The Destruction of Madinah and The Greater Israel | Ustadh Wahaj Tarin
OnePath Network sits with Islamic teacher and speaker, Ustadh Wahaj Tarin, to discuss in detail the significance of Palestine and Israel towards the end of times. We discuss the return of Jesus, the arrival of the anti-christ and the various signs that play out prior to their coming.
We also cover the various eschatological views of this matter within Judaism, Christianity and of course Islam.
We also cover the various eschatological views of this matter within Judaism, Christianity and of course Islam.
Transcript
00:00The people that are occupying the land of Palestine today will endeavor to recreate the temple.
00:06When it is recreated, they will try to move to their next ambitions, which is the greater Israel.
00:13And we have a hadith with regards to this, that the building up of the Bayt al-Maqdis will culminate
00:20in the destruction of Medina, and the ruin of Medina will spell out the start of the wars of Armageddon.
00:29When will Jesus come back?
00:31What role and significance does Israel and Palestine play in the end of times?
00:37And what do the scriptures say about Muslims re-entering Palestine?
00:42Today we'll be discussing the eschatology and the significance of Israel and Palestine
00:48in Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, with none other than Ustadh Wahhaj Tarin.
00:54As-salāmu ʿalaykum wa-raḥmatu wa-barakātuh, Ustadh Wahhaj.
00:57It's a pleasure, it's an honor to have you rejoin us
01:00on your second podcast with One Path Network.
01:03How are you feeling, Sheikh?
01:04ʿalaykum ʿas-salām, al-ḥamdu liLlāh, pleasure to be here.
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01:37Let's get back to the podcast.
01:39Ustadh Wahhaj, the last podcast we presented on this topic
01:43was one of our most-viewed podcasts of all time,
01:46Israel and the End of Times and The Red Cow Sacrifice.
01:49Ustadh Wahhaj, that was a revelation to so many of our viewers.
01:54So do we have an update on this Red Cow, the Red Heifer Sacrifice
01:59that a lot of the people were fascinated in?
02:03So I think everyone is still waiting for that.
02:06The people that want to carry it out are still waiting for an opportunity.
02:10Currently, it's not obviously an opportune time
02:13because optics-wise it will not look good.
02:16Has it taken place?
02:17I've heard some rumors on the ground that it already has taken place.
02:21I'm not aware.
02:22I'm not aware.
02:23I'm not aware.
02:25So Shaykh, Inshallah, we'll be diving right into the conversation at hand.
02:31But before we do, I think it's important for our viewers
02:33to familiarize themselves with a few key terms
02:36which I believe will be reappearing throughout this conversation.
02:40So we will be speaking about the Messiah,
02:44the Antichrist,
02:45and potentially the Mahdi.
02:47So those are three key terms.
02:49So if you can basically define and walk our viewers through
02:53who is the Messiah, who is the Antichrist,
02:57and who is the Mahdi.
02:59So the Messiah literally means the anointed one.
03:03In the olden days, what would happen is when a person took office,
03:08they would be rubbed, anointed with oil
03:12to kind of say that this is your role and seriousness of it.
03:17And also the fact that you will be in this for forever, if you like, until you die.
03:25So that was the anointing process of it.
03:28You also have it in the history.
03:29You'll see it in certain Arab wars before Islam.
03:33They would bring oil, which is scented,
03:37and they would rub it on their hands or dip their hands into it
03:40and shake an oath of allegiance into that.
03:43Because the oil and the scent would last a long time
03:46because oil-based perfumes last a long time.
03:49So it was to remind that this is ongoing
03:51and it's not a short-term commitment
03:53and it is something that you are stuck to.
03:56So in the case of the Messiah,
04:00he is the one anointed into the office of prophethood,
04:04or as in into the office to serve God and lead his people.
04:10So this is the Messiah.
04:12When we say Masih al-Dajjal,
04:15the two words denote that the Dajjal part is the fake
04:19and Masih meaning the fake Messiah, the fake anointed person,
04:25or the false one, if you like.
04:29So we believe, as some of the other faiths believe,
04:33that towards the end of time, the fake Messiah will come.
04:37They refer to him as the Antichrist.
04:40The Dajjal.
04:41The Dajjal.
04:41That's why Masih al-Dajjal, as in the fake anointed person.
04:47And as with regards to Mahdi,
04:50Mahdi is the rightly guided person
04:54who we are promised at the end of time.
04:57There are many hadith with regards to him,
05:00of which four of them are sahih,
05:02like four of them are authentic.
05:05And the prophet, sallallahu alayhi wa sallam,
05:07essentially said that even if one day is left
05:11before Judgment Day,
05:13Allah will extend that day until someone
05:17from my progeny comes into authority
05:23and his name will be on my name,
05:26as in his name will be Muhammad,
05:29and his father's name will be on my father's name,
05:31as in it will be Muhammad ibn Abdullah,
05:34and he will fill the earth with justice
05:37as it was filled with injustice.
05:38So that is the Mahdi,
05:43the rightly guided one who we are anticipating
05:48and others anticipate as well.
05:50From all, I would say from Christianity,
05:52from Judaism, and of course Islam.
05:54Ustadh, you mentioned that the Masih is the anointed one,
05:58and there is a false Masih.
06:00According to the authentic Masih,
06:02that would refer to Isa, if I'm correct?
