La historia de los niños nacidos de soldados alemanes y madres noruegas es una de las más dolorosas y menos contadas del período de la Segunda Guerra Mundial. Decenas de miles de estos niños sufrieron odio, discriminación y abuso tanto de sus familias como de sus comunidades. A lo largo de la década posterior a la guerra, estos niños, a menudo rechazados por su propio gobierno, enfrentaron un estigma que marcó sus vidas. En este contexto, la lucha de estos niños por el reconocimiento y la justicia es una historia de resiliencia y dolor que merece ser contada.
La discriminación sistemática que padecieron en Noruega dejó cicatrices profundas, no solo en su infancia, sino también en su identidad como adultos. En su búsqueda de justicia, muchos de estos niños se unieron para demandar que el gobierno noruego reconociera el sufrimiento que habían experimentado. Durante años, sus esfuerzos fueron ignorados, pero su perseverancia finalmente comenzó a dar frutos.
Hoy en día, la historia de estos niños es un recordatorio poderoso de los efectos duraderos de la guerra y la importancia de la inclusión y el reconocimiento. Al educar al público sobre esta experiencia, esperamos fomentar una mayor empatía y comprensión hacia aquellos que fueron víctimas de circunstancias fuera de su control. Es crucial que sigamos visibilizando sus historias para garantizar que nunca sean olvidadas.
**Hashtags:** #HistoriaNoruega, #JusticiaParaLosNiños, #SegundaGuerraMundial
**Keywords:** niños de la guerra, soldados alemanes, madres noruegas, discriminación en Noruega, justicia histórica, estigmas sociales, resiliencia infantil, reconocimiento gubernamental,
La discriminación sistemática que padecieron en Noruega dejó cicatrices profundas, no solo en su infancia, sino también en su identidad como adultos. En su búsqueda de justicia, muchos de estos niños se unieron para demandar que el gobierno noruego reconociera el sufrimiento que habían experimentado. Durante años, sus esfuerzos fueron ignorados, pero su perseverancia finalmente comenzó a dar frutos.
Hoy en día, la historia de estos niños es un recordatorio poderoso de los efectos duraderos de la guerra y la importancia de la inclusión y el reconocimiento. Al educar al público sobre esta experiencia, esperamos fomentar una mayor empatía y comprensión hacia aquellos que fueron víctimas de circunstancias fuera de su control. Es crucial que sigamos visibilizando sus historias para garantizar que nunca sean olvidadas.
**Hashtags:** #HistoriaNoruega, #JusticiaParaLosNiños, #SegundaGuerraMundial
**Keywords:** niños de la guerra, soldados alemanes, madres noruegas, discriminación en Noruega, justicia histórica, estigmas sociales, resiliencia infantil, reconocimiento gubernamental,
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00:00In a war, all the children are wounded.
00:16War is hell.
00:20For the descendants of the occupiers,
00:23that hell begins when peace arrives, and lasts a lifetime.
00:31I know what the children of the war in Norway have gone through.
00:35In Norway, in our precious democracy.
00:40I know what many of us have gone through.
00:44So I can only imagine
00:47what other children of the war are suffering today, all over the world.
00:54I tell my story again, because the fight is not over.
01:17At the beginning of 2007, a group of Norwegian children,
01:35born during the Second World War,
01:38appeared before the highest court of human rights in Europe, in Strasbourg.
01:44They wanted justice to act against Norway,
01:48for the vital abandonment and systematic discrimination they had suffered.
01:58For most of them, the Second World War had never ended.
02:03In fact, the day that peace reached the whole world, in 1945,
02:10a new war began for them.
02:15German pig.
02:17That word, German, had something.
02:22I realized that it was a very ugly word.
02:27After a while, I became quite strong physically.
02:34Imagine that they hit you with a pincer until it breaks.
02:40You end up developing a lot of strength.
02:43Or at least that was my case.
02:48But for my mother to call me German pig,
02:51it hurt me more than if she hit me with a pincer.
02:57Some days, when I went to school,
03:00my ass hurt so much that I could hardly sit down.
03:05I feel as if I had no childhood.
03:22I remember thinking,
03:25I would have preferred to have been the result of an extramarital relationship
03:30if that had meant not being the bastard son of a German.
03:35I wouldn't have cared.
03:41Because the shame I felt was almost unbearable.
