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00:00Good evening, I'm Bret Baier, and this is a special edition of Special Report coming
00:04to you live from the United Center in Chicago, site of this week's Democratic National Convention.
00:10Democrats are portraying this event as a changing of the political guard.
00:15President Joe Biden with a symbolic handoff of his party leadership to his vice president,
00:21and now the Democratic nominee, Kamala Harris.
00:24She is riding a wave of momentum since the president's withdrawal from the campaign just
00:29four weeks ago.
00:30Republicans are hoping their nominee, former President Donald Trump, can cut into that
00:35momentum boost by portraying Harris as an extreme liberal pushing socialist ideas.
00:42We have FOX team coverage.
00:43Bret Hume and Karl Rove on set with me here in the United Center, break down what's online
00:48this week in Chicago.
00:49Brian Yennis is on the road with the Harris-Walsh bus tour in Pittsburgh, but we begin with
00:54senior White House correspondent Peter Ducey right here in Chicago.
00:57Good evening, Peter.
00:59Good evening, Bret.
01:00Right now, the last-minute preps are underway to make sure the Democratic Party all-stars
01:05who will speak on stage over the next couple nights all look and sound good.
01:10The party bosses want to make sure that these good vibes their side has had since replacing
01:15Biden with Harris continue.
01:20Top Harris surrogates want to make sure people watching the convention know the economic
01:24proposals are democratic, not communist.
01:27I don't think there's anything communist about wanting to make housing more affordable and
01:32prescription drugs more affordable.
01:33The Washington Post editorial board writes, the times demand serious economic ideas.
01:38Harris supplies gimmicks.
01:39Price gouging is not causing inflation, so why is the vice president promising to stamp
01:44it out?
01:45So you think it's smart policy, Governor?
01:47You know what?
01:48I think that any effort we make to keep more money in Americans' pockets is worth walking
01:54in the path.
01:56Four nights, four themes in Chicago.
01:59For the people, a bold vision for America's future, a fight for our freedoms, and for
02:03our future.
02:04Despite the lack of specific policy proposals, the Harris team says a lot more money is coming
02:08in now than it was for Biden.
02:10The money was drying up.
02:11Without money, there's no firepower.
02:12Recent polling reflects steady momentum for Harris and Walz.
02:16I think that this is a moment for us as an organizer.
02:19I think about it this way.
02:20This is what I call organizer gold.
02:23Protest organizers outside the convention are getting 270 groups together to protest
02:29the party's support for Israel aid.
02:32Tomorrow is what we're calling the event of the season.
02:35The convention's host, Illinois Governor J.B. Pritzker, believes his state is prepared.
02:39I expect that we're going to have peaceful protests, we're going to protect the protesters,
02:43but also protect all the people visiting, 50,000 people coming to Chicago, and the residents
02:47of Chicago.
02:48However, protesters are warning police not to redirect their march.
02:52If the city does not agree at step off, we will, we will, um, we will march the route
02:58and you know, the, listen, we have a philosophy in Chicago that the numbers dictate what the
03:06route is.
03:09High above this convention floor in the rafters where Bulls and Blackhawks players have their
03:14jerseys retired, there are already nets filled with tens of thousands of inflated balloons
03:22set to drop on the fourth and final night here.
03:25Brett.
03:26All right, Peter Ducey, down on the floor.
03:28Peter, thanks.
03:29Vice President Harris and Governor Walz are on a bus tour around the Pittsburgh area today.
03:33Pennsylvania, of course, is viewed as one of the most important of the swing states.
03:38The pair speaking at a high school to a high school football team just last hour, and they
03:43were joined by Pittsburgh Steelers Hall of Famer, Jerome Bettis.
03:46The bus.
03:47Walz is a former high school football coach.
03:50Former President Trump, meantime, appearing at a rally in Wilkes-Barre Saturday.
03:55Correspondent Brian Yennis is with the Harris-Walz campaign tonight in Pittsburgh.
03:59Brian.
04:00Good evening.
04:01Brett.
04:02Good evening.
04:03The campaign right now is the, the campaign right now is actually at a Sheetz gas station
04:12here in Pennsylvania before they make one more stop, we're told, before they head out
04:16to the DNC.
04:18Even last night, former President Trump acknowledged that whoever wins the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania
04:23is likely to win the whole thing.
