This panel will tackle health care disparities faced by the Black community, and how advances in technology are creating opportunities for "techquity" in health care.The discussion will include a look at the problems within maternal care and mental health and examine how generative artificial intelligence will positively impact health outcomes and create opportunities for health startups looking to scale.
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00:00Now for our next conversation, please welcome back moderator Leanne Jackson and
00:06panelists Kadine Ellis
00:08Actress author health advocate and entrepreneur
00:11Dr. Angelica Jeter health equity scientist and expert impactful collaboration and dr
00:18Hassan a Teta CEO human care technologies and author
00:30Wow, what an impactful and important conversation we just had about DEI and
00:35This panel is also going to talk about something that's really important to our community
00:39That's in the same space as DEI, which is health equity
00:42that's an integral part of you know, the struggles that we have as black people and
00:47I want to talk to each of you a little bit about what we can do to try to
00:51Narrow the gap and try to to bring our community where they should be in terms of health disparities
00:57I am excited to be joined by Kadine Ellis actress author
01:02New York Times best-selling author Webby award-winning podcaster and entrepreneur
01:07We have dr. Angelica Jeter health equity scientist and a founder of impactful collaboration
01:14Consultancy and also dr. Hassan Teta who is CEO of human care technologies and author
01:19They're gonna talk we're gonna talk a little bit about like tech startup opportunities and in the health space AI a lot
01:24We're gonna have a wide-ranging conversation
01:26but I want to start with a question to all of you about like one of the biggest challenges in terms of the state of
01:32That health right now and what are the opportunities to try to raise the bar for that?
01:40Starting with me. Yes
01:42Well, I think it's very appropriate given the last panel to put things in perspective. So I'll start there
01:47So Hassan Teta CEO of human care technology. I'm a thoracic surgeon
01:51Heart and lung transplant surgeon specifically. I spent the last 25 years in the Navy
01:55Just retired last year
01:58When health is absent
02:01Wisdom cannot reveal itself art cannot manifest strength cannot fight
02:08and
02:10Intelligence becomes useless
02:12Intelligence cannot be implied and wealth becomes useless. So just think about that wealth becomes useless
02:17So if any of you have been sick in your life, just raise your hand
02:22Did anything else matter?
02:24No, so I think it's really important that this panel kind of focus on the importance of health because it really sets the table for everything
02:31else and
02:33I think when it comes to
02:36Health in the black community. It's particularly important because we already have
02:41such a
02:45Drawback, you know so many drawbacks and and we heard about those and and there's a constant sort of attack on
02:52Our progress and and health is fundamentally the basic
02:59Thing that you need to be able to appreciate anything else. All right, well
03:05intelligence your wisdom
03:07Enjoying life and I think I think that's what this conversation is going to be about. So I know dr. Judy
03:12You're the former chief health officer for Atlanta. So
03:16You have information on this from a personal perspective. Can you all hear me?
03:21Sorry, okay
03:23So the reality of what's happening as it relates to the status of our health in the city and in this country
03:31When you think about what's happening around a technology, for example
03:35If we aren't involved in the development of AI driven health care tools and resources
03:42Then we will be left behind and when I say left behind
03:46We're talking about the health disparities that we've seen for decades in our community
03:51the fact that black women are three times more likely to die due to pregnancy related causes and we know that 80% of
03:58Those deaths are preventable according to the CDC the fact that we know that 20% of our black
04:05friends and family members
04:07That our black friends and family members have experienced a mental health crisis or in need of mental health services
04:15but 38% of us don't access those services the fact that black children 20% of our black children are
04:23Experiencing food insecurities and we know that there is a need for us to address this because it impacts their health long term
04:30There are a number of factors
04:33That places at risk
04:35systemic factors racism
04:39Discrimination bias among providers so on and so forth and as it relates to AI
04:45technology if we aren't a part of the design
04:48Development insemination of these resources and tools then the gap around health disparities will widen
04:56Now Kadeen as a mom these sorts of issues impact you directly and on black women black men
05:01But I'd like you to talk a little W for boys. I mean your podcast. You're a multi-hyphenate and
05:06What is your personal thoughts and experience in this area?
