KHABAR | Aniqa Nisar | Constitutional Courts | ARY News | 19th September 2024

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Host:
- Aniqa Nisar

Guests:
- Ali Muhammad Khan (PTI)
- Kamran Murtaza (JUIF)
- Jahangir Jadoon (Lawyer)
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00:00Bismillah hir rahman nir raheem.

00:29Hi, I am Anika Nisar.

00:31One thing is clear.

00:33I.N.E.T has not been formalized yet.

00:35But the cases are still going on.

00:37And the proof of that is

00:39that in I.N.E.T

00:41there is an action

00:43on changing the number game.

00:45That action is very important.

00:47That is important

00:49because today I have two letters.

00:51These two letters were written to

00:53the Election Commission of Pakistan.

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00:57the President of Pakistan,

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01:01by the Speaker of the Punjab Assembly,

01:03Malik Mohammad Ahmed Khan.

01:05There is something very interesting

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13:33Election Commission of Pakistan should follow the Supreme Court's decision. Fine.

13:39But Election Commission of Pakistan cannot go beyond the scope of the law.

13:44Both the Speaker of National Assembly and the Speaker of Punjab Assembly are saying that

13:49this law will now take precedence over the Supreme Court's order.

13:53So, everyone is confusing the Election Commission of Pakistan.

13:56I think this is a very unnecessary and against the law.

14:07Because the majority decision has been taken.

14:11You don't have any other option.

14:12The law has changed. What should we do now?

14:15The law has changed. What should we do now?

14:18The law has changed for the future.

14:20From now on, the elections will be in accordance with the existing law.

14:24The elections will be in accordance with the existing law.

14:28If a person is a Muslim and he dies, you cannot make him a Hindu.

14:37No, but we will not allow a revolution here.

14:40If a Pakistani dies, you cannot change his ID card,

14:48cancel his NADRA membership and declare him an alien.

14:52So, you are saying that this should not have been a retrospective decision.

14:55Yes, and one more thing.

14:57It is evident from this that the intention of this government was very bad.

15:01In the darkness of the night, without informing the members,

15:04they were carrying out illegal activities.

15:06Okay, let's talk about the bad things.

15:08The things that are happening in the Constitutional Courts,

15:11it is evident from this that their sole purpose is that

15:16Perry's justice should not get his reserve seats,

15:19Perry's justice should not be declared as a member of the PTI,

15:22there should not be any chance of Perry's justice coming back to the government.

15:27I feel that this is a situation of all is fair in love and war.

15:32We suppose this is not war.

15:36It doesn't look like love either though.

15:40If there is love between PTI and the government, then it is a better kind of love.

15:44We are not here for love.

15:46We are not here for love.

15:48But I am just giving an example.

15:50Mr. Ali Maulana, the question is this.

15:52The people who make the law, the Pakistanis oppress them.

15:54But there is one more thing.

15:56This will have an impact on the Constitutional Amendment.

15:58Mr. Ali Maulana, let's come back to Mr. Bilawal's point.

16:00We will come back to that.

16:02But this will have an impact on the Constitutional Amendment,

16:04and it will have a good impact.

16:06Why did you get 39?

16:0741 was on the other side.

16:08So, what should we do now?

16:10Now what?

16:11If the numbers are not being fulfilled for the Constitutional Amendment,

16:13then it can be done from this side.

16:17Look, the government,

16:19first of all,

16:21before completing the numbers,

16:23has to complete the houses.

16:25Right now,

16:27some other important developments are happening.

16:29I don't want to talk much about that.

16:31What is that?

16:33In the Supreme Court, some developments will come.

16:35God willing, you will see in a day or two.

16:37Look, you...

16:39Mr. Ali Maulana, please put more light on this.

16:41The light is a little less.

16:43I will put more light.

16:45I will tell you.

16:47Look, you should understand what I am telling you.

16:49You cannot do the Constitutional Amendment

16:51if the house is incomplete.

16:53In the country, there are two houses for the Constitutional Amendment.

16:55Are you talking about the KPK?

