Sometimes You Gotta Hate Watch Your Own Team
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00:00Fight Club was wild. It had a weird ending to that movie. Fight Club, that is.
00:04It did have an odd ending.
00:06It was very, very, very odd. Fight Club, that is.
00:09Look, we're going to talk some football here.
00:11Giants, they win against the White Sox. Woo-hoo!
00:14I know.
00:14They won game over 500.
00:17Were people outraged online about Lamont Wade Jr. running?
00:20Yeah, it's just, it wasn't even about Lamont.
00:22It was about, like, the team rolling him out there.
00:25But everybody's happy!
00:27I mean, it's just...
00:27I'm not!
00:28We just ripped the hell out of Marco Luciano for not sprinting down the line.
00:33Well, he's got plenty of evidence of not hustling.
00:35No, no, I'm not here to defend Luciano.
00:37I mean, in the field, I get Kipe on the call.
00:39I still have it in my head.
00:40Whenever I think about urgency...
00:42Come on! Now! Urgent! Gotta go now! Quick!
00:45It's like, damn, Kipe! Damn!
00:48Them dudes didn't drink, man.
00:50It's not about Lamont.
00:51It was just about, like, just the whole thing, dude.
00:54And I'm just...
00:56The problem is I'm a sucker.
00:57I'm like an addict, you know what I mean?
00:58Like, because tonight, what's going to happen?
00:59I'm going to turn it back on and I'm going to hate watch.
01:02Yeah, I can't hate watch.
01:03I just, I gotta...
01:05You know, there's so much hate in the world these days.
01:07We got to get it open for you, by the way.
01:11Who you hate today by Joe Chaspe.
01:14You let the hate flow, bro.
01:15No, I'm not a hater.
01:17I'm not a hater.
01:18I don't like to hate.
01:19I'm a player, baby.
01:21I like...
01:22See, I prefer the dark side.
01:24I like the dark characters.
01:25I like Scarface.
01:26I like Tony Soprano.
01:26Oh, I love those characters, too.
01:27I like Darth Vader.
01:28I love those characters, too.
01:29You know, I like the Emperor.
01:29I love those characters, too.
01:30I was rooting for the Empire.
01:31But I don't like...
01:33I want to know.
01:34888-957-957.
01:36So, before we get into this.
01:37I like villains.
01:38I want to know from fans out there.
01:39Hartman.
01:39How many of you hate watch?
01:43And how much energy does it take to hate watch?
01:47I want to know, how many people hate watch?
01:50Hate watch sports.
01:51That's the one area where I'm just like,
01:52I'm just going to be open-minded.
01:54I'm going to laugh a little bit.
01:56I want to watch some great athleticism.
01:57If I don't see it, then, you know...
01:58Do you not hate watch James Harden?
02:01I don't hate watch James Harden.
02:02I just laugh at James Harden.
02:03I don't hate.
02:04Be like, oh, I want James Harden to fail.
02:06I just know it's coming.
02:07And so, I'm watching James Harden, for example,
02:09and I'm like, how's it going to happen this time around?
02:11It's kind of like the Super Bowl in Las Vegas.
02:13When the Niners got the interception...
02:14But you're rooting for failure.
02:15No, I wasn't rooting for failure.
02:17When the Niners intercepted that pass from the Holmes
02:19at the start of the third quarter,
02:20and they didn't score.
02:21In my mind, I was thinking,
02:23how are they going to lose this game?
02:26In what fashion are they going to lose this game?
02:28Because they're going to lose,
02:29but how are they going to lose?
02:31And so, with James Harden,
02:33I'm thinking...
02:34By the way, he's in China right now
02:35for Team Adidas on his Adidas tour.
02:37They love him in China.
02:38But I'm watching James Harden,
02:41and I'm thinking, how is he going to fail this time?
02:43Yeah, that seems very similar to hate watching.
02:45No, it's not hating.
02:46It's just sitting back laughing, like,
02:47babe, babe, I'm like,
02:48Anna, somehow, someway, James Harden is going to blow this.
02:51Yeah, you're salivating at the opportunity
02:53to see someone's failure.
02:54No, I'm not salivating.
02:56I'm just knowing that, hey,
02:58something's going to happen.
02:59It always does.
03:00Chris Paul, Russell Westbrook,
03:03at times, LeBron, James Harden.
03:05The NBA's got a lot of guys
03:06that I was, like, rooting against.
03:08The guy I hate watching against.
03:09I root against.