06:06That's right, because the Qur'an clearly establishes that.
06:10So verily the Messiah in Jesus, the son of Mary.
06:14So Isa, alayhi salam, is the awaited Masih that came,
06:20and he will come back again as it established
06:22in the authentic Hadith at the end of time.
06:26And I think this is probably a nice place
06:30to just introduce some of the other stakeholders in this.
06:35So all the three monotheistic or Abrahamic faiths
06:39are waiting for the return of the Messiah.
06:41In the case of our Jewish cousins,
06:45this will be his first coming to them.
06:48I pray this is okay for me to-
06:50Yes, of course, this is fine.
06:52So our Jewish cousins believe
06:57that the Messiah hasn't come yet.
07:00Yes, that Jesus was a fault according to them.
07:03That's right.
07:03So when he came, as in when Jesus came,
07:05they failed to see his truth, and they failed to accept him.
07:10So as such, they're in denial that he's the actual Messiah,
07:14and they're still waiting for the real Messiah to come.
07:18And because it's been so long,
07:21one of the reasons they give is because
07:23we are not ready to receive him.
07:26So then how do you get ready to receive him?
07:30So when the people of Israel return back to their faith,
07:35and they're strong enough to host him,
07:38and when the temple is rebuilt,
07:41which goes into the whole red cow story,
07:46and when he comes,
07:48they believe that he will reign not just over Israel
07:54as we know it today,
07:56nor greater Israel as we know of some of their ambitions,
08:01and nor the biblical Israel,
08:03which they say is from the Euphrates to the Nile,
08:06but he will reign over the world.
08:09So this is their aspirational goal.
08:12And this is the belief with regards to the Messiah
08:16that they have.
08:19At the same time, the evangelical Christians
08:23have a prophecy of their own with regards to the Messiah.
08:26You see their posters and their placards all over the place,
08:29Jesus will return.
08:30That's right, that's right.
08:32And it's a motivational driving point for them and their faith,
08:39and those people who follow them, obviously,
08:42because it's a big deal that the Messiah comes back on earth.
08:47And their belief is that, again, the temple has to be built.
08:52The Temple of Solomon.
08:54So they have a shared belief.
08:56Yeah, and it seems to be a marriage of convenience here.
09:01So the temple will be built.
09:05And when the temple is built,
09:07the fake Messiah will come into the temple
09:11and place his idol there as a point of worship.
09:17So they believe that a fake Messiah will come
09:19and he will call people to worship him.
09:23And it will happen in the temple.
09:26So that's why the temple is a prerequisite
09:28for the evangelical Christian in the coming of Christ.
09:32And that is why there's such a support
09:33from the Christians of the United States
09:36for the Zionist nation,
09:38because the Temple of Solomon must be built by the Jews
09:41and it must be built for the Antichrist to come,
09:46call himself a God.
09:48And then they believe when he does that,
09:50in agony, the people of faith will raise their hands
09:54to the heavens to say, help.
09:57And then the actual Messiah will come.
09:59Jesus will return.
10:00Jesus will return.
10:02So in this, there's a bit of an irony
10:04because it seems that one is using the other
10:09to get their own means out of it.
10:12So although our Jewish cousins believe in their Messiah,
10:16it seems at least on the surface
10:19that their Messiah might end out
10:20being the Antichrist of the Christian world.
10:25And through his coming, they will get the actual Messiah.
10:30The Muslims obviously have their own.
10:34And I might add, the prophecies are very vague.
10:40Like they've had to do a fair bit of imaginative reading
10:46to come up with these details.
10:49And then you come to the Islamic world
10:51and our prophecies are,
10:52and I don't say this as a bias because I'm a Muslim,
10:56but Islamic prophecies are very particular
11:00and they're very detailed
11:02and little room for ambiguity.
11:07So we also believe that Jesus will come back.
11:12And we've got specific details with regards to it.
11:17So the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said,
11:19yanzilu isa ibnu Maryam bayna mahrudatayni
11:23wadi'un kaffayhi ala ajnihati malakayni
11:27inda manarati bayda sharqiyya dimash.
11:31Jesus, the son of Mary, will come
11:34covered in two beige guards.
11:37And you see the detail here.
11:39Yes.
11:41Two beige guards,
11:43hands on the wings of two angels.
11:47Inda manarati bayda
11:49near the white manarati sharqiyya dimashq
11:54on the Eastern side of Damascus.
11:55A white minaret on the Eastern side of Damascus.
11:57That's right.
11:58And subhanAllah at his time when he uttered this,
12:04there was no minaret there.
12:06And nor did Islam extend to there.
12:09Islam was not up to Syria.
12:13But as per prophecy,
12:17mosque was built there,
12:18minaret is there,
12:19now the white minaret.
12:21And we believe he will come there.
12:24So these two prophecies of these two faiths
12:28are the driving mechanism
12:29of what is happening around there
12:31and the endless support that we see.
12:34And then the Islamic prophecy,
12:38unlike our cousins,
12:39we are not actually trying to persuade that into coming.
12:44We're not pushing.
12:44We're not pushing it, yes.
12:46But we also know that it will happen as prophesied.
12:49It will come.
12:50So you've mentioned the descent of Jesus,
12:53Isa alayhi salam,
12:54in the Eastern side of Damascus.