03:45And it followed me everywhere like a shadow.
03:48I couldn't get it out of my head.
03:50Remember who you are and where you come from.
03:53We had to host those Germans for five years.
03:56And when we finally got rid of them,
03:58they left a trail of dirt at their feet.
04:01Their dirt.
04:10War is war.
04:12And if you're a product of it, it's not easy.
04:17If one day you were a Nazi, you will always be a Nazi, they say.
04:22After the war, the younger generation went through a brutal process
04:27because they had to pay for the sins of their parents.
04:30And I identify with that because it's what I lived in Norway.
04:35I had to pay for the sins of my mother and my father.
04:41The Second World War was at its peak.
04:45That war not only claimed lives, but also brought others to the world.
04:54In addition to the Holocaust and systematic massacres,
04:58Hitler's commander in chief, Heinrich Himmler,
05:02had established the Lebensborg program all over Europe.
05:07In safe environments, thousands of German officers
05:11were encouraged to mate with women from the occupied territories,
05:15with the aim of bringing new members of the Aryan race to the world,
05:20with blond hair, blue eyes and fair skin.
05:24Their role would be to manage the Empire of Hitler
05:28for the next 1,000 years.
05:32In the occupied Norway, the situation was different.
05:37No force was used, nor were there any mates.
05:41To Hitler's eyes, the Norwegians were the bearers of the purest Aryan blood
05:46because they descended directly from the Vikings.
05:50To Hitler's eyes, the Norwegians were the bearers of the purest Aryan blood
05:55because they descended directly from the Vikings.
06:02My mother and my father were naive.
06:06They thought they would find love in war.
06:10They met at the end of 1941.
06:15When I was on my way, my parents thought of getting married.
06:22I have vivid memories of my childhood and other more vague ones,
06:27but I remember that my father sang to me.
06:31Although I did not speak German,
06:34I knew many songs in that language.
06:37They were familiar to me,
06:41so I had to have heard them somewhere.
06:49The girls and boys met and fell in love.
06:54Norway was occupied by 400,000 German soldiers.
07:01Far from the most active focus of the war,
07:04many soldiers left their barracks and went to the villages,
07:08farms and squares of the cities.
07:12It is known that between 30,000 and 50,000 Norwegian women
07:16maintained relations with them.
07:22About 12,000 children were born from them.
07:28Many of the pregnant women did not get married.
07:33They were ashamed and threw them out of their homes.
07:36Some had to look for a safe place to give birth.
07:41It was then that the Levensborn homes opened their doors
07:45and took care of the birth and needs of the newborns.
07:50Compared to the world around them,
07:53those homes gave the mothers and their children
07:56a safer and more comfortable environment to live in.
08:01But that would change radically after the war.
08:12My father was a soldier destined for Norway.
08:17He met my mother, who was living with her aunt,
08:21and who ran a laundry where the uniforms of the Germans were cleaned.
08:28That's how they met and fell in love, my mother and my father.
08:38My father died on his way to Russia,
08:41on October 20, 1942.
08:49Then they separated me from my mother
08:52and took me to the Levensborn Gottab house, managed by Germans.
08:59I stayed there until I turned two.
09:04Then they sent me to Eberswalde, in Germany,
09:07where my grandmother and grandfather lived.
09:12My first seven years of life were good and happy.
09:17We lived isolated in the valley,
09:20on top of a rocky area, on a very small farm.
09:25I don't remember us being poor, but we probably were.
09:30However, we had food and shelter, and I don't remember us lacking anything.
09:41The replicas of the war were felt all over the world.
09:45It's impossible to measure the consequences
09:48of the horror unleashed by Hitler's forces.
09:54In addition, the uniforms worn by those men responsible for the atrocities
09:59were the same as those worn by the parents of those children.
10:08Whether it was their intention or not, it instilled fear.
10:12Yes or yes, they were also human beings who longed for a normal life.
10:18The truth is that as soon as those uniforms were worn,
10:22they all received the same name, Nazis.
10:27THE NIGHT BEFORE
10:39I miss him.
10:41The truth is that I feel him very close to me.
10:45I look at his photo every day.
10:47I have it hanging in the room of my room.
10:51My mother and all my family say he was a good man, a kind man.
10:59And my son looks a lot like him physically.
11:03I think they have the same character.
