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00:00Asalam-o-Alaikum, dear viewers, welcome to the program.
00:03In the program, we will talk about a statement made by Maulana Fazlur Rehman in the National Assembly the other day.
00:10Now, it is being combined with different words.
00:13Some people think that he has joined the government.
00:17Some people think that no, he has not joined the government.
00:20He is showing the government a way through which the challenges of the state can be eliminated.
00:28We will also talk about the permission of Tehreek-e-Insaf to hold a Jalsa.
00:34The NOC has been formally issued on the 8th.
00:38It seems that the Jalsa will be held by Tehreek-e-Insaf.
00:44In the past, you have seen 3-4 Jalsas.
00:46Their NOCs at the 11th had been cancelled.
00:49We will also talk about this.
00:50But first of all, our top story is the press conference of the Director General of ISPR, Lt. Gen. Aiman Sharif.
01:01He has started a good series.
01:04He is holding press conferences once or twice a month.
01:09He is raising various questions, especially regarding the Pakistan Armed Forces, the role of the Pakistan Armed Forces,
01:17and the operations of the Pakistani Army, keeping in view of the current situation.
01:24Recently, you have seen that there is a new wave of terrorism in Balochistan.
01:31He is commenting from different angles.
01:36He has also responded to the commentary.
01:39But in today's press conference, the first thing he has put in front of the people of Pakistan is
01:46how and at what level the Pakistan Armed Forces are carrying out different operations against terrorists.
01:54So far, 32,173 different types of intelligence-based operations have been carried out in the past year.
02:03Of which, the number of operations in the past month is 4021.
02:10In the past month, during the operations, 90 exporters were sent to hell.
02:18It is worth mentioning here that to deal with this wave of terrorism,
02:25more than 130 operations are being carried out on a daily basis by the Pakistan Army,
02:31intelligence, police and other law-enforcing agencies.
02:38Viewers, just take a guess.
02:41Try to think that 130 operations on a daily basis,
02:46kinetic operations, intelligence-based operations are being carried out by the Pakistan Army.
02:51The magnitude of the efforts behind these operations,
02:56those who are involved in it, can only tell you how many efforts are involved in carrying out these operations.
03:03There is a lot of focus on Balochistan in today's recent events.
03:09And Balochistan is the heart, soul and heartbeat of Pakistan.
03:14We know that the people of Balochistan have a feeling of deprivation and state coercion,
03:24which is exploited by special forces on the external front.
03:29They exploit it so that there is progress in Balochistan,
03:34so that there is progress in Balochistan,
03:39so that there is progress in Balochistan,
03:44so that there is progress in Balochistan,
03:49so that there is progress in Balochistan,
03:54so that there is progress in Balochistan,
03:59so that there is progress in Balochistan,
04:04so that there is progress in Balochistan,
04:09so that there is progress in Balochistan,
04:14so that there is progress in Balochistan,
04:19so that there is progress in Balochistan,
04:24so that there is progress in Balochistan,
04:29so that there is progress in Balochistan,
04:34so that there is progress in Balochistan,
04:39so that there is progress in Balochistan,
04:44so that there is progress in Balochistan,
04:49so that there is progress in Balochistan,
04:54so that there is progress in Balochistan,
04:59so that there is progress in Balochistan,
05:04so that there is progress in Balochistan,
05:09so that there is progress in Balochistan,
05:14so that there is progress in Balochistan,
05:19so that there is progress in Balochistan,
05:24so that there is progress in Balochistan,
05:29so that there is progress in Balochistan,
05:34so that there is progress in Balochistan,
05:39so that there is progress in Balochistan.
05:49In this regard, operations are being carried out.
05:54For us, every Pakistani's blood is sacred,
05:59and no Pakistani's blood will be allowed to be wasted.
06:04No Pakistani's blood will be allowed to be wasted,
06:09and will be against these seditions to the last extent.
06:14There is a focus on Balochistan,
06:19and there is an objection that they have carried out operations in so many places,
06:24and there were questions as well,
06:29and there were questions as well,
06:34and there were questions as well,
06:39but there is no such thing as no-go area,
06:44and there is no such thing as no-go area,
06:49and there are more than 100 operations every day.