12:57This is the return of Jesus
12:59that we Muslims and Christians share
13:01that he will return.
13:03We also share a belief in the Antichrist.
13:05Who is the Antichrist?
13:08And what do we know about him?
13:09What features, what signs
13:10did the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam inform us of?
13:14So the Antichrist is of the major signs
13:17of the end of time.
13:20And the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam
13:23informed us that there is no trial
13:25or tribulation or calamity
13:29ever to have visited humanity
13:31from the time of Adam
13:33till the day of judgment
13:34greater than the calamity of the Dajjal.
13:37There is no calamity, no trial, no tribulation
13:42to come upon mankind
13:45greater than that of the Antichrist.
13:48So with regards to him,
13:51His features?
13:53Yes.
13:53So the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam
13:55gave us certain signs.
13:57So for example,
13:58the signs of the Antichrist
14:00are the signs of the Antichrist.
14:01The signs of the Antichrist
14:02are the signs of the Antichrist.
14:04The signs of the Antichrist
14:06So for example,
14:06he said,
14:07al-Dajjal mamsooh al-'ayn
14:10maktoobun bayna aynayhi kafir
14:13The Dajjal has had his eyes blotted out.
14:18So one of his eyes is not working.
14:20It has been,
14:21it is like you get dough
14:23when you pull your hand across dough
14:25like as in it's.
14:27Like plaster, what do you say?
14:28Yeah, like a wet plaster.
14:30Like that.
14:31And the other eye is flawed,
14:33like it works,
14:34but it's flawed.
14:36A lazy eye, perhaps?
14:38I don't know.
14:39Allahu a'lam.
14:39But the hadith give descriptions of it
14:44like a dried out sultana.
14:48So it looks,
14:49so he seems to have ailment
14:51in both his eyes.
14:52And between his eyes,
14:54as in on his forehead
14:56is written the word kafir.
14:58In one of the hadith,
14:59the Prophet spaced it out
15:01as in ka-fa-ra.
15:03And he made it's the condition
15:07to be able to read it, faith.
15:10So he says every person of faith
15:13will be able to read it,
15:15whether he can read or not.
15:18So normally in physics,
15:21you see something
15:22because light bounces on that object
15:25and then into your eyes.
15:28So in this instance,
15:29the light that will help you see the kafir
15:33is the light of faith.
15:34The light of iman.
15:35Light of iman.
15:38So you will see it.
15:40And then he will,
15:42he has a lot of challenges
15:45that will follow in his time when he comes.
15:49And the challenges will shake faith to the core.
15:53And frankly,
15:54we will not be able to overpower him.
15:56Yes.
15:58And his death and destruction
16:00is written at the hands of the actual Messiah.
16:02Yes, Jesus.
16:03And Jesus, Isa Alayhi Salam.
16:07And we believe that
16:09he will come for a specific period of time.
16:13And the first day of his arrival
16:17will be as long as a year.
16:20And then the second day will be
16:22as long as a month and then a week.
16:24And then the rest of the day is normal days.
16:27And in those days that he's here,
16:28he will traverse the whole planet.
16:32And he will come towards Medina as well.
16:36But we are taught that the Prophet
16:38Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam
16:39or we are taught through the words
16:41of the Prophet Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam
16:44that angels will stand guard around Medina
16:47and they will push him away.
16:50So then he will make his way towards
16:52where the Muslims will be at the time.
16:55And this is one of the hints of
16:58where all these conflicts will end up.
17:01They will be in Baitul Maqdis, Jerusalem.
17:05And that is where he will meet Isa
17:08or Isa Alayhi Salam will meet him.
17:10And then it will spell the end of him at that time.
17:14I believe it's specified exactly where he will be.
17:16That's right.
17:17So in the Bab al-Lud,
17:20Bab al-Lud is a place
17:24in Palestine.
17:25And some say near Jerusalem.
17:27That's right.
17:27Yeah.
17:28The Muslims will be encamped in Jerusalem
17:33with the Mahdi that we spoke about.
17:36And they will be surrounded
17:38by this Antichrist and his forces outside.
17:43And obviously they have no way of defeating them
17:45because his defeat is written at the hand of Isa.
17:48And then it will be prior time.
17:50Some say it will be Fajr Salah
17:52and others say it will be Asr Salah.
17:54But irrespective, it will be prior time.
17:57And the Iqamah will be given for the Imam to lead the Mahdi.
18:02And then the Hadith mentioned that a darkness will spread.
18:06Yes.
18:08So all of a sudden it will become dark.
18:10And then when it lights up again,
18:13they will look and he is amidst them, Isa Alayhi Salam.
18:17And the Prophet Salam described him.
18:20He will have hair as though he's come out of the bath.
18:23That's right.
18:24So it will be dripping wet.
18:26And beads of liquid, of water, of sweat droplets will roll off him.
18:33And it has a scent in it.
18:34And coincidentally, our Jewish cousins also believe
18:37in the scent of the Messiah.
18:38He will have a scent.
18:39I think they've got their details mixed up a little bit.
18:42So he will come and because obviously he was a prophet when he, in his first arrival.
18:52So the Imam will move as in to make way for Isa Alayhi Salam to lead the Salah.
18:59So he said, so Isa Alayhi Salam places his hand in the details of the Hadith
19:05between the shoulder blades of the Imam, as in his back.