11:06Both are calm and with certain musical talents.
11:15I don't remember him, but I keep his memory.
11:20He comes to life thanks to the photographs.
11:25No, I didn't get to know him.
11:30Nobody talked about my father.
11:34It was a taboo subject.
11:38I understood from a very young age that it had to be forgotten.
11:43Over time, I began to ask questions.
11:50I knew, although nobody had told me, that my father was German.
11:56But I never got answers to my questions.
12:03My mother refused to talk about all that.
12:08She said,
12:10It doesn't matter who your father is.
12:13What matters is who you are.
12:17My father's subject was not key.
12:23I was convinced that my father would return someday.
12:30Because it didn't occur to me that someone could leave their children behind.
12:38Abandoning a child seemed inconceivable to me.
12:43However, one day I had to admit to myself that he would not return.
12:54I remember that it was one of the most difficult moments of my life.
13:03And well, accepting that marked me.
13:08And since that day, I have missed him.
13:16He didn't want to come back.
13:20Okay, stay where you are.
13:23But it was a great disappointment.
13:37DYNAMARCA, DENMARK
13:48These photographs were taken in Denmark, during the war.
13:55The woman was an actress who had been paid,
13:58and the men, members of the Danish Resistance.
14:03It was an announcement whose purpose was to warn women and the rest of society
14:10about how these women should be treated if they were related to German soldiers.
14:32DENMARK
15:03DENMARK
15:11In Norway, there were also announcements issued in the London newsstands
15:16warning Norwegian women of the disastrous consequences they would suffer
15:22if they maintained intimate relations with the enemy.
15:27At the end of the war, many of these women were detained
15:31and subjected to scorn in public spaces.
15:38They took off their clothes, shaved their heads and spat on them.
15:45Some of them were even chased while they ran around naked in the streets.
15:51The help they received from the authorities was scarce or zero,
15:57and in the unlikely case that they would be charged,
16:01many were overshadowed by the judges.
16:09I remember telling my family,
16:13we have freed ourselves from the Germans,
16:17but now we have to deal with their garbage.
16:20The garbage they have left behind.
16:23That's how I gradually understood that I was the daughter of a German.
16:31My first childhood memory is from when I arrived at the orphanage.
16:35I was about two years old.
16:42I remember that my mother left me at the door
16:45and told me that that was my house.
16:49She told me that from then on I would live there.
16:57I still remember what they did to me when I arrived.
17:03I suffer just from remembering it.
17:09They undressed me and put me in boiling water
17:13because they said they had to clean me.
17:18They told me I had lice and diseases.
17:24They burned my skin.
17:27I couldn't deny it.
17:30I was nothing more than a little girl.
17:33I couldn't tell them I didn't want to do it.
17:36I didn't have the strength.
17:39Those abuses continued over and over again
17:42until I got married at 18 years old.
17:48The first time I realized that something was wrong
17:52was when I started going to school at seven years old.
17:59There was something bad inside of me.
18:02There was something bad that I couldn't change.
18:07I remember they called me a German whore.
18:13That was the first time I was seven years old.
18:18A classmate called me that.
18:21Probably his parents had taught him that word.
18:25None of us knew what a whore was.
18:28When I left, I ran home and asked my mother
18:32what a German whore meant.
18:37She was very wise.
18:39She told me not all Germans are Nazis
18:42and not all Norwegians are angels.
18:45She told me that in all communities there are bastards
18:48and that in all societies there are good people.
18:52She tried to make it up to me.
18:55There are different ways to react.
18:58Some lower their heads, surrender and let themselves be subdued.
19:02I didn't want that to happen to me.
19:05Luckily, I had a survival mechanism.
19:09Throughout my life, I have been above that rage.
19:12That's what draws me.
19:21In the transcripts of the Strasbourg Tribunal,
19:25there are testimonies of some of the boys,
19:28many of whom had been locked up in mental hospitals
19:32by the state authorities,
19:35despite being perfectly sane.
19:38From the age of four to the age of 19 or 20,
19:41they had to live with patients with serious mental disorders.
19:46As a result, after being released,
19:49they had to deal with panic attacks,
19:52insomnia and suicidal tendencies for the rest of their lives.
19:58In those psychiatric sanatoriums,
20:01some of them were raped by their caregivers.
