 Yeah.

01:09:54 I just want to give ourselves some credit.

01:09:55 This is a big Big J journalist move by us.

01:09:58 I know that you went to Fordham, and you've been in the industry for a very long time.

01:10:02 Credit to us for lasting all of three questions before we started talking about the bang.

01:10:08 I had to.

01:10:10 I've been holding it back.

01:10:11 I'm the meme.

01:10:12 Holding it in your bang?

01:10:14 Yeah, I've been holding it in my bang.

01:10:17 When did the bangs begin?

01:10:19 I have many questions.

01:10:20 Let's start there.

01:10:21 The bang.

01:10:22 The origin of the bang, and when did you know, "Hey, this is my thing.

01:10:27 I'm Marv Albert.

01:10:28 Yes, this is going to be my thing."

01:10:29 You know what?

01:10:30 I started it when I was a student at Fordham, but I didn't do it on the air.

01:10:35 When I was sitting in the stands, I went to every Fordham basketball game, drove everywhere

01:10:39 to root for my college team.

01:10:41 There was about 10 or 11 of us, including Michael Kay, who of course is the Yankee voice

01:10:47 for so many years.

01:10:49 When we weren't broadcasting the game on the student radio station, we'd sit in the stands

01:10:52 and we'd cheer like crazy.

01:10:54 When a Fordham player hit a big shot, I would yell it as a fan.

01:10:58 I tried it on the air as a student broadcaster, but I didn't think it worked, so I kind of

01:11:02 shelved it.

01:11:03 But then I started doing it again.

01:11:06 One of my first jobs, I was doing this high school game of the week package.

01:11:10 We'd do these Friday night games, Friday night high school games in packed gyms.

01:11:15 I mean packed.

01:11:16 They were small ones, but so loud.

01:11:19 It was hard to overcome the crowd, so I was searching for a concise call for a big moment,

01:11:25 and a one-syllable word seemed to work, so I started using it there.

01:11:29 I kind of liked the way it worked.

01:11:31 I've always tried to be less is more as a broadcaster, so that's when it started on

01:11:36 the air.

01:11:37 Okay, so that's a great story that it was as natural as natural could be that you were

01:11:42 doing it while sitting in the stands.

01:11:44 What then, the double bang.

01:11:47 Do you know when a double bang is coming?

01:11:48 You've done eight total.

01:11:49 I'm sure someone's told you this, but what's the benchmark that has to clear for a double

01:11:55 bang?

01:11:56 Because when it happens now, it's actually like a seismic event online.

01:12:00 Mike Breen just did a double bang.

01:12:02 I'm concerned that you know how many there are.

01:12:04 Yeah, well, we're big fans.

01:12:06 They're tracked.

01:12:07 Yeah, and when we get a double bang, it's a big, big moment.

01:12:10 I got a great double bang this playoffs.

01:12:12 Yeah.

01:12:13 Fantastic double bang.

01:12:14 Yeah.

01:12:15 You know, it's completely spontaneous.

01:12:20 I'm 63 now, and I love basketball as much as I did when I was six and first started

01:12:25 playing.

01:12:26 So when I watch something and somebody does something spectacular, and especially if it's

01:12:32 a surprise, especially if it's in a huge situation, I just kind of lose it.

01:12:39 And I've never planned it.

01:12:41 It just comes out.

01:12:43 The excitement's so good.

01:12:45 Like for example, Dante DiVincenzo hit one earlier in the playoffs for the Knicks, and

01:12:51 the way that game had turned on a dime, it just came out.

01:12:55 And I'd like to think that I maintain my fan love of the game and get excited when something

01:13:01 unexpected like that happens.

01:13:02 Yeah.

01:13:03 Do you ever think to yourself, "I'm about to say bang so MF'ing loud"?

01:13:09 I've seen the meme.

01:13:10 Fortunately, I've been able to avoid using that word on the air.

01:13:15 You should do a bet where if you lose, you actually have to get that literally tattooed

01:13:19 on your forehead.

01:13:20 So you become the meme in real human form.

01:13:23 That would work well at my age.

01:13:24 I'd be making that.

01:13:25 Yeah.

01:13:26 No, we appreciate the enthusiasm.

01:13:27 Yeah.

01:13:28 Yeah.

01:13:29 Well, I was just going to say, do you know, can you recall your double bangs in history?

01:13:33 Do you have them off the top of your head?

01:13:36 Well, Steph Curry was the first one.

01:13:39 Yep.

01:13:40 Sure.

01:13:41 Also, when you do...

01:13:43 So Steph Curry's the first one you double banged.

01:13:45 You go back to the booth afterwards, or the truck, and everyone's like, "Mike, what the

01:13:49 hell was that?"

01:13:50 I said it twice.

01:13:51 You've never double banged.

01:13:53 No, the first one even shocked me.

01:13:57 The whole thing was even...

01:14:00 It was the buildup to that shot.

01:14:03 The whole game, the whole season, that was a buildup.

01:14:06 Let's see.

01:14:07 There was Julius Randall had one last year in a game on the MSG Network for when they

01:14:14 beat Miami down in Miami.

01:14:17 Eric Gordon had one.

01:14:20 It was a huge game between Houston and Golden State, or maybe Houston and Lakers.

01:14:25 I don't remember now.

01:14:27 And then there were two, this playoff, Steven Chenzo and who's this?

01:14:32 I've already forgotten who the other one was.

01:14:34 I can't remember who the other one was either.

01:14:35 I'm trying to think.

01:14:36 Steven Chenzo, that was a big one because it was New York.

01:14:39 You were there.

01:14:40 It was an awesome comeback.

01:14:41 It might've been Jalen Brown in the corner.

01:14:43 Was that a double bang?

01:14:44 Yes.

01:14:45 That's the one.

01:14:46 Okay.

01:14:47 Yeah.

01:14:48 It's just disturbing that I can't remember the one that happened last week.

01:14:52 The double bangs are great.

01:14:53 They are, yeah.

01:14:54 It really does feel, and it captures the moment because I like the fact that there's only

01:14:58 been eight of them makes it extra special where it's like it's only coming out for a

01:15:02 really unbelievable moment.

01:15:04 Well, I think if somebody told me that there were people that are upset that they didn't

01:15:09 feel that Jalen Brown deserved a double bang.

01:15:12 So now they're rating the quality of the double bang.

01:15:16 I thought it did.

01:15:17 I mean, he basically saved a playoff game and an important playoff game because it was

01:15:21 the first of the series.

01:15:22 Yeah.

01:15:23 Yeah.

01:15:24 But again, it just comes out.

01:15:27 They're saying that because the other double bang happened so recently.

01:15:31 So it's like, oh, is he just becoming a double bang guy?

01:15:33 Have you thought about ever doing a triple bang?

01:15:35 You wouldn't do a triple bang, would you?

01:15:37 No.

01:15:38 I don't think you got the chops for a triple bang.

01:15:39 That'd be crazy, Mike.

01:15:40 No, I don't think so.

01:15:41 I've tried.

01:15:42 You know, the other thing, too, is, you know, people think I say it all the time.

01:15:51 I would say more than 50 percent of the games, I never even use one.

01:15:55 I've tried because I think if you do it too much, it just wears out its welcome.

01:16:01 So I've tried to be selective, not just a double bang, but even just a regular bang

01:16:06 for an important one in the game.

01:16:08 There's been some games where it seems like, you know, there's going to have this phenomenal

01:16:14 ending.

01:16:15 Somebody is going to hit a three at the buzzer.

01:16:16 And that's when sometimes I'll say, let's save it for maybe the big play at the end.

01:16:21 And the big play never happens.

01:16:22 The guy gets fouled and the winning points are from the free throw line.

01:16:25 Yeah.

01:16:26 So I don't normally go bang on a free throw made.

01:16:29 But sometimes I know even games that just I don't even do any of them.

01:16:34 Yeah.

01:16:35 So if you if you go that stretch where like there's, you know, blowouts or whatever and

01:16:39 you haven't used a bang in a while, do you ever get nervous?