04:26Anybody who's about beating down other people is a coward.
04:33This is what strength looks like.
04:35On a bus tour of Western Pennsylvania, Vice President Kamala Harris and Governor Tim Walz
04:40hit back at former President Trump after weeks of personal insults.
04:44We don't call each other names.
04:45We don't do it.
04:47And we don't use the leech fortunate amongst us as punchlines for our jokes because they're
04:50our neighbors.
04:51They're our neighbors.
04:52Walz though has been delivering his own punchline for weeks, attacking Trump and his running
04:57mate J.D. Vance as weird.
04:59That's not just weird.
05:00That's un-American.
05:01That is un-American.
05:02Harris and Walz made the comments while meeting with campaign volunteers at a phone bank in
05:07deep red Beaver County, one of several stops, including a firehouse and a high school in
05:11the pivotal battleground state.
05:13Just last night, Trump held a rally in Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania, where he lobbed more personal
05:17attacks at Harris.
05:18I'm a better looking person than Kamala.
05:22Have you heard her laugh?
05:23It's the laugh of a lunatic.
05:25Some Republicans are urging the former president to focus on the issues.
05:30President Trump can win this election.
05:32His policies are good for America.
05:35And if you have a policy debate for president, he wins.
05:38Donald Trump, the provocateur, the showman, may not win this election.
05:45Pennsylvania is seen as a must-win state for both campaigns.
05:49Its 19 electoral votes are the most of any battleground state, and early voting begins
05:53September 16th.
05:54The economy could be the deciding issue this election.
05:57Pennsylvania is the second largest producer of natural gas in the nation.
06:01Trump is focusing in on Harris' flip-flopping on fracking.
06:04After campaigning as anti-fracking in 2019, her advisors now say she's for it.
06:09All of a sudden, a couple of months ago, she said, oh, I'd love to have fracking.
06:13No, she won't have fracking.
06:17Trump and his running mate, J.D. Vance, will be counter-programming the first night of
06:21the DNC by campaigning, you guessed it, right here in Pennsylvania.
06:25Again, to reiterate, people here in Pennsylvania can cast their first ballots just 29 days
06:31from today.
06:32Brett?
06:34Brett?
06:35Brian Yindis in Pittsburgh.
06:36Brian, thanks.
06:37No.
06:38There's a duality to the nature of democracy.
06:43On the one hand, incredible strength when it is intact, what it does for its people
06:52to protect and defend their rights, their liberty, their freedom.
06:58Incredibly strong and incredibly fragile.
07:04Vice President Harris and Governor Walz on the trail today in Pennsylvania, talking there
07:09about democracy.
07:10Let's get some perspective tonight about what comes ahead.
07:13Fox News Chief Political Analyst Britt Hulme and Karl Rove, former Deputy Chief of Staff
07:17to President George W. Bush.
07:19Good evening, gentlemen.
07:20Here we are at another convention.
07:22Britt, this is a convention that it seems at the beginning the momentum was this is
07:27not President Biden.
07:29This is not former President Trump.
07:31But now you had this economic launch that arguably didn't go as planned, at least in
07:36the mainstream media, if you look at it, all the criticism.
07:40And some walk back today.
07:42What do you think about this push, this momentum heading into this convention?
07:45Well, I think it has been diminished somewhat by the fact that the economic proposals that
07:49were that were outlined laid an egg, particularly the one about trying to deal with deal with
07:55what would amount to price controls to prevent so-called price gouging.
07:59And the surrogates didn't want to talk about that one.
08:01They talked about the housing and they talked about the drug.
08:04They didn't mention it.
08:05It didn't do well.
08:06And I think, you know, the consensus among economists for a very long time has been that
08:11price controls, which is what you'd have to use to suppress the prices, don't work and
08:16lead to bigger problems.
08:17So I think the momentum has been breaked a little bit.
08:20And it could be just could be maybe too much to hope for, that our colleagues in the media
08:26will now decide to take a somewhat more searching look at the planet as quickly here, Carl,
08:33to stick to joy, to stick to vague, to not get specific, especially after that launch
08:38on Friday.
08:39My my sense is, first of all, we don't know a lot about her.
08:42She may be the vice president for four years, but how many people know that, you know, there
08:46can be a lot of people at the end of this four days that are going to know she started
08:48out working at McDonald's.
08:50They're going to humanize her.