20:06One of the testimonies
20:08shows the case of a boy who went from one orphanage to another,
20:11up to a total of 20.
20:14When he lived in one of the children's homes,
20:17he and a girl were locked up in an orphanage for a whole day
20:22because they were told they stank.
20:27It was scorching hot,
20:29and when they were let out at night,
20:32they were almost unconscious.
20:35Then they were dragged to the house,
20:38put in a bucket of acid water,
20:41and brushed with a brush until they were left alive.
20:46During that trance,
20:48it became clear to them that everything was because they were children of war.
20:54As the boy was a child of war,
20:57he was harassed and raped at school
21:00without anyone trying to stop him.
21:03Along with other children of war,
21:06he often had to stand in line
21:08for his classmates and teachers to urinate on him.
21:19My mother started working at Mor Preserving,
21:22a fishball factory
21:25that was at the end of the street where we lived.
21:29One day I was alone at home,
21:32waiting for the dishwasher to finish.
21:36He was also there, painting,
21:39sitting in the kitchen.
21:42And he had...
21:49Well, the thing is that he started talking to me.
21:56I was reading the newspaper.
22:00Then he grabbed me like this
22:03and put me against the wall.
22:06I had an erect penis.
22:10He held me so tight
22:15that he left bruises on my neck.
22:20I managed to escape
22:23and ran to the store to take refuge.
22:30I would rather not have to do it.
22:33It's very unpleasant.
22:36But, well, I'll do it.
22:39The members of that sect had their meeting point.
22:45I don't know very well what kind of sect it was,
22:48but the fact is that they came to the orphanage.
22:51They were all children of war.
22:54It was a sect.
22:57But the fact is that they came to the orphanage,
23:03borrowed a child
23:07and sexually abused him.
23:13When the child returned to the orphanage,
23:16he could hardly walk.
23:20Then they borrowed another child
23:23and repeated the same thing.
23:29This went on like this over time
23:32and it happened with the benefit of both parties.
23:36Better said, with the benefit of the adults.
23:41It's so creepy
23:44that you want to get a ticket and emigrate.
23:49Sometimes it's hard for you to identify with this country.
23:53And with its sadistic practices.
23:56And I wonder,
23:59is this possible?
24:02Who can do something like this to a child?
24:05I've thought about it a lot.
24:08Can someone do that to a child?
24:11But when I hear other stories,
24:14mine seems insignificant to me.
24:18Leaving aside the stories of individual abuse,
24:21the most respected professionals
24:24carried out public humiliations
24:27and sowed fear.
24:30One of the many examples
24:33can be found in a 1945 newspaper article
24:36written by a doctor,
24:39psychiatrist Johann Ries.
24:42He described the Norwegian children
24:45born during the war
24:48as defective, insane
24:51and potential Nazi spies
24:54and compared them to rats in a basement.
24:59They were children of hate.
25:02Anything could happen to them.
25:05Some ended up in small villages,
25:08enslaved in farms.
25:11Others were handed over,
25:14adopted, sent far away.
25:20They suffered all kinds of abuse.
25:25We had little protection
25:28if our mother couldn't take care of us.
25:31And many mothers couldn't take care of their children.
25:39Immediately after the war,
25:42the Norwegian government founded
25:45the Children of War Committee.
25:48After extensive research,
25:51the institution presented a 180-page report
25:54that included letters
25:57demonstrating the scope of the society's
26:00perspective on children of war.
26:03About 80 pages of the report
26:06were full of advice
26:09on how to ensure the health
26:12and safety of children of war.
26:15The committee also suggested
26:18that the government should start
26:21a positive information campaign
26:24to integrate children of war into society.
26:27According to the transcripts
26:30of the Estrasburgo Tribunal,
26:33the Norwegian government assured
26:36that the children of war should not be
26:39involved in war.
26:48Between 1945 and 1946,
26:51the Norwegian government tried
26:54to deport us to Germany.
26:57They thought that was where we should be.
27:00The Red Cross of Norway envied them.
27:04There would have been about 25,000 people,
27:0712,000 children of war.
27:10It would have been a massive deportation.
27:13The Red Cross said,
27:16it is unfeasible because Germany is in ruins,
27:19there is famine.
27:24A delegation from Australia arrived.
27:27They invited people to leave
27:30to help rebuild the country.
27:36They needed strong workforce.