05:11Let's get you the mic
05:14Thank you, Leanne just to kind of piggyback on my good friend over here with the statistics that she gave
05:20There was an 11 year analysis done that studied over 9 million hospital births
05:25And it showed that black women were 53% more likely to be at risk for death
05:32During or after childbirth due to a lot of socioeconomic disparities that exist within the health care system
05:38I am thankfully one of those women who after having two traumatic out of four births one in the hospital and one at home
05:47Realized that I'm fortunate to be here to tell my story because not every black woman is after my first son. I
05:55Suffered a very severe internal laceration and my vaginal wall and almost bled out
06:01And it required my husband to be the one to speak up for me to be my voice
06:05To advocate for me when I was in a position where I was crippled and I couldn't speak for myself
06:09Then fast-forward to my fourth son who I had a successful home birth at home with a midwife
06:14Who has happened to be black as well?
06:16And she loved on me and she empowered me to allow my body to do what it was supposed to do naturally
06:22Nine days later ended up with postpartum preeclampsia. I could have died
06:27My blood pressure was 203 over 197
06:31But she saw and she believed and she felt that something was wrong and she's the one that encouraged me
06:38So I say that to say if we have more arenas and more resources
06:43To let us know these are the opportunities available to us
06:46Like you said, we can't get left behind so that the gap widens anymore doing the research being our own advocates
06:53Those are the most important parts of making it through successfully
06:57When it comes to health care in general, but particularly black maternal health and to your point, it's um, yes
07:03But to your point of your story your your experiences. It's not even just socio-economic poverty
07:08It's not poverty that causes these disparities, especially in maternal health. So how can we dig deeper?
07:13How can we advocate as a community as in business as doctors to try to?
07:20Change what's the outcomes?
07:22Yeah, that's a great question. I mean, you know, I've been in the business for a long time
07:26Yeah, that's a great question
07:27I I want to just share this with the audience because it I think it answers the question segues into it the
07:36The other day I got an invitation from a patient that I operated on
07:41African-american woman she was 88 years old when I operated on her
07:45I just got her daughter to send me an invitation for a hundred birthday party
07:52Yeah, so
07:55It touched my heart literally and figuratively
07:57But we answered to you to your point
08:00I always talk about you know, three E's and I've been talking about this for years and and in my work as a heart surgeon
08:09empowerment
08:11Eating healthy and exercise, but I think that first one of empowerment
08:14We are at a time right now and we spoke a little bit about that with AI and certainly the other panelists
08:19That have come before us have spoken about that. We're on a
08:23Precipice of five super forces converging at a time that has never happened before
08:29We have immense superpower in computers. We have data and we have AI we have connectivity
08:35We have massive investments trillions of dollars literally going into this technology
08:40And then the final super force is people
08:43That's the most important super force and we are the people that are empowered because we have these devices as well
08:50The entrepreneurs in this room we have the ability to mitigate exactly what happened to you because we have
08:57Information and we have accessible information. We have to make sure it's good information and it has veracity and it has
09:04Fidelity, but we have access to information that is inherently potentially very powerful
09:10And there's like I said the convergence of these super forces can enhance the ability for us to achieve health
09:18Not health care health care is different from health health is a completely different state of being that's really what everyone is achieving
09:25Our health care system is a business make no mistake about it. It's a business to maintain health sick care
09:33Not give you health. You don't go to the hospital and give the money and get health
09:38If you've done that, let me show let me know where the hospital is. I'd like to go there
09:42Sign me up right exactly. So I think we have an opportunity. Yeah, dr. Jeter
09:47I know you talk a lot about generative AI both of you have that's that's the buzzword these days. What is the opportunity?
09:53We have people who are looking for options for opportunities for entrepreneurship
09:57What's out there in the health care space?
10:00There's so much
10:01When I think about what's going on as it relates to AI health care the AI health care industry
10:08it's projected to be a
10:11187 billion dollar industry as AI develops
10:15187 billion dollars and the reality is that we have to think about what problems need the solutions to
10:26Ensure that these resources are speaking to the needs that we have as it relates to our health
10:32Again, if we aren't in the room, then we get left behind because these products aren't created with us in mind
10:38And so when you think about a couple of key things ensuring access
10:44We all need access to the Internet. We need access to the technology as it's developed
10:49We need to ensure that people actually using these products
10:52Which means they need to be customized to fit our needs and our lived experiences
10:57We also need to think about sustained engagement with these tools and resources
11:02So if you can fill the gap as it relates to access
11:06Utilization and sustained engagement. There's an opportunity for you to be a part of this
11:12187 billion dollar industry. The other thing that I would want us to think about is
11:19Who is making the decision and how can you be a part of that?
11:23How can you be intentional about in getting engaged with these companies who are leading the way as it relates to AI?
11:29health care industry and technology
11:31I guarantee you that a lot of us are already behind and we need to embrace it because AI isn't going anywhere
11:39But there is an opportunity for us to inform the development of these tools and resources
11:46Is there a way for?