06:54It is very clear that the Pakistan government,
06:59the Pak army has made a plan,
07:04that one Pakistani's life is more important than 100,000 lives of these seditions abroad,
07:09and now they are being chased, and they have to be killed.
07:14and now they are being chased, and they have to be killed.
07:19We have talked about negotiations,
07:24but neither are they Pakistani, nor are they Muslims, nor are they humans, they are beasts.
07:29They bomb Madrasas,
07:34they kill innocent people by taking them off the buses,
07:39they are travelling with their families,
07:44they are travelling with their children,
07:49what harm can they do to anyone?
07:54Terrorist attacks are taking place,
07:59and they will be dealt with harshly,
08:04and the DGISPR has cleared everything in a double-edged sword,
08:09and we are satisfied with our army,
08:14but there are some steps that other people need to take,
08:19and the smugglers, and some politicians,
08:24they have a nexus with them,
08:29and they need to end this nexus,
08:34and the army is carrying out its traditional operations,
08:39but the other governments need to step up their efforts.
08:44I think there is no need to make any more statements on this,
08:49as if there is someone who has a problem,
08:54and he is standing against the state.
08:59This is a simple matter,
09:04on one side there is the state of Pakistan,
09:09and on the other side there are the terrorists,
09:14and the foreign agenda,
09:19do you have any evidence of this?
09:24No, there is no doubt about this,
09:29first of all, I am not talking about any Pakistani,
09:34I am talking about the DGISPR.
10:04They have to be punished,
10:09and they should be hanged.
10:14If we want to make Pakistan a peaceful place,
10:19then we should treat them in such a way,
10:24that their descendants and those who sent them,
10:29The Pakistan army follows a certain political agenda,
10:34and is in favour of one political party.
10:39This was also raised during the press conference.
10:44It is important to understand that the Pakistan army is a national army,
10:49and it has no political agenda,
10:54nor is it opposed to any political party.
10:59The army has a professional and governmental relationship with every government,
11:04which has been appropriately stated in the rules and regulations of the law.
11:09The Pak army has a clear consensus that the army should not be subjected
11:14to any specific political interest as a national and state agency,
11:19nor should it be used for any specific political interest.
11:32Mr. Chaudhary Gulamzain, what more can be said than this?
11:37Obviously, there is a commentary on this,
11:42and there is also criticism of the army regarding its political character.
11:47Obviously, the army is a state, and the state has its own rules and regulations,
11:52different institutions, parliament, government, executive, etc.
11:57So, the army also follows the same rules and regulations,
12:02and works on the duties assigned to it.
12:07I think this answer to this question will also be useful to many friends.
12:13Which friend?
12:15For the past two and a half years, I have been pleading with you every day,
12:20I have pleaded with you,
12:22that the Pakistan army and the people of Pakistan need a united front,
12:26and whatever they want to put in it,
12:29Nomi, Nomi, army, army,
12:32for God's sake, stop them.
12:35The whole country and the army are one.
12:37Our enemy has a very long arm to destabilize us.
12:42It is enough to deal with them.
12:45Why do you blame the Pakistanis?
12:48Shukr Allah, Alhamdulillah,
12:50I think that today Asim Muneer, Chief of Army Staff,
12:54and his translation has translated the whole nation,
12:58that the army is neither with anyone nor against anyone,
13:01and the army is not a party in politics.
13:04This is a big message,
13:06and may Allah make all the people come back from their sins,
13:13and play their part in taking the country towards progress and stability,
13:21and stand behind the army,
13:23and the army should follow the enemy.
13:25Period.
13:27Hassan.
13:29Sir, it is true that the army does not have a political agenda,
13:34but you see,
13:36what will we do about the sectarian information of that community,
13:42which says that there will be negotiations,
13:44only with those who have the power at the moment.
13:47That is, they indirectly mention the establishment,
13:49not indirectly, but take the name that they will do it with the establishment.