19:08As in his back.
19:10And he motions him to lead.
19:13So he said that you will lead one another in Salah.
19:18Takrimatullahi lihadhihi l-ummah.
19:21As an honor that Allah has given to this Ummah.
19:26So then he will lead the Salah.
19:28And when he, the Salah finishes, because they're in a state of immense anxiety.
19:34They're surrounded by the enemies outside.
19:38So when Salah finishes, he says, open the doors.
19:42As in the furious finish time here.
19:45And when the doors open and they're surrounded.
19:50The Hadith say that wherever his scent reaches and his scent reaches as far as his eyes sees.
19:57Whatever it touches of his adversities or adversaries will fall dead.
20:04Except for the Dajjal.
20:06So this would be like a miraculous.
20:08Of course, of course, of course.
20:11And then so he will call out to him that there's no escape.
20:15It is written that I strike you once.
20:18So he chases him and catches him in this Bab al-Lud.
20:23And he will finish the story of the Dajjal there.
20:29So just as a side point Imam, is Isa Ibn Maryam returning as a prophet of God?
20:37As with regards to the question of whether he will be a prophet
20:40or he will come as an ordinary man.
20:44The verses of the Quran and the Hadith of the prophet establish
20:48that there's no more prophets after our prophet.
20:52So no more Shari'a after his Shari'a.
20:55So Isa will come and the deen has been perfected.
20:59Al yawma akmaltu lakum.
21:01The deen has been perfected.
21:03So a perfect thing can't have any additions or deletions.
21:06And as such, there's no need for another prophet to come and add to it.
21:11So Isa will come and he will follow the latest version of the religion
21:18that he came with himself.
21:21You know, you have phones.
21:22So this is the latest version of the phones of Islam, if you like.
21:28And the prophet has said that he will modify certain aspects of the Shari'a.
21:39As in, you know, with regards to zakat and things like that, if I remember correctly.
21:45But that is done on the tongue of the prophet.
21:47So the prophet said he will do this as in it has been given authority to do this.
21:52So it won't be his own ad hoc change.
21:55So it's still dictated through the prophets of Allah.
22:01So yeah.
22:03I think it's important to also note that there are Jews who actually oppose
22:08what Israel is doing and what the Jewish people are doing that are in charge of Israel right now
22:14to prompt the arrival of the Antichrist.
22:17There are also Christians who are opposed to what's taking place now.
22:21Although the evangelical Christians, there is a section of evangelical Christians
22:25that support the state of Israel.
22:26There are many Christians that absolutely oppose the genocide, the violent occupation.
22:32And as Muslims, as you've mentioned, we are not doing anything to prompt
22:36the arrival of the Antichrist or the arrival of the Messiah.
22:40But if I can ask you a question, Ustadh, are there any, I guess,
22:44sequence of events that are written to prompt the arrival of the Dajjal?
22:50Specific sequence of events.
22:53You've mentioned something earlier about the building of the temple.
22:57So not in our faith, but as in amidst Jewish cousins and amidst the Christians,
23:07they have a belief and also a knack to try to force prophecies to eventuate.
23:16So of the things that the Israelites are trying to do,
23:24their belief is, or the sum of them, that if they become worthy of the Messiah,
23:31the Messiah will come back.
23:33So part of the things that will make them worthy is if they rebuild the temple of Solomon.
23:40And you did mention something about the Umran, the people that build
23:45Beit al-Maqdis.
23:46If you could walk us through this specific.
23:48The Israelites, our Jewish cousins, are bent on rebuilding the temple of Solomon.
23:55And we have a Hadith with regards to this, that Umran of Beit al-Maqdis,
24:00that the building up of the Beit al-Maqdis will culminate in the destruction of Medina.
24:15So when you try to marry this Hadith and the beliefs of the other faiths,
24:25and also see what is happening on the ground today,
24:30one of the possible scenarios becomes that
24:35the Zionists or the people that are occupying the land of Palestine today will
24:42endeavor to recreate the temple.
24:45And when it is recreated,
24:51they will try to move to their next ambitions, which is the greater Israel.
24:57And because notice that the Messiah to them is a global king,
25:02it is not a localized king, like he will reign over the world.
25:07You've mentioned something very powerful that those that construct Beit al-Maqdis,
25:11so the construction, sorry, of Beit al-Maqdis,
25:13the construction within Jerusalem will prompt the destruction of Medina.
25:19So this is something like very new to many of our viewers, including myself.
25:23If you can walk us through this, what exactly is this referring to?
25:26Like what is the destruction of Medina?
25:28What is the destruction of Medina?
25:29What is the construction of Jerusalem?
25:32And where is this Hadith found just for our viewers as well?
25:35So the Hadith is found in the authentic books of Hadith.
25:41And I think if anyone even searches,
25:44and the word of the Hadith is,
25:59Some of the Ahl al-Ilm from the past have declared this as a weaker Hadith.
26:04Yes.
26:04But our Shaykh al-Bani, Rahimahullah ta'ala, classified it as Hassan.
26:11And then others have classified it as Sahih.
26:13Yes.
26:14And again, when you see the reality on the ground, there is merit to it.
26:21Could you just translate that?
26:23You've mentioned the Hadith in Arabic, if you could.