27:43The Norwegian government said,
27:46we have 6,000 people, they are all yours.
27:49The Australians were speechless
27:52when they discovered
27:55that it was children.
27:58They said, no, thank you.
28:01And they left.
28:04What a generous offer
28:07from the Norwegian government
28:10to offer 6,000 German children.
28:13As if they wanted to get rid of them.
28:16Perhaps they would have said yes
28:19if they had said 3,000 more or 1,000 more.
28:22But the Australians did not want
28:25to be deported.
28:28What they wanted was workforce.
28:31Europe wanted the same.
28:34It was in ruins.
28:37In 1945, the Ministry of Justice
28:40explored the legitimate ways
28:43to facilitate mass deportation.
28:46To legalize it,
28:49it was important to invent new laws.
28:53In mid-August 1945,
28:56the Ministry of Justice
28:59modified the Norwegian Citizenship Law
29:02that had not been amended since 1924.
29:05Thanks to this amendment,
29:08thousands of women and their children
29:11were deprived of their Norwegian citizenship
29:14and the possibility of regaining it.
29:18The actions of the government
29:21generated reactions.
29:24And there was a need to justify themselves,
29:27to blame and embarrass someone.
29:30The war history asked for it.
29:33Those attitudes legitimized
29:36the horrible treatment suffered
29:39by the dirty Germans.
29:42The war history demanded
29:46And I, who lived through that,
29:49think, how can one make
29:52their own decisions?
29:55What happens when you have to make a decision?
29:58Because you never learned to choose.
30:01You only learned to accept abuse.
30:08Survival was charged a high price
30:11in most children of the war.
30:15Studies show that many of them
30:18have enjoyed a quality of life
30:21inferior to that of their peers.
30:24A more limited access to education,
30:27a more fragile health,
30:30and fewer opportunities
30:33seem to be common characteristics.
30:36And despite so many adversities,
30:39they seem to have managed to live
30:43I was 16 years old or 16 and a half
30:46when I met him.
30:49I remember that I was there
30:52in the square and I heard
30:55that someone called Knut was coming.
30:58I had to threaten
31:01that I would escape from the orphanage
31:04to come to the city to meet him.
31:08I had never seen such beautiful brown eyes
31:11in my life.
31:14I had the most beautiful brown eyes
31:17that you can imagine.
31:20It was love at first sight.
31:29I left home at 14 years old.
31:32Yes, I think that at 14
31:36and since then I worked and studied
31:39at the same time.
31:42I accepted all kinds of jobs.
31:45I was a babysitter, I was a locksmith,
31:48I worked in a store, I washed clothes,
31:51all kinds of strange jobs to pay for the studies.
31:54I was poor and had to make money
31:57to pay the rent.
32:00A constant struggle to survive.
32:03I loved music and dancing
32:06and I went to parties with friends.
32:09The area where I lived in the north
32:12had many military camps
32:15and on Saturdays they organized
32:18many dances in the community center
32:21and there we all went, the girls.
32:24I loved to dance.
32:27I met the man very soon
32:30with whom I got married.
32:33Maybe too soon, but it's something
32:36you can't choose.
32:39Things are like that.
32:42And that's how I ended up
32:45in the small town of Gudbrandsdalen
32:48in the 60s.
32:51Gudbrandsdalen is a community of farmers
32:54where people are very attached
32:57to their traditions and their heritage.
33:03I told them that I had a stepbrother
33:09and that my mother had not married
33:12any of the parents.
33:15I did not tell more.
33:18I was very ashamed.
33:21What a shame!
33:24My mother carried Sami blood
33:27in her veins.
33:30Me too.
33:33And I know the history of the Sami people.
33:36They also remained silent
33:39until they fought in the 80s.
33:42The shameful thing is to humiliate someone
33:45for being who he is and for coming from where he comes from.
33:48When I got married,
33:51the priest told me
33:54that I should be sterilized.
33:57There was a real danger
34:00that the children would become as stupid as me.
34:03He told me that I was not prepared
34:06to educate children
34:09and that the best solution was sterilization.
34:12No, I told him, I'm not going to be sterilized.
34:15You can do it, he insisted.
34:18If not, there is a danger that you will have children
34:21as useless as you.
34:24I sat down because he left me speechless.
34:27Who imagines that a priest
34:30will tell you something like this
34:33when you get married?