01:16:42 Like, do I remember how to bang?

01:16:44 No, no.

01:16:45 You know, talk about the free throw.

01:16:49 You know, my kids show me a lot of stuff on social media and somebody actually made a

01:16:55 video of me.

01:16:57 I mean, the ultimate screaming bang on just basic free throws made in the first quarter.

01:17:02 I love it.

01:17:04 It's awesome.

01:17:05 Yeah, it's great.

01:17:06 It's iconic.

01:17:07 It is like I said, Marv Albert.

01:17:09 Yes.

01:17:10 Like, you know, when the bang happens like that's Mike Breen.

01:17:12 It's a big moment.

01:17:14 It just works so perfectly for basketball.

01:17:16 Well, I mean, obviously Marv was the biggest influence for me and people, at least for

01:17:23 me, this is what Marv had different levels of.

01:17:26 Yes.

01:17:27 You know, there'd be a there'd be a first quarter guy make a nice move, hit a shot.

01:17:31 Yes.

01:17:32 And then in the second quarter, there might be like a big 15 or run.

01:17:35 The guy hit a three pointer at the end of 15 or run me.

01:17:38 Yes.

01:17:39 A little more.

01:17:40 And then, of course, he had the great ones at the end.

01:17:42 But, you know, a game winning call or a momentum changing call.

01:17:45 And that was the beauty of Marv is like you could tell by the tone of the yes, whether

01:17:50 it was all right, that's a pretty big shot or that was the shot of the game.

01:17:54 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:17:55 We have one more bang related question.

01:17:56 Then we can get back into the real interview.

01:17:59 Do you have a favorite bang?

01:18:01 What's your favorite thing you've ever done?

01:18:06 The Curry double bang is very special because of that year, the way it happened and the

01:18:13 Ray Allen one because the Ray Allen bang was that shot decided who was going to win a title.

01:18:19 He doesn't hit that and the Spurs win the title.

01:18:23 But because he hits that, they win the game, they win game seven.

01:18:26 So that one was was was pretty big.

01:18:29 It was one which with Derek Rose that I've always loved.

01:18:35 I was a big fan still.

01:18:36 I'm Derek Rose, just not only a wonderful player, but but a terrific guy.

01:18:41 And he hit one in Chicago against LeBron James in the Cavs to win a game at the buzzer, a

01:18:46 playoff game.

01:18:47 I was there.

01:18:48 Yeah, that was pretty exciting.

01:18:50 Yeah.

01:18:51 If you this might be another dumb question, but if you go back and you listen to those

01:18:53 calls, we love those calls.

01:18:55 I get excited just thinking about that Ray Allen shot and your voice providing the soundtrack

01:18:59 to what I remember as like a pivotal moment in NBA basketball.

01:19:04 When you go back and you watch those clips and you hear yourself, do you enjoy your own

01:19:08 voice?

01:19:09 Do you enjoy your own bangs?

01:19:10 Are you like, oh, my voice is gross.

01:19:12 Get it off.

01:19:13 No, you kind of like who is this screaming fool?

01:19:17 Just just chill out there, pal.

01:19:19 But what I do when I do watch them or somebody said something to me, it just it brings me

01:19:25 memories of the particular game and how exciting the games were and, you know, how a great

01:19:29 player can step up.

01:19:30 I'm still I'm blown away by the talent of these guys and what they're able to do, you

01:19:36 know, for real, like especially Ray Allen one.

01:19:39 Here's a guy, you know, I watched him play for over many years.

01:19:42 I think he played like 17 years and any game I ever broadcast that he played in, whether

01:19:47 it was Milwaukee, Boston, Miami, and I must have done a hundred Ray Allen games, maybe

01:19:52 more.

01:19:53 He was at the arena when I arrived on the court already shooting.

01:19:58 And that shot he hit in game six, I saw him take hundreds of those in pregame warmups.

01:20:04 So that was no fluke.

01:20:06 That was something that it was just in his arsenal and the practice year after year of

01:20:12 doing it.

01:20:13 And then the biggest moment of his career was able to knock it down.

01:20:16 Yeah.

01:20:17 Yeah.

01:20:18 So, Mike, your your career is fascinating because I think, you know, a lot of the guys

01:20:22 that we hear are calling national games.

01:20:25 That's kind of what they always have done.

01:20:26 But you started in radio and you, you know, you worked for Don Imus and you did, there

01:20:32 was, I read a story that you basically were working, you know, 5 a.m. in the morning and

01:20:36 then calling Knicks games at night, which it's incredible.

01:20:38 And it's also a testament to your hard work and getting to the place you are.

01:20:42 But how much was radio, how much did radio help you in doing the live broadcast of games?

01:20:48 And I would assume like you have a great sense of humor.

01:20:51 And I think, you know, when you're in, do you call back on that when it's a blowout

01:20:54 or it's like, I got to fill some time?

01:20:56 Well, the radio part was instrumental.

01:21:00 It's much harder to do a radio broadcast than a TV broadcast, because you have to describe

01:21:05 everything you've got to be the, you know, it's not a cliche.

01:21:09 You have to be the the eyes of the of the listener.

01:21:12 And if you can do that, all you when you start to do TV, you know, you have to pull back

01:21:17 a little bit.

01:21:18 And, you know, there are other obstacles that are built the way you work and your partner's

01:21:22 a little more difficult.

01:21:23 You obviously have a producer and director that talk to you in the ear while you're doing

01:21:27 the game.

01:21:29 But radio is it's the ultimate foundation to start.

01:21:32 And that's what I did.

01:21:33 I mean, my first broadcasts were all radio with the Fordham radio station.

01:21:37 And then my first job, I was a news reporter on the radio for a Poughkeepsie radio station

01:21:44 in New York.

01:21:45 So it it created a foundation that allowed me to be on the air quite a bit and and get

01:21:51 better.

01:21:52 And if after you do it for a while, if you don't get better, then you need to do something

01:21:55 else.

01:21:56 But it gave me the chance to improve and work on my on air presentation, so to speak.

01:22:02 Yeah.

01:22:03 Yeah.

01:22:04 So unfortunately, we learned of the news of Bill Walton's tragically passing away yesterday.

01:22:08 And we talked about him on on Tuesday's show and how much of an icon he was and what a

01:22:14 great human he was and what an interesting individual he was.

01:22:19 And I know that you have a personal relationship with him.

01:22:22 And at one point, you told a reporter that you would fight anybody to the death if you

01:22:26 heard them speak ill of Bill Walton.

01:22:29 And I want to hear your story about Bill and why he meant so much to you.

01:22:33 Yeah, that was an article Katie Baker, the wonderful writer for The Ringer, wrote it.

01:22:39 And I'll try not to make it too long.

01:22:43 I apologize, guys.

01:22:44 No, go as long.

01:22:45 We loved Bill.

01:22:46 We talked about it on our show.

01:22:48 We had the joy of getting to interview him once.

01:22:50 And it's like when when when I retire someday, that will be up there with like I got to spend

01:22:56 three hours with Bill Walton.

01:22:57 That was incredible.

01:22:59 That's up there for me as well.

01:23:01 The story was this about 15 years ago.

01:23:04 My dad had Parkinson's disease and it was advancing to the point where we were worried

01:23:10 he's not going to get out of the house.

01:23:11 He wasn't going to be able to get out of the house.

01:23:13 Now, we lived in New York and my younger brother, Pete, called me up and said, hey, before he

01:23:19 can't travel anymore, let's let's take him to see the USS Midway.

01:23:23 The Midway is the aircraft carriers.

01:23:25 It's in San Diego right now as a museum.

01:23:28 And my dad served on the Midway in the Korean War.

01:23:31 I had not been on the ship since he left the service.

01:23:35 So we made plans to go and take him out to see the Midway one last time.

01:23:39 And I called Bill because Bill lives in San Diego and said, I need a hotel recommendation.

01:23:43 Well, of course, Bill's like, you're not staying in a hotel.

01:23:48 You're staying in my home.

01:23:50 So we planned this three day trip out there.