03:10Waiting for the failure.
03:11Yeah, I root against, but I just don't,
03:12you know, they ball out, they ball out.
03:15The Cowboys.
03:16We have a pull-up.
03:17The Dodgers.
03:18You just know it's going to happen.
03:19Kershaw.
03:20Like, I love watching Kershaw,
03:21and I love, my favorite of the Kershaw's
03:24is this Kershaw.
03:27Bent down.
03:29Can you describe this Kershaw?
03:30As I take my hat off, and I stick my head down.
03:32We're on live radio.
03:33Show you my bald spot.
03:34Auditory medium.
03:35Yeah.
03:37Do you ever hate watch your own team?
03:38That's our poll on YouTube right now.
03:40Do you ever, ever, ever
03:45hate watch your own team?
03:47Someway, you're going to blow this, right?
03:49You know what I'm saying?
03:49Just some way, you just know that some guys are going to fail.
03:53And it's not choke.
03:54I guess you could say choking right now,
03:56but like, I don't, I don't.
03:57I just, sports make me happy.
03:59Well, of course.
04:00Even the failures make me happy.
04:02Like, you know what I'm saying?
04:02It just, it just makes me, I just get a good,
04:05I'm in my own world.
04:06I'm away from reality.
04:07I'm away from everything that's happening in society.
04:10Not just locked in.
04:11Somebody's going to lose.
04:12Somebody's going to win.
04:13No doubt about it.
04:14But hate watching takes an extra energy to be negative.
04:17Like, oh, I need to miss this shot.
04:19Like, I can't do that.
04:19I don't think it's that sadistic.
04:21I think it's just like, oh my God.
04:22Like, for example, Mahomes, this guy.
04:24I'm just, I'm watching him and I'm amazed.
04:27And I'm also like, I'm just so sick of this guy.
04:29Like, I hate watch him.
04:30See, I can't get sick of him.
04:32As much as I don't like the Kansas City Chiefs right now,
04:36I want to watch every snap of Mahomes' career.
04:38I don't want to miss a snap.
04:39Dabo.
04:39It's just like, it's like Michael Jordan.
04:41I didn't want to miss a dribble.
04:42I didn't want to miss a shot.
04:44LeBron.
04:44You know, LeBron, for a long time, was like, I don't want to miss it.
04:47For a long time, I watched a lot of LeBron.
04:49The Cleveland days, the Heat days.
04:51I couldn't miss a game.
04:52I couldn't miss an article.
04:53I couldn't miss anything.
04:55They became the enemy and I was just like, all right, you know,
04:58Warriors all day.
05:00But I couldn't, but like, with Mahomes and Brady,
05:02I could not miss a snap.
05:04I needed more.
05:06I'm addicted to it.
05:07Like, watching greatness and just thinking like, how is he going to get it done this time?
05:11Like, we're watching that Chiefs-Bills playoff game.
05:14He just knew what that second half was like.
05:15Somehow, some way, Mahomes is going to get it done.
05:17Yeah, see, as being on the other end of all these little Mahomes Super Bowl victories,
05:24I'm now so sick of that guy.
05:25Every, it's just, he's awesome.
05:27I don't turn away, but he's in like the Emmitt Smith zone, Michael Irvin zone,
05:31where it's like, I hate those guys.
05:32I just, I can't.
05:33No, I hear you.
05:34The guy drives me crazy because he's so good.
05:36Yeah, like, he's so good, I hate him.
05:38He's so good, I love it, actually.
05:40I'm just like, when you're watching great, like, we've been blessed to watch Steph Curry be great around this market.
05:45We've been blessed to watch Barry Bonds.
05:47There's something about watching the greats of the greats.
05:50There's just something that I just, I kind of love it.
05:53No, I'm with you.
05:54Everyone loves, that's why we love sports.
05:56But also, like, sign me up for hate-watching Dylan Brooks, right?
06:00You know what I mean?
06:01Like, I love watching him fail in misery.
06:04I kind of love watching Memphis collapse, just in general, right?
06:07I just, I'm here for it.
06:09Exactly, I'm here for it.
06:11I try not to like you.
06:13Who's that?
06:14Who's that?
06:16You know, like, the Seahawks.
06:17You didn't hate-watch the Seahawks?
06:21I didn't hate-watch the Seahawks, I just didn't like them.
06:23That Super Bowl with them and New England, I never hate-watched harder.
06:27Oh, no, I rooted against them.