08:51They're going to tell her story.
08:53And that's really important for no matter how well we in the in the political side of
08:58things think we the American people know about a prospective candidate.
09:02It's the human touches that matter at a convention that you get introduced.
09:05I mean, 1988, George H.W. Bush, World War Two pilot 2000.
09:11This was a big concern we had.
09:13How about how do you depict George Bush as the effective governor of Texas who was able
09:17to work with Republicans and Democrats tonight, tomorrow night and the night after?
09:22We're going to particularly hear about her as her life story.
09:26Yeah.
09:27And then the goodbye farewell, if you will, to the nominee president.
09:30That's going to be short and sweet, I suspect.
09:32I don't think this convention wants to linger on.
09:36Let us tell everybody how wonderful you are now.
09:37Get out of here.
09:38Hit the road.
09:39The band's cooking up.
09:40We're going to be here all week.
09:41Gentlemen.
09:42Thanks.
09:44Here's some other headlines tonight.
09:45Secretary of State Antony Blinken will use his ninth diplomatic mission to the Middle
09:49East since the start of the Israel Hamas war to press for a quick conclusion of an elusive
09:54ceasefire agreement.
09:56Blinken arrived in Israel today before what mediators have billed as a last push to reach
10:01a deal that would take place in Cairo later this week.
10:04So far, no word.
10:05Hamas is moving.
10:07He will meet with top Israeli officials Monday before traveling to Egypt Tuesday.
10:12Ukrainian officials say troops have deployed and destroyed a key bridge in Russia's Kursk
10:17region.
10:18They struck a second one nearby.
10:20The bridge attacks were apparently aimed at thwarting a Russian counterpush in Kursk.
10:25Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky says the Kursk operation aims to create a buffer
10:30zone between Russia and Ukraine.
10:32Back here, Tropical Storm Ernesto has strengthened into a hurricane again.
10:36It turned away from Bermuda and is headed further out into the northeastern Atlantic.
10:41It has sent powerful swells toward the East Coast, generating strong ripcord currents
10:46up and down.
10:47And there are reports of significant delays at some of the nation's airports today.
10:51Ground stops due to thunderstorms at Westchester County Airport in New York and Newark in New
10:56Jersey.
10:57Weather is also affecting takeoffs in Atlanta, Boston and elsewhere.
11:01Clear here in Chicago, though.
11:03Up next, Democrats flip the script on age and that issue in the presidential race.
11:08And later, we go inside the numbers with political consultant Alex Castellanos and
11:12former Obama economic advisor Robert Wolf.
11:23Welcome back to Special Report in the United Center in Chicago.
11:25Tonight, we take a look at our new Fox Power rankings, concentrating on voter issues.
11:32Republicans are still leading on two of the three top issues that matter to voters.
11:36But Democrats now have a large advantage when it comes to their nominees age.
11:49Since Vice President Kamala Harris replaced President Biden on the Democratic ticket,
11:52supporters have shown enthusiasm about their new younger nominee.
11:57Joe, are you watching?
11:58Do you hear this clapping?
11:59Can you see it?
12:00I'm watching.
12:01I'm watching.
12:02I know.
12:03In our first issues tracker, former President Trump's largest lead on any quality or issue
12:10was age.
12:11He had a 21 point advantage over Biden on that.
12:14But now the roles are reversed, with Harris more than doubling former President Trump's
12:19previous advantage.
12:20Has that unity and that enthusiasm surprised him at all?
12:25He's not surprised.
12:27That's what he wanted.
12:28That's what he expected.
12:29But the former president has said the issue was never about President Biden's age.
12:32It's a competence thing.
12:34And they always have me as his age.
12:36I'm four years younger.
12:37Republicans still have the advantage when it comes to the U.S. economy.
12:41Our issues tracker shows former President Trump's advantage has slipped slightly from
12:46a few months ago.
12:47Together, we will build what I call an opportunity economy.
12:53Vice President Harris unveiled her economic platform Friday.
12:56An economy where everyone can compete and have a real chance to succeed.
13:02It includes a proposal for controlling prices of groceries, a $25,000 down payment for some
13:09first time home buyers and tax breaks for families.
13:13Because look, the bills add up.
13:15Former President Trump reacted to the Harris plan, saying it would make things more expensive
13:20and called her grocery price controls initiative communist price caps.