16:57Look, the Supreme Court of Pakistan

16:59will not accept any such

17:01Constitutional Amendment.

17:03Nor will it become a part of the Constitution.

17:05If you do not complete the house,

17:07the House of Federation is a Senate.

17:09All four branches of the Senate

17:11have equal representation.

17:13You are saying that the KPK...

17:15Senate is incomplete.

17:17National Assembly is incomplete.

17:19There are no reserve seats in the National Assembly.

17:21Minority seats are not complete.

17:23Your house is not complete in the Senate.

17:25If the house is incomplete,

17:27the Constitutional Amendments

17:29will be struck down in a day.

17:31Secondly, you do not have the numbers.

17:33If you want to complete the numbers,

17:35but if you kidnap the people

17:37of the opposing party,

17:39then you are adding another

17:41dark chapter in the history of Pakistan.

17:43I am sorry I am cutting you short.

17:45But it seems like...

17:47Because it is a very strange impression.

17:49It should not be.

17:51But it is.

17:53Everyone has their own

17:55parties in the courts.

17:57This is my part, this is your part.

17:59It has become an impression.

18:01In the KPK,

18:03there is the issue of reserve seats.

18:05In return,

18:07the elections of the Senate

18:09were held in reserve seats.

18:11Was Pakistan pre-empting

18:13Tehreek-e-Insaf?

18:15Was that why

18:17the situation was stopped?

18:19Was that the reason?

18:23Tehreek-e-Insaf

18:25will make every effort

18:27to protect the mandate of the people.

18:29Right now,

18:31the worst democratic

18:33robbery in the history of Pakistan

18:35has taken place.

18:37The mandate of the people of Pakistan

18:39has been stolen.

18:41A very big bill has been passed

18:43against Article 6.

18:45The election has been stolen.

18:47Everyone has done this together.

18:49The bill has not been implemented.

18:51And at this time,

18:53Pakistan has placed those people

18:55who have been thrown out by the people.

18:57The people have rejected them.

18:59If you do this,

19:01you will have to let those people

19:03sit in power.

19:05Otherwise,

19:07democracy will become

19:09the worst form of autocracy.

19:13Ali Muhammad Khan Sahib,

19:15you still don't realize

19:17that the work you want

19:19is not going to be done

19:21to give the seat of power

19:23to Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf

19:25as a gift.

19:27This is not happening.

19:29What is happening now

19:31is a reality.

19:33Even the number of votes

19:35for the constitutional amendment

19:37is being seen after this.

19:39What should be done now?

19:41Are you saying that the PTI

19:43is being introduced in the Supreme Court

19:45or will the Supreme Court

19:47itself take notice?

19:49I think this will be clear

19:51to you in a day or two.

19:53If you give clarity a day or two

19:55If someone is thinking

19:57of doing a constitutional amendment

19:59in a non-constitutional way,

20:01then you have failed before

20:03and you will fail again.

20:05As far as you are concerned,

20:07we face the reality.

20:09The reality is that

20:11there has been a robbery.

20:13If we have the strength,

20:15we will ask for our rights.

20:17Yes, we will adopt a constitutional

20:19method. We will not take help

20:21from any foreign country.

20:23We will not kidnap our people.

20:25We will not kidnap our women.

20:27We are democratic people.

20:29We will continue our struggle.

20:31And from within this system,

20:33we will show you

20:35how our mandate is taken back.

20:37How our reserved seats

20:39are brought to the assembly.

20:41We will struggle.

20:43We will not back down.

20:45By the grace of Allah,

20:47Allah is with us. The nation is with us.

20:49That is why, despite all the efforts,

20:51despite all the schemes,

20:53they are failing

20:55in every field.

20:57But what is the most shameful thing?

20:59The most shameful thing is

21:01that those people

21:03who are making the constitution,

21:05who are going to get it passed

21:07by those people,

21:09they did not know.

21:11The Prime Minister did not know.

21:13And the most shameful thing is

21:15that the leader of the

21:17so-called constitution-making

21:19party is trying to destroy

21:21the fundamental rights of the constitution

21:23made by his grandfather.