06:29But it was also, I was also sitting there thinking, boy, this is a classic Super Bowl in the back of my head.
06:34I was like, damn.
06:35No, I was sitting there, I have 10 people in the living room, I remember sitting there going, oh my god, they're going to go back to back, I hate them.
06:42No, when they threw me the interception, when they threw me the interception, I jumped off my couch saying, yes, yes, Seattle's going to lose, yes.
06:49That's hate-watching.
06:50Yes.
06:50That's hate-watching.
06:51That is the essence of hate-watching.
06:53But I was watching in real time, I was like, wow, they're going to come back and win this game.
06:56What a remarkable, they're about to go back to back, they're about to three-peat, and they got the interception.
07:01I was like, the team that I bet on won, so I was happy as hell.
07:05But, you know, and that's a rival, that's a rival, no doubt.
07:09Mahomes is just so great, though.
07:10Oh my god.
07:11Okay, so if I take Mahomes off the table.
07:12Like, Dak and the Cowboys?
07:15I mean, they're like our little brothers.
07:17I just, I kind of just laugh.
07:19It's more so laughing at Cowboy fans than the actual Cowboys, because they have, like, I love CD Lamb, for example.
07:25Okay.
07:25I love CD Lamb.
07:27Like, I put them in the same category as the Chris Paul, Russell Westbrook, James Harden, where it's like, basically, like, here you go, I can't wait for the demise, let's do it.
07:37The streets are saying I'm speaking Caponese, that's good.
07:40Caponese?
07:41That's pretty good.
07:42That's very funny.
07:43Carlos Guido on YouTube, Vontae is speaking Caponese right now.
07:47If he came up with that, that's one of the most creative things I've ever heard.
07:50That is pretty damn good.
07:52Carlos Guido, can I steal that and tweet about that?
07:55Hey, you're speaking Caponese right now.
07:57That is pretty good.
07:58You're a Florida State guy.
07:59Do you hate watch Florida?
08:00Yeah, I don't, I hate the Gators.
08:01Okay.
08:02I hate the Gators.
08:02So then you do, you do practice.
08:05I don't practice.
08:06It's just certain teams, but for the most part, I love sports.
08:08That's everyone.
08:09But I don't watch the Gators every day.
08:11I don't watch the Gators.
08:12I leave their games alone.
08:13I'm watching Florida State.
08:14There's so many college football games.
08:15I love the Giants.
08:16You're acting like I don't love, I love the Giants.
08:18I love them so much.
08:20Like my brother, I'm in a beef with them every now and then.
08:23That happens.
08:23I don't disagree with that.
08:24That happens with family.
08:25Like the fights that you get in with family are unlike any other fight you
08:29get in with anyone else.
08:30Here's my thing though.
08:32I'm done exhausting energy on this regime.
08:35I did that during the trade deadline week.
08:37So you're, I said what I said.
08:38You're jogging like Lamont Wade.
08:41I'm just waiting to the finish line to see what happens.
08:44What happens the first day after the season's over?
08:46The Giants don't make the playoffs.
08:48What are they going to do?
08:49Are they going to let guys go?
08:53Are they going to bring guys back?
08:56What are they going to do?
08:58That's what I'm waiting for.
09:00The team is what it is.
09:01I know what they are now.
09:02They're a 500 baseball team.
09:04So there's no sense of me letting the pendulum swing left and right saying,
09:07Oh my God, I'm throwing it.
09:10I know who they are now.
09:11They told me who they are.
09:12They showed me who they are with their actions.
09:14So I'm not going to waste an extra ounce of energy.
09:16I'm gonna watch them.
09:18Say, hey, hopefully Kyle Harris is getting better.
09:20Hopefully Hayden Bear starts getting better.
09:22When you watch Chip Kelly run the same fourth and short, slow developing
09:28read option keeper for the quarterback to get plowed in the backfield that
09:33didn't drive you nuts in the in the midst of a of a lost season.
09:36Didn't drive you nuts.
09:38Shanahan does the same damn thing.
09:39They win.
09:40They bring me some level of like excellence, right?
09:44But the Giants aren't excellent in anything.
09:46Anything.
09:49Yeah, the Chip Kelly team.
09:50You knew they were bad.
09:51So what I did was I did the complete opposite us.
09:54So remember NFL rooting against the Niners so they could fire everyone.
09:58So you remember NFL films and how does you have the blooper reel and you
10:03show a season full of bloopers?
10:04Yeah,
10:05that's how.