26:26So the Hadith says that the building up of Beit al-Maqdis,
26:32Beit al-Maqdis is the temple of Jerusalem or the mosque in Jerusalem, if you like.
26:40Literally, Beit means house, Maqdis from Muqaddas, as in the holy house,
26:46referring to Masjid al-Aqsa.
26:50So the rebuilding of that, or the build up of that,
26:55will culminate in the destruction or the ruin of Medina.
27:03And the ruin of Medina will spell out the start of the wars of Armageddon.
27:09Malhama, the great wars.
27:12And the wars of Armageddon will result in or culminate in
27:19the opening or the victory of Constantinia.
27:25Constantinople.
27:26One is Constantinople, yes.
27:29There is a view that Constantine had two cities.
27:34One was Constantinople that he built, and the other one before this was modern Rome.
27:42So irrespective of how you look at it,
27:46the city of Constantine will fall open.
27:51And then that will bring in the age of the Dajjal.
27:56Okay.
27:58But it is linked, I believe, on a practical level to the story of greater Israel.
28:06Because the building of the temple will mean that
28:11they have got rid of all resistance around Jerusalem.
28:17And they have succeeded in building the temple
28:21and building up the areas around it, perhaps.
28:24And destroying Masjid al-Aqsa.
28:27Yes.
28:28And then with this will come
28:33a new phase where they will try, I believe, this is my calculations,
28:39that they will try to create this notion of greater Israel,
28:44which to them extends far beyond its current borders.
28:47And as part of that, Muslim cities near and around those areas
28:55will be attacked and destroyed.
28:59And we have a Hadith of the Prophet,
29:01Sallallahu alayhi wasallam,
29:02where he said,
29:03آخر قرية الإسلام خرابا المدينة
29:08But the last city that they will be able to destroy
29:11will be the city of Medina.
29:13So, we know that it will be harmed and it will be destroyed.
29:19And then the other Hadith gives an example of what will happen,
29:23how the destruction will look like.
29:26So, the Prophet, Sallallahu alayhi wasallam, said,
29:28لَيَتْرُكُنَّ الْمَدِينَةَ عَلَىٰ أَحْسَنِ مَا كَانَتْ
29:31La yatrukunna al-madinata ala ahsani ma kanat.
29:32You will leave Medina, vacate Medina,
29:36when it is the best it has ever been.
29:39So, I read it as the buildings will be intact,
29:43the hotels will be there, the orchards will be there.
29:47Medina right now is very beautiful to go there.
29:49That's right.
29:50So, but it keeps on developing,
29:52like as in the works around Medina keep on going.
29:56And the Hadith says, when it's ala ahsani ma kanat,
30:00like the best it has been.
30:04So, you ask yourself the logical question,
30:07that why have they left Medina?
30:09Because, number one, the love of the Muslims
30:13for the city of Medina is self-evident.
30:15We've traveled thousands of miles to be there,
30:17even for a few days.
30:19So, no Muslim would forsake it, naturally.
30:24And then secondly, there's no problem
30:28because the verse says,
30:29There's no earthquake, there's no...
30:30No, because the verse says,
30:31while Sudsan is the best situation.
30:33While Sudsan is the best situation.
30:36So, it's not physically destroyed.
30:38Infrastructure is still there.
30:40Orchards are there.
30:41And another Hadith says,
30:46You will leave it and its fruits are hanging low.
30:49As in, the orchards are all fine for 40 years.
30:54So, why are they leaving?
30:58So, there's another Hadith which gives a hint.
31:04Of what might happen.
31:08A possible scenario.
31:11And the Prophet, Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam,
31:14he says, you will leave Medina
31:15when it is the best it has ever been.
31:19And you will leave it for the beasts and the birds.
31:23And then the Hadith continues,
31:25that the last two to enter the city
31:29will be two shepherds from Muzayna.
31:31And he specifies the tribe.
31:34And they will come with their flock into the city.
31:38And when they come into it,
31:40they will see it vacant.
31:42They will see it deserted.
31:47And there's another reading of this Hadith.
31:49As in, it could possibly mean
31:51that when they come into it,
31:53the animals will become wild.
31:57The tamed sheep will become wuhush.
32:02So, and by the time they leave the city of Medina
32:09and reach Thanayatul Wada,
32:12the limit towards which the guests were taken to
32:16in the olden days,
32:17like before they left the city,
32:18they used to be walked out.
32:20This is called Thanayatul Wada,
32:22the place of goodbyes,
32:23the point of farewell.
32:26When they reach there,
32:27both of them will fall down dead.
32:30So, if you think about it and analyze it,
32:34the city is vacant.
32:35It is built up so much so that the Hadith says
32:39that a wolf will come and urinate on the member
32:44and no one will be there to stop it.
32:47And when the two people have entered it,
32:52either somewhere during the time
32:54or towards the end of its time,
32:56towards the end of its time,
32:57and they walk out of it,
33:00barely a few kilometers,
33:03they both fall down dead.
33:05So, upon thought and reflection,
33:10a possibility is that there will be either chemical
33:15warfare used onto the city,
33:17as in the air will become toxic,
33:19poisonous,
33:21or, you know,
33:22the physical walls and all of that,
33:24that you touch it,
33:26or there's a biological-
33:27Specific towards humans.