13:52Then I am not doing this,
13:54or you are not doing it,
13:55Chaudhry Ghulam Hussain is not doing it.
13:57There is a big political party,
13:59its founder is from the jail,
14:01and its secretary is talking about the information.
14:03So when you talk about this in politics,
14:07then this is not the right attitude.
14:09Then look at one more thing,
14:11there are a few Mujahideen,
14:13they say in the letter that there is an intervention,
14:16now when they do not have a political agenda,
14:18then in such a situation,
14:20the information that is sold,
14:22of the intervention,
14:23that is also unlawful.
14:24So in my opinion,
14:25all these things are very clear,
14:27there should not be any political agenda of the army.
14:30And the way our army is fulfilling the responsibility of internal security,
14:34and tomorrow is our defense day,
14:37tomorrow is September 6th,
14:40so we should pay tribute to our army,
14:43the defense of Pakistan,
14:45today we sleep peacefully in our homes,
14:48the reason for this is that our brave army
14:50has been defending Pakistan,
14:52and God willing, will continue to do so.
14:54The point is very clear,
14:56tomorrow we will talk about it in the second part of the program,
14:59what Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman said,
15:01that the parliamentarians should do their job,
15:05and the rest of the institutions should do their job,
15:07so today during the press conference,
15:09the question was raised,
15:10so I think things are going towards improvement,
15:12and these misconceptions,
15:14if Hassan is also talking,
15:16then I think all these things should end.
15:18The question was raised,
15:20and as you know,
15:22the former DG of ISI,
15:24Faiz Hameed,
15:26Zahir,
15:28all the information was given through a press release,
15:30by the ISPR,
15:32so the question was also raised on that,
15:34listen to the answer.
15:36It is important to know this,
15:38that if a person in the army,
15:41works for his personal benefit,
15:46or for his personal benefit,
15:49or if he is involved in any particular political agenda,
15:54then the Pak army's self-accountability system
15:57comes into action.
16:01In the light of evidence and evidence,
16:03officials have to be accountable for their actions.
16:08Lt. Gen. Ret. Faiz Hameed's case
16:11is a clear proof of this,
16:13that the Pak army
16:15takes its personal and political interests
16:19very seriously,
16:22and takes immediate action
16:24according to the law,
16:26without discrimination.
16:28It is a very clear answer, I think.
16:30After this, the question was also raised,
16:32which is another topic under discussion these days,
16:35that will Bani PTI be trialled in the military court?
16:40The question was asked, listen to the answer.
16:42As the court martial proceedings
16:44are moving forward,
16:46the leaders of justice
16:48are expressing their concerns
16:50that the Bani PTI
16:52can be taken to the military court,
16:54or the military act against them
16:56can be carried out.
16:58What do you say to this?
17:00I told you earlier that this is a sub-judicial matter,
17:02and your question is hypothetical.
17:05But I will tell you this,
17:07that according to military law,
17:10if a person,
17:12an individual or an individual,
17:14who is subject to the army act,
17:17is used for his personal or political purposes,
17:21and his evidence and evidence is present,
17:24then the law will make its own way.
17:28Viewers, we always get a good thing to hear,
17:32but today's press conference,
17:34the law, the army act,
17:36is very clear.
17:38If someone has committed a crime,
17:40he will be punished.
17:42It has also been said that
17:44if there is evidence,
17:46they also said that
17:48it is a sub-judicial matter,
17:50and your question is also very hypothetical.
17:52But despite this,
17:54they said, let's tell you,
17:56that whatever the law says,
17:58whatever the army act says,
18:00whoever is subject to the army act,
18:02that will happen.
18:04I don't think we need to elaborate
18:06on this issue,
18:08because people mix it up.
18:10Today, there was a question
18:12about the Jalsa,
18:14that the first Jalsa was held
18:16because of Murtabi Abloom.
18:18They gave a very simple answer.
18:20Last month, PTI planned a Jalsa
18:22in Islamabad, Binal.
18:24And during this time,
18:26it was cancelled by the Deputy Commissioner.
18:28But there were rumours that
18:30the cancellation of this Jalsa
18:32is being discussed with the establishment.