01:23:53 And for three days, when we get out there, Bill was by my father's side for three straight

01:24:00 days.

01:24:01 First thing he did is he put him in the bedroom, the Bob Dylan room.

01:24:05 All Bill's rooms in his home were named after him.

01:24:09 They were mostly musicians.

01:24:10 And the Bob Dylan room was a place of honor.

01:24:14 So he put my dad in the Bob Dylan room.

01:24:16 And, you know, every meal, John, you sit here next to me.

01:24:20 Breakfast, lunch, dinner.

01:24:21 We go for drives to places.

01:24:24 John, you sit in the front seat with me.

01:24:26 They were inseparable for three days.

01:24:28 Bill would not leave his side.

01:24:30 And then the day we went to the to see the Midway, where I was thinking we're just going

01:24:35 to go buy tickets like anybody who can get a tour.

01:24:38 Well, the day before, he had called over to the Midway and told them that one of your

01:24:43 heroes is returning to the ship that he served on.

01:24:47 So when we get there, we are greeted by the commander of the Midway.

01:24:52 And he takes us on this two hour tour in and out.

01:24:56 And guys, an aircraft carrier is no place for a seven foot man who has back, knee and

01:25:02 ankle problems.

01:25:03 It was a painful walk for Bill, but he every step of the way never left my father's side.

01:25:09 It was really emotional for him, for my dad going back and the condition he was in.

01:25:16 And he broke down a couple of times.

01:25:18 And every time he broke down, my brother and I did the same thing.

01:25:21 And I'd look at Bill and there's Bill.

01:25:23 He's got tears just streaming down his cheeks.

01:25:26 So then we get back to the house after this just amazing day that meant so much to my

01:25:31 father and that Bill came with him.

01:25:33 I couldn't find the two of them.

01:25:35 I'm like, where did they go?

01:25:37 Bill had a teepee in his yard.

01:25:40 I mean, an enormous teepee that you could sleep a number of people.

01:25:43 And I go back looking, there's the two of them sitting in the teepee just talking about

01:25:48 life and Bill listening to my father's stories and back and forth.

01:25:54 So when we left, it wasn't Bill wasn't my friend.

01:25:58 Bill was my father's friend.

01:26:00 And he didn't live much longer after that.

01:26:02 And my mother who's still alive, she said until he passed, he talked about that all

01:26:08 the time.

01:26:10 It was in a tough stretch.

01:26:11 The end of his life was very difficult.

01:26:14 Those were the three best days in the last years of his life.

01:26:18 And there's a huge picture still in this day.

01:26:21 My mother still lives in the same house.

01:26:22 There's a huge picture of the two of them sitting in the teepee together that she just

01:26:28 she adores the picture.

01:26:30 When I was given the Gowdy Award at the Basketball Hall of Fame, I took my whole family up there,

01:26:37 including my mother.

01:26:38 And there are so many NBA legends there.

01:26:42 She had no interest and she's a basketball fan.

01:26:44 She had no interest in meeting any of them.

01:26:46 She just kept saying to me, where's Bill?

01:26:48 I need to meet Bill Walton.

01:26:50 And when she met him, she and I get emotional even thinking about it.

01:26:55 She just wanted to say thank you for what you did for my husband.

01:26:58 What he did those three days were three of the happiest days of my father's life.

01:27:03 That's such a good story.

01:27:04 Yeah, I mean, that is so Bill Walton.

01:27:07 Like he just, like I said, even the three hours we spent with him, he makes you feel

01:27:11 like the most important person in the world.

01:27:13 And he does that for, it seems like he did that for everyone.

01:27:16 Right.

01:27:17 You think you're the only one that he's sending these wonderful texts to or he's doing those,

01:27:21 he does it for everyone.

01:27:22 I know.

01:27:23 And it's, you know, how many people in our lives, when they say your name or say their

01:27:29 name to you, the first reaction you have is you smile or you laugh.

01:27:34 And anytime anybody would say, Hey, tell me about Bill Walton.

01:27:37 I'd either laugh or smile.

01:27:38 And then I'd go into the story.

01:27:40 And that's the gift he gave all of us in that no matter if he was with you or even when

01:27:45 he wasn't with you, when he came up, you had to smile.

01:27:49 That's awesome.

01:27:50 Yeah, he really was the best.

01:27:52 So in your career, um, you know, doing the Knicks now doing national, uh, broadcast,

01:27:59 is there a moment that you look back at and you're like, that was when it not became easy,

01:28:05 but like, Oh, I'm, I'm really good at this and I can feel comfortable being in the booth

01:28:10 because I'm sure most broadcasters I deal with it myself, like a little bit of imposter

01:28:16 syndrome, like, am I going to be good at this?

01:28:18 Was there a moment where it clicked and you're like, I'm, I'm really good at this.

01:28:20 I'm Mike Breen bang.

01:28:23 That's interesting.

01:28:24 You say that cause that never fully goes away.

01:28:27 Yeah.

01:28:28 You always think, okay, I better be prepared.

01:28:31 I've got to do my best because you know, they still think I'm good enough to do this.

01:28:37 So there are other people who are better that, and that's, that's something that drives you.

01:28:42 But it's just a matter of, I mean, I still get nervous before NBA finals games, um, or

01:28:47 a big playoff game seven or something.

01:28:50 But it's good butterflies.

01:28:51 It's adrenaline butterflies.

01:28:52 And if I didn't have them, I think I'd be more worried than if I, than I have them.

01:28:57 And I think it's good.

01:28:58 I think it's a good motivator.

01:28:59 Um, but it's like everything you do.

01:29:02 Like I remember the first NBA game I ever did, I was so nervous.

01:29:05 My voice must've been so high.

01:29:08 And then the first close game you did, uh, that it's like this great fight to the finish.

01:29:14 I was hyperventilating as, as the game is going on, trying to keep up with it.

01:29:18 And then it's the first close playoff game you do.

01:29:21 So each, each step that you take in terms of the magnitude of the game, um, you need

01:29:25 to do it, at least for me, you need to do it a few times before you really feel comfortable.

01:29:30 Um, but what's always helped me, whether it's a huge game, whether it's a, uh, just a regular

01:29:36 season, um, game that doesn't have a lot of meaning.

01:29:39 If you go in prepared, if you're fully prepared, um, then you can relax knowing that whatever

01:29:44 happens, at least you'll know how to deal with it.

01:29:47 And that's, that's what, that's, what's always kept my confidence is that my preparation

01:29:51 allows me to feel confident when I go on the air.

01:29:54 Yeah.

01:29:55 So what does preparing look like for you?

01:29:56 I think some people out there think that announcers are just, they're handed a big sheet of paper

01:29:59 with all the stats that they have to read off and that's it.

01:30:03 Then they just go and they, and they commentate on what they see.

01:30:05 But when you're preparing for a game, how much time does it take and what do you do

01:30:08 specifically to prepare?

01:30:10 No, that's basically it.

01:30:12 I get handed the sheet.

01:30:13 No, it's, um, I tend to, and I'm sure every announcer will tell you this, you tend to

01:30:21 over prepare.

01:30:22 I think of all the stuff that you do, if maybe you get 15% of that preparation on the year,

01:30:29 that's a lot.

01:30:30 And the way I like to phrase it on a basketball game is, okay, so each player, like in an

01:30:35 NBA game, now there are 13 active players on each team for that game.

01:30:39 What I want to do is I want to have, if that any of those 13 players, either the best player

01:30:45 or the 13th has the game of their life, I want to be able to have enough information

01:30:50 on them to tell their story in terms of where they are in their career, what they've done,

01:30:55 where they've come from.

01:30:56 Um, and that's, that's part of the preparation for me for an NBA game.

01:31:00 Yeah.

01:31:01 Now I would assume the answer is no, but are you ever preparing a like time filler blowout

01:31:08 talking points?

01:31:09 Do you ever go to a game, you don't want it to be a blowout, but in the back of your head,

01:31:13 you're like, if it is like we can talk about this or that, or is it all just kind of stream

01:31:17 of consciousness, whatever's happening?