10:08I watched that Niners team with Chip Kelly.
10:10I said, okay.
10:12What are they going to do?
10:12That's so laughable today.
10:14What's going to come out of this?
10:15That's going to become a comedy.
10:16Wow.
10:17They're featuring Jeremy currently today or how are they going to blow
10:21this game?
10:22Yeah, but you know, it's so you didn't want them to win six games so that
10:25they kept them another year.
10:26I mean, like I said last week.
10:29Once the ball is kicked off.
10:30I want my team to win.
10:31The records go out the window.
10:32Yeah, see there are there are specific moments where I'm rooting for a
10:35loss for draft position in football, right?
10:38In baseball.
10:39It's just I mean, I want to win every game baseball makes me crazy.
10:43It just does and again, I know I sound absurd because it's not worth, you
10:47know, losing your mind, but it's the exhaustion of six years of the same
10:52crap, but see I'm a competitor in the sense that once like connect for for
10:56example, like it's hard for me.
10:58I'm for example, I'm playing an iPad with my daughter and there's these
11:00little games we could play air hockey.
11:03We could play all these games with my daughter right basketball and like I
11:06know I can win every single time.
11:09But then when I'm letting her win and the clock is running down.
11:12I'm like, I don't like losing in the back of my head.
11:14I'm just like I just don't like losing.
11:17Yeah.
11:17So when the Chip Kelly led Niners when they would kick off the ball when the
11:22kickoff happened and his game started, I wanted to win the damn game.
11:26I wanted to win the game.
11:27I just I just like winning.
11:29I like winning.
11:31So when they did lose it's like damn.
11:33Well, there's a silver line.
11:34Okay, they're 2 and 14.
11:36Everybody's going to get fired.
11:37That's going to happen.
11:37Anyway, but once the game starts no matter what even with the Giants of
11:41White Sox.
11:41I don't want them to lose to the damn White Sox.
11:43I didn't say I want them to lose but I'm watching a team that drives me
11:46crazy.
11:47And and so on some level you have to love something so much to stay tapped
11:52in right so we can call it hate watching and like it's just the things they
11:56do drive me crazy.
11:57They drive me crazy.
11:59It's an abusive relationship and it's one way, you know, it's it's just it's
12:03the same old thing right that we've seen it for the last three years with
12:06the Giants.
12:07It's the same damn thing over and over and over and until management does
12:12something that's what drives me insane.
12:14You know what don't think you know what but if it does something about it,
12:17it's like, all right, let's let's see what happens.
12:19Let's see what happens after the season.
12:21Are you going to get rid of Farhan or not?
12:23Like the old Warriors before Steph Curry.
12:25I didn't hate watch them.
12:27They were miserable and you know, I was rooting for them and there were
12:31times where I just he got to be kidding me.
12:32You know what I mean?
12:33Like whatever it was and you just expected the worst scenario to happen.
12:37Well, they lost an exciting player was going to leave and be an all-star
12:40somewhere else or they lose an exciting fashion.
12:44You know, they'd be up 18 on some on a team and you're like, wow, Oracle's
12:49rocket and then they start to give up the lead like oh, oh, how are they
12:53going to lose this one?
12:54Are they going to lose this one?
12:56But I you know, hey watch is strong.
12:58I mean, I get it like when you obviously want your rivals, right?
13:01You're going to want your rivals to lose.
13:02That's that's all the time.
13:03That's that's baked into the equation.
13:06But for the most part, I just like to see greatness.
13:08I like to see great athletes and then follow these great athletes like
13:10you're talking about Tatum Bethune and I'm watching Tatum Bethune
13:13highlights from Florida State thinking he was number.
13:16He was good in that number 15.
13:18I forgot.
13:18He was number 15 in Florida State and he came up with the big time
13:21interception against Louisville in the ACC championship and made play
13:24after play after play tackling in space.
13:27Renardo Green, who's that for?
13:28And actually when I was watching Renardo Green and Tatum Bethune
13:32highlights yesterday and watching some of their stuff for Florida State
13:35actually got me more ticked off that they didn't get invited to the
13:37college football playoff.
13:38But it got me ticked off to Jordan Travis got hurt because Jordan
13:42Travis doesn't get hurt.
13:43I truly believe Florida State is winning national winning the national
13:46championship.
13:47I think they beat Michigan.
13:48I think they beat Washington and I think they hoisted trophy once again
13:52for the first time since James Winston.
13:53Fuck.