18:34And now, this Jalsa has been planned
18:36again on 8th September.
18:38Even now, there are rumours
18:40circulating in the markets
18:42that there is a discussion
18:44with the PTI or their leaders
18:46on the backdoor channel.
18:48Can you elaborate on this,
18:50why is this happening?
18:52Look, any Jalsa,
18:54regardless of the date,
18:56is a purely administrative matter.
18:58The army is focused towards
19:00its own professional matters.
19:04Chaudhary sahib,
19:06what can be a more candid answer
19:08to such a serious question?
19:10Any issue is subject to the law.
19:12If someone has done something
19:14wrong, then he will be punished
19:16according to the law.
19:18You have put up
19:20backdoor contacts.
19:22They have given an answer
19:24to the Jalsa.
19:26They have given an answer
19:28to the Jalsa.
19:30They have given an answer
19:32to the Jalsa.
19:34I often remember your saying
19:36after listening to the press conference.
19:38What did you say?
19:40The more you eat,
19:42the more carrots you eat.
19:44The more you eat, the more carrots you eat.
19:46The more you eat, the more carrots you eat.
19:48So, if someone has done something wrong,
19:50irrespective of who it is,
19:52they have repeatedly made it clear
19:54that the law is very clear,
19:56the courts are present,
19:58and a fair trial will be held.
20:00The one who has not been punished
20:02will not be punished.
20:04There you are.
20:06I have heard a lot of people
20:08complaining about this.
20:10Day and night,
20:12they were spreading
20:14useless propaganda.
20:16I want to see
20:18the day
20:20when all the political parties
20:22and the army chiefs
20:24will go to the graves of the martyrs
20:26and offer their clothes
20:28to the dead.
20:30This is what I want.
20:34The snake that is sleeping,
20:36are you going to cut it?
20:38The snake is sleeping.
20:40It is sleeping.
20:42Sorry, I thought you had put it to sleep.
20:44Sorry, sir.
20:46The backdoor contacts
20:48that people were talking about,
20:50it was all nonsense.
20:52There is no truth to it.
20:54I am telling you the truth.
20:56I am not even angling
20:58anything in this.
21:00There is no connection.
21:02This is only due to the
21:04orders of the Istanbul High Court.
21:06They have issued
21:08the NOC of the Jalsa.
21:10The routes have been determined.
21:12But will they be able
21:14to hold the Jalsa
21:16freely and without any hindrance?
21:18No,
21:20this will not happen.
21:22What do you mean?
21:24What I am trying to say is
21:26that the Indian Ministry
21:28will not allow this.
21:30The Prime Minister
21:32will not allow this either.
21:34Why?
21:36There are reasons for this.
21:38Their previous conduct
21:40was very wild.
21:42They are giving a guarantee.
21:44You have put the conditions
21:46in between.
21:48They have told
21:50that this is the route
21:52for people from Peshawar
21:54and other places.
21:56This is also a condition.
21:58You have to tell us
22:00what you have eaten.
22:02No, I will tell you.
22:04This is the place
22:06where the Mubashi Mandi
22:08is held on Eid-e-Kurban.
22:10Is it near to you?
22:12No, it is a little far.
22:14You will have to go
22:16to cover the Jalsa.
22:18We will send Hasan
22:20to cover the Jalsa.
22:22You will have to bring the pass.
22:24The AWT
22:26interchange
22:28is adjacent
22:30to the GT road.
22:32A Mubashi Mandi
22:34is held there.
22:36It is not held
22:38on Eid-e-Kurban.
22:40It is only on Eid-e-Kurban.
22:42The people who will come
22:44to attend the Jalsa
22:46will have made a big sacrifice.
22:48They say
22:50that it is a river of fire
22:52and you have to jump into it.
22:54It is not an easy task.
22:56You have to go there
22:58and get the pass.
23:00If Mr. Chaudhary goes
23:02I will put a garland around his neck.
23:04Will you go with him?
23:06If Mr. Chaudhary goes,
23:08I will go with him.
23:10Let's go to the break.
23:12After the break,
23:14we will talk about
23:16what happened in Pakistan.