13:26Everything Kamala Harris says is her speeches is a lie.
13:30You know, she gets up and just lies.
13:32I was watching her yesterday.
13:34She talked about all the taxes I was going to raise a Trump tax on gas, a Trump tax on
13:39food, a Trump tax on clothing.
13:43He's going to attach your wife.
13:44He's going to attach your husband.
13:48And I'm saying I never said any of that.
13:51They make it up.
13:52Former President Trump's economic agenda includes increasing tariffs on trade partners and cutting
13:57corporate tax rates.
13:59Donald Trump fights for billionaires and large corporations.
14:02Of our top three issues to voters, Democrats are favored on abortion.
14:07Harris maintains a double digit advantage over the former president.
14:10Across our nation, we have been witnessing a full on assault on hard won, hard fought
14:19freedoms and fundamental rights.
14:21It's an issue that's expected to be mentioned frequently throughout the Democratic National
14:25Convention, which is being held in a region where abortion access is limited.
14:30Now, in more than 20 states, there is a Trump abortion ban.
14:36Illinois is one of just a few states in the Midwest with protections for abortions.
14:41Every state that it borders now has abortion restrictions.
14:48Since the end of Roe v. Wade, states neighboring those with bans have sharp increases in abortions.
14:54Illinois reported a rise of 71 percent from 2020 to 2023.
14:59Patients from out of state accounted for 69 percent of that.
15:03When I became governor, I made sure that we protected reproductive rights here in the
15:07state of Illinois, not just for people in the state, but also people who are escaping
15:12their states and need an oasis.
15:14When it comes to immigration, the former president has maintained his advantage on
15:18this issue.
15:19But Harris has gained some ground, according to our issues tracker.
15:22I was attorney general of a border state.
15:26I went after the transnational gangs, the drug cartels and human traffickers.
15:32I prosecuted them in case after case.
15:35And I won.
15:36Harris has faced criticism over her past comments on immigration policy.
15:40We're not going to treat people who are undocumented across the border as criminals.
15:44Would you be committing to close the immigration detention centers?
15:50Absolutely.
15:51On day one, on day one, her campaign is defending her past work and is promising to increase
15:57security at the border.
15:59As president, she will hire thousands more border agents and crack down on fentanyl and
16:04human trafficking.
16:05Former President Trump continues to take a tough stance on immigration, promising mass
16:09deportations and an end to birthright citizenship.
16:13It's going to be called a Trump mass deportation because we have no choice.
16:18We have no choice.
16:20Harris campaign officials say she is not pursuing the same policy she did in 2019, but she's
16:26also putting distance between herself and President Biden on the unpopular parts of
16:30his administration.
16:32Joe Biden hates her, OK?
16:36Hates her.
16:37She's going to make one hell of a president.
16:39Joe Biden hates her.
16:42This was an overthrow of a president.
16:46This was an overthrow.
16:49Talk with our analysts about some of these issues in a bit.
16:51Four weeks ago, of course, President Biden was planning to accept his party's nomination
16:55right here in Chicago and square off against former President Trump.
16:58Once again, things obviously much different tonight.
17:01We'll go live to the White House.
17:03Plus, political experts Robert Wolf and Alex Castellanos on the Harris path to victory.
17:08Whether former President Trump has some problems in swing states or not next.
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18:53Tonight we take a look at our new Fox Power rankings, concentrating on voter issues.
18:59Democrats are still leading on two of the three top issues that matter to voters.
19:04But Democrats now have a large advantage when it comes to their nominees age.
19:08The longest time I was too damn young because I was only about 29 when I got elected.
19:14Now I'm too damn old.
19:16Since Vice President Kamala Harris replaced President Biden on the Democratic ticket,
19:20supporters have shown enthusiasm about their new younger nominee.
19:24Joe, are you watching?
19:25Do you hear this clapping?
19:26Can you see it?
19:27I'm watching.
19:28I'm watching.
19:29I know.
19:30In our first issues tracker, former President Trump's largest lead on any quality or issue
19:38was age.
19:39He had a 21 point advantage over Biden on that, but now the roles are reversed with
19:44Harris more than doubling former President Trump's previous advantage.
19:48Has that unity and that enthusiasm surprised him at all?
19:53He's not surprised.
19:54That's what he wanted.
19:55That's what he expected.