01:31:19 No, that's pretty much every, that's part of the preparation.

01:31:23 Oh, and like to have, like for me with players, I like to have personal anecdotes about players.

01:31:29 So when, when a game gets out of hand, at least you can do is you can kind of talk about

01:31:34 their, you know, their upbringing, where they came from or their, their history in terms

01:31:39 of clutch games or whatever kind of information you want.

01:31:43 And the other thing I try and do is league issues.

01:31:46 You know, have there been a lot of traveling calls lately?

01:31:48 What's the reason for that?

01:31:50 And even, um, different things like other, other NBA things that are going on, like,

01:31:56 uh, there's been an arrest of technicals or whatever, but I try and have some league issue

01:32:01 stuff on the side and personal anecdotes on the side in case it gets like that.

01:32:05 Yeah.

01:32:06 Has your job become more difficult with replay?

01:32:10 Not because obviously replay helps get the calls right, but the pauses in the game and

01:32:15 you guys having to sit there while, you know, they, they look over video for three, four

01:32:19 minutes in the middle of an intense playoff environment.

01:32:23 Has that made it more difficult to broadcast?

01:32:26 Um, I don't know if it's made it more difficult.

01:32:28 I think it hurts the product a little bit.

01:32:30 I think it's become a necessary evil and they're certainly not going back to no replay, but

01:32:36 there are certain times that the flow of the game is affected.

01:32:40 And that's when the game's at its best, the end of the game where they're just going back

01:32:44 and forth and back and forth.

01:32:45 And when it stops with the replays.

01:32:47 Now the league did address that a couple of years ago and they did change some of the

01:32:49 replays, especially the out of bounds.

01:32:52 If you remember, they used to have last two minutes, every out of bounds call they could

01:32:55 review and they did.

01:32:57 They fortunately, um, they got rid of that.

01:33:00 So they're trying to do a better job and I think it's worked, but those games, especially

01:33:04 a playoff game where it's like a three, four minute review, those are maddening to me.

01:33:09 It's like, okay, if it's going to take this long, just go with the initial call and move

01:33:13 on and everybody will accept that.

01:33:15 And I think players and coaches would accept that as well.

01:33:18 Yeah, I'd agree.

01:33:19 It does.

01:33:20 It gets stretched out sometimes and you're just like, okay, we see what the call should

01:33:22 be.

01:33:23 Why is it taking him so long to, to make that announcement?

01:33:26 I'm curious to know, cause you've seen so much of the NBA.

01:33:29 You've watched all the best players up close.

01:33:31 Who's the guy that you got?

01:33:32 Maybe it's a current player, maybe it's a former player that you would get the most

01:33:35 excited to do his game, to be able to sit front row and watch this guy play.

01:33:41 You know, it changes every year.

01:33:43 Like this year, Wim Binyama, I couldn't wait to do one of his games because I've never

01:33:48 seen anything like it.

01:33:50 You know, same thing in the last couple of years, like when Donchik first came in, like,

01:33:53 oh, I got a Dallas game.

01:33:55 Good.

01:33:56 I can see this amazing player.

01:33:58 I can see Kobe was every game.

01:34:00 There was something electric about him.

01:34:02 He just had something.

01:34:05 And Michael as well.

01:34:07 I think the current guys now, the two guys that you can't wait to see, and even at their

01:34:12 age that they're playing, LeBron James and Steph Curry, the two of them, there's never

01:34:19 an off night in terms of their focus and their effort and what they bring.

01:34:25 And they know their responsibility, too, of the people who are paying a lot of money to

01:34:29 come see them play in particular.

01:34:32 So there's a lot of them.

01:34:34 Tim Duncan was another one that, even though he wasn't flashy, just how, in such a business-like

01:34:39 fashion, he would just obliterate his opponent and never change his expression.

01:34:46 So there's so many of them like that.

01:34:50 I mean, I know this sounds corny, guys, but it's such an honor to call these games and

01:34:55 a privilege.

01:34:56 These guys work so hard to play and get to the level that you want to get it right.

01:35:02 I feel you have a responsibility to get their moment right by a call that's worthy of the

01:35:08 play.

01:35:09 Yeah.

01:35:10 So that makes me think, have you ever gotten it wrong?

01:35:11 Have you ever disappointed yourself and then gone back home and been like, damn it, Mike

01:35:15 Breen, what did you just do?

01:35:18 All the time.

01:35:20 I make mistakes every night.

01:35:22 I've been doing that.

01:35:23 I've been making mistakes every night for 30 years plus.

01:35:26 But it's the end of game ones.

01:35:28 There was a game, was it last year?

01:35:30 Game one of the playoffs where Jason Tatum hit a big shot at the end.

01:35:35 And I butchered the call so badly because I didn't see it correctly and I didn't sync

01:35:41 it with the clock.

01:35:42 And it just, it was an absolute mess.

01:35:45 I didn't sleep that night.

01:35:46 And part of it is you ruin the call for the player.

01:35:50 So here's this big moment, you ruin the call.

01:35:52 The other thing is, you know, basketball is a team sport to play.

01:35:56 It's a team sport to broadcast.

01:35:58 And I felt like I let the rest of the crew down because we had up until then, it was

01:36:02 an amazing game and we had all the right replays and graphics and sound bites.

01:36:08 And Jeff and Mark, who are my partners, were outstanding down the stretch of this close

01:36:13 game with strategy.

01:36:14 I thought I was having one of my best games and then the last play, I just killed it.

01:36:19 And it was awful, awful.

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01:37:09 And now here's more Mike Breen.

01:37:11 Here's a business idea for you.

01:37:14 Why don't you just have a service where you'll redo any of the mistakes for a little fee?

01:37:19 Maybe then, whoops, Mike Breen's losing it a little.

01:37:22 He's messing up a couple of calls.

01:37:23 Oh, Jason Tatum, you want this call redone?

01:37:25 No problem.

01:37:26 I got you.

01:37:27 It's like cameo.

01:37:28 Yeah.

01:37:29 Just for the players' calls that you screwed up.

01:37:30 Yeah.

01:37:31 Guys are always coming up with business ideas like this.

01:37:34 I need that kind of thought process for sure.

01:37:37 We get a cut of that.

01:37:40 That should have been ... You should have read the fine print before you got into this

01:37:42 interview.

01:37:43 Any business idea we come up with, we get at least 15%.

01:37:45 Yeah, if you triple bang.

01:37:46 I'm going to send my lawyers after you.

01:37:49 Triple bang is for sure.

01:37:50 We're wetting the beak on that one.

01:37:52 It's become like the razor wars where it's like the first company said, "We've got two

01:37:55 razors."

01:37:56 The other company said, "How about three razors?"

01:37:57 What about four?

01:37:58 I think you're going to triple bang at some point, Mike.

01:38:00 Yeah, you will.

01:38:01 I think you just ... You want to say you're not going to, but I think there's going to

01:38:07 be a moment that you're just not going to be able to stop yourself.

01:38:10 Well, again, and I'm not just saying it.

01:38:13 It comes out.

01:38:15 If there's an NBA Finals game seven that's decided by a three pointer, I might lose it

01:38:22 completely on some point.

01:38:23 Yeah.

01:38:24 Yeah, it might be like 10 bangs.

01:38:25 That might be the only word that you say for the rest of your life.

01:38:28 A triple bang might sound better than a double bang.

01:38:30 I haven't tried it yet.

01:38:32 Yeah.

01:38:33 A bang, bang, bang.

01:38:34 How'd that sound?

01:38:35 That sounds good.

01:38:36 That's all right to me.

01:38:37 Bang, bang, bang, bang.

01:38:38 There's got to be a pause in between them.

01:38:41 All right, give us a triple bang right now.

01:38:43 No.

01:38:44 You're smart.

01:38:45 You're smart.

01:38:46 You're a smart guy.

01:38:47 Don't waste that.

01:38:48 Yeah, no.

01:38:49 Yeah, I think-

01:38:50 We would have definitely dubbed that over every clank.

01:38:51 Yeah.