11:50The community to take advantage of what's already out there in terms of AI in terms of other
11:56the internet digital space to
11:59better their own health
12:01Absolutely. I'll add on to that and I'll pass it off. So
12:05We've been having a couple of conversations about the long-term
12:09Health effects of stress, right? How many of you in the past week have felt stressed? Just raise your hand
12:17That's more than half the world. How many of you have experienced burnout at least that is almost everyone in this room, right?
12:25I'll raise my hand as well. The reality is that
12:29We need to be able to think about our health sooner rather than later
12:35I was chief health officer of Atlanta
12:38I led the pandemic coordination team on behalf of Mayor Bottoms in the city to protect the health of everyone in this room if
12:44you live in Atlanta and
12:47During that time I woke up one morning and could not feel the right side of my face and my right arm began to go
12:53numb
12:54and
12:55I had to be rushed to the emergency room and
12:59The reality is that those warning signs for what I was experiencing started way before that moment
13:06black women between the ages of 24 and
13:0834 who have high blood pressure. They are more likely to experience a stroke as they age. I
13:15Was 34 years old when that happened to me
13:18We have to pay attention to what our body is telling us
13:22We can use AI technology to provide to find providers who look like us who understand us
13:28We can use AI technology to engage and find resources and get education and figure out what some of our signs and symptoms are
13:35We can use AI technology to connect with modern and traditional providers to ensure that we have a comprehensive approach
13:42to our health
13:44but we cannot use these tools without also connecting with our community without telling people what we
13:52need without having some real conversations and
13:55Tapping into ourselves and understanding exactly what we need
14:00Yeah, Kadeen, you know just to pivot just slightly
14:04But also in the same vein stress dealing with that as as a mom as a entrepreneur
14:10But also the mental health aspect which goes hand in hand. Yeah, how do you deal with that yourself?
14:16Do you have advice and counsel for our audience? Yeah for sure
14:20I think nowadays we hear mental health being thrown out whether it be in social media or forums like this
14:26It's not a catchphrase
14:27It's an actual thing and I think the beauty in being in forums like this where we can share our stories
14:35Is that there's a commonality and a relatability and a beauty in the struggle that we all share essentially
14:41so I think mental health for us as a
14:44Population should really exist as a safe space for us to be able to
14:48Love on each other to voice how we feel to not have judgment
14:52You know
14:53I've had moments with my husband at home where I'd be like tell me how you feel about this and then he'd tell me how
14:58He felt about it and I'd be like man. You're just complaining like that's not valid
15:02But you can't downplay how someone feels in that moment
15:06You have to say to yourself and say to that person
15:10This is a safe space for you to voice how you feel how you may not necessarily relate to it, but you don't judge it and
15:17Creating more forums and arenas like this for us to share our common stories
15:21Really allows us to connect more because you realize the things that you stress about from a mental perspective
15:26Sometimes you're not the anomaly. It's a common thing that we all deal with
15:30So really being able to disconnect, you know from life a little bit. That's something that helps me putting my phone down
15:36Sometimes it's as simple as that, you know, not having access to me as readily available
15:41Those are the things that I practice on a semi regular basis just to maintain that peace of mind that we all need
15:48Do you feel like the stigma has lessened in terms of reaching out if it's beyond like talking to a partner?
15:53Absolutely
15:53I think the stigma definitely has lifted a lot at least within our community because before we were just told to just
15:59Keep pushing forward, you know, this is the way yeah, or this is what we're supposed to do
16:04You know, you're supposed to just keep going. No days off team. No sleep. I'm team sleep. I'm team take a nap
16:10I'm team disconnect, you know, so if you know if the Wi-Fi is not working great because no one can get in touch with me
16:16so
16:17Leaning on those moments. I think are the God-given moments that he's tells us now is the time to reset a bit and focus on
16:24Yourself, and I'm interested in some like analog advice that we can give when we're talking about the AI
16:29We're talking about doing the research being your own advocate having others be an advocate for you
16:33But what are some also?
16:35Things that we can do that are sort of basic steps. You're a heart surgeon and you you
16:39Yeah, the chief health officer. I think I think you said you said it, right?
16:45You know all the tools that we're talking about AI. They're just tools right at the end of the day
16:49It really has to be
16:50Individual agency, I think that's very important, you know as a heart surgeon as a physician public health, you know official mom
16:58You always tell your children you tell your patients you tell your colleagues you have to take responsibility for your health
17:03And I always do that willing is not enough. You have to do you know, so
17:08It's really important from an analog standpoint that when you talk about what's the opportunity?