19:56But the former president has said the issue was never about President Biden's age.
20:00It's a competence thing and they always have me as his age.
20:03I'm four years younger.
20:05Republicans still have the advantage when it comes to the U.S. economy, but our issues
20:09tracker shows former President Trump's advantage has slipped slightly from a few months ago.
20:14Together, we will build what I call an opportunity economy.
20:21Vice President Harris unveiled her economic platform Friday.
20:24An economy where everyone can compete and have a real chance to succeed.
20:30It includes a proposal for controlling prices of groceries, a $25,000 down payment for some
20:36first time home buyers and tax breaks for families.
20:40Because look, the bills add up.
20:43Former President Trump reacted to the Harris plan, saying it would make things more expensive
20:48and called her grocery price controls initiative communist price caps.
20:53Everything Kamala Harris says is her speeches is a lie.
20:57You know, she gets up and just lies.
20:59I was watching her yesterday.
21:01She talked about all the taxes I was going to raise.
21:03A Trump tax on gas, a Trump tax on food, a Trump tax on clothing.
21:10He's going to attach your wife.
21:12He's going to attach your husband.
21:16And I'm saying I never said any of that.
21:19They make it up.
21:20Former President Trump's economic agenda includes increasing tariffs on trade partners and cutting
21:25corporate tax rates.
21:26Donald Trump fights for billionaires and large corporations.
21:30Of our top three issues to voters, Democrats are favored on abortion.
21:34Harris maintains a double digit advantage over the former president.
21:38Across our nation, we have been witnessing a full on assault on hard won, hard fought
21:46freedoms and fundamental rights.
21:49It's an issue that's expected to be mentioned frequently throughout the Democratic National
21:52Convention, which is being held in a region where abortion access is limited.
21:58Now, in more than 20 states, there is a Trump abortion ban.
22:03Illinois is one of just a few states in the Midwest with protections for abortions.
22:08Every state that it borders now has abortion restrictions.
22:15Since the end of Roe v. Wade, states neighboring those with bans have sharp increases in abortions.
22:21Illinois reported a rise of 71 percent from 2020 to 2023.
22:26Patients from out of state accounted for 69 percent of that.
22:30When I became governor, I made sure that we protected reproductive rights here in the
22:34state of Illinois, not just for people in the state, but also people who are escaping
22:40their states and need an oasis.
22:42When it comes to immigration, the former president has maintained his advantage on
22:45this issue, but Harris has gained some ground, according to our issues tracker.
22:50I was attorney general of a border state.
22:53I went after the transnational gangs, the drug cartels and human traffickers.
22:59I prosecuted them in case after case, and I won.
23:04Harris has faced criticism over her past comments on immigration policy.
23:08We're not going to treat people who are undocumented across the border as criminals.
23:11Would you be committing to close the immigration detention centers?
23:17Absolutely.
23:18On day one, on day one, her campaign is defending her past work and is promising to increase
23:25security at the border.
23:26As president, she will hire thousands more border agents and crack down on fentanyl and
23:31human trafficking.
23:32Former President Trump continues to take a tough stance on immigration, promising mass
23:36deportations and an end to birthright citizenship.
23:40It's going to be called a Trump mass deportation because we have no choice.
23:46We have no choice.
23:48Harris campaign officials say she is not pursuing the same policy she did in 2019, but she's
23:53also putting distance between herself and President Biden on the unpopular parts of
23:58his administration.
23:59Joe Biden hates her, OK?
24:03Hates her.
24:04She's going to make one hell of a president.
24:06Joe Biden hates her.
24:09This was an overthrow of a president.
24:14This was an overthrow.
24:16Talk with our analysts about some of these issues in a bit.
24:18Four weeks ago, of course, President Biden was planning to accept his party's nomination
24:22right here in Chicago and square off against former President Trump.
24:26Once again, things obviously much different tonight.
24:28We'll go live to the White House.
24:30Plus, political experts Robert Wolf and Alex Castellanos on the Harris path to victory.
24:36Whether former President Trump has some problems in swing states or not next, look at Delaware
24:42on the big screen there with this was supposed to be President Biden's convention.
24:46His state, Delaware, with his nomination to a second term instead.
24:50He will speak to the convention tomorrow night in a message about transition and legacy as
24:55he hands the baton, the leadership of the party to Vice President Kamala Harris.