23:18After the talk,
23:20we will have a commentary.
23:22Maulana Fazlur Rahman
23:24will be a part of the government.
23:26Stay with us.
23:28Maulana Fazlur Rahman
23:30is the center of attention
23:32in Pakistan.
23:34Prime Minister,
23:36President
23:38and all the opposition leaders
23:40are going to his house.
23:42The leaders of Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf
23:44are going to Maulana Fazlur Rahman.
23:46It seems that
23:48Maulana Fazlur Rahman
23:50has a magic wand
23:52which he uses
23:54and all the people
23:56gather around him.
23:58Yesterday,
24:00he gave a speech
24:02in the National Assembly
24:04regarding the status
24:06of the parliament
24:08which is being discussed.
24:10If the government
24:12doesn't do anything,
24:14we will go there
24:16and control the situation.
24:18However,
24:20we are sitting here
24:22and we have to
24:24deal with
24:26them.
24:28He
24:30highlighted
24:32the importance
24:34of the parliament.
24:36Today,
24:38he expressed his desire
24:40to cooperate
24:42with the government.
24:44Farm 45-47
24:46is the government
24:48and we have to deal with it.
24:50Maulana Fazlur Rahman
24:52didn't say anything
24:54in his speech.
24:56I would like to hear
24:58it again.
25:00It is possible that
25:02I have missed
25:04the word government
25:06and I have missed
25:08the word parliament.
25:10If the government
25:12doesn't do anything,
25:14we will go there
25:16and control the situation.
25:18However,
25:20we are sitting here
25:22and we have to
25:24deal with
25:26them.
25:28There is a government
25:30and opposition
25:32in this parliament.
25:34A reporter
25:36asked him
25:38if he is going to
25:40be a part of the government.
25:42He replied
25:44to Maulana Fazlur Rahman's
25:46speech.
25:48I would like to hear
25:50it again.
25:52I will commit suicide
25:54if I join the government.
25:56Why?
25:58I have decided
26:00to join the government.
26:02I don't know you.
26:04I don't know you.
26:06I don't know
26:08any Barrister Aqeel.
26:10Let's see what
26:12Barrister Aqeel said.
26:26He is your friend,
26:28Barrister Aqeel.
26:30Why are you trying to
26:32convince him?
26:34You are
26:36giving a speech
26:38about a party leader.
26:40He said he doesn't know you.
26:42He said he would
26:44commit suicide
26:46if he joins the government.
26:48It would be better
26:50if Aqeel said
26:52that he has
26:54submitted his request
26:56to Maulana Fazlur Rahman
26:58and he expects
27:00a positive response.
27:02It would be better
27:04if Aqeel said
27:06that he has
27:08submitted his request
27:10to Maulana Fazlur Rahman
27:12and he expects
27:14a positive response.
27:16It would be better
27:18if Aqeel said
27:20that he has
27:22submitted his request
27:24to Maulana Fazlur Rahman
27:26and he expects
27:28a positive response.
27:58It would be better
28:00if Aqeel said
28:02that he has
28:04submitted his request
28:06to Maulana Fazlur Rahman
28:08and he expects
28:10a positive response.
28:12It would be better
28:14if Aqeel said
28:16that he has
28:18submitted his request
28:20to Maulana Fazlur Rahman
28:22and he expects
28:24a positive response.
28:26Chaudhary sahib,
28:28there are news in different newspapers.
28:30Earlier, PTI
28:32said that they are asking for
28:34two senator seats.
28:36Today, another news is that
28:38Maulana has asked for two ministries
28:40and a chairmanship of a committee.
28:42I have also talked to some people.
28:44At this point in time,
28:46Maulana Fazlur Rahman
28:48wants to solve
28:50the political tension
28:52in Pakistan.
28:54He thinks that
28:56the country has to move forward.
28:58He wants to go to the next election.
29:00Kamran Murtaza,
29:02yesterday,
29:04asked him about
29:06Mangal Sahib's resignation.
29:08He said that if the situation remains
29:10like this,
29:12he can take such a step.