01:38:52 Yeah, I think the three bangs would have to increase in excitement.

01:38:56 So you start out with a normal bang, louder, and then screaming, just yelling your face

01:39:00 off at the third bang.

01:39:02 Yeah.

01:39:03 Nice little crescendo.

01:39:04 Yeah.

01:39:05 It's all about the preparation.

01:39:06 Yeah.

01:39:07 Yeah.

01:39:08 Can you tell us just how crazy the Malice at the Palace was from your point of view?

01:39:12 Because I think we're at the point now where it's been over 20 years and everyone knows

01:39:19 it, but there's a new crop of sports fans that don't understand just how insane it was

01:39:25 watching.

01:39:26 I remember watching it live and being like, "What is going on right now?"

01:39:29 And you were there calling the game.

01:39:32 Just how nuts was it to see that?

01:39:34 By the way, I was calling the game with Bill.

01:39:37 Yeah.

01:39:38 Bill was our sideline.

01:39:41 And I remember I've never seen Bill so upset from something that happened on the court.

01:39:49 He felt he was wounded on how he felt this look for the league and the sport that he

01:39:54 loved so much.

01:39:56 He was really, really, really down after that.

01:39:59 We stayed up to like two or three in the morning talking about the game.

01:40:04 He just couldn't believe that that's something happened on national TV because it was in

01:40:08 person.

01:40:10 It was uglier than when you watched it on television.

01:40:13 And the reason was every time it seemed like the security and the refs got a handle on

01:40:18 it, something worse happened and then more.

01:40:20 And even when the players went into the stands, it was like, "I don't believe we're actually

01:40:24 watching this."

01:40:25 And even when they finally got him off, there were some more skirmishes and it just seemed

01:40:29 like it wouldn't end.

01:40:31 But the thing that worried me the most was we were on the opposite side of the benches.

01:40:37 The crowd started coming down in mass.

01:40:42 And that's what was worried.

01:40:43 Like, is the crowd going to come down and start more of this and attacking?

01:40:47 And then there's nobody that could possibly break it up.

01:40:50 There's not enough security to break that up.

01:40:52 And that was worrisome to me.

01:40:54 This mob mentality that you felt was developing.

01:40:57 And I'll never forget, I've told this story a bunch, when the Pacers, they were trying

01:41:02 to get him off the court and to go to the visiting locker room.

01:41:06 It's a narrow little hallway with the stands like right above.

01:41:10 So if you're in this one part of the stands, you can almost reach down and touch their

01:41:13 head.

01:41:15 And I remember when the players were trying to get off, there was a woman who was really

01:41:19 nicely dressed, like dressed like she was going out to dinner.

01:41:23 And she was like standing right there amidst these guys who were just screaming and yelling

01:41:28 and cursing.

01:41:29 And I'm thinking to myself, "Oh my God, this poor woman is in the midst of this mess."

01:41:33 And all of a sudden, she takes out a full bottle of water and just heaps it at one of

01:41:38 the players' heads.

01:41:40 And that's, to me, that was like, "Okay, this woman would have never done anything like

01:41:44 that."

01:41:45 But she got caught up in this mob mentality that everybody's emotions just ran amok.

01:41:50 And that's, to me, that was the scariest part of the whole thing.

01:41:53 It was like something you hope will never happen again, but while watching it, it's

01:41:58 just like, "What is it?"

01:41:59 Because you're right, it was just the waves of it.

01:42:01 Where it's like, "Oh man, there's another person.

01:42:03 There's another person.

01:42:04 There's another guy.

01:42:05 Oh, there's Turtle from Entourage.

01:42:06 He just got knocked out."

01:42:07 I actually thought you did a very good job of telling people what was going on as it

01:42:11 was happening.

01:42:12 Because in a situation like that, it's just such chaos in the building.

01:42:16 You still were like, "You got a job to do, Mike.

01:42:18 You have to tell people exactly what's going on, who's in the stands, who's on the court."

01:42:23 What's happening.

01:42:24 Was that a conscious decision you made in the moment?

01:42:26 Like, "I'm going to stand here.

01:42:28 I'm going to just kind of be like a play-by-play announcer for a giant brawl."

01:42:32 Well, I give credit to, at that time, the Knicks had been involved in a number of different

01:42:41 brawls.

01:42:42 So, it wasn't the first one.

01:42:43 I talked before about how the first time you experience something on the air, you kind

01:42:48 of have to navigate and sometimes make mistakes the first time, and then you get better each

01:42:52 time.

01:42:53 You get better with each basketball brawl.

01:42:55 By this time, I had done a few of them, and I remember ... I can't remember where I first

01:43:00 heard it from, but they said, "When something like that happens, do play-by-play.

01:43:04 Just do the play-by-play.

01:43:06 Talk about what you see."

01:43:07 It's obviously not basketball.

01:43:08 It's a fight.

01:43:09 That's what I tried to do on that particular night.

01:43:14 Yeah.

01:43:15 I'm also curious to know, from your point of view, how the game ... So, the game of

01:43:17 basketball has obviously changed a lot in the last 20, 30 years.

01:43:21 How has the announcing game changed?

01:43:27 That's a great question.

01:43:28 Great question.

01:43:29 Thank you.

01:43:30 First off, the technology in terms of coverage and the amount of cameras and the ability

01:43:37 of the cameras to catch every little thing really gives you a better insight and feel

01:43:42 of specific plays, in-depth look at whether fouls are called, et cetera.

01:43:48 I'm amazed by the technology.

01:43:51 I do think the analytics has just gone crazy.

01:43:58 They're great for the game.

01:43:59 They're great for the fan, but trying to find a balance between, "Okay, let's do some numbers,

01:44:06 but let's not get crazy with numbers," because too much numbers, the spoken word can just

01:44:11 get all mangled up into one thing.

01:44:14 I think that's two of the ways that it's changed.

01:44:19 I think another thing, if you look back at any sport, and I'm sure you guys have seen

01:44:23 this, you go back to an older game broadcast in the '70s or the '80s, and often you don't

01:44:30 think the announcers are that excited.

01:44:33 It was a much more calmer way of calling the game, even big moments.

01:44:38 They raised their level a little bit, but the calls have become much more high intensity

01:44:44 than they ever used to.

01:44:46 Compare a 1970s or '80s call of a finals game or a Super Bowl, and then compare it to now.

01:44:54 It's different in a lot of cases.

01:44:55 I think that's a big part that it's become okay.

01:45:01 In fact, it's become a good way to show you're excited as much of a fan.

01:45:05 Back in the old days, you wouldn't do that because you'd sound like a fan.

01:45:08 Now I think it's more encouraged, and I think fans like that, that you're excited or as

01:45:15 excited as they are sometimes on a big play.

01:45:17 Yeah.

01:45:18 I love the home broadcast, whether it be for basketball or baseball, where it's like you

01:45:23 can kind of mix that the guys are rooting for the same thing that you're rooting for.

01:45:27 For you, the Knicks, and then you call the Knicks all during the regular season, then

01:45:34 you got to call them in the playoffs.

01:45:35 Was that difficult?

01:45:38 Were Knicks fans mad at you because you are their voice, and they listen to you all regular

01:45:43 season, and now you're in the playoffs, and you have to call it down the middle?

01:45:47 Did you find yourself slipping at all, or was there any moments where you're like, "Oh

01:45:51 man, I kind of hope the Knicks win this game"?

01:45:54 No.

01:45:55 I'd hope not on the air, but I know some Knicks fans are upset.

01:46:01 Dimhard hit a big three to win a game, game three against the Pacers, and he got a bang

01:46:06 there, and Knicks fans were mad that I did a bang for an opponent.

01:46:12 Pacer fans were very upset.

01:46:14 They felt we were way too pro-Knick and rooting for the Knicks.

01:46:19 I went back, and especially on games like that, I don't do it a lot, but I went back

01:46:23 and watched the games to see if I felt there was bias, because I'd like to think I'm my

01:46:27 harshest critic, and I didn't see that.

01:46:30 So I felt good about it, but I know there's always people that think that you're rooting

01:46:34 one way or the other for whoever the team is.