25:00Lucas Tomlinson is on the North Lawn of the White House tonight with the latest.
25:03Good evening, Lucas.
25:04Good evening, Brett.
25:06President Biden has just returned here to the White House to put his finishing touches
25:09on the speech he plans to give tomorrow night in Chicago.
25:12And the DNC plans to honor him with a video showcasing his time here in Washington, beginning
25:18when Richard Nixon was president.
25:22It's a well-deserved tribute to to the president.
25:25President Biden dropped out of the race nearly a month ago.
25:29Until then, he was looking forward to speaking Thursday night, not Monday, to accept his
25:34party's nomination once again.
25:36New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd, writing, Biden went from looking forward to getting
25:41back on the campaign trail to gone in one weekend with the handprints of Barack Obama,
25:47Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries on the president's back.
25:52How could Biden not be hurt?
25:55Biden will now be looking to shore up his legacy, beginning with a potential ceasefire
25:59and end to the war in Gaza.
26:03The USS Abraham Lincoln strike group now in the Indian Ocean continues to sail to the
26:08Middle East and will arrive later this week.
26:12Some Republicans unconvinced the increased American firepower sent to the region is stopping
26:18Iran and its proxies from carrying out another major attack on Israel.
26:23I think it has everything to do with Israel and Bibi Netanyahu.
26:27I think it's Bibi that is deterring Iran right now.
26:31With the economy, another area of apparent daylight between Vice President Harris and
26:35President Biden is the war in Gaza.
26:38I also expressed with the prime minister my serious concern about the scale of human suffering
26:45in Gaza, including the death of far too many innocent civilians.
26:52When President Biden returned, he says he's not giving up on that ceasefire deal and says
26:56one is still possible.
26:58Vice President Kamala Harris and her running mate have still not articulated a foreign
27:01policy platform.
27:02Perhaps something we'll hear this week in Chicago.
27:05Brett.
27:06Lucas Thomas and live in the North Lawn.
27:08Lucas, thanks.
27:09Let's talk about where the race stands right now.
27:10Joining us tonight here in the United Center, political consultant Alex Castellanos and
27:14Robert Wolf, CEO of 32 Advisors, former economic advisor to President Obama.
27:19Gentlemen, thanks for being here.
27:21Thanks for kicking off, Robert.
27:23I know you expressed I saw a post.
27:25You're excited about the week.
27:28How do you see it as far as characterizing?
27:30Is it an introduction or reintroduction of Kamala Harris here?
27:34I would say it's a passing of the torch.
27:36I think that you mentioned about President Biden before the perfect storm hit him.
27:41The polls went down, the electoral map brought in, the donors went to the sideline.
27:47And for the most part, the best way to beat President Trump right now, former President
27:51Trump, was bring in Vice President Kamala Harris.
27:54I think it's going to be part introduction.
27:56I think it's also part getting the whole coalition back and excited.
28:00It seems like the momentum's been with her.
28:02But this is still kind of a honeymoon period.
28:05And I think it will stay that way, as some of your guests said earlier.
28:09And I think I've known Kamala since the vice president since 2006.
28:13So I'm excited for everyone to get to know her, because I think she's a great person
28:18will be a great leader for the country.
28:19Alex, as you look at the swing state polls, these are the average of polls than The New
28:25York Times, Siena College will put up Arizona.
28:29They show a lead for Kamala Harris and Georgia.
28:32They show a lead for the former president there.
28:34You see North Carolina with a Harris lead and Nevada very tight.
28:38It depends on the poll.
28:39Really, we've seen a pretty tight in these swing states across the board.
28:43Very tight.
28:44And some of it right now, it's not so much who she is, it's who she isn't.
28:48She's not Trump.
28:49She's not Joe Biden.
28:50Is she the future?
28:52This country is so hungry for change and something better.
28:55We've been through a rough time, COVID, economic collapse nearly.
29:00So can she be the future?
29:02This is her week to reintroduce herself.
29:06Is she the moderate?
29:07She's been in the last, oh, I don't know, 24 hours, the reinvention.
29:12Or is she really a woman of the left that she's been her entire life long?
29:17She's confused those things.
29:19But in these swing states, Georgia, for example, Donald Trump, that's a state that's got a
29:26Republican House, legislature and governor.
29:29A regular Republican would be up 10 points in Georgia.