21:25Tell us about the article 8.

21:27He removed the article 8.

21:29He clarified it today.

21:31No, he did not do it today.

21:33He clarified it on the same day.

21:35What happened that night?

21:37Why did his members not know?

21:39Tell me about a member

21:41of the People's Party

21:43who had a draft that night.

21:45The night he started voting.

21:47Tell me,

21:49on the 21st,

21:51there will be a Jalsa.

21:53Is the preparation for the Jalsa complete?

21:55It is always complete.

21:57What type of Jalsa

21:59will it be?

22:01Will it be like the one

22:03that took place in Islamabad

22:05or will it be different?

22:07It will be a great Jalsa.

22:09Why will it be different?

22:11A lot has been said about

22:13the Jalsa in Islamabad.

22:15The Jalsa was peaceful.

22:17There was no firecrackers.

22:19Did the government leave the Jalsa?

22:21Did the government leave the Jalsa?

22:23Tell me, what was the need

22:25to be afraid of the government?

22:27The Jalsa was peaceful.

22:29The government did not leave the Jalsa.

22:31There was no issue of security.

22:33Even today, the government

22:35is sitting there.

22:37I do not understand,

22:39if the Jalsa takes place in Lahore,

22:41will the throne of Lahore fall?

22:43Your purpose is not to make

22:45the throne of Lahore fall.

22:47That is what you are saying.

22:49We will hold our Jalsa.

22:51But the purpose is not to make

22:53the throne of Lahore fall.

22:55Thank you very much for joining me

22:57in the program.

22:59Mr. Kamran Murtaza is also

23:01with us.

23:03Mr. Kamran Murtaza,

23:05Bilawal Bhutto Zardari

23:07said something very important

23:09about you today.

23:11Mr. Bilawal said,

23:13yes, it is a compulsion.

23:15He said, there was no compulsion.

23:17There was no fear.

23:19Before you came here,

23:21he had already released Article 8.

23:23Will you clarify, Mr. Kamran Murtaza?

23:25He is not correct.

23:27I am standing on my point.

23:29My point is correct.

23:31He insisted on this.

23:33He said it is a compulsion.

23:35He said it is a compulsion.

23:37He said it is a compulsion.

23:39He said it is a compulsion.

23:41He said it is a compulsion.

23:43He said it is a compulsion.

23:45His gesture or words

23:47means it is a compulsion.

23:49Did he say it is a compulsion

23:51directly or by gesture?

23:53Yes, he was having

23:55a direct conversation with me.

23:57So, Pakistan People's Party

23:59wanted to change the law

24:01according to compulsion

24:03in such a way

24:05that it is

24:07against the spirit of the law.

24:09Yes, it is like that.

24:11I had insisted

24:13not to do this.

24:15This is destruction.

24:17And

24:19I don't like

24:21this at all.

24:23Mr. Kamran, he said

24:25before you came here,

24:27he had already released Article 8.

24:29He is not correct.

24:31The next day,

24:33when there was a special committee meeting,

24:35during the meeting,

24:37he said

24:39that he had removed it.

24:41We met

24:43a night before.

24:45a night before.

24:47Around 3 o'clock.

24:49He came to convince Maulana.

24:51After that, I met him

24:53at 2 o'clock.

24:55The next day.

24:57He did not say this.

24:59I insisted

25:01that it should be removed.

25:03He did not say

25:05how to vote on it.

25:07We will not be able to face people.

25:09Even then, he did not say.

25:11At least 10 hours passed.

25:13Even then, he did not inform.

25:15During the committee meeting,

25:17there will be a recording of it.

25:19During the committee meeting,

25:21there will be a recording of

25:23what I said and what he said.

25:25Remove it and make it public.

25:27At that time, he said for the first time.

25:29The date will also be known.

25:31Very interesting.

25:33Mr. Kamran, he complained to you.

25:35He said that you are coming on TV programs.

25:37But Mr. Murtaza Wahab is calling you.

25:39If you had picked up the call,

25:41everything would have been clear.