01:46:37 Yeah, it's also just got to be difficult for you just sitting there, because you're sitting

01:46:41 in MSG, and you've been doing it all year, and then you're watching the same team that

01:46:45 you know so well.

01:46:46 It's kind of hard to not have something slip out.

01:46:48 It's a testament to you and your professionalism, but I would definitely just be like, "Yeah,

01:46:53 I'm rooting for the Knicks.

01:46:54 I'm a Knicks fan.

01:46:55 What do you want me to say?

01:46:56 I want to keep calling Knicks games."

01:46:59 I've done enough of them over the years, and there's so much to concentrate on in terms

01:47:03 of the actual job that it's not as hard as you think.

01:47:07 I'm sure there's some people that will disagree, but I'd like to think we did a nice, unbiased,

01:47:14 down-the-middle call.

01:47:15 What about Luka?

01:47:16 We were talking with Rachel Nichols last week about Luka Doncic and how he likes to get

01:47:22 in the refs' ear.

01:47:23 He likes to get in everybody's ear.

01:47:24 When he's yelling at the refs, is he yelling in, was it Slovenian, or is he yelling in

01:47:29 English?

01:47:30 I think he mixes it up.

01:47:33 He's trying to get better.

01:47:36 He was really bad, probably the worst in the league for a couple of years, but he's really

01:47:40 trying to get better.

01:47:41 There was a game recently where he started to get mad, and he stopped, and he went up

01:47:46 to the ref.

01:47:47 He had his hands together like he was praying, like, "Please, I just want to talk to you.

01:47:50 I don't want to yell.

01:47:51 I want to talk to you."

01:47:52 He's working on it.

01:47:53 Sometimes we do forget these guys are so young.

01:47:57 It's like I can imagine me, 22, being in that kind of hostile atmosphere, the pressure of

01:48:03 playing against the best in the world.

01:48:06 It's hard not to get emotional.

01:48:08 I think he's gotten better at it, and hopefully that'll continue because, man, he is a generational

01:48:15 player that is so competitive.

01:48:18 J.J. Redick, who now is one of my partners on ESPN and ABC, he played with him.

01:48:26 Luke is pretty close to the vest with the media.

01:48:28 It's hard to get close and get to know what he's really like.

01:48:32 J.J. says he's one of the best teammates he's ever been around.

01:48:36 The guy is so normal off the court and just an encouraging, supportive teammate.

01:48:42 What was your advice to J.J. when he told you last week that he was going to leave and

01:48:45 take the Lakers job after these NBA finals?

01:48:49 When the word came out, we've been having a lot of fun with him.

01:48:53 It's clearly a compliment that he's thought of so highly, his basketball mind, that teams

01:48:59 would be interested.

01:49:00 I told him, I said, "Listen, if you take one of these jobs, I'd be so happy for you, and

01:49:06 I'd root like crazy for you, and I would never talk to you again."

01:49:13 He would collect all the stones of being one of the most hated people, being a Duke guy

01:49:16 and a Laker at the same time.

01:49:18 Yeah, you need to keep him around, because when J.J. Redick sits next to you, people

01:49:22 will just naturally be like, "I like that other guy who's not J.J. Redick," because

01:49:27 years of just having all this hate build up in us for J.J. Redick, you can't help it.

01:49:32 You're just like, "Yeah, shut up, J.J. Redick.

01:49:34 Let Mike Breen talk."

01:49:35 He has amazing stories about when he played at Duke, and it wasn't easy, to say the least.

01:49:44 There's some mean, cruel, ugly crowds that he had to deal with, and the amount of mental

01:49:50 toughness to be able to deal with that and play at the level he played while he was at

01:49:56 Duke, I find remarkable.

01:49:59 Now getting to know him, the guy has such a brilliant basketball mind.

01:50:06 What I love is he loves the game as much as any player that I've ever been around, and

01:50:11 that combination is pretty cool to be around.

01:50:12 All right, we're going to cut that part, because we're not complimenting J.J. on this podcast.

01:50:18 I want to go back to a name that you mentioned earlier, Michael Kay, who's the voice of the

01:50:23 Yankees, who was your good friend at Fordham.

01:50:28 Did you ever ... Do you guys pinch yourself being like, "We were sitting at the freshman

01:50:33 dorms or wherever it may be at Fordham saying, 'Oh, we want to be the voice of the Knicks

01:50:38 and the voice of the Yankees,' and then it happened?"

01:50:40 That's crazy that that happened.

01:50:43 The first part did happen, and we would say that.

01:50:47 "If you could pick any job, what would you want to be?"

01:50:51 His was the Yankees, and mine was the Knicks.

01:50:56 We do.

01:50:57 We talk about it a lot.

01:50:59 We realize how blessed we are.

01:51:01 We can't believe it.

01:51:03 I'm so proud of him and how long he's been there.

01:51:07 It's just incredible that he's maybe the number one franchise in all of sports, and he's been

01:51:12 there for so many years and has done such a fantastic job.

01:51:17 The odds of that happening, I think, are probably small, but we do talk about it, and we realize

01:51:24 how lucky we are.

01:51:25 Yeah, it's pretty cool.

01:51:26 When you were a kid, we were talking about an athlete the other week that wrote down,

01:51:30 "I will be an NFL football player," in the draft, and then put it up on the wall of his

01:51:35 house.

01:51:36 Did you want to be a professional athlete, or did you want to be a broadcaster for sports?

01:51:40 Oh, no.

01:51:41 I wanted to be a Major League Baseball player.

01:51:44 I wanted to play for the Mets.

01:51:46 I was a skinny kid, so Bud Harrelson was my favorite player.

01:51:51 Every uniform that I wore in Little League, and I think even in high school when I played

01:51:56 baseball, I always wanted to get number three, so that was it.

01:52:01 I have a lot of faults, but one strength I have is I'm very well aware of my limitations

01:52:07 that I knew very early.

01:52:08 I had no shot.

01:52:09 Yeah.

01:52:10 Yeah, you're this high school kid with a booming voice, and your coach is probably like, "Have

01:52:14 you ever thought about talking about sports instead of playing?"

01:52:17 When did you realize you had a good voice?

01:52:20 I never realized that, and you know what?

01:52:23 That's another part of the question you asked before, if I can go sideways for a second.

01:52:30 There was a time in the industry where if you didn't have those golden pipes that so

01:52:35 many ... You didn't get a job, and now you don't have to have the golden pipes.

01:52:39 You just have to be able to project and have a voice that cuts through the sound and stuff

01:52:44 like that.

01:52:46 But I never felt I had that kind of deep pipes that they talk about.

01:52:52 I just ... I didn't start thinking about it until I was like 16 or 17, because a neighborhood

01:52:57 friend was working at a college radio station, and he kind of put the bug in my ear.

01:53:02 This guy Tony Minicola in Yonkers where I grew up, and that's the first time I thought

01:53:06 about doing it.

01:53:07 Tony Minicola.

01:53:08 What a name.

01:53:09 It's a great name.

01:53:10 Yeah.

01:53:11 Did you ever have to lose the New York accent?

01:53:13 Oh, yeah.

01:53:14 Yeah.

01:53:15 If I get tired, it'll come out.

01:53:18 Like the G on I-N-G words, they're nowhere to be found when I start to get tired.

01:53:22 And every once in a while, there's other words that come out.

01:53:25 But I've tried to work on it.

01:53:28 Did you have to practice that?

01:53:30 No, not really.

01:53:32 Just more enunciate.

01:53:34 That was my biggest flaw was that I didn't fully enunciate words.

01:53:37 I'd leave off the last letter of some words and just get a little lazy, I guess.

01:53:42 Yeah.

01:53:43 Here's a dumb, probably a dumb question.

01:53:45 What's the best arena to call a game in?

01:53:48 Because we ask that with athletes all the time.

01:53:52 What's the toughest place to play?

01:53:53 Is there a best and a toughest place to call a game at?

01:53:58 There's a number of arenas that are just off the charts.

01:54:03 You feel it in your bones when you're sitting there.