29:14Aftab has resigned.
29:16We have also started
29:18to think about
29:20leaving the parliamentary politics.
29:22If we leave it,
29:24then you may not
29:26have much time left.
29:28Chaudhary Ghulam Singh sahib,
29:30the political deadlock
29:32you are seeing
29:34its end
29:36so soon.
29:38Everyone is saying this.
29:40Maulana Fazlur Rahman
29:42said yesterday
29:44that it is necessary
29:46for the country
29:48to move forward.
29:50To end this political
29:52war.
29:54Chaudhary sahib.
29:56Whenever someone
29:58calls you lovingly,
30:00you will remember a person.
30:02I think that the developments
30:04that have happened today
30:06show that the deadlock
30:08has been replaced by dialogue.
30:10Some are being secretive,
30:12some are making announcements,
30:14some are honking,
30:16some are not.
30:18The positive thing is
30:20that everyone has realized
30:22that the debate is not
30:24in the interest of the country.
30:26Everyone should sit together
30:28and find a solution.
30:30You have ignored one thing.
30:32The opposition
30:34has demanded
30:36an all parties conference
30:38on a national level.
30:40Including PTI,
30:42People's Party and Muslim League.
30:44I think this is a major
30:46development.
30:48The impact of this
30:50is going to be positive.
30:52Because the country
30:54is being terrorized
30:56from all sides.
30:58We have to deal with them.
31:00It is necessary
31:02that we take all the weapons
31:04that we have and follow them.
31:06Chaudhary sahib,
31:08you are right.
31:10Listen to the press conference
31:12of DGSPR today.
31:14APC call,
31:16Maulana's statement,
31:18Ajay Zahid's statement,
31:20Rana Sanalo's statement.
31:22Politicians should sit together.
31:24There is a need for political
31:26stability in Pakistan.
31:28Pakistan is an agricultural
31:30country.
31:32But how much money is being spent
31:34on research and development
31:36in the agricultural sector
31:38will be discussed later.
31:40Ladies and gentlemen,
31:42The news has been published
31:44in JUNG and The News.
31:46It has been said that
31:48the Food Security and Agriculture
31:50Research Committee of
31:52the Senate on Wednesday
31:54visited the
31:56National Agricultural Research
31:58Center of NARC.
32:00According to the
32:02number of facts
32:04presented by the committee,
32:06Pakistan, South Asia
32:08and other countries
32:10is the country with the
32:12least amount of
32:14investment in research
32:16and development.
32:18Ladies and gentlemen,
32:20this is only 0.12%
32:22of our GDP.
32:24The biggest fact
32:26is that we are an
32:28agrarian economy.
32:30The 60-70% labor force
32:32in our country
32:34belongs to the
32:36agricultural sector.
32:38This is what we are doing
32:40with our country.
32:42Where has the world gone?
32:44China is asking you
32:46to produce things.
32:48We are ready to buy
32:50from you.
32:52The whole world is ready
32:54to buy from you.
32:56We are subletting our lands
32:58to secure the food security
33:00of other countries.
33:02But nothing is happening here.
33:04This is a very serious issue.
33:06We have been reporting
33:08for the past 25 years.
33:10No one is focusing.
33:12You have to work hard.
33:14But when you cultivate
33:16good hybrid seeds,
33:18your crops double.
33:20Now there are technologies
33:22where you have to
33:24use less water.
33:26In America,
33:28they are working on
33:30water-resistant rice.
33:32You can see that
33:34people have made gardens.
33:36It is organic.
33:38You can get a good price for it.
33:40Tunnel farming is going on.
33:42They are going to do this.
33:44If you equip your landowners
33:46in this way,
33:48you can get a lot of
33:50crop from a little land
33:52and make Pakistan rich.
33:54But the interest in NARC
33:56has been seen.
33:58You have seen it.
34:00This is a very important issue.
34:02I think the government should
34:04think about it.
34:06We spend a lot of money.
34:08Give some money for R&D
34:10in the agricultural sector.
34:12It will be very beneficial.
34:14See you tomorrow. Allah Hafiz.

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