17:12I think again, we have this power of information, which is very important
17:16But you are all brilliant people sitting in this audience think about the gaps that you have noticed
17:22With with respect to that chasm that exists between health care and health in your community
17:28You have the ability to make a difference in that space
17:33One of the things I've dedicated
17:35Pretty much my whole career to is the art of human care and talking about how from an analog standpoint the one-on-one
17:43with the tools and technology really
17:46Taking care of humans in a way that does achieve health not just health care and perpetuating a sick care kind of
17:54Existence and I think that's really important
17:57empowering more physicians to have that
18:00Kind of ethos to have that mandate to have that responsibility and sometimes teaching them how to do that
18:06It's not inherently clear that will address mental health
18:09Most of the people that come to see the patients we know this right in doctors offices
18:14They're not they'll say my toe is hurting or my knees hurting, but they're just lonely
18:18They're depressed and they have other issues and in our fast pace
18:23Trying to see the patient rapidly turn them over
18:25We don't have the time to connect with another individual and that can address a lot of
18:31What's happening at least to identify that there could be issues that you can point them to the right resources at the end of the day?
18:37I always like to say, you know, we are human beings and we are very inherently social
18:42individuals and
18:43When it comes to health care providing that connection that ability to listen to be empathetic
18:50That's really powerful and we in the black community, I think have that that's why I took on that 88 year old patient
18:58I think many of my colleagues in fact was a cardiologist that told me yeah, I don't think she's an operative candidate
19:02I went in there and I met her and I could tell in interacting with her
19:07She's gonna be a good case. She's gonna be a good patient, you know
19:10And and so we need that and you have that power to do that
19:14You don't have to be a doctor to help others achieve health. It's very important
19:21Isn't this idea how to teach doctors to have a better bedside manner? Maybe
19:25Consulting on that some doctors. Obviously we have that here already. Dr. Jeter final thoughts and takeaways for the audience
19:33When I think about this conversation, I really love the fact that you shared that story because we know our life expectancy
19:40Specifically for black people is five to sometimes eight years
19:44By
19:45Less than other groups in this country. And so thank you for your work on that and caring for that patient my final thoughts
19:53Found the opportunity to support black-owned businesses innovators and leaders who are in this space and who are doing this work
20:00Especially as it relates to health. I recently had the opportunity to share my journey and behold magazine out of Fort Worth, Texas
20:07This magazine and the editor. I'm Lisa C Williams. She does
20:12Phenomenal work in sharing wellness resources and information and highlighting leaders who are in this space
20:19Another group is our village United based out of Atlanta, Georgia led by dr
20:24Key Howman, we need to find leaders
20:28Educators innovators who are doing this work and to support them and collaborate with them
20:32I guarantee you if you met three or three to five people
20:36Today you will be able to find someone who is doing the work that you're looking for
20:41But we have to be intentional about connecting and supporting each other
20:45The last thing that I will say is be intentional and take responsibility for your own health
20:51We cannot continue to operate and work in spaces that are toxic and exhausting and they deplete us
20:57We also when we become CEOs and founders because that was never my plan
21:02We have to be intentional about owning our health and making a very clear plan on how we
21:07Prioritize ourselves and put ourselves at the top of the to-do list
21:12Thank you. Dr. Jeter. Kadeena, you probably were gonna say something else
21:15But I also want you to give a shout out for the celery juice that you were talking about before
21:20Yeah, I still haven't tried it
21:21I was heavy on celery juice for a minute and then I did this pit blood panel that told me things I was allergic to
21:25And celery is kind of like moderate for me
21:28So I had to pace myself with it
21:30We're backing off the celery juice, y'all
21:32But to just close out first off
21:34Thank you all so much for the wealth of knowledge that you've had here on the panel
21:37I know I can say that I've learned a lot today as well
21:39But I just implore everyone to really like you said take your health into your own hands
21:44You cannot rely on anyone else to do it for you and in those spaces and those forums where we may not feel welcome
21:50At this point I'm kicking doors down. I need the information. I'm saying I'm here
21:55I'm no longer going to pass off certain ailments and certain chronic diseases as things that just run in the family. I
22:03Personally with my husband with our boys are really just trying to practice a day-to-day lifestyle
22:07So we're not waiting until health and health care have to merge but not in a fortunate way
22:13Thank you. Good points. Excellent points, but everybody I really appreciate it
22:17And as the panel said we implore all of you to be advocates for your own health when you're out there in the world
22:23Thank you
22:25You