01:54:06 Madison Square Garden is right up there.

01:54:08 There is no better place when it's a big event.

01:54:11 Yeah.

01:54:12 Whether it's basketball, whether it's hockey, even like a concert, there's just no better

01:54:16 place.

01:54:17 The old Chicago Stadium was the loudest building I've ever been in.

01:54:21 You could be sitting right next to the person.

01:54:24 And when the Bulls fans were going crazy, I could be screaming and you wouldn't hear

01:54:28 a word I say.

01:54:30 Oracle Arena, the Golden State old arena, was as loud as they come.

01:54:38 The TD Garden is fantastic right now, the one in Boston.

01:54:42 Oklahoma City, it's like a college crowd there.

01:54:45 Is there any bad ones?

01:54:47 Not bad in terms of the crowd, but in terms of the setup, where it's like, "Ah, the sightlines."

01:54:51 Or, "It's a little bit more difficult.

01:54:53 I've got to be on my A game tonight."

01:54:56 When you do national games, the sightlines are the same.

01:54:59 Mid-court, court side.

01:55:00 Fantastic.

01:55:01 You can't ask for better.

01:55:02 What's changed in the industry, and here's another part of the other answer, they've

01:55:07 now moved the local broadcasts, both radio and TV, in a number of arenas, up above the

01:55:14 first level.

01:55:16 And that can be hard.

01:55:17 There's some really rough ones, where you're way up, and you wind up doing a lot of the

01:55:22 game off the monitor, as opposed to watching in person.

01:55:25 You're there in the arena, and you're doing the game off the monitor.

01:55:29 I think there's like 13 arenas now where they have us way up.

01:55:34 And it's unfortunate.

01:55:35 I think it compromises the product.

01:55:38 It's not good for the fans who are watching at home, because we can't do as good a job.

01:55:43 But it's all about selling the seats down low, where we used to be, for a lot of money.

01:55:48 What about the meal situation?

01:55:50 Is there one team that's known to hook you guys up with some real choice cuts?

01:55:55 Good question.

01:55:56 Thank you.

01:55:57 Well, if you've been doing this a long time, you know that that's not only a good question,

01:56:03 it's one of the most important questions.

01:56:05 Because I like to eat at the arena when I get there.

01:56:11 And when you have good food at a media dining, as they call it, dinings, depending on where

01:56:16 you go, perhaps not the right word.

01:56:20 There's no question.

01:56:21 We talk about that all the time.

01:56:22 We rate who's got the best, who's not the best.

01:56:25 Like we just in Boston.

01:56:26 Boston has a great one, just a great one.

01:56:28 And Dallas is another one that has one of the better meal rooms too.

01:56:33 What's your pregame meal?

01:56:35 Is it something that you stick to?

01:56:36 Are you a creature of habit where you have the same thing before every game?

01:56:38 Or do you just kind of mix it up depending where you are?

01:56:41 I'll eat anything.

01:56:42 I have my appetite is whatever's available.

01:56:46 And that includes as much dessert as possible.

01:56:49 In fact, JJ was making fun of me.

01:56:51 He goes, how could you eat dessert before a game?

01:56:53 And I said, how can you not eat dessert?

01:56:55 Such a doof guy.

01:56:56 See, isn't he the worst?

01:56:57 All right.

01:56:58 Well, so Mike, this has been so awesome.

01:57:01 I have one last question for you.

01:57:03 It's the rowback question.

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01:57:13 So you have called so many NBA games.

01:57:17 You are the voice of the NBA.

01:57:18 That's how I introduced you here.

01:57:19 And I do believe that.

01:57:21 You've also called the Olympics.

01:57:23 I got to go try to find, track it down.

01:57:26 You called ski jumping.

01:57:28 How was that?

01:57:29 Was that like, what do they even do in ski?

01:57:33 They just jump, right?

01:57:35 It was one of the coolest things I've ever done.

01:57:38 And the thing is here, I'm the announcer on ski jumping.

01:57:40 I was never on skis in my life at that point, but they gave me an analyst guy named Jeff

01:57:45 Hastings, who was an American ski jumper.

01:57:48 And he took all care of the technology.

01:57:51 I'd basically say who the jumper was, where he was from, his record, his history, and

01:57:57 all that kind of stuff.

01:57:58 And then the guy would take off and Jeff would take over.

01:58:02 And he would, he could see if this was going to be a good one or a bad one, how deep it

01:58:07 was, how high it was, all that kind of stuff.

01:58:10 And it was really fun because I took it from a standpoint of a novice.

01:58:14 I didn't know anything about it.

01:58:16 So the questions I asked him, you know, anybody who is an idiot about skiing, that's what

01:58:21 they're going to ask that.

01:58:22 And that's what I asked because I didn't know any better.

01:58:25 And I felt it was like, I was actually really proud of that because I took it from a standpoint

01:58:30 of, all right, I'm a viewer who does not know the sport and I have a chance to ask him this.

01:58:36 But a part of the thing that was so hard is you never, you couldn't do it live.

01:58:42 What we would do is you'd sit there and you'd watch 30 guys go off and NBC wouldn't have

01:58:48 all 30 guys in their coverage, they'd only take 10.

01:58:52 So they would take the top 10 scores.

01:58:54 We'd go into a studio and now we'd have to announce it like it was live going up.

01:59:00 And I could have cheated, you know, if I knew this guy was going to good, I could have said,

01:59:03 I just get the feeling this is going to be a special jump.

01:59:08 But I didn't do it and Jeff didn't do it.

01:59:10 But it was interesting trying to manufacture the enthusiasm on a big jump like that when

01:59:17 we knew whether he finished second or he finished 43rd.

01:59:20 Yeah.

01:59:21 Did you, did you bang it all then or no?

01:59:23 No, no, no.

01:59:24 Oh, what an awesome.

01:59:25 Oh, that would have been a big crash.

01:59:28 Not if they just, what did they hit like a big one?

01:59:31 I don't even know what a big one is called the ski gym, but they hit the big one.

01:59:34 You just give them a bang.

01:59:35 We can bang go in any other sports.

01:59:37 Could you use it in any other sports?

01:59:40 I suppose we should think boxing.

01:59:43 Yeah.

01:59:44 Feel like boxing would be a good one.

01:59:47 I did the NFL for a number of years, long time ago and maybe on a, on a, a great catch

01:59:54 in the end zone.

01:59:55 I don't know.

01:59:56 Field goal, long field goal.

01:59:57 Yeah.

01:59:58 Long field goal would work.

01:59:59 Really?

02:00:00 Field goal.

02:00:01 Yeah.

02:00:02 Winning field game, winning field goal.

02:00:03 Bang works.

02:00:04 Bang a field goal.

02:00:05 Right now.

02:00:06 Do you do it like soon as it goes through the crossbars?

02:00:07 Do you wait to the, to the hands go up?

02:00:09 I mean, I think you go hands.

02:00:11 Yeah.

02:00:12 Yeah.

02:00:13 You wait for hands.

02:00:14 You can't, you can't miss that bang if it looks like it's good and it's short and the

02:00:16 refs don't, you can't prematurely bang.

02:00:18 Yeah.

02:00:19 Yeah.

02:00:20 No bang.

02:00:21 Is there any other sport that you would like to do or are you just going to be basketball

02:00:25 for the rest of your life?

02:00:26 Um, yeah, I've been kind of a one trick pony.

02:00:31 I, um, I think I'd love to do, cause I'm a huge Met fan.

02:00:37 I would love to do a Met game someday.

02:00:39 Oh, you, you could bang a, you could bang a third strike for sure.

02:00:45 A home run.

02:00:46 Yeah.

02:00:47 Yeah.

02:00:48 We should, we should do a broadcast.

02:00:49 Mike Breen and Frank the tank.

02:00:50 Oh, got a color guy for you.

02:00:51 Yeah.

02:00:52 Do you know Frank the tank?

02:00:53 Are you aware of Frank the tank?

02:00:54 Yes, I'm aware of Frank.