34:36If you ever have children,
34:39your children can be as retarded
34:42and as dysfunctional as you.
34:48The stigma destroys you
34:51from the inside out.
34:54It leaves you without self-esteem.
34:57It steals your identity.
35:00It takes everything away from you.
35:03It swallows you.
35:06You are nothing.
35:10You are a zero on the left.
35:15I don't have to live
35:18because I'm nothing.
35:22That's what I thought when I was little.
35:27I'm nothing and no one would worry about me
35:30if I disappeared.
35:34There was an absolute silence.
35:39German children did not begin to raise their voices
35:42until the 1990s,
35:45almost 50 years after the war.
35:48That was a taboo subject.
35:51It was so shameful that no one talked about it.
35:58The silence was broken
36:01when a few people
36:04took a step forward
36:07and then we started to organize ourselves.
36:10We found a lawyer
36:13who agreed to take the case
36:16and present it to the judges.
36:19We wanted the Norwegian government
36:22to compensate us.
36:25It took us 50 years,
36:28but it was enough to create
36:31a sepulchral silence.
36:34It says a lot about the oppression we suffer.
36:48I didn't know anything about that case.
36:51I hadn't even heard the word Lebensborn.
36:58One day I received a call from someone
37:01who introduced himself as a person from Lebensborn.
37:04And I thought, what is that?
37:07That person explained his case to me
37:10and asked me if I could help him.
37:16He was a child from Lebensborn.
37:21I heard his whole story
37:24and I thought he was really crazy.
37:28I immediately got involved
37:31with the idea of deepening that case.
37:34It was impossible not to do it.
37:37Someone had to take that case.
37:40The man told me that he had spoken
37:43to other lawyers who had rejected him.
37:46I accepted the case.
37:49The first meeting was with the Department of Justice.
37:52We met with politicians and parliamentarians
37:55but they didn't listen to us.
37:58So we decided to go to the courts
38:01to ask for compensation.
38:09The legal battle began in the Norwegian courts
38:12where the children of the war claimed
38:15that Norway had been unable to protect them
38:18and that it had systematically discriminated against them,
38:21thus destroying their lives.
38:28They wanted Norway to acknowledge their mistakes
38:31and to compensate them for the disorders and abuses
38:34they would have to face for the rest of their lives.
38:51During the visit we used to go
38:54to different cafes and restaurants
38:57such as Bondeheimen
39:00or Bristol
39:03to eat and drink coffee.
39:06I remember that one day
39:09we went to the theater
39:12and a man spat on us.
39:15He was a Norwegian.
39:18He spat on us.
39:23And the next day another man
39:26threw a cup of coffee at us.
39:32They were of a generation older than ours.
39:35I have also experienced
39:38that someone of a younger generation
39:41spat on me.
39:45One day someone did it
39:48when I was buying some medicine
39:51at the Bolle pharmacy.
39:54It was a young man
39:57who was walking with his professor
40:00from the University of Ullrud.
40:04He recognized me
40:07because he had seen me on TV
40:10and that's why he spat on me.
40:13How can this hatred exist
40:1670 years after the war?
40:22Who is capable of hating
40:25for 70 years?
40:33The Norwegian children
40:36born as a result of the war
40:39went to three different courts in Norway
40:42where they received some empathy
40:45but where they did not get justice.
40:51They were told several times
40:54that although their stories were important
40:57according to the law
41:00their petitions had been prescribed.
41:07And when they had already exhausted
41:10their legal rights in Norway
41:13they decided to go to the most important
41:16human rights court in Europe
41:19in Strasbourg where they received
41:22an open hearing.
41:40The public hearing
41:43in the case of Fyrman and others
41:46against Norway
41:49this case was initiated
41:52initially according to article 34
41:55of the convention
41:58by a total of 159 members of the court.
42:01Mr. President
42:04distinguished members of the court
42:07May I begin by saying
42:10that it is an honor to be here today
42:13in front of all of you.
42:16The court has delivered to the parties
42:19a list of questions that I will proceed
42:22to address and I will also present
42:25the government's explanations.
42:28I will show that the application
42:31of the Norwegian law of prescription
42:34I will show that there has been
42:37no discrimination against the applicants
42:40and that there has not been a violation
42:43of Norway's obligation to protect
42:46their rights according to the convention.