25:43Are you really not picking up Mr. Murtaza Wahab's call?

25:45No, it is not like that.

25:47I am sorry for that.

25:49I was driving the car.

25:51I was going to the office.

25:53I could not pick it up.

25:55When I went to the office,

25:57there was a crowd of clients.

25:59When the TV program started,

26:01it was late at night.

26:03He did not call me again.

26:05I did not find it appropriate

26:07to trouble him again.

26:09I am ready to call him

26:11ten times.

26:13Murtaza is my younger brother.

26:15But the factual position is

26:17what I am saying.

26:19By the way, Mr. Murtaza Wahab

26:21is available on the phone.

26:23I can tell you this myself.

26:25Will you contact Mr. Murtaza Wahab

26:27if he calls you again?

26:29I will call him.

26:31I do not have any problem.

26:33I will receive his call.

26:35It will be more appropriate.

26:37He is showing his anger

26:39and showing that I am right.

26:41He also said that

26:43you asked for two days.

26:45Two days are about to end.

26:47What will you do now?

26:49No, this is wrong.

26:51It is not like that.

26:53When he came the next day,

26:55he asked me and JUI

26:57to come together

26:59and make a draft

27:01of a new deal.

27:03I told him

27:05to make his own deal.

27:07We will make our own deal.

27:09You can share it with me.

27:11In return, I will share it with you.

27:13There was no deal from them.

27:15This is the factual position.

27:17So, the delay is not from you.

27:19It is from the People's Party.

27:21Yes, it is from the People's Party.

27:23We do not have a problem.

27:25We do not have to make an amendment.

27:27We are people sitting in the Treasury.

27:29The people sitting in the Treasury

27:31or indirectly

27:33have to make an amendment.

27:35You do not have to make an amendment.

27:37The Treasury and the Opposition

27:39have to make an amendment.

27:41It is up to you

27:43whether you want to make an amendment

27:45or not.

27:47Maybe that is why

27:49they are waiting for you

27:51to make an amendment.

27:53Are you ready to make an amendment?

27:55Why should I make an amendment?

27:57We do not have a problem.

27:59When they make an amendment,

28:01I will give them a counter.

28:03It should not be like this.

28:05It should be like this.

28:07We will make an amendment

28:09and then they can say

28:11that they themselves said

28:13that this is an amendment.

28:15I just want to confirm,

28:17you did not make an amendment.

28:19You will correct the people's party

28:21or the government

28:23when they make an amendment.

28:25Am I correct?

28:27No, it is not about correction.

28:29I will make an amendment

28:31when they make an amendment.

28:33I will make an amendment

28:35because the Treasury

28:37has to make an amendment

28:39for the Government Bill.

28:41Why should I make an amendment

28:43for the Government Bill?

28:45They will make an amendment

28:47and I will give them my version.

28:49I will make an amendment

28:51that it should not be like this.

28:53But in that case,

28:55they will share it with me.

28:57I told Murtaza to WhatsApp me

28:59on that day.

29:01I think it was on Sunday

29:03or Monday

29:05when Bilawal and Murtaza came.

29:07There were Khushisa

29:09and Naveed Qamar.

29:11They have not sent me

29:13any document yet.

29:15They said that they will

29:17WhatsApp me.

29:19They also said that

29:21some documents are with Farooq Naik.

29:23He is in Karachi.

29:25They have not sent me

29:27the documents yet.

29:29Very interesting.

29:31Thank you very much

29:33for this clarification.

29:35We will discuss some legal matters

29:37after the break.

29:39This was very important

29:41what Kamran Murtaza is saying.

29:43He is wrong

29:45and Kamran Murtaza

29:47is right.

29:49See you after the break.

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35:49So the decision is a detailed judgment, it should be given, it should not be ignored.

35:56Mr. Jadun, now the question arises, what options does the ECP have?

36:01The ECP has one option, that the decision of the Supreme Court, whatever comes,

36:05should be implemented and noticed according to that.

36:08They haven't done that yet, there is no delay.