33:29Specific towards humans,
33:31or a neurological one in which,
33:34you know,
33:35an agent is used that drives things crazy
33:38and humans to death
33:39because the animals,
33:41you know,
33:41our possible reading is that they become beasts,
33:45so they become untamed or crazy.
33:48So, that is the culmination
33:52of, you know,
33:55the Umrano Bayt al-Maqdis and Kharab al-Yathrib.
33:58Okay.
33:59And this would obviously then trigger,
34:01you mentioned the battles of Armageddon,
34:03like post-apocalyptic wars,
34:05and then the opening of Constantinople,
34:08whether that is-
34:10Whichever one it is.
34:11Whichever one it is,
34:12and then the arrival of the Antichrist.
34:15That's right.
34:16And Mustafa,
34:17we've mentioned a lot about the greater Israel.
34:20Just to give a bit of a,
34:21I guess,
34:23information on what is the greater Israel,
34:25we've seen recently Israeli soldiers in Gaza
34:29have badges with a map of the greater Israel.
34:32We saw the finance minister-
34:33Very different from their current borders.
34:35And they get very triggered about the quote
34:37from the river to the sea.
34:38This is far beyond the river to the sea.
34:42And they're calling for,
34:43you know,
34:43potentially taking over parts of Jordan,
34:45parts of Syria.
34:46We saw the finance minister deliver a talk
34:49with a map of the greater Israel.
34:51On this podium.
34:52So walk us through this.
34:54What is the fascination behind it?
34:56What are they trying to do and why?
34:58I think this happens with a lot of nations.
35:02They retry to create a glorious past.
35:06Make America great again.
35:08That's right.
35:09And you also have,
35:10for example,
35:11in Russia,
35:12like there's a thought of creating greater USSR.
35:16And there's a thought of the Ottoman Empire.
35:19And there's a thought of,
35:22you know,
35:22greater Israel.
35:24So greater Israel started like its inception
35:30in, you know,
35:30when the British mandate came into effect in 1918.
35:35And everyone knew,
35:36you hear this on Churchill's actual words,
35:39that they will not be kept local at that stage.
35:42They will expand.
35:43They were like,
35:43what will happen high end
35:45weapons and a lot of wealth and money
35:49and international support.
35:51They will push the Arabs out.
35:53So it's understood at the political world level.
35:58It's the great powers that this will eventuate.
36:03So they are driven by not 1948 borders,
36:07not 1967 borders.
36:09They are driven by greater Israel borders,
36:13which comes out in the statement of some settlers,
36:15which comes out in the statement of certain rabbis,
36:17which comes out in the statement of politicians.
36:21So the next step of this greater Israel
36:24is the map you see
36:27on the podium of the finance minister when he spoke.
36:30And you see it on the shoulders of soldiers.
36:32And it goes way beyond the river,
36:34takes up pretty much all of Jordan and parts of Syria.
36:38But even that is not the final version.
36:42The final version of,
36:43if they end up creating the Israel that they envision
36:49or that the book says they had at some time access to,
36:52it will go from the Euphrates to the Nile.
36:55And even that is on record.
36:57Even that is on record as some of their rabbis
36:59and some of the leaders,
37:02we will take everything from Euphrates,
37:05including Mecca, Medina.
37:07Yes.
37:07And I feel like what they're doing right now,
37:09the ethnic cleansing,
37:11they are-
37:12It's just a step towards it.
37:14But what will happen is that this ambition,
37:18this drive,
37:19this desire to grow and to recreate a nostalgic past
37:25will cause a lot of destructions around.
37:29But the Prophet Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam
37:30told us that the last destruction
37:33will be that they will,
37:36well, I'm assuming it will be them that will inflict,
37:38that will be inflicted on the villages or areas of Islam
37:41as in cities of Islam,
37:43will be Medina.
37:44Yes.
37:44So Medina will be the turning point.
37:47And this turning point will culminate in the great wars.
37:51So what, from the Ahadith,
37:54what I understand,
37:55and there's great scholars,
37:57much greater than anyone that we know in person.
38:01For example, Sheikh Mohammed Hassan Walid al-Dadaw,
38:03he's of the same opinion.
38:06He's of the opinion of what, sorry?
38:08He's of the same opinion that the destruction of Medina
38:12will result in the awakening of the Muslim
38:17to the point where they will gather around righteous leaders.
38:22So the Prophet Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam informed us
38:26that this matter will not end,
38:29as in Islam will not go under.
38:34This business will not finish
38:36until 12 guided Khulafa have come into existence.
38:44There's obviously different beliefs on that,
38:46that they come from the time of Abu Bakr
38:51and you just count 12 there,
38:52or you look for 12 righteous people in Muslim history,
38:56or will they come as a cluster at the end of time?
38:59My belief is that they will come as a cluster
39:02at the end of time,
39:02because the Prophet Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam,
39:04when he mentions the Hadith says,
39:06the matter will not end,
39:08as in towards the end of time,
39:10this is what will happen.
39:14So when the destruction of the last city of Islam happened,
39:20as in Medina,
39:22people will gather around the leader in the Hijaz,
39:26and 12 such leaders will come one after the other,
39:30because you look at the other Hadith
39:32of the Prophet Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam,
39:34in which he prophesized step-by-step,
39:38so far as leadership or reigns are concerned.