42:49I was very angry when I heard
42:52the lawyer
42:55I was about to stand up
42:58and start shouting
43:01the president of our organization
43:04held me by the coat and told me to sit down
43:07the case was dismissed
43:10in the three Norwegian courts
43:13was labeled prescription
43:16so the court of Strasbourg
43:19came to the same conclusion
43:22I already knew in advance
43:25that the case was lost
43:28as soon as I saw how we were presented
43:31to the judges I said
43:34this case is lost, we will never win
43:37because if Norway wins here
43:40if the Germans of Norway win here
43:43and we get compensation
43:46it will cost too much to the countries
43:49from which these judges come.
43:52The term of prescription
43:55in cases of abuse to children
43:58of the war reaches up to 20 years
44:01that means that after the child
44:04of the war who has suffered abuse
44:07reaches adulthood
44:10has 20 years to present himself
44:13before the law if he wants to enjoy
44:16a possibility of justice
44:19that was the main reason why
44:22the court of human rights of Strasbourg
44:25denied justice to the Norwegian children of the war
44:28assured that the case had prescribed
44:31because it had exceeded the deadline
44:40after the final decision
44:43at the end of a battle that had lasted almost 10 years
44:46the group of 159 children of the war
44:49dispersed, some committed suicide
44:52and others had to request
44:55to enter mental hospitals
45:01Björn committed suicide
45:07a few years ago
45:10very recently
45:13after the sight
45:16the last thing he said to his friends
45:19was, I'm tired of being a German child
45:24I can not stand it anymore
45:27I was 68 years old
45:37I understand why it costs them
45:40it's hard, it's still hard
45:44most are already dead
45:47many have taken their lives
45:50according to a study
45:53the suicide rate
45:56among children born as a result of the war
45:59is high
46:02compared to that of other children
46:08there are more suicides among children of the war
46:12than among other children
46:20in Strasbourg
46:23a small compensation was agreed
46:26to the children of the war
46:29if they recorded the details of their abuse
46:32and presented a credible statement
46:35if they had documentation
46:38then they would receive
46:41a higher compensation
46:44in Strasbourg we received from the government
46:47a compensation in quotation marks
46:50a representative of a political party
46:53said
46:56this is the smallest compensation
46:59given to a group
47:02in modern times
47:0820,000 Norwegian crowns
47:11is not even the salary of a month
47:14that's what a person's life is worth
47:17the Jews received their compensation
47:20and it was much more generous
47:23they received it without asking
47:26the Norwegian sailors who were
47:29in concentration camps in Japan
47:32also received theirs
47:35and Germany had behaved badly with the Jews
47:38when it comes to what the system has done
47:41to people, then they are not open
47:44to compensation
47:47I was greatly disappointed
47:50because they were unable to admit it
47:53none of those politicians
47:56had been involved
47:59why not admit it?
48:02politicians cannot be generous
48:05they can say, yes it happened and it was bad
48:08we regret it
48:11if they had said that directly
48:14if they had accepted it
48:17there would have been no trial
48:32what has happened far away
48:35can happen easily
48:38near us
48:41we always hear about wars
48:44but never about the products
48:47of war
48:50children
48:53someone has to help us
48:56and it is
48:59someone has to help us
49:02and we have to prepare a convention
49:09a convention of the United Nations
49:12for the protection of children
49:15who are the product of war
49:18children born from soldiers
49:21and women from occupied areas
49:24the convention of the United Nations
49:27is not enough to protect these children
49:30it does not cover the extreme situations
49:33that may arise
49:36children of war, children of occupation
49:39need their own convention
49:42their own protection
49:45if I look back
49:48to my childhood
49:51what made me stand up
49:54I had an aunt
49:57already older
50:00called Gilma
50:06a very short woman
50:09who had a house
50:12where she had to feed 12 people a day
50:19she saw me
50:22you have to see the children
50:25you have to see them
50:28and you have to pay attention to them
50:34they need to experience the care
50:37that someone cares about them
50:42that's what saved me
50:48in my darkest moments
50:51I thought of my aunt Gilma
50:54she told me that I could go to her
50:57whenever I had a problem
51:00and even if there were 12 people in the house
51:03there was always room for me
51:06I think all children born
51:09as a result of war
51:12need an aunt Gilma
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