36:10Secondly, the law that has been passed by the Parliament,

36:15has brought an amendment, has brought a retrospective,

36:18that is, there will be a report on the past as well, from 2017.

36:21By implementing that, the number game should be changed,

36:25and all should not be put in the bag of PTI.

36:28SIC should remain SIC, PTI should not be made.

36:30In your opinion, for the ECP, legally,

36:34what will be more aligned with the law and legality?

36:38Look, the ECP has given a judgment to the Supreme Court,

36:42there was a full court, 13 members of that bench were present,

36:45two disagreed, 11 judgment chief justices themselves,

36:49they are saying that PTI has fought as a party election,

36:52and these seats are theirs.

36:54So why is the ECP interpreting itself in this?

36:56I don't understand.

36:57It should implement the judgment straight away,

36:59but the ECP is not working as a constitutional institution.

37:03The ECP is biased.

37:05See, this is the reason.

37:07The government says the same about some other institution, it is biased.

37:09No, the government may or may not say it,

37:12but it is biased because,

37:14if you want to delay a party,

37:19sometimes it wants to delay it,

37:21so the foreign funding case delays for 7 years,

37:23sometimes it wants to delay it, so it works in minutes.

37:25Use your discretion as per law.

37:29Look, the Supreme Court has asked for an explanation,

37:32they have explained it,

37:33they have said that these 41 people,

37:35from whom they have given the declaration,

37:37you should notify them,

37:38that they are from PTI,

37:39now they are sitting on it again,

37:40now the detailed judgment has come.

37:42This means that the ECP is not doing it on its own,

37:44there is a force behind it.

37:46Why are you undermining the ECP so much?

37:48It is a party institution.

37:49I am not undermining it.

37:50Why is it necessary to have a force behind it?

37:51Why can't it do it on its own?

37:52Look, the ECP is the trustee of the people.

37:54The ECP is such an institution of the whole of Pakistan,

37:57which is a separate institution,

37:58which is used to conduct elections.

37:59It is the worst in the ECP.

38:01Sometimes the RTS sits in 2018,

38:03sometimes all the petitions come.

38:06In today's time,

38:07the litigation that is delayed in the High Court,

38:09the Supreme Court,

38:10is the case of the Election Commission.

38:12Now they say that the Supreme Court,

38:13and other courts do not decide.

38:15The most difficult thing is that the Election Commission,

38:17today I am telling you that

38:18the people who have petitioned on 8th February,

38:20the judgment of the Election Commission has not come yet.

38:22The Election Commission is busy.

38:23They are sitting and waiting.

38:24It is busy.

38:25No, it is not busy.

38:26On a lighter note.

38:28On a lighter note.

38:29Mr. Parshad,

38:30the Ayin has been done,

38:31the Noam's nose has been done,

38:33it can be done anywhere,

38:34so if someone says to follow the Ayin,

38:36then today the Ayin is different,

38:37tomorrow the Ayin will be different.

38:39The amendment comes.

38:40This is the right of the Parliament to do the amendment.

38:42Now to amend,

38:44someone should bring a law,

38:45and by making a law,

38:46amend it,

38:47and change the number game.

38:48This is the vicious circle.

38:50In this, where should the ECP stand?

38:52Look,

38:54the Ayin is a living document.

38:58And in this,

39:00the amendment is the right of the Parliament.

39:03The amendment can be done.

39:05Nothing can be kept at one place.

39:09It is an evolution process.

39:11With time, changes come.

39:13Now the question is,

39:15the amendments that are coming,

39:19how can they be implemented,

39:21or how can they be looked at?

39:23Look, in this,

39:25if we look at everything,

39:28one by one,

39:29and we have done some exercise today,

39:32there are some very good things,

39:35and some very objectionable things.

39:38So you cannot brush aside some very good things,

39:42and say,

39:43this government is doing something very wrong,

39:46and is doing something very good.

39:49And look,

39:50some amendment proposals are such,

39:52which are based on the demands of the Bar Councils and Bar Associates.

39:57I agree with that.

39:58I agree.