39:42So he said,
39:43Takoonun nubuwatu feekum masha'Allahu an takoon
39:46Prophethood will be there for as long as Allah wants it,
39:49then Allah will remove the age of prophethood,
39:52and then the Khulafa will come.
39:54So the Khulafa or the Khalif,
39:56so the Caliphs will come,
39:58and they will stay a righteous,
40:03prophetically guided Khulafa,
40:08for as long as Allah chooses.
40:10In another Hadith,
40:11he says 30 years.
40:13So Abu Bakr came,
40:14and Umar came,
40:14and Uthman came,
40:15and Ali came,
40:17and so on.
40:18And that was collectively 30 years.
40:20That was collectively 30 years.
40:21So it's a long segment of time,
40:25it's not a specific few days.
40:28And then he says,
40:28Thumma takoonumulkan aadhan
40:31then there will come an age,
40:34you can translate the Hadith
40:36where power will be shared within families,
40:39like brother to brother,
40:40shoulder to shoulder.
40:42So the Banu Umayyads
40:43and the Banu Abbasids,
40:44and these come,
40:45and there's also an element of injustice in the rule,
40:48like there is a calamity there.
40:50And then he says,
40:51Thumma takoonumulkan jabriyya
40:54then there will come an age of tyrannical rule,
40:58where people who have no worth
41:00and not worthy of the office
41:03are in office
41:04and by the whip and by force,
41:07they keep people in subjugation
41:09and so on.
41:11And this age will continue.
41:14And then the end of this,
41:16Thumma takoon khilafatan ala minhaj al-nubuwwa
41:20then the age of khilafat will come again,
41:22and they will follow the footsteps of prophethood.
41:26So this is not a one reign,
41:28notice it was ages,
41:30so an age will come of khilafat again.
41:33That age, I believe,
41:35will start at when the last city
41:39as the prophet promised,
41:41because no more cities of Islam
41:42will be damaged after this.
41:44Aakhiru qarriyatul islami kharaban al-madina
41:49And then the 12 rightly guided
41:52will come one after the other.
41:54So you will understand
41:55that the Ummah is in tatters,
41:59so they will rebuild
42:01and it will take at least 40 years
42:04because Madinah will be ruined for 40 years.
42:07So at least 40 years of that will happen.
42:10And then Madinah will become populated again.
42:15And then the Dajjal comes eventually.
42:17And when the Dajjal comes,
42:18Madinah is full again.
42:19Yes.
42:19So it means more than 40 years will pass.
42:22And he will not be able to enter Madinah.
42:24That's right.
42:25So what it shows is a long time will pass.
42:29And this is where the 12 can fit
42:32as in the 12 rulers,
42:33the culmination of which will be the Mahdi.
42:36The last of the 12 leaders that will come
42:39will be the Mahdi.
42:42Thank you very much for that.
42:43And just to clarify, reiterate to our viewers,
42:46this 12 is the opinion of the Ustadh
42:49and it's an allowable,
42:52like this is a permissible opinion to hold.
42:55That's right.
42:56So with these,
43:00with the reading of-
43:01It's an interpretation.
43:03That's right.
43:03But it is interpretation
43:05that other scholars have gone into before me.
43:08It is not my own personal.
43:10That's right.
43:10And all the things that I have mentioned here
43:12are not my own personal ones.
43:14They are Aqwal of the Ahlul Ilm
43:16who are much more learned than us.
43:18And you know,
43:20who are stars in the skies of Islam
43:23and valid opinions to have.
43:25Although it might differ from other people's stakes,
43:27but that's-
43:29I think, thank you very much for that disclaimer.
43:31And lastly, for our viewers at home,
43:34this is a lot of information to take in.
43:37It's a lot of information to digest.
43:38A lot of this is outside of our control.
43:41You know, kingdoms that come,
43:43empires that are built,
43:44empires that are destroyed over times.
43:48This is out of our control.
43:49Within our control as Muslims,
43:51what should we be doing
43:52to protect ourselves
43:54during the time of Isa,
43:55during the time of the Antichrist?
43:57You know, one of the greatest fitna,
44:00one of the greatest trials to befall this Ummah.
44:02What should we be doing now to prepare?
44:07So, the Prophet ﷺ,
44:10when talking about the fitna of the Masih al-Dajjal,
44:13which is what we have talked about,
44:15he directed us towards Surat al-Kahf.
44:18Yes.
44:19And its recitation.
44:21And recitation, by itself,
44:23is not the murad in the deen.
44:26It's not what is wanted.
44:28It is not the purpose.
44:29That's right.
44:29It's not the main aim.
44:31So, the purpose of recitation is liyadabbaru,
44:35so that you reflect and get lessons out of it.
44:38So, of the lessons you pick from Surat al-Kahf
44:43is the lessons that we get from the lives of the young men
44:47who were in a society toxic to their beliefs,
44:53who had moved far away from righteousness and goodness.
44:57And not only that,
44:59the righteous were not allowed to exercise their faith
45:04in that space.
45:05They were not allowed to believe in one God.
45:07They were not allowed to pray as they wanted and so on.
45:10And so, these young individuals stood out in history
45:17as being a people that had found guidance,
45:21and not only found it,
45:22but were practicing guidance in a time of great misguidance.
45:25Yes.
45:26So, in their lives or in their story is lessons for us.
45:29Yes.