02:00:55 I mean, everyone is, you can't be a new, I think that's like, you're not a New Yorker

02:00:59 if you don't know who Frank the tank is.

02:01:01 Um, but no, I think, I think, um, what else?

02:01:06 I love golf, so I would love to, I would love to, uh, love to do a golf golf broadcast

02:01:11 someday.

02:01:12 Use my voice.

02:01:14 Yeah.

02:01:15 Yeah.

02:01:16 Careful with that.

02:01:17 That's when we, that's when everyone started hating Joe Buck again cause they already hated

02:01:20 him and then they started hating him again after that.

02:01:22 Well, it's funny, like you asked about, um, do you have haters and you really do after

02:01:27 a while you, you develop a thing, thin skin and, and uh, you're like, you don't, you don't

02:01:32 worry about it.

02:01:33 And one thing that I think, I think Joe Buck is one of the most talented people who've

02:01:37 ever done this.

02:01:38 Um, the guy is phenomenal at any sport.

02:01:42 Um, uh, one of the greats of all time on the Mount Rushmore, whatever you want to say.

02:01:47 So if he gets criticism, anybody could get criticism.

02:01:50 Yeah.

02:01:51 He told us one time he peed in a bottle during a game cause he had to go.

02:01:54 Have you ever done that?

02:01:55 It's probably harder for you cause you're not up in the booth.

02:01:57 Joe went there.

02:01:58 I don't think people need to know that.

02:02:00 Yeah.

02:02:01 Yeah.

02:02:02 We know we love Joe.

02:02:03 He's a friend of ours.

02:02:04 He's also addicted to hair plugs, so we should, we should, we should plug that for him.

02:02:06 Um, almost took his voice away.

02:02:08 Yeah.

02:02:09 Yeah.

02:02:10 He's got a big head.

02:02:11 He's got a big head.

02:02:12 He's got a big head.

02:02:13 He's got a big head.

02:02:14 Yeah.

02:02:15 He's got a big head.

02:02:16 It's pretty big.

02:02:17 It's big for it.

02:02:18 Yeah.

02:02:19 For a size.

02:02:20 Um, what, Oh, we got, Nick's fans are just like circling outside of our office being

02:02:23 like, Oh, Mike Breen's on the call.

02:02:25 We got to, so you have a lot of fans in this office.

02:02:28 Uh, if you call Bulls game next year, we'd love to have you come by.

02:02:32 Maybe you could call us playing five on five and uh, that would be probably the end of

02:02:35 your career.

02:02:36 But I promise I will come by.

02:02:39 It's, it's, I, you guys are so much fun.

02:02:42 I uh, I'm honored to be on.

02:02:44 Yeah.

02:02:45 All right.

02:02:46 Well, thanks so much, Mike.

02:02:47 We love you and uh, we're excited for the finals and for you to uh, give us great finals.

02:02:52 Thank you guys.

02:02:53 Thank you very much.

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02:04:03 Okay, Hank, finish this off, fire fest.

02:04:11 Nothing?

02:04:14 Nothing at all?

02:04:15 What about the John Daly challenge?

02:04:16 I mean the John Daly challenge.

02:04:17 The John Daly challenge.

02:04:18 No spoilers.

02:04:19 Yeah, don't spoil the video, Hank.

02:04:20 How did you guys feel the day after?

02:04:22 Terrible.

02:04:23 I felt concerningly good.

02:04:25 Yeah, I didn't feel that bad.

02:04:26 I want another cigarette.

02:04:28 Yeah.

02:04:29 I didn't sleep that night and I felt bad.

02:04:34 It's basically the John, not Memorial Day weekend, the John Daly challenge.

02:04:37 Yeah, it wasn't Memorial Day weekend.

02:04:39 Left me with a half of a six day hangover.

02:04:42 Really strings, hand up, out, nothing.

02:04:46 Do you think maybe the not sleeping had anything to do with the copious amounts of Adderall

02:04:50 you took before the challenge?

02:04:51 I did take a couple Adderalls.

02:04:52 He's prescribed.

02:04:53 Yeah, I am prescribed.

02:04:54 Art label.

02:04:55 And I don't really, yeah, whatever.

02:04:56 He just said we were drunk.

02:04:57 I don't really, yeah, whatever.

02:04:58 He just said we were driving up to the suburbs and he just said to me, I got to take some

02:05:03 Adderall because there's no way I'm going to smoke these cigarettes without it.

02:05:06 I don't like smoking cigs.

02:05:07 And so I had-

02:05:08 And then the next thing I know he's just like, I was like, you want to drive the car?

02:05:11 I tried to drink a couple beers because I don't really smoke cigs, but when I do, I'm

02:05:15 like very drunk.

02:05:16 So I was like, maybe I have to feel a little alcohol in me.

02:05:18 I only drink when I smoke.

02:05:19 What was I about to say?

02:05:20 Fuck.

02:05:21 Oh, and then I was also, Adderall makes me mute.

02:05:22 So I was like, fuck.

02:05:23 I was like, fuck.

02:05:24 Oh, and then I was also, Adderall makes me mute.

02:05:26 So I was like, was just a miserable fuck on the video and you guys were-

02:05:29 It makes you good at golf.

02:05:30 Yeah.

02:05:31 Tune in.

02:05:32 Yeah, I mean at times-

02:05:33 Don't, especially my mom.

02:05:34 At times you regret it.

02:05:35 So my Fyre Fest was going to be like, I miss smoking cigarettes.

02:05:36 I miss it a lot.

02:05:37 So Hank, you just had an awesome week.

02:05:38 This week's flown by.

02:05:39 Well, because it was only four days.

02:05:40 I know.

02:05:41 I feel like this is a shorter week than every other week.

02:05:42 Also at the time of this recording.

02:05:43 I know.

02:05:44 I feel like this is a shorter week than every other week.

02:05:45 I know.

02:05:46 I feel like this is a shorter week than every other week.

02:05:47 Also at the time of this recording.

02:05:54 Yeah, it's been three days.

02:05:55 Yeah, it's Thursday.

02:05:56 Flown by.

02:05:57 Tuesday, Wednesday, and most of Thursday.

02:06:00 Yeah.

02:06:01 That's a short week.

02:06:02 I mean, we had a fun week.

02:06:03 We did it.

02:06:04 We golfed on Monday.

02:06:05 We played roof ball today.

02:06:06 We got a pup punk tomorrow.

02:06:07 It's been an awesome week.

02:06:08 It's been a fun week.

02:06:09 It's been the best weather.

02:06:10 Like, today was the best weather possible.

02:06:13 There's not a cloud in the sky, 72 degrees.

02:06:15 Don't say that.

02:06:16 I saw the sun in the finals.

02:06:17 Like, life is good.

02:06:18 All right.

02:06:19 Yeah.

02:06:20 Good, Hank.

02:06:21 Happy for you.

02:06:22 I want you to be happy.

02:06:23 Thank you.

02:06:24 To a certain extent.

02:06:25 How's dunking going?

02:06:26 It's going well.

02:06:27 I trained.

02:06:28 I trained four times this week.

02:06:29 Well, three so far.

02:06:30 One more tomorrow.

02:06:31 I'll say it.

02:06:32 I'm getting a little nervous.

02:06:33 You do look like you're in better shape.

02:06:34 I found a trainer that has his master's degree in fitness.

02:06:35 Dunking?

02:06:36 Oh.

02:06:37 So he's like, "I'm going to dunk."

02:06:38 I'm like, "I'm going to dunk."

02:06:39 I'm like, "I'm going to dunk."

02:06:40 I'm like, "I'm going to dunk."

02:06:41 I found a trainer that has his master's degree in fitness.

02:06:42 Dunking?

02:06:43 Oh.

02:06:44 I found a trainer that has his master's degree in fitness.

02:06:45 Dunking?

02:06:46 Oh.

02:06:47 So he's like, "We're going through a program that is designed for me to dunk, and I'm doing

02:06:50 stuff that I never would do on my own, and it's working."

02:06:54 So when I think if I just stick to it.

02:06:55 Maybe I need to dunk.

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