39:59I would like, Mr. Pasha,

40:00to bring forward the bad and good sides of the government.

40:04Since we are going beyond the limits of the amendment,

40:08can you clarify what you have in front of you,

40:11and what is acceptable to you,

40:13and what is not acceptable to you?

40:15Look, yesterday,

40:17there was an All-Pakistan Lawyers' Representative Convention,

40:25in which the Law Minister was in the hot seat.

40:28And for four and a half to five hours,

40:30he faced every question,

40:32and gave an answer.

40:34He was satisfied with some,

40:36and not satisfied with others.

40:38But the most beautiful thing in this amendment,

40:42is Article 185,

40:44subclass 4,

40:45which has two provisions.

40:48One of which is,

40:49that if this amendment is passed,

40:51then immediately after that,

40:53that is,

40:54after the implementation of this amendment,

40:56if a criminal appeal is filed,

40:59then the Supreme Court of Pakistan

41:01is bound to decide on it within 12 months.

41:04And the second provision is,

41:06that the criminal appeals that have already been filed

41:10in the Supreme Court of Pakistan,

41:13then the Supreme Court of Pakistan

41:15is bound to decide on them within 24 months.

41:19This was the demand of our lawyers,

41:22and the people of Pakistan,

41:24that the cases should not be fixed.

41:28In life imprisonment,

41:30when cases are filed,

41:31then the accused comes home after being punished.

41:35So all these things,

41:36this is a positive point,

41:37don't look at it from a political point of view.

41:40If he comes home after being punished,

41:41then that will also be a boon.

41:43A lot of people die there.

41:45Look, it becomes infectious.

41:48You see, the death sentence cases,

41:50the people who are in prison,

41:52they are in the death cell.

41:54They cannot be spent there for a day.

41:56And they have been locked up there for decades.

41:59Then, one thing on which we objected,

42:02that is,

42:03that the Sunstead Clause was given,

42:07that the Chief Justice's appointment will be first,

42:14that the Speaker will form a committee of 8 National Assembly Members,

42:20and then he will propose,

42:22which the Prime Minister will propose,

42:24and the President of Pakistan.

42:26We objected to this.

42:27We said that this should not happen.

42:29And today, when we are making our proposal,

42:33that this is our proposal,

42:38then we are keeping these things in it.

42:40Look, there should be deliberation.

42:42This is just a working paper.

42:44Because there should be deliberation,

42:45I will also ask Mr. Jadoon to participate on this side.

42:47Let's ask you, Mr. Jadoon.

42:50There, the thing on which he is agreeable or not agreeable,

42:54because in Vukla too,

42:56everywhere there is a fact that there has been polarization.

42:59There are two sides in the government too.

43:01Unfortunately, there are two sides in the judiciary too.

43:04There are two sides in the public too.

43:05There are two sides in Vukla too.

43:06So, does one segment of Vukla accept,

43:09does the other segment of Vukla accept or not?

43:11Mr. Jadoon.

43:12Look, the other group,

43:14they have made a convention in Lahore today,

43:16that is,

43:17let's see,

43:19like they said,

43:20our first objection was that

43:22the constitution is a social contract

43:25between the people of Pakistan and the state.

43:27So, people should know

43:29what changes are happening in the constitution.

43:31And the people who say,

43:32in the darkness of the night,

43:33this is absolutely right.

43:34At that time,

43:35if the numbers were fulfilled that night,

43:36then the amendment should have been passed.

43:38This is a very big injustice.

43:40Why are they doing this debate now?

43:43Is it getting better now?

43:44No.

43:45It should have been better earlier.

43:46I agree.

43:47This should have been discussed earlier.

43:48There should have been a consultation with the stakeholders.

43:50The amendment is the right of the parliament.

43:52There are no two opinions on this.

43:53Who says it is not the right of the parliament?

43:55But there is a limitation in the amendment.

43:57It is not the absolute right of the parliament.

43:59It makes sense.

44:00The parliament,

44:01even if they put the stake in the KP,

44:03they cannot do it

44:04until the KP assembly approves it.