45:30Of the lessons that we need to take is number one,
45:35innahum fityatun amanu bi rabbihim.
45:39So, fitya, futuwa, has different meanings.
45:45One is age.
45:46Yes.
45:48Second is characteristics of the age.
45:53So, we have in our country,
45:55we say juwan mardi,
45:57like characteristics of young men.
46:04So, of those characteristics,
46:06so young men meaning men that are capable,
46:09men that are free,
46:12and in that, these are the characteristics.
46:14They're honorable, they're hospitable,
46:18they help the weak, the needy.
46:21So, as an institution of futuwa is innahum fityatun.
46:27They were people with these characteristics.
46:31So, we need to embody those.
46:33We need to have courage.
46:35We need to have decency.
46:36We need to have karam.
46:38We need to have nobility.
46:39We need to have goodness.
46:41And then second, amanu bi rabbihim.
46:43They were people with these characteristics
46:46that believed in their God.
46:48So, we need to work on our iman and our belief.
46:52And then Allah says, wazidinahum huda.
46:56And we increase them in their guidance.
46:58They were on a good path,
47:00but we increased them in guidance.
47:02And increase only comes through practice.
47:05Yes.
47:06walladhina jahadu fina lanahdiyan lahum subulana
47:10Those who struggle in our path,
47:12we increase them in guidance.
47:15So, it means they believed
47:18and they were hard practicing on that.
47:21And then the next characteristic,
47:23Allah rabbul Izzah says,
47:24warabatna ala qulubihim
47:26We tightened their hearts
47:29as in we instilled in them courage.
47:34Because a lot of times,
47:35it's very hard to be courageous.
47:37It's very hard to stand up
47:39and say the right thing and do the right thing.
47:42So, a characteristic we need to have
47:44is this characteristic of courage.
47:47And that we need to instill in our children
47:49is a characteristic of courage.
47:52So, that's another of the qualities
47:55that we should aspire to have.
47:57And then the next one,
47:59idh qamu, when they stood.
48:02So, we need to stand.
48:04We need to stand for the haqq.
48:07We need to stand for what is right.
48:08We need to stand for Allah.
48:11We need to stand to advocate
48:13for what is the truth and what is right.
48:17Because this stance
48:21is what Allah rabbul Izzah
48:23ordered his prophet as well.
48:24Qum
48:25fa-amdhir
48:26fa-amdhir, get up and warn.
48:29So, this qawma,
48:31and he ordered him twice to get up, yeah?
48:33Qum al-layla
48:34illa qaleela
48:35as in worship.
48:38And then the second qum,
48:40fa-amdhir, get up and warn,
48:42rise, stand, warn.
48:44And this standing of warning
48:46as in the standing of da'wah
48:49is what it culminated into.
48:52Idh qamu fa-qalu
48:55rabbuna
48:56when they got up
48:57and they said,
48:58our Lord,
48:59the one that created heaven and earth
49:01and, you know, every one of us.
49:03So, when you stand,
49:06you talk about
49:09the
49:10qudrah of Allah rabbul Izzah
49:12and the greatness of Allah
49:13and the tawheed of the Dhul Arsh al-Majeed
49:15and promote that in his teachings
49:17and his guidance and that.
49:19That is what
49:22our preparation for that hour needs to be.
49:24Reading Surat al-Kahf every Friday.
49:27To the best of your ability,
49:28to our viewers that can't read the full surah,
49:32read the first 10,
49:34read the last 10.
49:35With contemplation and trying to embody the lessons.
49:38And trying your best.
49:39And subhanAllah, I feel like
49:41if one lesson speaks out to me,
49:42it's finding that safe haven within the cave
49:46during times of trial.
49:47Yes.
49:48And you can imagine if the Dajjal comes
49:49and we witness his arrival,
49:52you don't want to be anywhere near him.
49:54You don't even want to test your iman.
49:57You want to be as far away as possible in a safe haven.
50:00Yes.
50:00So another thing that the surah points out to,
50:03so it says,
50:05and they say,
50:17So irrespective of which number it is,
50:23they are people who have found a few brothers,
50:29people, whether that's three or five or seven,
50:34a small community that holds their belief
50:37and strengthens one another through encouragement
50:40and getting to know one another and the rest of it.
50:43So another point is that as difficulties increase,
50:47we need to connect to the righteous.
50:50You know, good families, good people
50:53that we can rely on in times of need.
50:56So as difficulties increase,
50:58and already you see difficulties in life,
51:01one of the ways to alleviate difficulties
51:04is by the support of good people to have around yourself.
51:08So we shouldn't overlook that as well.
51:10Yes.
51:11So relying on Allah subhanAllah,
51:13relying on our communities,
51:14having that fortification, that fortress, that base.
51:18And inshaAllah, that will be a great means of protection.
51:21Ustadh Wahaj, it's been a pleasure joining us on this podcast.
51:25That was a lot to unpack,
51:27many of which many of us haven't heard before,
51:30but it's important that we familiarize ourselves
51:32with what's taking place and understand that our strength,
51:35our courage, our resilience in these times
51:37will only come from Allah subhanAllah.
51:40Pleasure.
51:40Pleasure to have been here
51:42and Allah rabbul Izzah grant you all success.
51:44Allah yubarik fiqh.
51:45And until next time,
51:46Assalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh.
51:49Assalamualaikum.