29:33But Donald Trump has alienated some of those suburban Republicans and independents.
29:38Because of his feud with Governor Kemp.
29:40Because of his feud with Governor Kemp, but also because of the way he's handling the
29:44attack on Kamala Harris.
29:46That's very personal.
29:47A lot of women don't like that.
29:49So, you know, Trump wants to take this to a different level.
29:54His issues are dull.
29:56His strategy is not issues and ideology.
29:59It's entertainment that will drive a narrative that will change the world.
30:03And he hasn't quite figured out how to handle her yet.
30:06Just to interject there, I mean, one thing we should understand, one, the two senators
30:10from Georgia, Warnock and Ossoff, are Democrats.
30:14The lieutenant governor, Jeff, we buy in the seats.
30:20And the lieutenant governor, former Jeff Duncan, is supporting nominee Vice President Kamala
30:27Harris.
30:28So we do have some seniority going her way.
30:31The other thing I would say on the swing states is if you think about the infrastructure and
30:36the Chips Act that was passed under the Biden-Harris administration, there's the Arizona Chips
30:43factory being built.
30:44They're the Wisconsin semiconductor.
30:47There's the Georgia Battery Center.
30:48I mean, they are doing things in the swing states that are making a huge difference for
30:53hardworking Americans.
30:55That's a positive.
30:56OK.
30:57Anyway, slice it.
30:58Let me I know you spent a lot of time answering questions about the price control as it's
31:02as it's characterized by Republicans and critics.
31:05The surrogates who went to the Sunday shows wanted to talk about housing and they wanted
31:09to talk about medical reductions.
31:12I want to play a soundbite.
31:13This is on Meet the Press with Governor Whitmer asked about specifically illegal immigration
31:18and other specifics.
31:19Take a listen.
31:21He signed into law initiatives allowing undocumented immigrants to apply for driver's licenses,
31:28quality free for free tuition at public universities and enroll in the state's free health care
31:34program for low income residents.
31:37Would you like to see the Harris administration adopt those same policies, governor?
31:42Well, I can tell you, you know, Tim Walz is a pragmatic guy.
31:46He's a Midwesterner just like me.
31:48And I think some of the wonderful things he's done in Minnesota resonate with, you know,
31:53Americans in all states.
31:55We know that when you give when you provide free breakfast and lunch for all the school
32:01kids in your state, you're saving parents eight hundred and fifty bucks a year per student
32:06just on the grocery bill.
32:07So I think what you see in Tim Walz is a pragmatist who wants to make sure that we
32:13are a beacon that people come to.
32:15You need to come legally.
32:17I mean, the question was about illegal immigrants in public schools, free tuition, free health
32:23care.
32:24I mean, she says he's a pragmatist.
32:27I don't I'm not sure that that sells across the Midwest.
32:30I mean, here's the way I would frame it.
32:32One, and I'm going to I'm not pivoting here.
32:34I will come back to it.
32:36I think the support of the Lankford conservative senator from Oklahoma, his bipartisan immigration
32:43reform would have been the best plan for immigration.
32:48It was holistic.
32:49It was about asylum.
32:50It was about border security.
32:52With respect to Tim Walz, I'm getting to know him, too, over the last 10 days.
32:57You know, I know Shapiro.
32:58Well, I know Kelly.
33:00Well, I did not really know him.
33:02So I'm just getting to learn him.
33:03I mean, you know me.
33:04I've been on the show for eight years.
33:05I'm a moderate.
33:06I'm a capitalist.
33:07So a lot of the things that are on the far left, they don't sit well with me.
33:11A lot of things on the far right probably didn't sit well with Alex.
33:14I think that this this nomination is going to be when one on the center left center right.
33:21But I will.
33:22That's quick.
33:23That's quickly.
33:24I do.
33:25That's Alex.
33:26This is how this week is going to go.
33:27Right.
33:28I mean, to make sure it doesn't go down that road.
33:30This they're trying to get away from old leftist Kamala as fast as they can.
33:34The problem is Kamala herself has reembraced it with price controls, with their choice
33:40of wall.
33:41So which Kamala is going to show up?
33:43It's going to be a fun week.
33:45We've got a fun week ahead.
33:46We'll have you guys back.
33:47We really appreciate it.
33:49Up next, the panel on the themes of this Democratic National Convention.