44:06The parliament,

44:07the three basic features,

44:09for example,

44:10the interpretation of the constitution,

44:11which has been developed till date,

44:13and the constitution itself says,

44:14first,

44:15no law can be passed against the fundamental right.

44:17Second,

44:18no law can be passed

44:19by putting the stake in the freedom of judiciary.

44:22Third,

44:23the Islamic Prohibition,

44:24chapter 9 of the constitution,

44:25article 227,

44:26no law can be passed against it.

44:28The parliament has the right to do so.

44:31But,

44:32is there any way to make this a constitutional court,

44:34by putting the stake in the Supreme Court?

44:36Look,

44:37the timing of this is irrelevant.

44:39The timing is bad.

44:40The reason for this is,

44:41if they say,

44:42it was in COD.

44:43COD came in 2006.

44:44And now,

44:45after 18 years,

44:46they are suddenly reminded.

44:47Is it right to give it?

44:48Is it right to give it?

44:49You can do it after two months.

44:50The Supreme Court can sit and…

44:52Is it person-specific now?

44:53No,

44:54it should be person-specific.

44:55In COD,

44:56it is only written that

44:57the Supreme Court will establish it

44:58after 24 years.

44:59In COD,

45:00the most important article is

45:01class 22.

45:03Right.

45:04No government

45:05will ask for support

45:06from the army

45:07in its government formation.

45:08Today,

45:09tell me,

45:10which government,

45:11which party,

45:12asks for support from the army?

45:13This is a very long debate.

45:14Tell me one thing.

45:15This is a very long debate.

45:16From which community can we ask?

45:17COD is a very good document.

45:18But,

45:19you have acted on all its doubts.

45:20On whom did you act?

45:21How many percent did you act?

45:22You are doing it on one person.

45:23Don't let them do it on one person.

45:24Absolutely,

45:25the parliament has the right

45:26to make a court as well.

45:27Right.

45:28But,

45:29by making one court,

45:30if you undermine the other,

45:31then that court

45:32will also step on the judiciary.

45:33You are not undermining anyone.

45:34Right.

45:35Now,

45:36you will take the Supreme Court

45:37to the district court level

45:38and you want to make

45:39such a court

45:40which is supreme

45:41and its judge

45:42is 68%

45:43Let's see what we do.

45:44Now,

45:45we have come to the debate.

45:46We have come to the debate.

45:47We have come forcibly,

45:48but we have come.

45:49Now,

45:50we have come to you as well.

45:51But,

45:52I say,

45:53if you make a court as well,

45:54then you will undermine

45:55the other court.

45:56That is also fine.

45:57Mr. Pasha,

45:58thank you very much

45:59for joining me in the program.

46:00The time for the segment is over.

46:01After this,

46:02we will talk about

46:03the facts.

46:04First,

46:05we will talk about

46:06the software.

46:07Now,

46:08it will be different.

46:09After the break.

46:15Welcome back

46:16after the break.

46:17Viewers,

46:18a very big development

46:19took place.

46:20A development

46:21which was awaited.

46:22And,

46:23United Nations

46:24raised its voice

46:25with applause.

46:26At the time,

46:27United Nations

46:28passed a resolution.

46:29It called for

46:30that Israel

46:31within a year

46:32end the

46:33illegal

46:34occupation

46:35of Palestine.

46:36Israel

46:37is a country

46:38which

46:39is not only

46:40spreading its tentacles

46:41in Palestine

46:42but also

46:43in the whole region.

46:44It has recently

46:45globally

46:46carried out

46:47a terrorism

46:48act.

46:49And,

46:50what is that

46:51terrorism act?

46:52It is very easy to understand.

46:53Western countries

46:54will say

46:55defense,

46:56right to defense

46:57but

46:58it is not

46:59right to defense

47:00in any way.

47:01It is not

47:02right to

47:03defend

47:04in any way.

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47:30right to

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48:23in any

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48:31It is

48:32not

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48:35in any

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48:53in any

48:54way.

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48:56not

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49:00in any

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49:12defend

49:13in any

49:14way.

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